California Golf Cart Questions

[slowride]

... but twenty-five I would think is doable.

Not with Lisa driving.....
When you find the $2500 ones, let me know. The Shack is ready for taxi service.

 

[Mr Wicked]

tank

i have had 3 different registration people do my stuff for the last 7 years...

1 cant do them anymore and the others have showed me the letter from dmv stating the 17 digit vin number needed to reg them now.....

all side by sides are not legel on the road here in cali except for stte line cities.... just because you trailer it from az its not legal... by federal law its not legal in AZ nothing on the side by sides are d.o.t approoved that list includes seat belts, bumpers, wheels and tires, windsheild etc....

the dmv codes have changed...
and if your body code is GC then it can onlt be a 2 seater.... ill look op the code for the rear facing seats on the car or lsv... i do hear what your saying for the trucks


we have never had a problem about gas carts i was talking about some issues others have had.

i guess your just getting lucky with the 7 digit serial number...

i know whats works for my dmv people and verifiers....

i have had customer opted to do it themselves and on the first cart it worked fine at the fullerton dmv he took the second cart with all the same info and they said no way....

also GC LSV NEV vehical code cant be driven at night but im sure you have something to say about that tank...

 

[Mr Wicked]

back to gqchris theres enough info here that yes you can get them street legal for 35mph or less streets.... looks like a few different was to go about getting it done but it can and thats what you asked....

 

[H20 Toie]

Mine is reg in ca and never had a issue with people riding in back, i think there might be some law about driving on the beach

 

[gqchris]

Mine is reg in ca and never had a issue with people riding in back, i think there might be some law about driving on the beach

That is badass. Exactly what I want, but my wallet says NO! LOL

 

[Mr Wicked]

Mine is reg in ca and never had a issue with people riding in back, i think there might be some law about driving on the beach

nice cart.... never said there is an issue... we do it all the time in HB too and wave at the LE.... i just try to warn people what they might run into...



just got 3 plates dropped off today 2 electric and one gas arty2:arty2:

 

[Tank]

tank

i have had 3 different registration people do my stuff for the last 7 years...

1 cant do them anymore and the others have showed me the letter from dmv stating the 17 digit vin number needed to reg them now.....

all side by sides are not legel on the road here in cali except for stte line cities.... just because you trailer it from az its not legal... by federal law its not legal in AZ nothing on the side by sides are d.o.t approoved that list includes seat belts, bumpers, wheels and tires, windsheild etc....

the dmv codes have changed...
and if your body code is GC then it can onlt be a 2 seater.... ill look op the code for the rear facing seats on the car or lsv... i do hear what your saying for the trucks


we have never had a problem about gas carts i was talking about some issues others have had.

i guess your just getting lucky with the 7 digit serial number...

driven at night but im sure you have something to say about that tank...

I'm sorry, I was not refering to side by sides at all. Totally not legal weather drove in or towed into the state. I was refering to out of state regestered golf carts/cars. We're on the same page on that one

Regarding the 7 digit vins...I just haven't had a problem at all. Maybe it's the way we're doing it. I haven't seen the DMV update paperwork on the 7 digit vins yet. I have however had people at the DMV over the years straight trip out when you hand them a vin verification form and request for reg. and the vin is only 7 digits. If they're not familiar with slow moving vehicles and golf carts, there is always an issue.

Interesting about the body code GC can only be two seats....What about 4 foward facing seats? How would the DMV even know? No where on the form does it ask how many seat positions. And if LE pulled you over, what vehicle code section would they use to cite you for the rear facing seats supposing you were belted in, in a seat? I've seen all the legal updates for CVC sections and have missed anything of the sort dealing with this.



And please don't take my text as argumentative...Sometimes things can appear that way on forums and get lost in translation. I'm only discussing.:thumbsup

 

[Tank]

Mine is reg in ca and never had a issue with people riding in back, i think there might be some law about driving on the beach

Hahaha, whats up Dan? Make it back in one piece? And yea, I've heard of some law about not driving on the beach.....silly laws...



Here's ours by the way. We tend to make it down onto the beach every so often!

 

[78Southwind]

Here's the deal Chris pick up a Zone for cheap I am sure you could work these guys down a bit since they picked it up for near nothing (as seen on this video http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=7166375).

Drive it for a year and save up some more money, then take it to Wicked Carts and have him turn it into a Long Travel Zoner.:skull

Nice job Wicked Carts...I saw this on www.nevzone.com back in may of last year.

 

[78Southwind]

Not with Lisa driving.....
When you find the $2500 ones, let me know. The Shack is ready for taxi service.

I couple guys on www.nevzone.com pick up some for $2,500. This is one is $3,200 just talk them down and get it shipped. http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/rvs/2358848627.html

As soon as Amanda gets her drivers license she's hired as D<--Zoner-->D.

 

[Mr Wicked]

I'm sorry, I was not refering to side by sides at all. Totally not legal weather drove in or towed into the state. I was refering to out of state regestered golf carts/cars. We're on the same page on that one

Regarding the 7 digit vins...I just haven't had a problem at all. Maybe it's the way we're doing it. I haven't seen the DMV update paperwork on the 7 digit vins yet. I have however had people at the DMV over the years straight trip out when you hand them a vin verification form and request for reg. and the vin is only 7 digits. If they're not familiar with slow moving vehicles and golf carts, there is always an issue.

Interesting about the body code GC can only be two seats....What about 4 foward facing seats? How would the DMV even know? No where on the form does it ask how many seat positions. And if LE pulled you over, what vehicle code section would they use to cite you for the rear facing seats supposing you were belted in, in a seat? I've seen all the legal updates for CVC sections and have missed anything of the sort dealing with this.



And please don't take my text as argumentative...Sometimes things can appear that way on forums and get lost in translation. I'm only discussing.:thumbsup

well on the drive over from the other state was that they are allowing the rhino with az plates in needles cause they drive them over the bridge...


if dmv when they verify the vin numbers the see if its a 2 or 4 seater...
the code itself says 2 seater golf cart used for golfing no to run faster than 15mph..

the LE, DMV or the cerifirld verifier is to know the rules/laws....

my dmv person is going to look up the rear facing seat and gie me a copy or the code for it..... like you said 99% LE will not inforce that unless there issues....

i understand your text... like i posted ealier theres a few ways to do this right or wrong.... me as a shop try to inform people how it should be done... we get the sidexside question every day to me why would you want to risk you 20k toy and get it inpounded and you cant get it until its reg right so have fun....

another note about your trailering the car here... the car still has to be able to be driven from that state to here.... golf cart or quad and sidexside cant...

 

[HolyMoly]

If a vehicle is plated for the street in AZ, it does not need a non-resident OHV permit.

You are only required to get a non-resident off road permit if your state does not have Off Highway Vehicle registration. If you state does have OHV registration, you are not required to get a non resident OHV permit in CA.

Now, some LE may try to write tickets or pressure people to do this, but the law is very clear. Lots of urban myths about "non-resident" permits and even the good ol' "non-DOT" gas can stories.

 

[Mr Wicked]

Here's the deal Chris pick up a Zone for cheap I am sure you could work these guys down a bit since they picked it up for near nothing (as seen on this video http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=7166375).

Drive it for a year and save up some more money, then take it to Wicked Carts and have him turn it into a Long Travel Zoner.:skull

Nice job Wicked Carts...I saw this on www.nevzone.com back in may of last year.

thanks that went to Lost Lakes

cant think of the guys name pretty cool dude

we even had it at the extreme show last year

 

[Mr Wicked]

If a vehicle is plated for the street in AZ, it does not need a non-resident OHV permit.

You are only required to get a non-resident off road permit if your state does not have Off Highway Vehicle registration. If you state does have OHV registration, you are not required to get a non resident OHV permit in CA.

Now, some LE may try to write tickets or pressure people to do this, but the law is very clear. Lots of urban myths about "non-resident" permits and even the good ol' "non-DOT" gas can stories.

a side x side is not considerd and street plate in cali... not stoddard wells if you read the fine print you have to be cal resident to ride there... we have a sheriff buddy that had to read all the off road laws around bell mountain and point that out

 

[pronstar]

a side x side is not considerd and street plate in cali... not stoddard wells if you read the fine print you have to be cal resident to ride there... we have a sheriff buddy that had to read all the off road laws around bell mountain and point that out

Rhino's with AZ street plates need AZ OHV stickers if they're taken off road.
And AZ OHV stickers are good in for OHV use in CA.

All the info you could ever want is right here on CA's website:
http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=25733

 

[HolyMoly]

a side x side is not considerd and street plate in cali... not stoddard wells if you read the fine print you have to be cal resident to ride there... we have a sheriff buddy that had to read all the off road laws around bell mountain and point that out

It is illegal to limit public lands to state residents. Post up the actual code that says what you claim. Fine print on a sign does not make it "law" and would actually contradict existing DMV codes and very easy to beat in court if anyone actually wrote a ticket. It is not law, unless it is code. Even then, it does not make it legal. CA has been a champion of putting illegal laws on the books.

 

[Mr Wicked]

It is illegal to limit public lands to state residents. Post up the actual code that says what you claim. Fine print on a sign does not make it "law" and would actually contradict existing DMV codes and very easy to beat in court if anyone actually wrote a ticket. It is not law, unless it is code. Even then, it does not make it legal. CA has been a champion of putting illegal laws on the books.

it was pointed out to me 12 years ago when you could ride out at wild wash road and the sheriff which road with us pointed it out that he got it online i think under bell mountain or stoddardwells... actually is was 2001 cause i just got back from Kansas ... i thought it was funny that our friend the LE person had to look up rules or laws before he goes and rides in that area... we called him captian america i still laugh about it

 

[HolyMoly]

it was pointed out to me 12 years ago when you could ride out at wild wash road and the sheriff which road with us pointed it out that he got it online i think under bell mountain or stoddardwells... actually is was 2001 cause i just got back from Kansas ... i thought it was funny that our friend the LE person had to look up rules or laws before he goes and rides in that area... we called him captian america i still laugh about it

Still no code posted. With all due respect, this is the same kind of crap that gets posted on Glamis dunes and other places that are usually based on urban myths/legends. You claiming "fine print" shows that you don't know a rule from a law from a myth.

So, for your enjoyment, here is a link to CA State Parks about this very topic. This is a CA law, so all public lands must honor this. Again....someone may have come up with "rules" that don't mean much legally....and no one would actually get a ticket.

http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=25669

If people don't want to click the link...this is what the website that is a ca.gov website says:

Nonresident OHV Use Permits

All vehicles operated off-highway on public lands in California are required to be (1) street-licensed or (2) registered as an off-highway vehicle (OHV). If you are visiting California from another state and your vehicle does not have a current registration from your home state, you must purchase a California Nonresident OHV Use Permit before you recreate on public lands. A title sticker or title plate is not registration. Additional information is available on the FAQs web page. The 2011 Nonresident OHV Use Permits are now available for purchase. The permit fee is $30. To locate a vendor, please download the vendor list PDF listed below.

The 2011 Nonresident permits will be valid from the date of sale through December 31, 2011.

 

[Mr Wicked]

well a couple of things

bell mountain is not a state park

and this was in 2001 and im not going to pull the fine print out of my ass

captain america printed it out and we all sat by the camp fire talking about it....

so rule myth or law i dont care it was written for bell mountain and anyway the west side of wild wash was privite property and that were we road.... so it didnt matter....

 

[HolyMoly]

well a couple of things

bell mountain is not a state park

and this was in 2001 and im not going to pull the fine print out of my ass

captain america printed it out and we all sat by the camp fire talking about it....

so rule myth or law i dont care it was written for bell mountain and anyway the west side of wild wash was privite property and that were we road.... so it didnt matter....

Stoddard wells is managed by CA dept of BLM and subject to the same CA laws.

http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=25669

From the Stoddard Wells website:

All vehicles must have a muffler or spark arrester and have either a street-legal license or be registered as an off-highway vehicle.

There is no "fine print" you speak of. Why don't you actually post up something that supports your claims? Instead of campfire stories?

 

[Tank]

if dmv when they verify the vin numbers the see if its a 2 or 4 seater...
the code itself says 2 seater golf cart used for golfing no to run faster than 15mph..

I believe you are refering to Ca Vehicle Code section 345 that defines a golf cart as such:

A "golf cart" is a motor vehicle having not less than three wheels in contact with the ground, having an unladen weight less than 1,300 pounds, which is designed to be and is operated at not more than 15 miles per hour and designed to carry golf equipment and not more than two persons, including the driver.

Here is where the majority of the confusion comes from LE, DMV and the general public; per the Ca. Veh. Code, a "golf cart" is not registerable or opporable on city streets unless crossing a city street while in use on a golf course.

The way you get around this is Ca. Veh. section 385.5 which defines a "low speed veh." as such:

385.5. (a) A ?low-speed vehicle? is a motor vehicle that meets all of the following requirements:

(1) Has four wheels.

(2) Can attain a speed, in one mile, of more than 20 miles per hour and not more than 25 miles per hour, on a paved level surface.

(3) Has a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 3,000 pounds.

(b) (1) For the purposes of this section, a ?low-speed vehicle? is not a golf cart, except when operated pursuant to Section 21115 or 21115.1.


Now the quesion is always asked...How is a GOLF CART, not considered a GOLF CART when considering it a low speed vehicle? Because, per 345 a GOLF CART is specifically built to carry golf equipment and not more than two passengers. Once you allow more than two passengers and take the golf bag holders off, your cart is no longer a golf cart and is now a low speed vehicle. It is not illegal to carry more than two passengers on a cart (ie low speed vehicle).

the LE, DMV or the cerifirld verifier is to know the rules/laws....

my dmv person is going to look up the rear facing seat and gie me a copy or the code for it..... like you said 99% LE will not inforce that unless there issues....

Regarding thie vin numbers I just spoke to my DMV connection and she explained it that all NEW year models from 2010 on will have 17 digit vins or be required to be re-vin'd. This excludes pre-2010 models. In other words, you can still register 7 digit vin numbers prior to 2010 models.

 

[Mr Wicked]

Holymoly. Mr I need to see it in print guy. How long has Cali do the none res sticker for off road????

 

[Mr Wicked]

Thank tank good info

Well the DMV that my guys won't except the 7 digits

Look at your reg under body what does it show? GC. For golf cart.

When I talk about seats 2 4 6 8. I'm only talking about the rear facing seat


None Cali code you can not covert a golf cart to an lsv or nev.

Even the tax credit stated that too. That's were. Zone star tomberlin got away with there carts being lsv with 17 digit vins

 

[Mr Wicked]

The carts we got back paper work today for were a 15 pass. 8 pass and. 4 seated

 

[HolyMoly]

Holymoly. Mr I need to see it in print guy. How long has Cali do the none res sticker for off road????

I don't know when the laws changed. But you were telling other people in this thread that other DMV laws have changed, while you are still stuck in the year 2000 on the offroad laws! LOL

Here is a better link to the CA BLM concerning this:

http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/barstow/ohvinfo.html

The text on that page states this:

Off-Highway Vehicle Riding

Off-highway vehicle (OHV) riding is one of the major recreational activities in Southern California. Public lands available for OHV use are designated as either "Limited Use" areas or "Open" areas. Vehicles are required to remain on designated routes of travel within all of the "Limited Use" areas; "Open" areas are contained within a formal OHV boundary and permit cross-country travel.

OHVs owned by California residents must be registered with the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) and must properly display a valid "Green Sticker" or "Red Sticker" registration decal on the vehicle. (Red Sticker riding rules and schedule by area are available on the California State Parks Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Division website at www.ohv.parks.ca.gov/ or by calling 916-324-4442.)

If you are not a resident of California and your OHV is not registered in your home state, you are required to have a "Nonresident" OHV permit, issued by the California Department of Parks and Recreation, to legally operate your vehicle in the state of California. The Nonresident decal is to be displayed in the same location on the OHV as that specified for California Green sticker registration decals.

These Nonresident permits ($30 for one year, for each OHV) may be purchased in a variety of ways, including;

(1) from the Wells Fargo Country Store (72129 Baker Blvd.), in Baker, California, just off Interstate-15, between Barstow, California, and the California-Nevada state line;

(2) for Nevada residents living in the Las Vegas area, Nonresident permits may be purchased at the "Rip Cove" motorcycle store in Henderson, Nevada;

(3) nonresident permits may be purchased at Dumont Dunes from an authorized vendor on major holiday weekends (Thanksgiving, New Year's, and President's Day); and

(4) nonresident permits may be purchased by writing to California State Parks, Non-Resident OHV/OSV Permits, P.O. Box 942896, Sacramento, CA 94296-0001. Questions or comments may be directed to the OHMVR Division by calling (916) 324-4442.

I'm not saying that they didn't have those rules/laws in the past. But you only posted what you read around a campfire 10+ years ago. And another reason why what you stated sounded like pure crap is that while Stoddard Wells is ran by the CA BLM, BLM is FEDERAL PUBLIC Land Managment....so, saying that public land owned by the Federal Government had a law to make public land available for recreational use by CA residents only? If those laws existed....they had a very short life. But, even if it is county/city public land, it would not be legal to make public land recreational use limited to city/state residents only.




And here are some of the actual codes for CA:

Off highway vehicles owned by California residents must be registered with the California Department of Motor Vehicles and display a valid Green Sticker or Red Sticker Vehicle Identification Tag (38020,38010 C.V.C.) in a clearly visible location on the vehicle. (38170 C.V.C.) View Red Sticker riding schedule .

Off highway vehicles that do not have a valid registration or permit from the owners home state (incl. Mexico and Canada) will be required to purchase a California nonresident permit (sticker) through selected vendors in CA, NV, AZ ( view vendor list 10/2008). Permits may also be purchased from CA Dept. of Parks and Recreation 916 324-4442. (38020 C.V.C.)

As stated before...lots of people continue on urban myths or major misunderstandings of the law. They may have heard from what they considered a good source, and assume it is true. I rarely assume that, especially when it comes to actual laws. I like to read the actual CODE. If it is not code....it is not law. Agencies can't just make up laws. They can get away with making up reasonable rules, but they are not criminal acts when you violate them....they may just be able to tell you leave. And even that might be very shaky legally. All the people on glamis dunes talking about all the stuff that is illegal....they have lots of stories....but no codes and no proof anyone actually got a ticket. Being harassed by LE about something is not the same as getting an actual ticket.

 

[gqchris]

I couple guys on www.nevzone.com pick up some for $2,500. This is one is $3,200 just talk them down and get it shipped. http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/rvs/2358848627.html

As soon as Amanda gets her drivers license she's hired as D<--Zoner-->D.

Thanks Southwind! Yes I like the looks of the Zones. That would work out just nicely!

 

[OCMerrill]

Holy Moly - Factual shin kicker.


Back in the mid 90's at Glamis we were riding along the Canal coming back from a very long ride from pad 4 into Mexico for Tacos and back. About a 50 mile run or so.

We get lit up by the BLM buggy and we all stop. He has his ticket book in hand. Now were on Banshee's and there is about 12 of us. Every single bike is 100% illegal using lack of spark arresters as a starting point. To this ranger none of this matters. He checks nothing.

He wants to cite us for riding next to the Canal. He says it's illegal. I say where is the sign. He says I don't know and dont care. So your going to write us an illegal ticket because you feel like it? He then says it's also a county ordinance and can write us multiple violations.

How are we supposed to know this? It's common knowledge he said. One of the riders is an Attorney and this common knowledge comment just make him nuts. He tosses out a civil code on "Failure to properly inform and failure to post proper signage. He's making up these codes as we find out later but the officer took his point to heart and we drove on with no cite. I learned a little that day.

So to your point Frank just because its customary to ticket (in this case the canal road) doesn't mean the cite is legally given even though laws may indeed be broken.

 

[Mr Wicked]

everyone has a point

but tank is wrong about the back rear facing seat on a lsv or truck... codes and laws change, like we use to be able to ride in the back of a truck now you cant and you even have to have your animals tied up too...

i will confirm later but i think this is the vehical code CFM49 that prooves my point....

my DMV person will email me later the meranda that he received about the 17 digit vin number on all golf carts and lsv ....

tank's dmv person might not have gotten the meranda yet....

back to holy moly yes the dmv rules of how you register some things have change and laws also have changed on some things too...

LSV is a federal law but each state and city have different rulling on them....

we are fighting with the head councilman in Pismo ... even with plates on carts and lsv he wont allow them to be on the streets in pismo... my uncle lives and has been dealing with this for some time.... im wanting to drive my plated cart and park it in front of the counsil office and take a pic .... and let them ticket me so i can show them the federal low seed laws

even thought in havsu az will allow the sidexside to be reg for the street well Mesa az you have to have the dot wheels and tires, turn signals and dot seat belts.... yamaha, kawi, polaris did not entend this sidexsides to be on the highway......

 

[Tank]

everyone has a point

but tank is wrong about the back rear facing seat on a lsv or truck...

I know a little bit about a lot of stuff and I don't claim to be an expert in many things, however I would fancy myself an expert in the ca vehicle code.

You can absolutely ride in the back of a truck per Cvc section 23116 and I know of no specific law prohibiting riding in the rear facing seats of a GC.

 

[Tank]

we are fighting with the head councilman in Pismo ... even with plates on carts and lsv he wont allow them to be on the streets in pismo... my uncle lives and has been dealing with this for some time.... im wanting to drive my plated cart and park it in front of the counsil office and take a pic .... and let them ticket me so i can show them the federal low seed laws

a city has the option of adopting local regulations (muni codes) against certain things such as open container, loitering, etc. Pismo could have adopted an ordinance against golf carts on public roads but that ordinance would not stand up in court if someone sued under discrimination. Golf carts are low speed, handi cap accessible, low income vehicles. Someone would win a lawsuit on that in a flat second!

 

[Mr Wicked]

I know a little bit about a lot of stuff and I don't claim to be an expert in many things, however I would fancy myself an expert in the ca vehicle code.

You can absolutely ride in the back of a truck per Cvc section 23116 and I know of no specific law prohibiting riding in the rear facing seats of a GC.

well tank for code numbers i dont know them.... sn trust me i not saying im an expert... now i do the cart side x side thing for a living so i try to keep up on the updates laws rules so i can forward them to the owners...

i have now spoken to 3 dmv people and several LE and they will soon have the right code about the rear facing seats....


codes and laws can be tricky....

there is no law or code ( and if im wong im sure tank will step in and no disrespect intended there) say you Cant pull a trailer in the car pool lane...

the law and/or code states pulling trailers are only allowed for the right 2 lanes only... so with that law it keeps you from going over 5 lanes to get in the car pool....

 

[Tank]

well tank for code numbers i dont know them.... sn trust me i not saying im an expert... now i do the cart side x side thing for a living so i try to keep up on the updates laws rules so i can forward them to the owners...

i have now spoken to 3 dmv people and several LE and they will soon have the right code about the rear facing seats....


codes and laws can be tricky....

there is no law or code ( and if im wong im sure tank will step in and no disrespect intended there) say you Cant pull a trailer in the car pool lane...

the law and/or code states pulling trailers are only allowed for the right 2 lanes only... so with that law it keeps you from going over 5 lanes to get in the car pool....

You are absolutely correct about the trailers. And you're correct about how laws can be tricky. To put even more of a spin on things LE DMV and cities routinely interpret the exact same laws differently. When I'm interpreting a law, I know I can walk into a court room and win the case based on the facts.

But the interpretation is what is confusing when dealing with this stuff (and the majority of other CVC, PC, H&S, etc codes!!)

By the way, you guys build insane stuff. You have a pic of thev15 passenger? I'd like to build one!

 

[Mr Wicked]

my thought is why do you want to waste your time by prooving your point in court???? theres been a guy in newport thats been ticketed by the same LE for the same code and they guy goes to court and wins but thats too much time to proove a point.....

the 15 passenger was a china cart built by Gator they guy screwed up the registration on it so we fixed it for him

 

[Tank]

my thought is why do you want to waste your time by prooving your point in court???? theres been a guy in newport thats been ticketed by the same LE for the same code and they guy goes to court and wins but thats too much time to proove a point.....

the 15 passenger was a china cart built by Gator they guy screwed up the registration on it so we fixed it for him

I DON'T want to waste my time in court at all. But the ultimate final decision would be a court on your interpretation of the law. So I compare my interpretation to that when reading the law. Lots of grey area in all law. The guy getting cited over by the same officer has a good harassment complaint for the citing department.

No pics of the 15 pas monster?

 

[Mr Wicked]

it was like this but white

 

[Tank]

it was like this but white

That's tight as hell!!! How much!?

 

[Mr Wicked]

15K plus

72 volt 5 speed trans

 

[Tank]

15K plus

72 volt 5 speed trans

Jesus! Nice. Not too bad considering an ezgo 6 pas is 10k+

 

[Mr Wicked]

thats for it being stock now you can put a bad azz sound system in that and some wicked 14" wheels would be very kool

 

[Eros562]

The "laws" have not really changed. But the way the DMV interperates them has. Thus the DMV updates regarding golf carts/cars. A year or so ago specific guidlines were put in place using existing laws in an attempt to take out some of the confusion in the subject.



Absolutely false. You can trailer any vehicle into the state and it is still usable...For example - show cars, people with multiple cars driving in from out of state, etc. There is no where in the Ca. Vehicle Code that states this. The only thing it does state is that a vehicle needs to be driven 6 months of the year out of the state or registered with in 10 days of moving full time to the state.



Agreed, mostly because the DMV employee (as with most LE) are not up to speed on GC statutes. DMV is very strict regarding this subject, but not impossible.



As I stated in the previous post, you will need a certified letter of exemption from smog to go with your request for reg and VIN verification. This basically states that the CC and HP is under the limit required for smogging thus being considered a low emitions veh.



I just had three 7 digit EZ-GO's vin verified and registered two weeks ago with out issue...And one was a gas cart. There is a major problem with Club Cart vins due to them having a number in all of their vins that is not used by DMV (I don't recall the letter/number off hand). This will get the vin kicked back and a flag/hold put on the vin. There is a way around this though.

I've also had no less than five friends that live near us on the beach that have opted to not have registration assistance (via the company I use). They opted to have the VIN completed, fill out the reg and take them to the local DMV in person. All recieved plates with out issue. This has been over the past year or so, with the most recent, four months ago (a gas EZGO TXT).

I've been registering golf carts for street use for the past five years. It can be a pain but is 100% completely doable. And I agree it depends on the city you live in. If the local LE has a hard on to not have golf carts on the road (even thoug they are legal), they can make it difficult and not worth while for the owners.

Hey Tank,
I was doing some research and came across this post. My ezgo has been cali plated for about 3 years now and my registration is expiring soon. I mailed in the renewal and just got a notification of incomplete registration due to a missing smog check ? Reading what you mentioned above it sounds like i need a certified letter? Would i need to see chp about generating the letter?

 

[Tank]

Hey Tank,
I was doing some research and came across this post. My ezgo has been cali plated for about 3 years now and my registration is expiring soon. I mailed in the renewal and just got a notification of incomplete registration due to a missing smog check ? Reading what you mentioned above it sounds like i need a certified letter? Would i need to see chp about generating the letter?

Hey. Dredging up an oldie lol things have changed a bit in the past nearly 13 years. First the DMV started cracking down on gas carts, while electric is fine. More difficult to get them plated now from what I hear. I haven’t been involved in this stuff in a few years so I’m not up to speed on all the current statutes and ins And outs any more.

I do know most manufacturers finally got on board with shipping units ca compliant and street legal. So they’re registered right out of the dealer like an auto dealership. And from what I know, while most are electric, there’s still some gas models.

We did just pay the reg in our gas 6 seater and no problems. If I were you I would go to your local DMV and explain this is a slow moving vehicle and is exempt from smog do to being only 8hp or whatever yours is. Find out what they say since you obviously can’t smog your cart.


Sorry I’m not of more help.

 

[King295]

Hey. Dredging up an oldie lol things have changed a bit in the past nearly 13 years. First the DMV started cracking down on gas carts, while electric is fine. More difficult to get them plated now from what I hear. I haven’t been involved in this stuff in a few years so I’m not up to speed on all the current statutes and ins And outs any more.

I do know most manufacturers finally got on board with shipping units ca compliant and street legal. So they’re registered right out of the dealer like an auto dealership. And from what I know, while most are electric, there’s still some gas models.

We did just pay the reg in our gas 6 seater and no problems. If I were you I would go to your local DMV and explain this is a slow moving vehicle and is exempt from smog do to being only 8hp or whatever yours is. Find out what they say since you obviously can’t smog your cart.


Sorry I’m not of more help.

I just renewed mine as well. Only issue was my insurance company not notifying DMV of my insurance. Had to mail proof of insurance in twice. When I called my agent to get it sorted out I got hit with the massive premium increase due to the "recent high volume of claims for these vehicles and due to changes in CA requirements". Sweet.

 

[Tank]

I just renewed mine as well. Only issue was my insurance company not notifying DMV of my insurance. Had to mail proof of insurance in twice. When I called my agent to get it sorted out I got hit with the massive premium increase due to the "recent high volume of claims for these vehicles and due to changes in CA requirements". Sweet.

ALL insurance is going through the roof. Auto, boat, RV, house, etc. inflation.

 

[C-Ya]

Where I live there are 2 different classifications for street legal golf carts. They are either a Low Speed Vehicle (LSV) or a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle (NEV). I am pretty sure the above 2 classifications are National.

FWIW…….. I pay almost 2k per year for insurance for my LSV. It is insured as a custom vehicle with a current replacement value of 25k. It was insured for 15k, but the replacement costs have gone up. It’s worth it to me because I enjoy it!

 

[Eros562]

Hey. Dredging up an oldie lol things have changed a bit in the past nearly 13 years. First the DMV started cracking down on gas carts, while electric is fine. More difficult to get them plated now from what I hear. I haven’t been involved in this stuff in a few years so I’m not up to speed on all the current statutes and ins And outs any more.

I do know most manufacturers finally got on board with shipping units ca compliant and street legal. So they’re registered right out of the dealer like an auto dealership. And from what I know, while most are electric, there’s still some gas models.

We did just pay the reg in our gas 6 seater and no problems. If I were you I would go to your local DMV and explain this is a slow moving vehicle and is exempt from smog do to being only 8hp or whatever yours is. Find out what they say since you obviously can’t smog your cart.


Sorry I’m not of more help.

Haha yea a bit of an oldie. i appreciate you getting back to me. I am going to head to AAA and let them know it is a LSV and see if that gets me anywhere.

 

[OCMerrill]

My 1999 Yamaha is plated and Gas. It actually came off Catalina. Perhaps thats why I haven't been hassled.
Its $141 a year CA DMV plus liability insurance of about the same. So $300 a year to drive the thing from Emerald Cove to the Rio 1/4 mile and vice versa.
It truly has been the best cart and we've had it for 5 years now. DMV has been quiet.

When you go to AAA take pictures with you.