CA Turning Around OR Fire Trucks Because Of Smog!??

[n2otoofast4u]

One of my buddies is chirping that a bunch (or all) of the trucks we sent down to CA from here in OR were stopped in Sacramento and not allowed to proceed be they are not smog tested!!!????

Can anyone confirm this is true? My brain says this is fake news, but nothing would surprise me.

 

[DRYHEAT]

Don’t know for sure, but that sounds like BS usually emergency vehicles are exempt, but it is California.

 

[boatpi]

Back in the 1980s there was a lot past that exempt all new emergency emergency vehicles per meeting California pollution standards they can meet at that time the other 48 state standards
Mainly because the cars were such Weezers California police cars had a problem keeping up with any type of violator. I would think that law still stands today.

 

[socal0487]

One of my buddies is chirping that a bunch (or all) of the trucks we sent down to CA from here in OR were stopped in Sacramento and not allowed to proceed be they are not smog tested!!!????

Can anyone confirm this is true? My brain says this is fake news, but nothing would surprise me.

Inspected but not smog tested.

 

[Taboma]

According to Calfire this post in Oregon claiming this is fictitious and the inspection process was explained earlier by another RDP contributor.

Per Cal Fire ----
A spokesperson with CAL Fire says that is patently false. "No vehicles from Oregon have been turned around or refused service at Davis Mobile Equipment and all out-of-state vehicles have been services and are heading to or have arrived in Southern California. No emissions testing was performed. All repairs were completed the same day with the exception of a couple because of parts but turn around was early next day," CAL Fire Spokesperson via email.

“These inspections ensure all engines on an emergency scene are equipped, mechanically sound, and able to respond. This ensures our number one priority of a safe deployment for our firefighters,” the Oregon State Fire Marshal’s Office said.

 

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[TimeBandit]

Fake news, Inspected by Cal Fire and have been on the scene working since Friday morning.

 

[4Waters]

Government vehicles don't get smogged

 

[monkeyswrench]

Thursday night, headed home down I40, saw an impressive sight. Just west of Ashfork, in a neatly spaced convoy, 6 or 7 forestry type, ground crew transports. They were being followed by some trucks, and may have been led by some as well. It was too dark to make out the names, but they were on a mission. My guess is they were going to be working come sun up.

 

[77charger]

Sounds fake to me but there’s always some YouTuber or equivalent who likes to make a name for himself and will post crap like this up. Anyone who believes it is just as stupid too.

I think ca politics are crazy looney too but don’t see them doing something like this.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Sounds fake to me. My son in-law is at the Palisades fire from Prescott Arizona and they had no issues bringing their truck in.

 

[Gramps]

for the past three fire seasons I have sent type 3 and type 6 engines to California fires from Utah. As long as we have the current DOT inspection sticker on the truck and all current related paperwork there are a no issues. BUT dealing with the idiots at CalFire and the ANF on paperwork for the crews on the deployment is usually a friggin nightmare.

 

[Cdog]

No CARB certification on them diesel engines.

It’s possible on small private fire departments but big dirty uncle government gets deleted trucks and specific to government

 

[4Waters]

No CARB certification on them diesel engines.

It’s possible on small private fire departments but big dirty uncle government gets deleted trucks and specific to government

I don't believe that's true, I'm pretty sure our engines have DEF, they are compliant.

 

[Cdog]

I don't believe that's true, I'm pretty sure our engines have DEF, they are compliant.

Must be a CA Carb deal. I don’t think epa first responders have to. We do have an option when ordering for a deleted version

 

[4Waters]

I know this sounds bad but it would be great if this were true and resources were being turned around because of compliance. It would be the end of newsoms political career and would possibly be the end of CARB

 

[4Waters]

Must be a CA Carb deal. I don’t think epa first responders have to. We do have an option when ordering for a deleted version

Interesting. I'm not 100% but I'm curious now and I'm going to ask. I wouldn't be surprised if this is California thing

 

[FlyByWire]

Absolutely the fuck not

 

[Cdog]

Interesting. I'm not 100% but I'm curious now and I'm going to ask. I wouldn't be surprised if this is California thing

I’ll take a look at it tomorrow when I log onto Peterbilt for truck truck specs

 

[timstoy]

We had to smog our police cars and do opacity test our heavy trucks in Long Beach. I don’t remember any DEF or opacity testing on the Fire trucks but I retired four years ago so it might have changed.

 

[HBCraig]

We had to smog our police cars and do opacity test our heavy trucks in Long Beach. I don’t remember any DEF or opacity testing on the Fire trucks but I retired four years ago so it might have changed.

In th port of LA/LB, Carb has guys in small trucks running around checking for EIN numbers on equipment. Seriously. It's ridiculous
I deal with this shit all the time. I'm not able to sell used cranes in California. Even if it's 3 months old.

 

[dribble]

Government vehicles don't get smogged

Government vehicles are subject to the same testing requirements as private vehicles. Many government entities with multiple vehicles do their testing in house. At BAR we took our assigned vehicles to regular smog check stations for testing. There are exemptions for military vehicles because they are housed on federal property.

There is a section in the vehicle code which states that government fleet emergency vehicles over a certain weight do not have to be built to meet any additional requirements that California might have. This is because it would be too costly to change the build specs for a relatively small number of heavy duty emergency vehicles. Mainly fire trucks and ambulances.

 

[Kachina26]

General rule of thumb with stories on the internet. If it makes you really mad and encourages you to share, it's probably fake. And, it's probably designed to discredit those that share thereby discrediting everything they share.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Must be a CA Carb deal. I don’t think epa first responders have to. We do have an option when ordering for a deleted version

I'm ok with them bending rules on this. I hate the rules, but when my vehicles go into limp mode there isn't a fire headed at me. I know for a while, the forestry 1tons out here were all V10's. When I asked why, they said safety and not getting trapped.

 

[4Waters]

Government vehicles are subject to the same testing requirements as private vehicles. Many government entities with multiple vehicles do their testing in house. At BAR we took our assigned vehicles to regular smog check stations for testing. There are exemptions for military vehicles because they are housed on federal property.

There is a section in the vehicle code which states that government fleet emergency vehicles over a certain weight do not have to be built to meet any additional requirements that California might have. This is because it would be too costly to change the build specs for a relatively small number of heavy duty emergency vehicles. Mainly fire trucks and ambulances.

Ok

 

[socal0487]

No CARB certification on them diesel engines.

It’s possible on small private fire departments but big dirty uncle government gets deleted trucks and specific to government

California Fire Engines are definitely not deleted.

 

[napanutt]

California Fire Engines are definitely not deleted.

Same with Caltrans trucks. Hell, they were killing their power by retro fitting for smog emission standards.

 

[socal0487]

Same with Caltrans trucks. Hell, they were killing their power by retro fitting for smog emission standards.

It’s proven to be a problem. Our engines don’t run at an RPM high enough and long enough to do a regen on its own so we have to force a regen when the dash light comes on. We put it on the apron in front of the station and it takes 40 minutes or so to do its thing. Many times having to stop it mid regen and respond to calls.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Is LAFD still running those new electric fire engines? I’m sure they’re great in areas with power outages.

 

[monkeyswrench]

It’s proven to be a problem. Our engines don’t run at an RPM high enough and long enough to do a regen on its own so we have to force a regen when the dash light comes on. We put it on the apron in front of the station and it takes 40 minutes or so to do its thing. Many times having to stop it mid regen and respond to calls.

That's insane. I know talking to our town mechanic, their issue is DOD in cop cars. Idle time kills them. They haven't moved any of their heavies to modern trucks for this reason. They tend to get "hand me downs" from larger municipalities. As things have progressed though, even those are more modern.

 

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I know this sounds bad but it would be great if this were true and resources were being turned around because of compliance. It would be the end of newsoms political career and would possibly be the end of CARB

I was thinking the same thing. When victims of the fires ask why additional help was turned away you could respond that their equipment wasn't compliant to operate in the state. Victims will say what the fuck that's fucking stupid. Respond with it's state law and the people of California voted for it, you people as a state did this to yourselves. Too bad, live with your choice. They should be bringing in the electric fire trucks and show the people how "great" it is.

 

[JayBreww]

“Allegedly” this is from a CalFire Engine record book.
I’d be sure to say fire engines get smog tested and have that dumb blue DEF cap.

 

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[BHC Vic]

I don’t get it. My buddy that works for cal fire is sitting at home and says they don’t have orders. My other buddy who just became an engineer was sitting at home all weekend playing w the kids. I didn’t ask but i kind of figured it would be all hands on deck

 

[JayBreww]

I don’t get it. My buddy that works for cal fire is sitting at home and says they don’t have orders. My other buddy who just became an engineer was sitting at home all weekend playing w the kids. I didn’t ask but i kind of figured it would be all hands on deck

Where do they work and when have they last worked. They could be on Vacation.
There’s a staffing pattern in place, at the bottom of that list. If one got off on Tuesday, they could have gotten 5 days off and not had to come back in till yesterday.

 

[BHC Vic]

Where do they work and when have they last worked. They could be on Vacation.
There’s a staffing pattern in place, at the bottom of that list. If one got off on Tuesday, they could have gotten 5 days off and not had to come back in till yesterday.
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My buddy Roger is usually home for the weekends and in Blythe during the week. Try’s to work local for ot but that’s kind of hit or miss. Joe is cal fire he lives in like Bakersfield or out that way. My wife said they are making him do some training or something though

 

[JayBreww]

My buddy Roger is usually home for the weekends and in Blythe during the week. Try’s to work local for ot but that’s kind of hit or miss. Joe is cal fire he lives in like Bakersfield or out that way. My wife said they are making him do some training or something though

RL started Vacation on Saturday, why you saw him home this weekend, “allegedly”

 

[BHC Vic]

RL started Vacation on Saturday, why you saw him home this weekend, “allegedly”

You guys need to give him better vacation days

 

[JayBreww]

You guys need to give him better vacation days

Union workers.

 

[mjc]

I was thinking the same thing. When victims of the fires ask why additional help was turned away you could respond that their equipment wasn't compliant to operate in the state. Victims will say what the fuck that's fucking stupid. Respond with it's state law and the people of California voted for it, you people as a state did this to yourselves. Too bad, live with your choice. They should be bringing in the electric fire trucks and show the people how "great" it is.

CARB is full of unelected bureaucrats nobody voted for them.

 

[Outdrive1]

I saw this posted just now. I don’t have the energy to tell him it’s fake.

 

[BHC Vic]

Union workers.

We’ve got him hooked on desert camping trying to talk him into a rzr. He said he can’t get hurt because you guys don’t get disability the way I would so no dirtbike they are like family to us, if I’m not working there’s a good chance we are hanging out.

 

[timstoy]

Generally the Fire trucks have a safety inspection done after they are released from duty and returning to their home base. When we sent Fire trucks to a distant location they will have a safety inspection done by a Fleet fire mechanic before they are released for service. The Fire trucks are generally inspected by the lead fire authority before returning to their home base. When the Fire trucks return to the city they are given another safety inspection before they are allowed to return to service in the city.

 

[lbhsbz]

Hard to even consider that anyone would believe some shit like this....we've got a bunch of shit burning and someone believes that anyone might give 2 fucks about the emissions system on fire trucks while there's smoke in the air that you can't see through blowing 50 miles out from the fires? Seriously? Hate to be that guy.... but if you were one that considered that this was a thing....you're a goddam fucktard.


CA knows they're gonna get a big bill for the help they're asking for/getting here....Any idiot would give a quick inspection to the equipment that he'd be paying for before committing to it. That's what's happening. I've been listening to the scanner....there were a few crews that came in without PPE to deal with wildland fires, dispatch was limiting them to in-town structure fires and looking for a place to put 'em....most of the crews responded "no", because they need to handle both as they come up. What's the point of sending down crews limited to what local crews already have handled?

 

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Hard to even consider that anyone would believe some shit like this....we've got a bunch of shit burning and someone believes that anyone might give 2 fucks about the emissions system on fire trucks while there's smoke in the air that you can't see through blowing 50 miles out from the fires? Seriously? Hate to be that guy.... but if you were one that considered that this was a thing....you're a goddam fucktard.


CA knows they're gonna get a big bill for the help they're asking for/getting here....Any idiot would give a quick inspection to the equipment that he'd be paying for before committing to it. That's what's happening. I've been listening to the scanner....there were a few crews that came in without PPE to deal with wildland fires, dispatch was limiting them to in-town structure fires and looking for a place to put 'em....most of the crews responded "no", because they need to handle both as they come up. What's the point of sending down crews limited to what local crews already have handled?

It is California...

 

[lbhsbz]

It is California...

Even California isn't that fucking stupid.

 

[JayBreww]

Even California isn't that fucking stupid.

But some californians are.

 

[lbhsbz]

But some californians are.

Yep, and you can pick those outta the crowd because they re-post dumbass made up shit they see on tik tok all over the internet

 

[n2otoofast4u]

Even California isn't that fucking stupid.

I beg to differ! NOTHING would surprise me coming from that state!!