Buying another motorcycle after a major accident.

[wsuwrhr]

:thumbup: Exactly, BMW is the sh*t. This is my BIL Duc, nice bike but with cars and bikes I'll take the BMW!

That girl is just pure sex...

 

[Eddie511]

:thumbup: Exactly, BMW is the sh*t. This is my BIL Duc, nice bike but with cars and bikes I'll take the BMW!

Nice bike!! As far as the BMW goes like i said its just incredible. Even working on the bike was awesome. Every last thing on the bike is thought out.

 

[Froggystyle]

BMW all the way. I've owned two Ducs, and the BMW GS. My next bike will definitely be a BMW after owning one.

Toss up between the most powerful, amazing sport bike I've ever ridden, the S1000RR, or my favorite, the HP2 sport, which is harder to find, more expensive, but tons of character.

It's a hot rod boxer motor, and has a pull unto its own. Really neat bike to ride.

 

[Hallett Dave]

Brian,
The choice is yours and yours only.
I made the decision to quit riding on the pavement back in 1968 when I had to lay a BSA that belonged to my Dad's friend in Wild Rose Canyon on a trip to Death Valley.
The pavement in the hairpin turn was compromised with DG from an earlier rain. The bike and I came to a stop literally two feet from going off a 300 ft. cliff. There was no guard rail in that turn.

I thank God that the bike and I stopped when we did.
My Dad and some friends were following in pick up trucks.
We straightened some shit out on the bike and I road the rest of the way to Furnace Creek.
After that trip I continued to ride my Suzuki X6 for a few months until graduation from high school in 1968.
I gave it up.

I decided that playing football in college was more important to me than riding street or road bikes.

I've had my share of injuries and surgeries from college football and Rugby over the years but I'm still here to enjoy life and share good times with my family,friends and loved ones.

Brian, I wish you the best. You and your family have a blessed Christmas.

Old Hallett Dave

 

[h2o225]

When I was in my early 20s I rode a lot. Had an ol kz750 then a kz 1000. Rode at the time a new Duc what an incredible thrill. Was riding home on1 day from San Bernardino and a car pulled out in front of me, was able to stop short of hitting it. The person driving just looked at me like I was crazy. Rode to Idywilde on day came around a corner hit some gravel laid the bike down. After getting up and looking at my hands and the hamburger they turned in to glad the glove were on or probably would have two stumps now. Nothing broken was able to get off the mountain. I was always careful and aware of everything around me.
I gave up my bike when the the old man driving his brand new caddy made a left turn in front of me and again I was able to avoid eating the car and asphalt.
Bottom line for me is we all can make choices, but we cannot decide for others. If they made everyone who gets a drivers license ride a motorcycle for 6 months or a years before they could drive a car it would make for car drivers more aware of motorcycles. That being said I will be picking up my dads 1500 vulcan this summer as he cant ride anymore.

 

[Froggystyle]

Well... These stories are all compelling Brian. Only you can make the decision.

I personally have been a licensed motorcycle rider since I was 16. I rode a motorcycle as my primary means of transportation until I was 22. I had more miles on bikes than in cars until I was 24 and married. I have raced, ridden like I was racing and toured. I have owned eight street bikes, four dirt bikes. I am an experienced rider.

I have never had a near miss. I've never laid down a bike, hit a mystery patch of gravel or had a guy pull out in front of me. Sure, I'm lucky, but I'm also the most defensive rider you have ever met.

In shooting, they say there are two types of shooters... Those that have had an AD (accidental discharge) and those who are going to. Same is said about riding. Shooters who have had an AD are better, safer shooters. They are more conscientious, and more respectful of the weapon. I've had mine... And maybe it shaped my respect for riding too.

You've had your AD. You will forever be more conscientious of the penalty for failure.

You'll be fine. Buy a BMW.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Ive had an AD as well

Well... These stories are all compelling Brian. Only you can make the decision.

I personally have been a licensed motorcycle rider since I was 16. I rode a motorcycle as my primary means of transportation until I was 22. I had more miles on bikes than in cars until I was 24 and married. I have raced, ridden like I was racing and toured. I have owned eight street bikes, four dirt bikes. I am an experienced rider.

I have never had a near miss. I've never laid down a bike, hit a mystery patch of gravel or had a guy pull out in front of me. Sure, I'm lucky, but I'm also the most defensive rider you have ever met.

In shooting, they say there are two types of shooters... Those that have had an AD (accidental discharge) and those who are going to. Same is said about riding. Shooters who have had an AD are better, safer shooters. They are more conscientious, and more respectful of the weapon. I've had mine... And maybe it shaped my respect for riding too.

You've had your AD. You will forever be more conscientious of the penalty for failure.

You'll be fine. Buy a BMW.

 

[Crazyhippy]

Ive had an AD as well

Really good looking girls will do that to you...

 

[wsuwrhr]

Really good looking girls will do that to you...

Yes sir

 

[Eddie511]

This might sound crazy but I feel safer on my bike then I do my cars. Even the wife says she feels better when I ride the bike. Reason being is when I drive to work when I've been putting in a lot of hours it's just a constant fight to stay awake. I end up driving by Braille using the sounds of the reflectors to stay in my lane. When I'm on the bike I'm very aware of what's going on around me. I'm always concerned what everyone else is doing. Plus I like having the power to throttle out of any trouble I see.

I've talked to people who crashed there bikes and say" I never even touched my front brake! I don't know why it went down". What?!! Keith Code school says don't even bother with your rear brake. I think my rear brake is getting rusty. Sad to say but I think a lot of fatalities on motorcycle would have been prevented if the rider actually knew what their bike is capable of. Car pulling out in front of you is a excellent example. Only use your front brake! That rear tire is a giant centrificle force that is keeping you upright. As soon as you lock it up now it's gone and plus roads have a crown for rain run off. The back locked up wheel is now sliding to your right and down you go. Only thing to stop you is a curb or a car. That example is takin straight out of Keith Codes book "Twist of the wrist 2".

Sorry for the rant but motorcycles are my main passion. I just wish it took more training before people were aloud to ride a bike.

 

[spectras only]

Car pulling out in front of you is a excellent example. Only use your front brake!

You seem to have a solution for every scenario here. Little car that pulled out from a stop sign was a mere 20' from me when the driver decided to get go.
Driver turned out to be an old lady in her 80's. I'd like to see what you'd have done in a kamikaze move like it. Going 35 mph you won't stop in 20' without making contact. I flew over the hood of the car landing on the other side. I've been around bikes since the mid 60's and every one of my buddies including some seasoned racers had a few scrapes here and there. Only ones never had issues were riding mopeds [ like my brother ] like a grandma!

 

[wsuwrhr]

Yep, it happens, I have had my share of close calls. Some I could have avoided, some I couldn't have. All of them I learned from. I haven't gotten as far as I have based on luck alone.

Brian

 

[Eddie511]

You seem to have a solution for every scenario here. Little car that pulled out from a stop sign was a mere 20' from me when the driver decided to get go.
Driver turned out to be an old lady in her 80's. I'd like to see what you'd have done in a kamikaze move like it. Going 35 mph you won't stop in 20' without making contact. I flew over the hood of the car landing on the other side. I've been around bikes since the mid 60's and every one of my buddies including some seasoned racers had a few scrapes here and there. Only ones never had issues were riding mopeds [ like my brother ] like a grandma!

Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying I have an answer for every situation. Some thing are out of my control. If some one decides to " kamikaze " into me then there's nothing I can do about that. Everything you do in life is a risk. I just choose to do everything a I can to increase my odds of surviving.

 

[Eddie511]

Yep, it happens, I have had my share of close calls. Some I could have avoided, some I couldn't have. All of them I learned from. I haven't gotten as far as I have based on luck alone.

Brian

Brian. I don't know the details of your accident. I wasn't trying to say what you should have done in your situation I was just using the example used by a lot of instructors. I assume because this is the type of accidents you always seem to hear about. I have a lot of miles on public roads and race tracks. I have to believe I'm still around because of the decisions I make and not just dumb luck. I'm not that lucky.

 

[Universal Elements]

You seem to have a solution for every scenario here. Little car that pulled out from a stop sign was a mere 20' from me when the driver decided to get go.
Driver turned out to be an old lady in her 80's. I'd like to see what you'd have done in a kamikaze move like it. Going 35 mph you won't stop in 20' without making contact. I flew over the hood of the car landing on the other side. I've been around bikes since the mid 60's and every one of my buddies including some seasoned racers had a few scrapes here and there. Only ones never had issues were riding mopeds [ like my brother ] like a grandma!

How long ago was your encounter and year & model of bike?

 

[wsuwrhr]

Brian. I don't know the details of your accident. I wasn't trying to say what you should have done in your situation I was just using the example used by a lot of instructors. I assume because this is the type of accidents you always seem to hear about. I have a lot of miles on public roads and race tracks. I have to believe I'm still around because of the decisions I make and not just dumb luck. I'm not that lucky.

I replaced the rear pads on my 900 last year when it had 50K miles. id say that is pretty good miles.

 

[spectras only]

How long ago was your encounter and year & model of bike?

1975 Moto Guzzi 850 cruiser [ heavy pig]

I'm extremely careful riding my 1958 Matchless with drum brakes,hehe.

 

[Froggystyle]

Also FWIW, the BMW has the most advanced ABS system available, along with traction control. It leaves so goddamn hard and stops hard enough to empty change from your pockets.

 

[Universal Elements]

Also FWIW, the BMW has the most advanced ABS system available, along with traction control. It leaves so goddamn hard and stops hard enough to empty change from your pockets.

And no constant software updates like the Duc. You can buy a 2013 BMW with under 5000 miles for $13k.

 

[Froggystyle]

And no constant software updates like the Duc. You can buy a 2013 BMW with under 5000 miles for $13k.

At the very least, anyone buying a bike today needs to ride one. No question.

It lacks a little of the character that the Italians just drip with, but replaces it with technical brilliance and mechanical competence.

I like the new Duc better... For a bunch of reasons... There's just a beauty to them that is really tough to describe. Makes you want to smoke an unfiltered cig and ding supermodels.

But I'm gonna buy the Bimmer.

 

[Froggystyle]

Here was my last Duc...





Reminds me of my V-drive... Hell for powerful, gorgeous, attracts men, and hard to drive fast.

 

[WTMFA]

I know nothing about an Agusta. I did however, ride with an IBM account rep friend of mine who ONLY rode BMW's. He went from an old school boxer to the first ABS bike BMW made. He put almost 40k miles on that bike the first year he owned it (says a lot in my book)
I'm not a big fan of "inline motor" bikes. I've owned them but, they just seem to lack the personality I feel a bike should have (along with the growl and torque:skull)
I have nothing against them "per se" but, most "jap" bikes lack the personality I'm referring to................while they are well built machines...........for the "most part" they are just to plain and cookie cutter to me. When I buy (or build) a bike.........it not only has to perform well, when I look at it, it has to make me say to myself.........."self"..........."that fuckers bad ass".......:skull
The only thing I'm more picky about than my bikes...............is my women.......

Don't be in a hurry...........shop around...........READ THE FORUMS about a bike you may like. Nothing better than getting feedback from multiple people who have owned the bike you're considering.

Don't settle, buy the bike you really like :thumbup:

 

[Rvrluvr]

I know nothing about an Agusta. I did however, ride with an IBM account rep friend of mine who ONLY rode BMW's. He went from an old school boxer to the first ABS bike BMW made. He put almost 40k miles on that bike the first year he owned it (says a lot in my book)
I'm not a big fan of "inline motor" bikes. I've owned them but, they just seem to lack the personality I feel a bike should have (along with the growl and torque:skull)
I have nothing against them "per se" but, most "jap" bikes lack the personality I'm referring to................while they are well built machines...........for the "most part" they are just to plain and cookie cutter to me. When I buy (or build) a bike.........it not only has to perform well, when I look at it, it has to make me say to myself.........."self"..........."that fuckers bad ass".......:skull
The only thing I'm more picky about than my bikes...............is my women.......

Don't be in a hurry...........shop around...........READ THE FORUMS about a bike you may like. Nothing better than getting feedback from multiple people who have owned the bike you're considering.

Don't settle, buy the bike you really like :thumbup:

What forum do you read when you shop for women?

 

[WTMFA]

What forum do you read when you shop for women?

Ashley Madison...............:skull