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The astronaut recited the Pledge of Allegiance, but left off the “Liberty and Justice for all” part. 🙈
 

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Friday at 3AM now i think?

This is just beyond embarrassing, the project has been going on for 13 years now with Boeing.

Around the same time that Boeing started working on this, SpaceX had only launched two Falcon 9 rockets. Yes that is right, just 2 launches of a falcon 9. Since then they are well past their 200th launch, not even mentioning any of the other way more incredible shit they have done than just 200 launches.

Just pathetic by comparison.
 

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Friday at 3am? Sounds like they don’t want any media attention.

I’m betting it doesn’t make it into space.
 

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Well it finally made it 👍

I didn't realize the Atlas class rockets date all the way back to the 1950s, they flew the Mercury capsules.
 

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A long time to wait for the plumber to arrive to fix the broken shitter!
 

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Now it appears they have to extend their stay on the ISS while they assess the magnitude of all the helium leaks..... 🤦‍♂️
 

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US govt. “Hello Elon, um we need a ride”. Elon, “Fuck you”. Should be how it goes The way they treat him.
Space X has a hundred rocket launches in the last year.
 

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US govt. “Hello Elon, um we need a ride”. Elon, “Fuck you”. Should be how it goes The way they treat him.
Space X has a hundred rocket launches in the last year.

I was going to say. They are hardly stranded. Space X will be there if need be. However, this Starliner mission is a test. The astronauts signed up to be test dummies. Godspeed.
 

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I was going to say. They are hardly stranded. Space X will be there if need be. However, this Starliner mission is a test. The astronauts signed up to be test dummies. Godspeed.
Really glad we got rid of the POS shuttle that broke down all the time
 

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Really glad we got rid of the POS shuttle that broke down all the time

Not sure if sarcasm, but the shuttle did okay. Space X has a far better casualty record though.
 

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Not sure if sarcasm, but the shuttle did okay. Space X has a far better casualty record though.
It's sacarsim. Dumbass obama cancels the program with nothing to replace it.
 

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Still stranded up there.

At this point i think they will be forced to send the Starliner home empty, and even then i give that 50/50 of successful re-entry/recovery. And send the astronauts home on a SpaceX Crew Dragon, talk about egg on the face..... 5.8 billion spent on this capsule....
 

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Still stranded up there.

At this point i think they will be forced to send the Starliner home empty, and even then i give that 50/50 of successful re-entry/recovery. And send the astronauts home on a SpaceX Crew Dragon, talk about egg on the face..... 5.8 billion spent on this capsule....
What’s worse is they’ll likely shut down Boeing’s program, so our tax money is completely wasted.
 

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Was thinking about this the other night. Imagine being on the ISS, and these Boeing people come knocking on the door. "Hey, can we pop in and have dinner with ya'll?"

Six weeks later, eating everything in the fridge, sleeping on the couch, using the shitter, it's like having in-laws you can't get out.
 

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Was thinking about this the other night. Imagine being on the ISS, and these Boeing people come knocking on the door. "Hey, can we pop in and have dinner with ya'll?"

Six weeks later, eating everything in the fridge, sleeping on the couch, using the shitter, it's like having in-laws you can't get out.
And think about how much it must suck for the two astronauts who are stuck, as well as their family members….especially when there was talk about attempting a re-entry. Oh, hell no!
 

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And think about how much it must suck for the two astronauts who are stuck, as well as their family members….especially when there was talk about attempting a re-entry. Oh, hell no!

Not a fucking chance i would have gotten on that thing in the first place. After this debacle, if you get in this thing and attempt reentry you are a moron.

As the astronaut you have obviously trusted these guys to be competent this whole time leading up to launch, and you were wrong. They were not competent, but now you are supposed to trust them? Yeah fuckin right
 

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Not a fucking chance i would have gotten on that thing in the first place. After this debacle, if you get in this thing and attempt reentry you are a moron.

As the astronaut you have obviously trusted these guys to be competent this whole time leading up to launch, and you were wrong. They were not competent, but now you are supposed to trust them? Yeah fuckin right
On the ISS, think they've been keeping up with the quality control issues with Boeing suits on the Hill? I also don't remember Boeing having to do the same destructive testing that SpaceX did, but I could have missed it.
 

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I'm no rocket surgeon, but I'm pretty sure Boeing has the stranded guys' measurements. Send them over and let Elon's tailor make up some suits and send them up on the rescue capsule. Doesn't sound too difficult, right?
 

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I'm no rocket surgeon, but I'm pretty sure Boeing has the stranded guys' measurements. Send them over and let Elon's tailor make up some suits and send them up on the rescue capsule. Doesn't sound too difficult, right?
They are taller now that they have been in zero gravity for a few months 🤣
 

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I'm no rocket surgeon, but I'm pretty sure Boeing has the stranded guys' measurements. Send them over and let Elon's tailor make up some suits and send them up on the rescue capsule. Doesn't sound too difficult, right?
Space X suits are a Million$ a copy. They did not say what the lead time is to build them.
 

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Space X suits are a Million$ a copy. They did not say what the lead time is to build them.
Millions for the suits, I'm guessing still pales in comparison for an unscheduled flight. Hell, last minute flights on a Boeing 737 are pricey enough...and that may come apart 😂 The lead time is something I'm not sure of though...but putting a rush on it probably bumps the price.

Send the bill to Boeing, they messed up.
 

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I'm no rocket surgeon, but I'm pretty sure Boeing has the stranded guys' measurements. Send them over and let Elon's tailor make up some suits and send them up on the rescue capsule. Doesn't sound too difficult, right?
This suit difference is based on both type and standards. Boeing is using the NASA design, self-contained suit, that carries it's own back pack air supply. The Space-X suits are dependent on receiving backup air from a hose connected to the Dragon craft.
As I understand it, if the Boeing Astronauts use the NASA suits. Those NASA design suits aren't compatible with the seats and won't connect to the Dragon reserve air supply system so they'll be reliant on the cabin pressurization and in the event of a pressurization failure, they won't have a backup air supply.
The Russian Cosmonaut's suits are also incompatible with the Dragon capsules.
 

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So let me get this straight: Boeing, with all of today's technology and billions of dollars in government contracts, has taken over 14 years to barely get a spacecraft into low Earth orbit—and now, they can’t even ensure a safe return for the crew, leaving them stranded up there.

Yet, more than 60 years ago, NASA managed to not only send humans to the moon but also return them safely. And they did this *six times* within just 8 years of the project starting. And not just with minimal equipment—astronauts took go karts, conducted extensive scientific experiments, and even had time for golf on the lunar surface! This happened in an era where computers had less power than today's calculators. How is it that a program in the 1960s, with far fewer resources, managed to accomplish so much more, so much faster and with far great success?
 

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So let me get this straight: Boeing, with all of today's technology and billions of dollars in government contracts, has taken over 14 years to barely get a spacecraft into low Earth orbit—and now, they can’t even ensure a safe return for the crew, leaving them stranded up there.

Yet, more than 60 years ago, NASA managed to not only send humans to the moon but also return them safely. And they did this *six times* within just 8 years of the project starting. And not just with minimal equipment—astronauts took go karts, conducted extensive scientific experiments, and even had time for golf on the lunar surface! This happened in an era where computers had less power than today's calculators. How is it that a program in the 1960s, with far fewer resources, managed to accomplish so much more, so much faster and with far great success?
The greatest generation 😉
 

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This suit difference is based on both type and standards. Boeing is using the NASA design, self-contained suit, that carries it's own back pack air supply. The Space-X suits are dependent on receiving backup air from a hose connected to the Dragon craft.
As I understand it, if the Boeing Astronauts use the NASA suits. Those NASA design suits aren't compatible with the seats and won't connect to the Dragon reserve air supply system so they'll be reliant on the cabin pressurization and in the event of a pressurization failure, they won't have a backup air supply.
The Russian Cosmonaut's suits are also incompatible with the Dragon capsules.
Just heard this evening that SpaceX is going to launch and do their own space walk this coming week...trying new suits. Also heard on the radio that NASA is saying the Boeing guys will be on the ISS until February :oops:
 

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So let me get this straight: Boeing, with all of today's technology and billions of dollars in government contracts, has taken over 14 years to barely get a spacecraft into low Earth orbit—and now, they can’t even ensure a safe return for the crew, leaving them stranded up there.

Yet, more than 60 years ago, NASA managed to not only send humans to the moon but also return them safely. And they did this *six times* within just 8 years of the project starting. And not just with minimal equipment—astronauts took go karts, conducted extensive scientific experiments, and even had time for golf on the lunar surface! This happened in an era where computers had less power than today's calculators. How is it that a program in the 1960s, with far fewer resources, managed to accomplish so much more, so much faster and with far great success?

The Apollo program was a national goal with essentially an unlimited budget, and we still managed to kill half-a-dozen astronauts along the way, and came very close to killing another 5 or 6.

The US doesn't have that kind of will or risk tolerance any longer. For NASA it has to be 100% safe or nothing. Because the NASA brass knows that if Willmore and Williams were to perish on the return flight in the Starliner, NASA will cease to exist. From what I have read, according to Boeing, the Starliner is sufficiently safe to bring its crew home but NASA is throwing the challenge flag. My guess is NASA and Boeing will bring the spacecraft back unmanned.

What is surprising to me about all of this is there is no apparent way to quickly exfiltrate the astronauts off the ISS. I wouldn't expect a hot rocket sitting standby but I would have thought there would be a way to get help that doesn't take 9 months either.
 
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