Bud Light partners with trans activist

[RiverDave]

It’s worth it to those who care.
It isnt worth it to those with ties to revenue or sponsorship.

Lol ok Tommy it’s obviously about money (which I have never profited from).

Sick stab at my integrity though lol

 

[was thatguy]

Lol ok Tommy it’s obviously about money (which I have never profited from).

Sick stab at my integrity though lol

Not at all my intention, not in the least.
Just pointing out that all these millions of people on the boycott bandwagon do not have a financial stake in any of it.

 

[RiverDave]

Dave I hope your night obviously goes well and off without a hitch.
Your opinion and perceived gross over reaction is just that. Your opinion. We also have ours. I haven’t posted in here but maybe once.
You seem to need this brand and that’s okay. But some us don’t and refuse to just say. Oh it was only a case. Or two employees. I still call BS. It was a whole marketing team and company.

I don’t need a brand for anything.. as most know I drink CL. I Just know the distributor personally and I know the employees.. more importantly I know what they have done for all of us in one way or another by supporting the boating industry via all the events and supporting Parker / havasu / bullhead etc.. air show? Boat shows? Rockabilly.. there is no event out here that would happen or even function without Romer. It’s scary to say that but it’s a fact.

 

[RiverDave]

Not at all my intention.

Well good then we can have beers today.. (well we could either way). Lol

 

[was thatguy]

Well good then we can have beers today.. (well we could either way). Lol

As I just edited, my suggestion is that boycotters have no financial stake. It’s easy to chest pound when it doesn’t cost you.

 

[TeamGreene]

I have a close friend that works in AB corporate....I asked him about this yesterday, and he said that the campaign could not have went this far without corporate knowing, anything that they put out with their label on it, has MANY checks and approvals way up the chain...one person in marketing could never get this done on their own...he also told me that nobody has been fired, but said there has been alot of closed door meetings and things going on with the big wigs that he has never saw before...

This is exactly my thought when it was said it happened and CEO etc didn't know. Does anyone think that a junior vp in marketing would be able to put Trump on a can and only two people know about it? No chance and it didn't happen with putting a dude in drag on one either.

 

[hallett21]

I don’t need a brand for anything.. as most know I drink CL. I Just know the distributor personally and I know the employees.. more importantly I know what they have done for all of us in one way or another by supporting the boating industry via all the events and supporting Parker / havasu / bullhead etc.. air show? Boat shows? Rockabilly.. there is no event out here that would happen or even function without Romer. It’s scary to say that but it’s a fact.

Does he have to continue to make minimum purchases even if they are not selling to restaurants etc?

 

[poncho]

I have a tremendous amount of respect for any company or celebrity that replies its none of your business when the cry baby's try to pin them down.

Why take a chance on alienating up to 50% of your audience, I just don't get it.

 

[hallett21]

The Red Elephant on Instagram: "Big time 🤣"

114K likes, 1,629 comments - theredelephantt on April 18, 2023: "Big time 🤣".

www.instagram.com

 

[Racey]

My site never got hacked…. It was attacked there is a difference.

The rest…. You guys are seriously bordering on tin foil here.

It might sound stupid on the surface, but it's 100% confirmed from all the way back in 2016, There was a PAC called "Correct The Record" founded by David Brock that was paying 10s of thousands of people to spread talking points and steer conversations on every major online forum, we aren't just talking facebook here, we are talking comments sections of news stories, reddit, etc etc. It was pretty much their core business model. Pay per post. CTR was employed against Bernie Sanders AND Trump

After the 2016 election that model was pivoted into Brock's media company Share Blue, where the were paying individuals to go onto websites and post anti-Trump rhetoric after he entered office.

This isn't some conspiracy theory, it's been widely reported.

It's incredibly effective at demoralizing opposition, as people eventually get fed up and stop posting against the shill army. It's also incredibly effective at generating consensus and herd mentality on issues for those sympathetic to that side.

Reddit is a prime example of this technique's outcome.

There is no way our own government agencies aren't using these methods as well given how effective they are..... How do you think the coup in Ukraine 2014 was able to happen so easily....


Edit: As far as the boycott of BL goes, it's also very effective, because it serves as a warning to other companies that may be looking to enter these highly polarized arenas that maybe they ought to just keep their mouths shut and focus on selling their product, not alienating their customers. And realistically this goes both ways. Imagine the liberals if AB-Inbev came out and endorsed Trump, they would lose their minds even worse than what is happening now. It's just not smart business.

 

[Sharky]

Want to watch a neat story about Coors from back in the 80's?

AFL-CIO sure had it out for Coors back then.

Neat part of the story is when they where talking about working for Coors, pay & benefits. Back then, it was a dream job to land a spot working for Coors. Great pay and fantastic benefits. For LIFE!! Had a friend that retired from Coors. He was a brick layer. His job was to build & repair the kilns for the kettles to brew the beer.

He also did a lot of the brick work in the buildings for Coors. He did very well working there and still collects a very nice check every month in retirement.

My wife, who is from NewYork, used to manage the Coors pension plan in the NY office. She moved out here when her company opened the Denver office. She said Coors had probably the best pension plan her company ever handled. Coors took very good care of their employees.

 

[Devilman]

Imagine the liberals if AB-Inbev came out and endorsed Trump, they would lose their minds...

Yup, they did just that in 2016 when the owner of Yuengling endorsed/supported Trump after Trump Jr visited their brewery. The alphabet community along with the Dems had hissy fits over it lol

 

[pronstar]

I have a close friend that works in AB corporate....I asked him about this yesterday, and he said that the campaign could not have went this far without corporate knowing, anything that they put out with their label on it, has MANY checks and approvals way up the chain...one person in marketing could never get this done on their own...he also told me that nobody has been fired, but said there has been alot of closed door meetings and things going on with the big wigs that he has never saw before...

I’d love to be a fly on the wall at those meetings…

 

[Danger Dave]

I like where its heads at.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648840884635705344

 

[PlanB]

I like where it's heads at.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648840884635705344

This motherfucker needs to be taken out of society.

 

[pronstar]

I like where it's heads at.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648840884635705344

my sides

 

[hallett21]

I like where it's heads at.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648840884635705344

 

[4Waters]

I like where it's heads at.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1648840884635705344

It honestly won't be the last thing I do. You say you would rather die, well by the looks of it you're on the right track, keep eating and sitting on your ass

 

[Desert Whaler]

Interesting to me that 'sales in general' at individual retailers, bars, and or restaurants are, or could suffer.
Wouldn't 'Bud/ Bud Light Drinkers' who wanna boycott the brand just purchase another beer to drink?
Hypothetically the retailers, should still be selling the same volume of 'beer', just maybe not the Bud/ Bud light brand.

I can see how it would effect sales reps. / distributors . . . but it shouldn't be a hit to the establishments.

I mean, how many Bud/ Bud Light Light Drinkers are simply going to quit drinking beer all together? . . . not too many I'd venture to say.

 

[regor]

 

[rivermobster]

And the trans community wonders why there is so much hatred towards them?

This piece of fuck is lucky it wasn't my daughter he exposed himself too...

Trans woman showered with four Wisconsin high school girls, violated their privacy, letter to district claims

A letter sent by a law group claimed that the Wisconsin-based Sun Praire Area School District has not "adequately" addressed a violation of privacy rights after a transgender woman walked into a shower with girls inside of it.

www.foxnews.com

Hey AB, you wanna support these people? FUCK YOU!!!

 

[poncho]

And the trans community wonders why there is so much hatred towards them?

This piece of fuck is lucky it wasn't my daughter he exposed himself too...

Trans woman showered with four Wisconsin high school girls, violated their privacy, letter to district claims

A letter sent by a law group claimed that the Wisconsin-based Sun Praire Area School District has not "adequately" addressed a violation of privacy rights after a transgender woman walked into a shower with girls inside of it.

www.foxnews.com

Hey AB, you wanna support these people? FUCK YOU!!!

One of my best friends grew up in that area and his Son is raising his family in SunPrairie, that's serious farm country outside of town, I don't see that playing out real well there.

 

[rivermobster]

And then...

Last August, convicted sex offender and self-identified transgender woman Shane Jacob Green, also known as Stephanie, was arrested and charged with two counts of sexual assault at a women's shelter in Parry Sound, Ontario, after allegedly raping one of the women there, according to the Toronto Sun.

Trans woman crawled into bed with, assaulted female resident at women's shelter: police

A self-identified transgender woman was arrested Tuesday following a report that she sexually assaulted a woman after crawling into bed with her at a women's shelter in Ontario.

www.foxnews.com

 

[rivermobster]

And then...


"On Sept. 1, 2022, I was severely injured in a high school volleyball game by a transgender athlete on the opposing team. I suffered from a concussion and a neck injury that to this day I am still recovering from. Other injuries I still suffer from today include impaired vision, partial paralysis on my right side, constant headaches, as well as anxiety and depression."

High school volleyball player says she suffered concussion after being injured by trans athlete, calls for ban

North Carolina high school volleyball player Payton McNabb spoke about the injuries she sustained in a game after getting spiked by a trans athlete during a game in September.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Racey]

Tim Pool made a very good point about this. Bud Lights target audience is 21-80 year olds, why the F would they employ an influencer who's audience is 13-16 year olds...

The VP of marketing literally said it herself she wanted to target a younger audience during her video response. Dylan's audience is Tik-Tok, and within that it's majority children.

Clay Travis tweeting now that she has been put on a leave of absense.

I heard something crazy that within the first 2 days they had a 10% drop in BL sales, I'd be really interested to know what the real numbers now that we are a month in.

Several of the local bars say the only BL they are selling, if at all, is Draught, as nobody can tell what you're drinking. It's anecdotal, but i wonder how bad it really is.

It's gotta be bad with all the stuff they have tried grasping at to walk this whole shit show back.

 

[FreeBird236]

Tim Pool made a very good point about this. Bud Lights target audience is 21-80 year olds, why the F would they employ an influencer who's audience is 13-16 year olds...

The VP of marketing literally said it herself she wanted to target a younger audience during her video response. Dylan's audience is Tik-Tok, and within that it's majority children.

Clay Travis tweeting now that she has been put on a leave of absense.

I heard something crazy that within the first 2 days they had a 10% drop in BL sales, I'd be really interested to know what the real numbers now that we are a month in.

Several of the local bars say the only BL they are selling, if at all, is Draught, as nobody can tell what you're drinking. It's anecdotal, but i wonder how bad it really is.

It's gotta be bad with all the stuff they have tried grasping at to walk this whole shit show back.

Seems like they've tried everything except a real apology.

 

[Havaduner]

Went in to the "beer garden" at the street fair yesterday. ( or whatever the grass area is called)
Line for beers (AB products) was 50 deep easy.
Didn't think to take a pic.
Guess thirst won out for a bunch of peeps.

 

[regor]

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

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The fact they’ve not removed her tells us everything…they don’t disagree with what she did.

As a corporation, they are frightened of the Trans community. Now they are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea.

 

[Cray Paper]

It might sound stupid on the surface, but it's 100% confirmed from all the way back in 2016, There was a PAC called "Correct The Record" founded by David Brock that was paying 10s of thousands of people to spread talking points and steer conversations on every major online forum, we aren't just talking facebook here, we are talking comments sections of news stories, reddit, etc etc. It was pretty much their core business model. Pay per post. CTR was employed against Bernie Sanders AND Trump

After the 2016 election that model was pivoted into Brock's media company Share Blue, where the were paying individuals to go onto websites and post anti-Trump rhetoric after he entered office.

This isn't some conspiracy theory, it's been widely reported.

It's incredibly effective at demoralizing opposition, as people eventually get fed up and stop posting against the shill army. It's also incredibly effective at generating consensus and herd mentality on issues for those sympathetic to that side.

Reddit is a prime example of this technique's outcome.

There is no way our own government agencies aren't using these methods as well given how effective they are..... How do you think the coup in Ukraine 2014 was able to happen so easily....


Edit: As far as the boycott of BL goes, it's also very effective, because it serves as a warning to other companies that may be looking to enter these highly polarized arenas that maybe they ought to just keep their mouths shut and focus on selling their product, not alienating their customers. And realistically this goes both ways. Imagine the liberals if AB-Inbev came out and endorsed Trump, they would lose their minds even worse than what is happening now. It's just not smart business.

This propaganda machine started long before 2016...I saw it in the mid 2000's in fringe automotive websites like the "the car connection". Some of the paid posters admitted it, they had been paid by Japanese car companies for a decade to go after US auto MFTG's to manipulate US consumer onions. The roots of this shit are deep and planted log before some of you think.

I still remember GM suing 60 minutes and winning because of the same type of shit we have been seeing with the same biased media reporting decades ago. It's no different today, just more obvious because news main stream news agency's have lost all credibility. It started here, 1993, a decade after NBC planted explosives' in a GM truck and falsified the video testing, lied about the set up of the demonstration and " investigation" of saddle tanks of GM trucks. I recall that vividly when I was much younger, and the impact it had to to GM.

NBC Settles Truck Crash Lawsuit, Saying Test Was 'Inappropriate' (Published 1993)

www.nytimes.com

Japan started this, and owned the max amount of US debt allowed by a foreign entity in the 90's. In the late 90's a republican senator pointed it out and how Japan had manipulated their currency and how it hurt the US economy, Japan then threatened to dump their ownership of US bonds. Japan created the roadmap for China, and totally fucked US manufacturing in the late 80's through the early 2000's. When a country devalues their currency in lock step to the US dollar, imparts huge tariffs on US goods imported to their country from the US but pays off politicians, media etc to allow " free trade" to US consumers, it aint free trade. Japan doesn't get a free ride in this shit show, they taught the Chinese how to do it and our US consumers are not intelligent enough to see what is really happening.

Just my .02 from paying attention and caring about the US for 53 years on this planet.

 

[HCP3]

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I thought she resigned? Weird.

 

[4Waters]

The fact they’ve not removed her tells us everything…they don’t disagree with what she did.

As a corporation, they are frightened of the Trans community. Now they are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea.

What are they scared of? They are less than 1% of the population

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

What are they scared of? They are less than 1% of the population

Agree, but the entire progressive left act like a school of sardines. The stick together, no matter what. They duck, dodge and weave in unison.

AB now has to decide which side to pick, it’s that simple.

At this point in this cluster-fuck, it’s just math now. BOD’s will demand results and don’t care about social issues.

 

[4Waters]

Agree, but the entire progressive left act like a school of sardines. The stick together, no matter what. They duck, dodge and weave in unison.

AB now has to decide which side to pick, it’s that simple

Agreed.


If any corporation's are reading this....

Just sell your product the way you've been selling it for decades, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

Agreed.


If any corporation's are reading this....

Just sell your product the way you've been selling it for decades, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

No shit, how hard is it to say nothing?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

The fact they’ve not removed her tells us everything…they don’t disagree with what she did.

As a corporation, they are frightened of the Trans community. Now they are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea.

They can’t remove her without paying her off at this point.

What are they scared of? They are less than 1% of the population

They are not scared of trans people. They are scared of ESG.

 

[RiverDave]

I thought she resigned? Weird.

I was told she resigned and the one beneath her was fired.. I was also told she was gonna get shut canned anyways after the interview which is why she resigned.

 

[RiverDave]

Went in to the "beer garden" at the street fair yesterday. ( or whatever the grass area is called)
Line for beers (AB products) was 50 deep easy.
Didn't think to take a pic.
Guess thirst won out for a bunch of peeps.

Gonna be the same at scfw.. and I appreciate Romer’s support

 

[Singleton]

What are they scared of? They are less than 1% of the population

That 1% causes a ton of noise. Huge reason she is on paid leave.
The blowback from that 1% will be easier to manage as her paid LOA expires and her position is no longer available and she does not return. This will be done without that 1% causing any additional issues.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

They can’t remove her without paying her off at this point.



They are not scared of trans people. They are scared of ESG.

They don’t owe her 7.7 billion in market cap. Her salary is nothing in the equation

They fear the blo back from the Trans community/left

 

[Singleton]

I was told she resigned and the one beneath her was fired.. I was also told she was gonna get shut canned anyways after the interview which is why she resigned.

The marketing team member who picked the he/she was terminated. Did not gain approval to do the social influence campaign they executed on. The VP is on paid LOA. They could not fire her (1% causes major noise, and they don’t want noise). Her LOA will expire and her position is no longer available, so she is gone silently, without the 1% causing addition issues.

 

[JJ McClure]

They don’t owe her 7.7 billion in market cap. Her salary is nothing in the equation

They fear the blo back from the Trans community/left

7.7 b market cap. Why don’t they fear the blow back from straight white men?

 

[Havaduner]

7.7 b market cap. Why don’t they fear the blow back from straight white men?

Because straight white men choose to protest with their wallets. Silently. Everybody else protests in the streets screaming they're oppressed.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

They don’t owe her 7.7 billion in market cap. Her salary is nothing in the equation

They fear the blo back from the Trans community/left

That’s what I mean. She was never going to be “canned” in the traditional sense. She will be paid to go away with an NDA.

They have nothing to fear now but their stock price. What’s the trans/left going to do? Cancel a beer they didn’t drink in the first place?

I would almost guarantee there were ESG ties to this campaign. This was not done in a vacuum.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

7.7 b market cap. Why don’t they fear the blow back from straight white men?

They figured they wouldn’t notice or care.

 

[JJ McClure]

That’s what I mean. She was never going to be “canned” in the traditional sense. She will be paid to go away with an NDA.

They have nothing to fear now but their stock price. What’s the trans/left going to? Cancel a beer they didn’t drink in the first place?

So how do you quietly dump a VP. And then recoup 7.7 b market share? Even my dumb ass isn’t buying Busch light anymore

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

So how do you quietly dump a VP. And then recoup 7.7 b market share? Even my dumb ass isn’t buying Busch light anymore

People forget..

Remember all the people that railed against Target for saying anyone can use any bathroom they want? Remember all the people that said they would never shop there again? They all shop there again now.

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

People forget..

Remember all the people that railed against Target for saying anyone can use any bathroom they want? Remember all the people that said they would never shop there again? They all shop there again now.

This one is different Ash. It’s very easy to just pick up a different 12 pack.

 

[JJ McClure]

This one is different Ash. It’s very easy to just pick up a different 12 pack.

I don’t really shop Target. But now I may freely use any restroom I see. And I mean any. Maybe the sidewalk if necessary.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This one is different Ash. It’s very easy to just pick up a different 12 pack.

It is (was) pretty easy to pick a different retailer since Target is by no means unique. 100% of the people in my circle that said they would never go there again, shop there again..mainly for potential fear to harm of their children or discomfort for themselves. That was a very real driver at the time.

My point is people generally forget… or they make outlandish proclamations they are incapable of doing.. like not watching NFL or NBA ever again. Some followed through, most did not.

Again this one is different as we did get a quick response to the stock price. As I said earlier in the thread, they picked the wrong product with the wrong demographic to mess with.