Bunk Repair.

[lakebound]

I know Bunkrepair is the man in Havasu for getting bunk boards done. Is there anyone in the Phoenix area that is good?

Any help will greatly appreciated.

 

[RiverDave]

Technically adrenaline is the Bunkrepair place for rdp, but Sean does a shitload of members bunks..

 

[Jed-O]

Technically adrenaline is the Bunkrepair place for rdp, but Sean does a shitload of members bunks..

Dave, do you know if he will travel to Havasu Springs/Hillcrest Bay?

 

[bunkrepair]

Yes I do havasu springs parker bullhead needles kingman Katherine's where ever I need to be!

 

[kiethco]

Just talked to Sean, got him lined up to do my bunks on Fathers day weekend, easy peasy since we'll be camped at Crazy Horse. Sweet!

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

Kid has his shit together. Got married, had a baby and bought a house all in the last year. He takes care of his customers well.

Did mine last week.

 

[gqchris]

Technically adrenaline is the Bunkrepair place for rdp, but Sean does a shitload of members bunks..

Adrenaline did mine last year, real happy with their work and prices. Also got my brakes done etc. i like the ease of them being a one stop shop now.

 

[Jed-O]

Yes I do havasu springs parker bullhead needles kingman Katherine's where ever I need to be!

Awesome! Ill put your number into my phone. Can you pm me a ball park estimate? Trailer has two 2 x 10 bunks 16' long. I would also like to spread the rear portion out about an inch on either side to center the boat better. Boat is a Cougar 21' tunnel v-drive.

 

[ILSMKU]

Adrenaline did mine last year, real happy with their work and prices. Also got my brakes done etc. i like the ease of them being a one stop shop now.

I just had my trailer painted and some boat gelcoat done with Wayne over there and my experience was NOT good at all. I think my pictures will speak for themselves. I asked for my white trailer to be painted red like my boat. I got maroon. My boat is red. I requested they dont just spray my brakes, rotors, pads, calipers, etc and they did it anyway. I have paint runs all over. Two tone red colors, some spots not even painted. I've had three independent shops look at it and just say "wow" It has to all be redone. ...And it will be! Im not eating 3400 bucks.


I ask for red like my boat and I got two tone maroon:
http://i.imgur.com/GO6huFq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TaAXwwn.jpg

Walls of paint run:
http://i.imgur.com/Z5bQZnT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1iiVrgP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sOEcodM.jpg

Brakes I asked not to be painted but were anyhow and now they stick:
http://i.imgur.com/Ug7ynVE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mYiYwiJ.jpg

Whats all this?:
http://i.imgur.com/69H5xyd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3CIV0au.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ezwp8DY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qsfNSem.jpg




PS: This is only HALF the issue.

 

[crzy2bealive]

Did you ask them to make it right?

 

[glamis081201]

Wow that looks like crap

 

[ILSMKU]

Did you ask them to make it right?

Ive had three back to back negative experiences with them. This job was supposed to be there redemption for the past issues and this is what I got instead. They wont ever touch my boat or trailer again.

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

They did work on my trailer and redid the fender pads and didn't use stainless bolts. Granted it's not going in salt water but everything on a boat or trailer needs to be stainless.

 

[gqchris]

Im glad you finally outed the name of the shop that did this to your boat and trailer. I asked on a couple threads to please let us know who burned your gel coat. Looks like Im going back to Saleen for my gel work. Was going to give Adrenaline a chance, but not after seeing your boat.

 

[gqchris]

They did work on my trailer and redid the fender pads and didn't use stainless bolts. Granted it's not going in salt water but everything on a boat or trailer needs to be stainless.

Never thought to check that on mine. I just assumed they would use stainless. Will look this weekend.

 

[ILSMKU]

Im glad you finally outed the name of the shop that did this to your boat and trailer. I asked on a couple threads to please let us know who burned your gel coat. Looks like Im going back to Saleen for my gel work. Was going to give Adrenaline a chance, but not after seeing your boat.

I wanted to get legal counsel before I did anything. I got quotes from everyone in town and they all said it was burned and the only way to fix it is to repaint my WHOLE boat. Thats another big issue about to hit.

 

[bunkrepair]

I know a lot about adrenaline but I'm not here to bash anyone!

I have heard they don't use stainless hardware, they told a past customer that stainless tarnishes and makes no difference! I take these things apart weekly I cut non stainless off all the time and just simply unbolt stainless hardware!

 

[CampbellCarl]

Technically adrenaline is the Bunkrepair place for rdp, but Sean does a shitload of members bunks..

Umm, meaning that you endorse the kind of work shown above?

You may want to rethink this one...before another member takes a chance.

 

[Andy B.]

I know a lot about adrenaline but I'm not here to bash anyone!

I have heard they don't use stainless hardware, they told a past customer that stainless tarnishes and makes no difference! I take these things apart weekly I cut non stainless off all the time and just simply unbolt stainless hardware!

You know what's funny I haven't read one bad review on bunkrepair!:thumbup: Quality,awesome customer service speaks for itself! And yes he did an awesome job on my trailer!!:thumbup:

 

[RiverDave]

Umm, meaning that you endorse the kind of work shown above?

You may want to rethink this one...before another member takes a chance.

Lol.. Well there is always two sides to every story Carl and I have heard both. I'm not getting in the middle of it, but will say there has been 100's of customers from Rdp that have used adrenaline and all have been happy (including myself).

RD

 

[Cole Trickle]

Lol.. Well there is always two sides to every story Carl and I have heard both. I'm not getting in the middle of it, but will say there has been 100's of customers from Rdp that have used adrenaline and all have been happy (including myself).

RD

There work definatley looks sub par on the trailer pictured above. I would be pissed and we would be having some serious issues if the work was as described.

Everyone can have a bad day....It's how they respond and make it right that makes a company solid.

 

[glamis081201]

I wanted to get legal counsel before I did anything. I got quotes from everyone in town and they all said it was burned and the only way to fix it is to repaint my WHOLE boat. Thats another big issue about to hit.

So you took your boat and trailer there to get dialed in and they both came out WORSE. CRAZY

 

[glamis081201]

Lol.. Well there is always two sides to every story Carl and I have heard both. I'm not getting in the middle of it, but will say there has been 100's of customers from Rdp that have used adrenaline and all have been happy (including myself).

RD

How is there two sides to this story when you have painted brake parts, paint runs, wrong color, not painted well? Come on

 

[RiverDave]

The trailer isn't the problem. All that could be and would be fixed in a matter of hours.

The demanding an entire boat being regelled (20,000?) for a problem that they feel they had nothing to do with is probably the larger issue here. I'm guessing there Isnt much motivation to do anything when you got that coming down the road at ya..

I'm not speaking for Wayne on any level here fyi. Just saw all the before and after pics etc..

It's a terrible situation and I can see both sides of it.

 

[RiverDave]

Im glad you finally outed the name of the shop that did this to your boat and trailer. I asked on a couple threads to please let us know who burned your gel coat. Looks like Im going back to Saleen for my gel work. Was going to give Adrenaline a chance, but not after seeing your boat.

When all that hit the boards it was claimed that a shop "burned through the gel" wetsanding and buffing" the boat. You could actually see the black fiberglass through the gel of the boat.. Pretty cut and dry right?

Except this is a before pic where a gel repair was going to be made on one of the nicks in the hull. If you look at the red surrounding it you can see the black was there before they touched the boat. Their position is they discussed the condition of the boat before doing anything and just lightly sanded and buffed the boat to shine it up as best ya can without doing anymore damage.

The owner now claims there is portions of the boat that are so thin it turned pink etc.. I dunno who is right or who isn't.. I assume that's gonna get figured out in court pretty quick.

What I do know is it isn't fair to crucify a shop for burning through gel when it's pretty clear that it was a pre existing condition.



When the owner picked up the boat he was happy. Other people told him "they burned through the gel". And he wasn't happy. I never saw it before or after so I can't say how good or bad it was before or after. I can just say that Wayne's got pics like the one shown.. So I'm guessing a new Gelcoat probably isn't in the cards when it all shakes out..

But as such with life when it's all over everybody will hate everybody.. He will mother f adrenaline until the cows come home. Wayne will keep quiet.. And I will bump this thread and that pic every time it happens.. Whole deal is fucked. And sucks for both sides.

 

[RiverDave]

Ive had three back to back negative experiences with them. This job was supposed to be there redemption for the past issues and this is what I got instead. They wont ever touch my boat or trailer again.

That boat or trailer hasn't been back to Adrenaline since you picked it up. Just clarifying because this post leads one to believe that this is the third time it was painted..

 

[ILSMKU]

When all that hit the boards it was claimed that a shop "burned through the gel" wetsanding and buffing" the boat. You could actually see the black fiberglass through the gel of the boat.. Pretty cut and dry right?

Except this is a before pic where a gel repair was going to be made on one of the nicks in the hull. If you look at the red surrounding it you can see the black was there before they touched the boat. Their position is they discussed the condition of the boat before doing anything and just lightly sanded and buffed the boat to shine it up as best ya can without doing anymore damage.

The owner now claims there is portions of the boat that are so thin it turned pink etc.. I dunno who is right or who isn't.. I assume that's gonna get figured out in court pretty quick.

What I do know is it isn't fair to crucify a shop for burning through gel when it's pretty clear that it was a pre existing condition.

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When the owner picked up the boat he was happy. Other people told him "they burned through the gel". And he wasn't happy. I never saw it before or after so I can't say how good or bad it was before or after. I can just say that Wayne's got pics like the one shown.. So I'm guessing a new Gelcoat probably isn't in the cards when it all shakes out..

But as such with life when it's all over everybody will hate everybody.. He will mother f adrenaline until the cows come home. Wayne will keep quiet.. And I will bump this thread and that pic every time it happens.. Whole deal is fucked. And sucks for both sides.

I didnt ask to be put in this situation Dave. You ask those who work on my boat, people Ive meet on this forum, the former owner of my boat, and even Tony at Magic (where the previous owner keep it) can tell you my ONE sponson they worked on didnt look like this before. It was sold red like the other side. Not sanded so thin the black shows thru and I do have a burn in the top most white edge which THEY put there. And I would be FINE having it fixed if they could do red and it MATCH. Everyone in town has told me the only way to fix the over sanding and burn is to paint the whole top from rub rail up or do the whole boat. Ive been told that rubrail up wont match the bottom.

I spent big money at Adrenalin on stero last year. Subs pop when I touch helm buttons. They never fixed.
I spent money at Enduro for LED lights and cables, wires. They forgot to do a light.
I come back a THIRD time asking them to make good on stereo, the missing LED light and I would THROW more money to them and this is how I got my boat back.

And Im the asshole?


Here is the problem. Those pics I had of the black showing thru is the sposon and front wind shields edge. Not the hull as you are showing for whatever reason.
http://i.imgur.com/hUmDY1p.jpg

 

[RiverDave]

The pic posted demonstrates the gel was already thin on the whole boat. It isn't a secret that the magics from that era were kinda "blow and go" boats as they were building a ton of them.

Like I said I have no idea what is or isn't.. It sucks for both parties.

That being said I think contacting Wayne directly would probably go a long ways towards getting the trailer work all redone. He has offered and you haven't replied yet.

Start by talking to him.

 

[ILSMKU]

The pic posted demonstrates the gel was already thin on the whole boat. It isn't a secret that the magics from that era were kinda "blow and go" boats as they were building a ton of them.

Like I said I have no idea what is or isn't.. It sucks for both parties.

That being said I think contacting Wayne directly would probably go a long ways towards getting the trailer work all redone. He has offered and you haven't replied yet.

Start by talking to him.

What is there to talk about Dave? He wont refund me. I want my money back. And I think I have every NORMAL reason to want it.

They still havent fixed my stereo thumping (ground issue) issue from last year.
They did a horrible job on my trailer. Three other shops laughed and said total redo down to metal.
They didnt man up to burning my gel or over sanding it at all. Instead told me its this or that until like you they finally stated its my cheap paint.
They have insulted my wife and I's character in writing.

And there only "offer" on my boat; if you would call it that; is having me pay for supplies for them to try and fix there repairs.

My wife was told the only refund we would get is the 400 dollar charge for color sanding. That I did get out of the 6-7k I spent.


Thats not much of an offer for something I didn't do. And funny you mention my paint. There 3rd and last reason for the discoloration was cheap magic paint. Yet I cant help but wonder, if the professionals I hired to do what they suggested I do (color sand areas they said need it) knew this, then why the hell did they keep sanding when the black was showing up? Isnt that gross negligence?


They know I want my money back. And again after back to back to back issues can you blame me?

 

[RiverDave]

What is there to talk about Dave? He wont refund me. I want my money back. And I think I have every NORMAL reason to want it.

They still havent fixed my stereo thumping (ground issue) issue from last year.
They did a horrible job on my trailer. Three other shops laughed and said total redo down to metal.
They didnt man up to burning my gel or over sanding it at all. Instead told me its this or that until like you they finally stated its my cheap paint.
They have insulted my wife and I's character in writing.

And hes only "offer" on my boat if you would call it that is having me pay for supplies for them to try and fix there repairs.


Thats not much of an offer for something I didn't do. And funny you mention my paint. There 3rd and last reason for the discoloration was cheap magic paint. Yet I cant help but wonder, if the professionals I hired to do what they suggested I do (colorsand areas they said need it) knew this, then why the hell did they keep sanding when the black was showing up? Isnt that gross negligence?


Wayne knows I want my money back. And again after back to back to back issues can you blame me?

As said a few times in this thread.. I'm not sure what's what with any of this. I never saw it before or after. You posted some pretty libelous things and it's pretty one sided.. I just posted the other side of things that Wayne told me awhile ago.

The only actual "facts" that I know are this

Fact # 1 - Trailer is Fucked
Fact # 2 - Wayne will fix the trailer for free
Fact # 3 - Stereo has a ground issue (first I've heard of it)
Fact # 4 - Jesse's guy stands behind his stereo stuff, they will fix it for free
Fact # 5 - Gel Coat is thin on boat, you claim he burned through it.
Fact # 6 - Wayne's got pics of the boat previous to them buffing it that shows the gel was thin to begin with.

Everything else is just "he said / she said" stuff.

You can absolutely say

if the professionals I hired to do what they suggested I do (colorsand areas they said need it) knew this, then why the hell did they keep sanding when the black was showing up? Isnt that gross negligence?

And Wayne is gonna turn around and say

"We told him it was thin, and he told us to do it anyways. We were as gentle as we could be."

I don't know what's true or not, nor would I pretend to.

At the end of the day you put up one side of the story.. I put up a portion of the other side solely because it's a shop that I recommend highly and consistently.

What you are going to do moving onto the future is completely up to you.

If you are interested in knowing what I would do then I would start by calling Wayne. I would schedule an appointment to have them completely strip and repaint my trailer the correct color and to my satisfaction. (meaning it would have to be better then your average trailer paint job) I would have them fix the stereo, and I would probably move on with my life.
The rest of it with the gel etc.. I'm not sure Wayne would ever "man up" to something he doesn't feel they did. For all of us in RDP land we have no idea if he did or didn't. All that we know is he's got pics of the boat before he did any work to it, and I just posted one that clearly shows you can see the "black" previous to them doing anything. If it's thin there, then odds are high it was thin everywhere, especially in the corners and radius's where gel is typically thinnest anyways.

Like I said earlier.. It's a bad situation for both parties, and I'm not sure there is a solution that is gonna make you walk away happy from this deal no matter what.

RD

 

[ILSMKU]

As said a few times in this thread.. I'm not sure what's what with any of this. I never saw it before or after. You posted some pretty libelous things and it's pretty one sided.. I just posted the other side of things that Wayne told me awhile ago.

The only actual "facts" that I know are this

Fact # 1 - Trailer is Fucked
Fact # 2 - Wayne will fix the trailer for free
Fact # 3 - Stereo has a ground issue (first I've heard of it)
Fact # 4 - Jesse's guy stands behind his stereo stuff, they will fix it for free
Fact # 5 - Gel Coat is thin on boat, you claim he burned through it.
Fact # 6 - Wayne's got pics of the boat previous to them buffing it that shows the gel was thin to begin with.

Everything else is just "he said / she said" stuff.

You can absolutely say



And Wayne is gonna turn around and say

I don't know what's true or not, nor would I pretend to.

At the end of the day you put up one side of the story.. I put up a portion of the other side solely because it's a shop that I recommend highly and consistently.

What you are going to do moving onto the future is completely up to you.

If you are interested in knowing what I would do then I would start by calling Wayne. I would schedule an appointment to have them completely strip and repaint my trailer the correct color and to my satisfaction. (meaning it would have to be better then your average trailer paint job) I would have them fix the stereo, and I would probably move on with my life.
The rest of it with the gel etc.. I'm not sure Wayne would ever "man up" to something he doesn't feel they did. For all of us in RDP land we have no idea if he did or didn't. All that we know is he's got pics of the boat before he did any work to it, and I just posted one that clearly shows you can see the "black" previous to them doing anything. If it's thin there, then odds are high it was thin everywhere, especially in the corners and radius's where gel is typically thinnest anyways.

Like I said earlier.. It's a bad situation for both parties, and I'm not sure there is a solution that is gonna make you walk away happy from this deal no matter what.

RD

Look, I realize they are a vender of yours. I get it. But you were very kind to me when I first got my boat. You offered to help me out and I always remembered that and thought highly of you.

But they did this to my gelcoat. I have a million instagram photos, GEO location and time stamped with a nice normal looking sponson in normal red. And my front windshield doesn't have a mustache it has now.

If the paint is too thin, then you stop. You dont keep going. I dont care if my paint is paper thin or 1 inch thick. Its your job as a professional gelcoat repair shop to know when to stop. Not mine. Thats what Im paying them for.


But in efforts to hopefully say Ive had a beer with you one day Dave, Im going to stop talking about this with you. No hard feelings dude. Giving me my money back would be a great start for him. He has my address...





Sponson Last trip oct 19th 2014
http://i.imgur.com/QVmFcjf.jpg

Sponson top end of summer
http://i.imgur.com/1KovcOD.jpg

 

[CobraDave]

The trailer isn't the problem. All that could be and would be fixed in a matter of hours.

The demanding an entire boat being regelled (20,000?) for a problem that they feel they had nothing to do with is probably the larger issue here. I'm guessing there Isnt much motivation to do anything when you got that coming down the road at ya..

I'm not speaking for Wayne on any level here fyi. Just saw all the before and after pics etc..

It's a terrible situation and I can see both sides of it.

I think the trailer is a problem. We all know they can fix the trailer but they let it leave the shop in the horrific condition it was. I'm convinced. Definitely not using them for my trailer or any type of boat work.

They damaged his boat and don't want to admit it because that would mean having to fix it. Have some god damn integrity.

 

[RiverDave]

Well post a pic of it now?

 

[Riverbound]

As said a few times in this thread.. I'm not sure what's what with any of this. I never saw it before or after. You posted some pretty libelous things and it's pretty one sided.. I just posted the other side of things that Wayne told me awhile ago.

The only actual "facts" that I know are this

Fact # 1 - Trailer is Fucked
Fact # 2 - Wayne will fix the trailer for free
Fact # 3 - Stereo has a ground issue (first I've heard of it)
Fact # 4 - Jesse's guy stands behind his stereo stuff, they will fix it for free
Fact # 5 - Gel Coat is thin on boat, you claim he burned through it.
Fact # 6 - Wayne's got pics of the boat previous to them buffing it that shows the gel was thin to begin with.

Everything else is just "he said / she said" stuff.

You can absolutely say



And Wayne is gonna turn around and say

I don't know what's true or not, nor would I pretend to.

At the end of the day you put up one side of the story.. I put up a portion of the other side solely because it's a shop that I recommend highly and consistently.

What you are going to do moving onto the future is completely up to you.

If you are interested in knowing what I would do then I would start by calling Wayne. I would schedule an appointment to have them completely strip and repaint my trailer the correct color and to my satisfaction. (meaning it would have to be better then your average trailer paint job) I would have them fix the stereo, and I would probably move on with my life.
The rest of it with the gel etc.. I'm not sure Wayne would ever "man up" to something he doesn't feel they did. For all of us in RDP land we have no idea if he did or didn't. All that we know is he's got pics of the boat before he did any work to it, and I just posted one that clearly shows you can see the "black" previous to them doing anything. If it's thin there, then odds are high it was thin everywhere, especially in the corners and radius's where gel is typically thinnest anyways.

Like I said earlier.. It's a bad situation for both parties, and I'm not sure there is a solution that is gonna make you walk away happy from this deal no matter what.

RD

I can see the multiple sides to every story thing. But here's a few things I see

First off. That trailer looks like absolute dog shit And should have never ever left the shop looking like that. Unless that's the quality of work they want to be known for. Even if it were done for free in a backyard somewhere. I would be livid if that was my trailer.

Secondly. The whole burning/sand through the gel part. If they knew the gel was thin in spots and certain parts during the project they should have stopped immediately. Whiley boat was getting color sanded and buffed there were a few thin spots. Guess what? Danny at WCMI is now repairing those spots at the end of the day they are the gel experts. Again that is work that NEVER should've left their shop. Unless that's the quality of work they want to be known for.

It's a touchy situation but at the end of they knew the gel was thin they should have stopped and called the customer. Or refused to do the work ( they are the experts) of the customer danced said work them a waiver of some sort should've been signed.

What I see here is a shop trying to blame the customer for them doing a shit job. And no matter what RD if that was your boat you would have lost your mind.

 

[Riverbound]

What is there to talk about Dave? He wont refund me. I want my money back. And I think I have every NORMAL reason to want it.

They still havent fixed my stereo thumping (ground issue) issue from last year.
They did a horrible job on my trailer. Three other shops laughed and said total redo down to metal.
They didnt man up to burning my gel or over sanding it at all. Instead told me its this or that until like you they finally stated its my cheap paint.
They have insulted my wife and I's character in writing.

And there only "offer" on my boat; if you would call it that; is having me pay for supplies for them to try and fix there repairs.

My wife was told the only refund we would get is the 400 dollar charge for color sanding. That I did get out of the 6-7k I spent.


Thats not much of an offer for something I didn't do. And funny you mention my paint. There 3rd and last reason for the discoloration was cheap magic paint. Yet I cant help but wonder, if the professionals I hired to do what they suggested I do (color sand areas they said need it) knew this, then why the hell did they keep sanding when the black was showing up? Isnt that gross negligence?


They know I want my money back. And again after back to back to back issues can you blame me?

On the flip side. Have you been in contact with them to see what they are willing to do? I can understand your aggravation though. I would be livid if my boat looked like that. And they expected me to take it home. I wouldn't have taken delivery of the boat until it was perfect.

 

[Cray Paper]

What a messy situation,the shop being an advertiser on the site makes it worse. The trailer repaint looks like crapola, no question about it.

Color sanding paint or gelcoat is a risky proposition.Go through the clear on a modern automotive paint job and you know it immediately and the panel has to be re sprayed. Color sanding a tape shaded gelcoat blend is delicate work and if the tinted gel (resin) is thin... your F'd. I've gone through on both. Gel coat is tinted resin, you cant tell how thick it is and boats are not the same as mass produced automobiles. My Eliminator was really thin on the shaded blend on the deck but not on the sides or back. I tried to polish out a small deep scratch on the deck (no white) and hit it lightly with 1500 then 2000 grit, after a couple swipes of well lubricated 2k grit, wallah. The purple fade changed colors. The white gel under it made the scratch into a larger lighter purple spot but the surface area was now flat.

If the shop was asked to feather out a scratch in a shaded blend, they should have made it perfectly clear what the downside could be. If they did and it was ignored, well, that's not on the shop.

The fix for repairing the gel coat might be worse than leaving it. A spot repair will leave an edge where the thick gelcoat is taped off. Repairs can look great and or not noticeable, but they are done in reverse of what the initial gelcoat process was when the boat was built. You will feel a lip every time you wash or wax the boat.

Paper thin gelcoat on a custom boat should be a no no but I can see how certain areas of a boat can be that way when being built.

 

[Rattle Can Lou]

I have read all this and really wanted to let it go...but I had Wayne build a trailer complete...bad experience. It was a 5800.00 mistake..and when I made a call to him about the front tongue jack...he was supposed to call me back...but that never happened...and I live in Boise ID..so the likeliness of the trailer going back is nil...

If you wanted details you could message me...otherwise you would be reading for a long time..