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My daughter is 8 years old and we are starting to see boys playing in her soccer leagues and camps. Last season she played on an all girls club team that preaches "Girl Power", etc., yet there were a couple of boys in the club and on other teams. Our city youth league also has a couple of boys playing on the girls teams and today she participated in an all girls soccer camp, and sure enough, two boys at camp.

Are any of you seeing this trend at such young ages? And if so, what are you doing about it? This trend of males playing in female sports is getting ridiculous.
 

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like you, when all this boys playing in girls sports started popping up I was totally against it.

but I've changed my mind on this.

thanks for pointing out the "girl power" preaching team.......because girls/women want to invade MEN's activities.....but don't want men/boys in theirs. I could point out numerous examples, like females invading the boy scouts, telling us "we can do anything you can do" blah blah blah.

does anyone else here feel the same? that its time to say FINE....we are all equal now.....lets see what the females can do vs the males in the same setting. fair is fair right?
 

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with all the fighting to allow girls to play on boys sport teams, it is only fair that boys are allowed on girls teams.
Don't get me wrong, Im not a fan of this, but if you are to allow one you need to allow the other.
not sure those fighting to allow the girls on the team thought of this
 

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haven't seen it yet (both my girls play club soccer) but I am starting to hear about it.
 

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There are leagues where boys and girls play together, theyre called co-ed.

As long as the parents allow this shit to happen, it will continue to happen. The girls also need to band together and only participate if it is girls against girls. Its only fun to play if you are playing on a semi level playing field. Anyone saying that boys dont have a significant physical competitive advantage over girls is a liar or an idiot, or both.

I dont have kids, but man do I feel for parents of young kids these past few years. Between the covid and school debacle, forced gender confusion, and now the deterioration of girls rights In sports that many fought so hard to obtain, its a wonder how parents arent loosing their shit on people daily.
 

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I disagree with it to but Just playing devils advocate- Could it be an enrollment issue?

I have 2 daughters that platy softball and I know locally where I live enrollment was way down- I am sure do to covid and all of the fear porn. They barely had enough 6U players and didn't have enough coaches... and because of that I know of 2 girls that ended up playing baseball.
 

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I disagree with it to but Just playing devils advocate- Could it be an enrollment issue?

I have 2 daughters that platy softball and I know locally where I live enrollment was way down- I am sure do to covid and all of the fear porn. They barely had enough 6U players and didn't have enough coaches... and because of that I know of 2 girls that ended up playing baseball.

I think that is a different situation. OP stated all girls club, but had boys in it. Im in no way against mixed sex sports, if that is what all participants want. For your situation, the alternative to mixed sex sports is no sports, so i think in that case, all parties agree it is better than not playing at all.
 

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As said above, Co-ed is a choice and I also agree up to 10 ish who cares really due to general physical equality but there should still be a choice. Everything should be a choice and not forced into what someone else thinks is right. I also understand that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander and if women want to invade the men’s world that a man has the same option but where does it end? When is too much too much? The point of demarcation in so many areas in today’s society has become fuzzy and faint if at all and it’s frustrating on many levels. Least to me it is. My view is only regarding sports in multiple facets like where a lil girl who wants to play sports with other lil girls is her choice. Not with boys and vice versa. Equal opportunity in the workplace is completely diff. There it should be the best person for the job no matter what the requirements. Workplace competition is a diff animal. In my past professional life i knew women that could work circles around some of the whiny lil bitches that used to work for me.
 

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Growing up our daughter played soccer, it was a girls club team. Anytime they were getting ready for State Cup or a big tournament, they would scrimmage a boys team a few years younger…they always lost.

The girls had better skills but the boys were just too fast, even at 12 year old.
 

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As said above, Co-ed is a choice and I also agree up to 10 ish who cares really due to general physical equality but there should still be a choice. Everything should be a choice and not forced into what someone else thinks is right. I also understand that what’s good for the goose is good for the gander and if women want to invade the men’s world that a man has the same option but where does it end? When is too much too much? The point of demarcation in so many areas in today’s society has become fuzzy and faint if at all and it’s frustrating on many levels. Least to me it is. My view is only regarding sports in multiple facets like where a lil girl who wants to play sports with other lil girls is her choice. Not with boys and vice versa. Equal opportunity in the workplace is completely diff. There it should be the best person for the job no matter what the requirements. Workplace competition is a diff animal. In my past professional life i knew women that could work circles around some of the whiny lil bitches that used to work for me.
those whiny little bitches were probably the boys that played on the girls teams..........
 

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If I wanted my daughter to play with boys, I'd find a co-ed league. That said, our City youth league has Boys teams and Girls team. Not Boys and Girls play together teams. Because of this crazy movement where (my boy identifies as a girl) we are now seeing parents signing their boys up to play on the girls team and apparently the league is allowing it.

I for one believe that if it was anything other than a co-ed league, a child's gender at birth should dictate what team they participate. I think that it's complete BS that boys / men that are stronger, bigger, faster, etc. are competing against girls / women as they identify as a female. How would you feel if your daughter were to get injured by the stronger, faster male on the field. Or have a record taken from her, or scholarship?

There's a BIG difference between a girl playing on a boys team. If a girl somehow gets onto a boys team, she must be willing to assume the risk of injury and likely getting beat by the stronger, faster boys / men.
 

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Growing up our daughter played soccer, it was a girls club team. Anytime they were getting ready for State Cup or a big tournament, they would scrimmage a boys team a few years younger…they always lost.

The girls had better skills but the boys were just too fast, even at 12 year old.
A couple of years ago the Dallas boys U15 team beat the US womens World Cup team 5-2…
 

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I am sitting here at Dignity Health Sports Park (old Stubhub Center) at an elite soccer camp put on by LA Galaxy. Both my 14 year old son (GK) and 11 year old daughter (CD) are at this camp. Yes, boys are playing against girls and girls are playing against boys. No big f’n deal. The way I see it is if you want to compete and get better, you play against the best, whichever gender that is. Shit will figure itself out.

If you want your daughter to get better at soccer, for Pete’s sake take her out of the City Rec League and put her in club soccer. She’ll develop faster and not pick up bad kickball habits.
 

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I am sitting here at Dignity Health Sports Park (old Stubhub Center) at an elite soccer camp put on by LA Galaxy. Both my 14 year old son (GK) and 11 year old daughter (CD) are at this camp. Yes, boys are playing against girls and girls are playing against boys. No big f’n deal. The way I see it is if you want to compete and get better, you play against the best, whichever gender that is. Shit will figure itself out.

If you want your daughter to get better at soccer, for Pete’s sake take her out of the City Rec League and put her in club soccer. She’ll develop faster and not pick up bad kickball habits.
I have always believed that playing better players will always make you stronger and better. But I also believe that if I sign my daughter up for a girl specific league or camp, it should not include boys pretending to be girls. Are you okay with males playing on your daughters team, or on the oppositions team? Are you okay with males playing on women's teams and beating the females, taking records and scholarships? Practice and scrimmage is one thing, but when it comes to game time, men should play against men and women should play against women, unless otherwise specified.
 

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The problem, as I see it, isn't really in this age bracket, though it does start there.
With the whole Lia what's-his-name thing this year, well, that threw up some flags around our house.

My wife went to school on an athletic scholarship...yes, as a "female". Now, my happy ass didn't make the cut to get a scholarship as a male. My times in high school were on par with what's-his-name. So, that being the case, some tape and a one piece suit, and I could have had someone else's scholarship.

Someone like my wife, that had put in 6 hours a day for over a decade, would not have been given their chance. Practicing or working out with a stronger opponent will train you to be a better athlete, no question about it. Competing with the opposite sex though? Not anywhere near the "equality" they say they strive for.
 

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I haven't really paid attention lately as my kids play in college and HS. But, I will tell you I would never ever put my boy in a girls sport. Ever
At a really young age I don't think there's a huge difference but boys are inherently more aggressive. I still don't like putting boys in girls sports though.
 

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At 8, YGTBFKM... That's happened for years. We had girls on our LL team 40 years ago, so it isn't new.

Our local rec league soccer club will combine boys and girls through U10, after that it is no longer coed.
 

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Sorry guys I was guilty. As a young teen I enjoyed playing with girls. But it was not in organized sports if you know what I am saying……now as far as organized sports I don’t think that is right.
 

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I personnaly dont get it, why do (fill in the blank) want to play with the opposite sex :confused::confused: Unless its for ulterior motives, then I get it, but still comeonman, thats just sick
NSF
 

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They’re 8 lol. Don’t think it matters at this point.

My niece is an absolute badass in flag football. And she’s only one of a handful of girls in the league.

After puberty yes it matters
well said !
 

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There’s a huge difference between recreational sports and club sports.

I don’t see a problem with coed until the age in which the boys and girls become physically different.

My daughter played coed T-Ball and a few other coed sports. It was no big deal whatsoever.

Club soccer is a whole different deal. Very competitive.

In our family, we knew that there would never be a coed sports team while she was in high school. Why? We sent our daughter to an ALL girls high school. Xavier College Preparatory in Phoenix. (Btw, I highly recommend XCP to anyone in Phx. Brophy HS for your boys……. Best money we ever spent)

Now I need to brag as a proud parent……. My daughter’s high school team won the 5A State Championship in Soccer in both her Junior and Senior year. My daughter was the star of the show her Senior year. 2-0 win…… both goals were my daughters. She should of had a hat trick, but one shot bounced off the cross bar.

She went on to get a sports scholarship at U of A, then played Pro Womens Soccer. Now she teaches heart surgeons how to do robotic surgery. She runs the robot. Needless to say, we are very proud of her accomplishments.

Nothing wrong with coed while their young.
 
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