Blown Spectra 20 V Drive

[78Southwind]

I am thinking about putting up the Spectra 20' for sale. But I am wondering what it's worth. So what do you guys think it's worth? I went completely through the boat to make sure everything was right and safe. I also did some upgrades and improvements.

The engine was originally built by Dan Douglas of GS Marine, Jim Lange freshened up the engine in 2008. The engine was dynoed at Westec in 2002 and it made a little over 900 HP with 5.3 PSI. It was then dynoed again in 2004 and it made 989 HP at 6.5 PSI.

The engine currently only has testing time on it. Lew Larson freshened up the engine for me and had it changed from external balance on the rear and internal balance on the front to all internal balance. It was balanced with three spare pistons so if the engine ever needs a new piston there are three available. The static compression is currently 8.4 to 1 with a final/effective compression of 12.4 (with a bottom pulley of 5.8" and a top pulley of 5.9"). This set-up is about 7 PSI. I also have a 5.2" pulley that will make it more pump gas friendly with a final/effective compression of 11.3. This set-up is about 5 PSI.

Here's a list of some of the engine parts.

Merlin ll CNC Block 572: 4.500" bore x 4.500" stroke, New Straub Cam, recently rebuilt 1250 Garry Williams Carbs, 1071 Blower The Blower Shop, Top Pulley for Blower - 5.9" diameter. Bottom Pulley for Blower - 5.7" diameter, 16 Rib Belt, New Pro Race Balancer, New Meziere Flexplate, Teague Supper Chiller, Dart Aluminum 355 CNC Heads 121 cc, New Cloyes Hex-A-Just Timing Set, Manley Severe Duty Valves, Dooley Oil Pan, JE Custom Blower Pistons, Manley H Beam Rods, Crane Cam and Roller Lifters, Crower Roller Rockers, Crower Crank 4340 Billet BB Chevy 4.500 Stroke. Lightning BB Chevy Big Tube Headers 2-1/4" Primaries, Mallory Comp Filter High Efficiency 500 Series Fuel Filter, Mallory Comp Pump Series 140 Electric Fuel Pump, Jabsco Marine Water Pump, Imco Water Pump Bracket, recently rebuilt Mallory Marine alternator, MSD 6M-2 Marine Ignition Control, MSD Rev Limiter #6,400, Tilton Starter New MSD Ignition Coil, MSD Marine Pro-Billet Distributor. Bronze lifter bore sleeves.

The heads where resurface .003. The intake was resurfaced. The block was decked .006 and we had the o-rings taken out of the block. JMS Racing did the machine work and the valve job.

Jim Lange re-rigged the boat at the end of 2007. Greg had the bottom done in 2009 and he added new tanks, floors, bulkhead and seats in 2011. The blower was also rebuilt in 2011. Here's a list of some of the rigging information.

Menkens prop 11 1/2 x 16, Imco tanks, Mech. Cav assembly with override, Custom rails and motor mounts, Custom drop through strut, Custom strut supports and brackets Custom rudder from Racey, A-22 Propshaft, Turbo 400 Transmission, Calgo steering system with 9" Post, Casale 12* V-Drive with 37% gears.

This is some of the recent work I had done on the Spectra.

Rebuilt Turbo 400 they used Raybestos Red Clutches and installed a TCI Valve Body with Reverse Order Shift Pattern: Park-Reverse-Neutral-First-Second-Third, Hughes Performance Direct Drive, Crankshaft Mag and Micro-Polish, Internally Balanced, Mallory Metal 1" x 1.2" (2), Mallory Metal 7/8" x 1.2", Mallory Metal 7/8" x 1", Machine Keyway 1/4 180* from stock, Rod Resized, Rods R&R Bushing Pin Fit, Rods Bore & Bushings, Manley Bushings, Rods Machined, Main Bearings, Rod Bearings, Race Set ft. cov Rear Main Seal, Cloyes Hex-A-Just Timing Set, Intake Gasket, Pan Gasket, Heads checked and cleaned up, Felpro Head Gaskets, Rebuilt the Carbs, SLP Rings, Spark Plugs, Exhaust Gaskets, Blower Gasket, Tilton Starter, Pro Race Balancer, Meziere Flexplate, MSD Cap & Plug Wires, MSD High Vibration Coil New Trailer Tires Carlisle Radial Trail RH

Scott Schatz / S&S Performance and Marine inspected the boat for safety, checked the shaft for proper alignment, added a safety collar to the rudder, blended the bottom, added speed coat, had the transmission rebuilt, installed the transmission, tuned the engine, and built a Blast Plate for the boat. And overall moral support.

The trailer was gone through by Arrow Trailer. The rear axle was replaced with idler hubs and all bearings were all serviced.

I am probably forgetting somethings but here is a link to the rebuild thread. http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?147388-75-Spectra-V-Drive-with-a-Bad-Blown-572

 

[FrznJim]

My experience is it is worth about half what you put into it. Wish I was kidding...

 

[460]

I'll never forget the ride Greg gave me before he passed. That boat pulled so god damn hard it wasn't even funny.

 

[RiverDave]

Hard to say without complete pics of the boat trailer etc. I have seen nice blower motor / turbo spectra's go as high as 33.. And as low as 13.

What kind of shape is the hull in? Stress cracks? Floor looks new? But lacking an interior? What's in there now?

 

[78Southwind]

My experience is it is worth about half what you put into it. Wish I was kidding...

You won't believe the money Greg had in it. I am sure Danny had crazy money in the engine when he had it built. I got it for a good deal but I put more in it than I purchased it for.

 

[78Southwind]

I'll never forget the ride Greg gave me before he passed. That boat pulled so god damn hard it wasn't even funny.

We haven't had it to the wood yet. But we have had it knocking on 90's door and it pulls something fierce. I am out of commission right now but if the stars all align I am going to have Scott Schatz drive it so we can GPS it.

 

[78Southwind]

Hard to say without complete pics of the boat trailer etc. I have seen nice blower motor / turbo spectra's go as high as 33.. And as low as 13.

What kind of shape is the hull in? Stress cracks? Floor looks new? But lacking an interior? What's in there now?

There's no new hours on it except for testing. So the hull is in the same shape as it was when I bought it with the light checking on the deck. The trailer is in the same shape except for the repairs that I mentioned. The changes were primarily in getting the boat back in shape (it was in pieces and not running) and improving on the safety, rigging and reliability of the engine. I could go on and on but most of it is in the rebuild thread. The next step is interior. The front buckets where built by West Coast Interiors a couple of years before I bought the boat so I am either going to match it with rear buckets or do a rear bench. I have an appointment with Danny at West Coast Interiors in June.

 

[Deangang]

The boat is worth what someone will pay for it Unfortunately we all have way more into these old boats then we can ever get for them , but we all keep doing it:thumbsup

 

[78Southwind]

The boat is worth what someone will pay for it Unfortunately we all have way more into these old boats then we can ever get for them , but we all keep doing it:thumbsup

I hear ya. But I am just looking for some honest opinions from those that know about V-Drive Cruisers. I can take the truth.

 

[RiverDave]

I hear ya. But I am just looking for some honest opinions from those that know about V-Drive Cruisers. I can take the truth.

20 would be all the money with a more realistic value of 17-18.. 15 if you are in a hurry.

That would be my guess as it sits..

 

[78Southwind]

20 would be all the money with a more realistic value of 17-18.. 15 if you are in a hurry.

That would be my guess as it sits..

Thanks for your opinion Dave. I could be wrong but I would think a fresh 572 with a 10-71 blower making in the 1,000 HP range would be worth $18,000 to $20,000. Adding the hull back into it is the hard part for me. If I remember right Greg bought the engine from Danny in 2007 for $16,000 but it needed to be rebuilt.

 

[Riverbound]

Thanks for your opinion Dave. I could be wrong but I would think a fresh 572 with a 10-71 blower making in the 1,000 HP range would be worth $18,000 to $20,000. Adding the hull back into it is the hard part for me. If I remember right Greg bought the engine from Danny in 2007 for $16,000 but it needed to be rebuilt.

Hate to say it but RD is pretty spot on with his price as far as what market value is.

 

[RiverDave]

Thanks for your opinion Dave. I could be wrong but I would think a fresh 572 with a 10-71 blower making in the 1,000 HP range would be worth $18,000 to $20,000. Adding the hull back into it is the hard part for me. If I remember right Greg bought the engine from Danny in 2007 for $16,000 but it needed to be rebuilt.

Well my only advice would be to look around and what things are being advertised for and if you can try to find out what they are actually selling for.

It's disappointing what things go for, especially after all the hard work that goes into them sometimes.

 

[Abc123]

Selling the boat and getting into running?

 

[78Southwind]

Selling the boat and getting into running?

Yore my inspiration. BTW...all that are interested Dennis and I are starting a new website called runningwithdennis.com:rolleyes

 

[Abc123]

Yore my inspiration. BTW...all that are interested Dennis and I are starting a new website called runningwithdennis.com:rolleyes

LOL

Hey chicks dig running too. This is one of my running mates. :thumbsup

 

[78Southwind]

Well my only advice would be to look around and what things are being advertised for and if you can try to find out what they are actually selling for.

It's disappointing what things go for, especially after all the hard work that goes into them sometimes.

The only thing that I have seen recently that maybe comparable is the Short Bus coming back to Cali. I would imagine that it would have sold for more if it was in Cali. But there has to be $7000 to $8,000 in getting that back to Cali.

BTW do you have any pictures or a thread of the Spectra that sold for $33,000? I would really enjoy seeing what was done to it.

 

[RiverDave]

The only thing that I have seen recently that maybe comparable is the Short Bus coming back to Cali. I would imagine that it would have sold for more if it was in Cali. But there has to be $7000 to $8,000 in getting that back to Cali.

BTW do you have any pictures or a thread of the Spectra that sold for $33,000? I would really enjoy seeing what was done to it.

I'll see if I can dig some of the old ones up.. I'm uploading photo's right now, and writing some articles so it won't be until later, but I'll spend some time.


RD

 

[SBMech]

I see it like this :

You've got 20-25k into the motor.

You've probably spent 3-5k on getting the rigging and the strut issues dealt with.

The boat alone is worth 3-5k rigged without a motor.

I would not feel bad about asking 30k for it. Especially if you can get it GPS'd at 100+...that goes a long ways for a lot of people.

My opinion is that you will probably end up taking 20-25k for it in the end, unless you find that right buyer.

Hard to not take a bath when you play with big toys and money.

If you are desperate to sell, then it's whatever you are willing to go down to.

If I did not need the money, I'd probably just wait for the right guy who wants something finished you can just fill up and run.:thumbsup

 

[78Southwind]

I see it like this :

You've got 20-25k into the motor.

You've probably spent 3-5k on getting the rigging and the strut issues dealt with.

The boat alone is worth 3-5k rigged without a motor.

I would not feel bad about asking 30k for it. Especially if you can get it GPS'd at 100+...that goes a long ways for a lot of people.

My opinion is that you will probably end up taking 20-25k for it in the end, unless you find that right buyer.

Hard to not take a bath when you play with big toys and money.

If you are desperate to sell, then it's whatever you are willing to go down to.

If I did not need the money, I'd probably just wait for the right guy who wants something finished you can just fill up and run.:thumbsup

I have receipts from Hi Tech Marine (Jim Lange) who rebuilt the engine and rigged the Spectra from a Ski boat to what it is now for over $28,000. The engine was $16,000 and needed to be rebuilt. The buckets from West Coast Marine Interiors were around $800. The IMCO tanks were over $1,000 plus the polishing and the powder coating. Greg rebuilt the floors and bulkhead. With just the receipts I have, Greg had well over $46,000 into the boat to get it were it is and that's not including the price of the original boat. I just had to finish and improve on the things he wanted to finish but didn't because he was to busy driving it. I am not trying to make money off the boat that is not my intention but if I could come close to a breaking even and make someone else happy at the same time that would be nice. The boat is bad ass and if things were different in my life right now I wouldn't even think about selling it. If I decide to sell the boat it won't be a firesale and if it doesn't sell then I will continue to improve it.

 

[idk]

Something to think about a bad ass Rayson Craft just sold and it was listed for 29 and not sure what the final price was but you don't get much better than a Rayson Craft. Just something to think about.

 

[nrbr]

Just for comparison I wouldn't take a dime less then 25k for mine. It's in the spectra section.

 

[78Southwind]

Something to think about a bad ass Rayson Craft just sold and it was listed for 29 and not sure what the final price was but you don't get much better than a Rayson Craft. Just something to think about.

I saw it and it was a bargain for sure.

 

[Sawtooth]

I feel your pain on what you have invested cost wise not including the sweat equity, I tried listing my Dads 28' Campbell here and was told it was worth half what I was asking. The two brand new motors, new interior, and new custom trailer were worth way more than that alone. He had over 6 figures in the rebuild and did 80% of the work himself. I don't know what to tell you other than be prepared to take considerably less than your gut tells you or sit on it till you get closer to the price you desire. Either way good luck.

 

[RiverDave]

I feel your pain on what you have invested cost wise not including the sweat equity, I tried listing my Dads 28' Campbell here and was told it was worth half what I was asking. The two brand new motors, new interior, and new custom trailer were worth way more than that alone. He had over 6 figures in the rebuild and did 80% of the work himself. I don't know what to tell you other than be prepared to take considerably less than your gut tells you or sit on it till you get closer to the price you desire. Either way good luck.

Values are values, it isn't going to be just here, it's going to be everywhere. .

Not sure I ever did see your classified ad? I always did wonder how the boat turned out?

 

[78Southwind]

I'll see if I can dig some of the old ones up.. I'm uploading photo's right now, and writing some articles so it won't be until later, but I'll spend some time.


RD

Right now would be a good time......:thumbsup

 

[n2otoofast4u]

Something to think about a bad ass Rayson Craft just sold and it was listed for 29 and not sure what the final price was but you don't get much better than a Rayson Craft. Just something to think about.

25k...... it likes it's new home here in Oregon.

 

[SBMech]

Something to think about a bad ass Rayson Craft just sold and it was listed for 29 and not sure what the final price was but you don't get much better than a Rayson Craft. Just something to think about.

Apples to Oranges.

Spectra has a documented blown 572, done by a reputable professional making 900+ HP on pump gas dyno'd, could easily make 1100 on good race fuel.

Rigging done by a known professional.

The Rayson Craft that sold was a 470 (468?) done with high quality parts, probably makes 700-800 HP.

Not saying at all that it's not a bitchen boat, it is very nice, but as far as value, stuff done by pros with receipts goes further for me.

Lets just say that I've seen A LOT of home grown engines/vehicles that were really pretty but did not live very long, in 80% of the cases they were not assembled correctly, causing early failure.

I am not saying at ALL that the Rayson Craft is one of those, just that I tend to trust Professionals with my money.

 

[River Lynchmob]

Apples to Oranges.

Spectra has a documented blown 572, done by a reputable professional making 900+ HP on pump gas dyno'd, could easily make 1100 on good race fuel.

Rigging done by a known professional.

The Rayson Craft that sold was a 470 (468?) done with high quality parts, probably makes 700-800 HP.

Not saying at all that it's not a bitchen boat, it is very nice, but as far as value, stuff done by pros with receipts goes further for me.

Lets just say that I've seen A LOT of home grown engines/vehicles that were really pretty but did not live very long, in 80% of the cases they were not assembled correctly, causing early failure.

I am not saying at ALL that the Rayson Craft is one of those, just that I tend to trust Professionals with my money.

There is a Hallett Vector that is for sale right now that was rigged by Brummett with a TT 540 and a #3A drive hooked to a B & M 2 speed on a dead ass perfect triple axle trailer also built by Brummett. The boat runs into the teens by a ways. There is not a mark on the boat and I will say there is probably not a nicer Vector in existence and he is having a hard time getting $35k for it.

A toy is worth what someone will pay you for it. All that said I think Dave is right on with his estimate of $20k

 

[SBMech]

I agree, shit is worth what you can get for it.

I guess my issue with the way everyone is pricing it is this :

When it sold, in pieces, for 13.5k everyone agreed that it was a steal...

Check out the rebuild thread: http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?147388-75-Spectra-V-Drive-with-a-Bad-Blown-572

After this complete refresh, fixing all the prop issues, going through the entire drive train, installing a proper blast plate, and completely going through the engine again....

It's worth 15-20k?

Someone is smoking some good shit, or there are alot of haters on this board.

I just think it's worth around double what you are pricing it at.

 

[oldschool]

I'll hit you with another cliche, "There's an ass for every seat". If you aren't in a hurry to sell, list what you think the price should be and see what happens. It's a very small audience for a boat like this, but you just need one buyer. You need to find someone looking for this type of boat and realizes the value in it. Easier said then done, but you don't know unless you try.

 

[milkmoney]

Hate to see ya sell it Jerry. I understand why u r. Hopefully someone gets and runs it as hard as Greg did.

That crazy sumbitch. I bet him and Carl are laughing about the river times. [emoji106]

 

[78Southwind]

There is a Hallett Vector that is for sale right now that was rigged by Brummett with a TT 540 and a #3A drive hooked to a B & M 2 speed on a dead ass perfect triple axle trailer also built by Brummett. The boat runs into the teens by a ways. There is not a mark on the boat and I will say there is probably not a nicer Vector in existence and he is having a hard time getting $35k for it.

A toy is worth what someone will pay you for it. All that said I think Dave is right on with his estimate of $20k

Just curious is the boat listed on the boards? I don't really know about 3A drives but Danny said he broke a lot of drives with this engine.

 

[River Lynchmob]

Just curious is the boat listed on the boards? I don't really know about 3A drives but Danny said he broke a lot of drives with this engine.

He had bravo drives...this 3A is good for a ton of power...I have hammered that boat out of the hole and never a problem...has about 1100hp

 

[78Southwind]

He had bravo drives...this 3A is good for a ton of power...I have hammered that boat out of the hole and never a problem...has about 1100hp

Cool, is it listed on here?

 

[78Southwind]

I agree, shit is worth what you can get for it.

I guess my issue with the way everyone is pricing it is this :

When it sold, in pieces, for 13.5k everyone agreed that it was a steal...

Check out the rebuild thread: http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?147388-75-Spectra-V-Drive-with-a-Bad-Blown-572

After this complete refresh, fixing all the prop issues, going through the entire drive train, installing a proper blast plate, and completely going through the engine again....

It's worth 15-20k?

Someone is smoking some good shit, or there are alot of haters on this board.

I just think it's worth around double what you are pricing it at.

Pretty much took the words out of my mouth. What they are saying without actually saying it is that the parts are worth more than the total boat together. Gary told me that everyone that was interested in the Spectra before me was only interested in it to part it out. I was the only one that wanted to rebuild it and put it back together. Basically, if I decide to sell it to try to get close to my money out of it, then I am probably going to have to sell the engine and hull separate. I don't really want to do that.

 

[plaster dave]

I would call Maxedout marine and ask them what they would list it for because they are the pros around here.

 

[78Southwind]

I'll see if I can dig some of the old ones up.. I'm uploading photo's right now, and writing some articles so it won't be until later, but I'll spend some time.


RD

Any chance of getting this pictures?

 

[Racey]

I agree, shit is worth what you can get for it.

I guess my issue with the way everyone is pricing it is this :

When it sold, in pieces, for 13.5k everyone agreed that it was a steal...

Check out the rebuild thread: http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?147388-75-Spectra-V-Drive-with-a-Bad-Blown-572

After this complete refresh, fixing all the prop issues, going through the entire drive train, installing a proper blast plate, and completely going through the engine again....

It's worth 15-20k?

Someone is smoking some good shit, or there are alot of haters on this board.

I just think it's worth around double what you are pricing it at.

Yep, at the end of the day if he wants to sell it in a reasonable time period. I don't see that boat ever bringing close to 40k, in fact i would call it nothing short of a miracle. if it was a Schiada in immaculate condition that may be a different story. Spectras are nice boats, but not as desirable by a long shot.

And Lynch is correct, that Hallett Vector for sale was built by Brummett, all custom machined parts, absolute one off stuff that to build new today would probably be pushing into the neighborhood of a a quarter million with the motor..... and he's sitting on it for 35k..... And a vector is a way better performing, riding, and handling boat than a Spectra.... Not to mention also more desirable by the market as well.

It is what it is.

Unless it's Teague Custom Marine, Brummett, or Pfaff power, the used motor and receipts don't nearly carry weight..... Also just is what it is there.

You never ever, ever, ever, throw money into these things thinking it's an investment. They are liabilities period, you throw money in them because you want to enjoy them, to do otherwise is the same as dealing with a Nigerian prince.

 

[RiverDave]

Any chance of getting this pictures?

I'll look around today

 

[Sharp Shooter]

Unfortunately we all have way more into these old boats then we can ever get for them , but we all keep doing it:thumbsup

This is very true. They're a labor of love that could be as diagnosed a sickness. The return I get is in smiles per gallon.

 

[RiverDave]

I agree, shit is worth what you can get for it.

I guess my issue with the way everyone is pricing it is this :

When it sold, in pieces, for 13.5k everyone agreed that it was a steal...

Check out the rebuild thread: http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?147388-75-Spectra-V-Drive-with-a-Bad-Blown-572

After this complete refresh, fixing all the prop issues, going through the entire drive train, installing a proper blast plate, and completely going through the engine again....

It's worth 15-20k?

Someone is smoking some good shit, or there are alot of haters on this board.

I just think it's worth around double what you are pricing it at.

It's not a question of "haters" or anything of the sort. Lets say I want to build this boat. I go find a Spectra Hull that already has plate recesses. There's 2000-3000. Then I find a good trailer 2000.00 So I'm into it 4-5,000 already to start. When you put the two together they are still only worth 2500 bucks as a hull and a trailer.

The point was, to build the boat as a complete deal it was a good deal to have all the parts (especially since at the time it was assumed the motor was good). Because if you had to go buy it all individually it would cost a ridiculous amount of money. It's a big leg up to have it all in one package. That all said even after all the refreshing, etc.. Unfortunately in this particular case I'm not sure you can add that entire bill to the value of the boat. Generally the people that buy things like this are the types that like building / tinkering etc.. And they would've done a lot of the work themselves.. Then on top of that you have to figure "demand." There isn't a huge demand for a Spectra with that big of a motor etc.. If it's a cash deal, I'd part the motor and the boat and sell them separately. You'd probably get a little more out of it that way.

Any chance of getting this pictures?

I went looking a little earlier to see what is out there now before I started looking backwards to see what I can find.

Ironically ran across an old Spectra that I bought as a bare Hull from Old Rigger back in the day. I ended up selling it to a guy that had GS completely redo the whole boat, and then passed away shortly there after. The boat is for sale now.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1974-spectra-spectra-20-687309/

There's a couple on boat trader, but the only v-drive on there is about 10K over priced..

RD

 

[SBMech]

I don't think an even partially rigged 20 v-drive on a usable trailer is 2500. More like 5k for a full stringer year.

The reason you see more and more of these Spectras for what you think is overpriced is because a lot of them have been gone through, and had 2x their value put into them if not more.

Can you blame people for pricing them where ever they feel is appropriate?

Besides, not like there are nearly as many of them around cheap, I look all the time.

Stuff that even in 2013 was 5-7k is now 12-15. Not all of them worth it, but most.

I'm not arguing with you RD, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I respect yours, just giving mine

I think you forget RDP is where a lot of lurkers go to compare pricing, your opinions drive market value. Is it wrong for all of us to price things better when they are done nicely?

I know Spectras are no Schiada, but you love you some Spectra too I know. :thumbsup

 

[78Southwind]

It's not a question of "haters" it's a question or anything of the sort. Lets say I want to build this boat. I go find a Spectra Hull that already has plate recesses. There's 2000-3000. Then I find a good trailer 2000.00 So I'm into it 4-5,000 already to start. When you put the two together they are still only worth 2500 bucks as a hull and a trailer.

The point was, to build the boat as a complete deal it was a good deal to have all the parts (especially since at the time it was assumed the motor was good). Because if you had to go buy it all individually it would cost a ridiculous amount of money. It's a big leg up to have it all in one package. That all said even after all the refreshing, etc.. Unfortunately in this particular case I'm not sure you can add that entire bill to the value of the boat. Generally the people that buy things like this are the types that like building / tinkering etc.. And they would've done a lot of the work themselves.. Then on top of that you have to figure "demand." There isn't a huge demand for a Spectra with that big of a motor etc.. If it's a cash deal, I'd part the motor and the boat and sell them separately. You'd probably get a little more out of it that way.



I went looking a little earlier to see what is out there now before I started looking backwards to see what I can find.

Ironically ran across an old Spectra that I bought as a bare Hull from Old Rigger back in the day. I ended up selling it to a guy that had GS completely redo the whole boat, and then passed away shortly there after. The boat is for sale now.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1974-spectra-spectra-20-687309/

There's a couple on boat trader, but the only v-drive on there is about 10K over priced..

RD

I don't think I would compare an unfinished stock jet boat with a 13 year old gel job to a high performance V-drive. (Are we even allowed to say jet boat on this site)?Though, I don't like the bimini top and the back to back bench seating but this boat is totally cool. It's listed for $24,995. It is priced high though. Maybe, I need to sell the Spectra through the Boat Brokers so I can get $36k for it.:eek

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1972-SPECTRA--102757499

 

[RiverDave]

I don't think an even partially rigged 20 v-drive on a usable trailer is 2500. More like 5k for a full stringer year.

The reason you see more and more of these Spectras for what you think is overpriced is because a lot of them have been gone through, and had 2x their value put into them if not more.

Can you blame people for pricing them where ever they feel is appropriate?

Besides, not like there are nearly as many of them around cheap, I look all the time.

Stuff that even in 2013 was 5-7k is now 12-15. Not all of them worth it, but most.

I'm not arguing with you RD, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I respect yours, just giving mine

I think you forget RDP is where a lot of lurkers go to compare pricing, your opinions drive market value. Is it wrong for all of us to price things better when they are done nicely?

I know Spectras are no Schiada, but you love you some Spectra too I know. :thumbsup

Well it certainly isn't my intention to drive values down on Spectra's.. Quite the opposite, I like the old school shit more then most of the new school shit! The 21's on Boat Trader right now I believe to be all original judging by the trailers / interiors etc..

Full Pull's Turbo 20 on here gives me wood.. I'd buy that boat in a heart beat if he wanted to sell it! One of my favorite boats on RDP.

I don't think I would compare an unfinished stock jet boat with a 13 year old gel job to a high performance V-drive. (Are we even allowed to say jet boat on this site)?Though, I don't like the bimini top and the back to back bench seating but this boat is totally cool. It's listed for $24,995. It is priced high though. Maybe, I need to sell the Spectra through the Boat Brokers so I can get $36k for it.:eek

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1972-SPECTRA--102757499
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That boat is a v-drive, and other then needing a buff job on the center of the deck is pretty clean. That's the one I felt would be in the 15'ish range?

 

[SBMech]

Full Pull's Turbo 20 on here gives me wood.. I'd buy that boat in a heart beat if he wanted to sell it! One of my favorite boats on RDP.

Fuck yes, that boat is super cool ! :thumbsup

Wish he would have posted back about what she ended up running like once he got the bugs worked out.

 

[78Southwind]

Well it certainly isn't my intention to drive values down on Spectra's.. Quite the opposite, I like the old school shit more then most of the new school shit! The 21's on Boat Trader right now I believe to be all original judging by the trailers / interiors etc..

Full Pull's Turbo 20 on here gives me wood.. I'd buy that boat in a heart beat if he wanted to sell it! One of my favorite boats on RDP.



That boat is a v-drive, and other then needing a buff job on the center of the deck is pretty clean. That's the one I felt would be in the 15'ish range?

I know it's a V-drive that's why I put the link up. I was commenting on the jet boat you put up earlier. I am still waiting for the pictures of the V-drive Spectra that you said sold for $33,000.

When I brought the engine over to get it rebuilt the engine builder told me that it would cost him over $35,000 to build this engine new without labor. Just to see if he was right, I listed all the parts when he pulled it a part. It equaled just under $40,000 once you add in labor. Used parts are somewhere between $.50 to $.60 on the dollar, that would put the engine at $20,000 to $24,000. Now I know the parts together don't equal a built engine but even at $18,000 to $20,000 a fresh engine is a bargain. The hull rigged right, with a good bottom has to be worth somewhere between $10,000 to $12,000. So on the low side I am thinking $27,000. I guess the worse thing that could happen is I get to drive the Spectra down the road.

1250 Gary Williams Carbs #4834 2500
1071 The Blower Shop built 2001/2010 Serial # 3401-10 TBS 2030 3000
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Bottom Pulley for Blower - 5.9" diameter TBS 8459 137
16 Rib Belt 67" ? TBS 8309 135
2V Accessory Pulley TBS 4230 109
BB Marine Idler Assembly TBS 4410 997
7.90" Billet Snout and Coupler TBS 4005 520
BB Manifold Polished TBS 2520 755
Dual 4500 Carb Adapter TBS 4305 165
Dual Inlet 4500 Fuel Line TBS 4375 295
Linkage Kit Dual Side TBS 4350 130
Valvoline/VR1 Racing engine oil SAE 50 ($6*10) 60
Terminal Block Style Marine Engine Wiring Harness 170
50 Amp Mercury Style Circuit Breaker* 50
Head Mount Ignition System Bracket 50
Single Bolt Coil Bracket* 13
Adjustable* Water Pressure Relief Valve 128-5002 90
Mark 4 BB OIL FILTER ADAPTOR Model: 210-22-580 130
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Melling High-Volume Oil Pump 100
Tee Brass Run 1/8" NPT Jegs 41364 8
Fuel Pump Safety Switch 7872 23
Main Reset Breaker 7.5 AMP 10530 10
Billett Timing Pointer 40
Timing Chain Cover 150
T-STAT KIT-SS CHEV BLWR -12 Eddie Marine Model: 106-74 132
CROSSOVER-BB CHEV -16 UP Eddie Marine Model: 106-32 165
Pro Race Balancer 74267 357
Meziere Flexplate MEZ-FP300 373
Teague Supper Chiller SCI 671-1471-12 1695
Dart Aluminum 355 CNC Heads 121 cc DRT-19574139 4540
ARP Pro Series Cylinder Head Stud Kit ARP-235-4703 250
Manley Severe Duty Valves 480
Merlin ll CNC Block 572: 4.500" bore x 4.500" stroke (10.188) WRL-081113 (1997) 3000
Dooley Oil Pan 811040 740
JE Custom Blower Pistons #131671 Job # 643523 960
JE Wrist Pins JEP-99029301851S 88
Oil Drain Pan Kit OIL-505 45
Straub Cam 4/7FO 281/303 adv .653/.618 108/1116 lc 112 lsa S99217 545
Manley H Beam Rods MAN-14066-8 634
Crane Roller Lifters CRN-13570-16 728
Crower Roller Rockers CRO-73605-16 511
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K&N Velocity Stack Air Cleaners (2) KNN-58-1210 250
Lightning BB Chevy Big Tube Headers 2-1/4" Primaries* 540371 3190
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Mallory Replacement Fuel Filter Elements 3141 MAA-3141 31
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Jabsco Marine Water Pump 43210-0001 726
Imco Water Pump Bracket 04-1380 146
Mallory Marine inboard and Sterndrive alternators MAA-9-19100 240
MSD 6M-2 Marine Ignition Control MSD-6460 296
Tilton Starter TIL-54-40001 383
MSD Blaster High Vibration Coil MSD-8222 59
MSD Marine Pro-Billet Distributor*with slip collar MSD-8562 300
MSD Marine HEI Terminal Window Cap MSD-8565 36
MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor Spark Plug Wire Sets MSD-35603 86
MSD Pro-Clamp Wire Separators MSD-8843 19
Install bronze lifter bore sleeves: 665
Eddie Marine Valve Covers Polished Model: 108-02P 231
Aluminum Breather Polished Model: 108-07 76
Hughes Performance Direct Drive GM PRO DD + 3/8 293
Sierra Cut Off Switch MP40970-1 20
Crankshaft Mag and Micro-Polish 40
Mallory Metal 1" x 1.2" (2) 80
Mallory Metal 7/8" x 1.2" 40
Mallory Metal 7/8" x 1" 38
Instal Mallory Metal 100
Balancing Bob Weight 2410.3 125
Machine Keyway 1/4 180* from stock 50
Rod Resized 90
Rods R&R Bushing Pin Fit 50
Rods Bore & Bushings Equal 1 Gram 60
Manley Bushings 50
Rods Labor Machine .010 per side (narrow) 50
Main Bearings CLE-MS-829H 104.95
Rod Bearings CLE-CB-7343HN 91.6
Race Set ft. cov Rear Main Seal 28.95
Cloyes Hex-A-Just Timing Set CLO-9-3110A 179
Intake Gasket .120" Thick MRG-122 23
Pan Gasket MRG-197 17.5
Fel Pro Head Gasket FEL-1047 91.94
Paint 7.5
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SLP Rings 154.6
Spark Plugs NGK-5238 24
Exhaust Gskets 25.6
Blower Gasket 20
Total $37,956.14

 

[78Southwind]

Well, I got a PM off of another board from a Ski Racer we will see what happens.

We are currently ski racing with the nwsra and we are looking for a competitive v-drive to compete with. would be very interested in speaking to you.

 

[RiverDave]

Hope it works out for you!

 

[78Southwind]

Hope it works out for you!

Thanks Dave,

Within 24 hours of listing it I got a PM from an interested party. Today, I took a deposit for the boat. I am pretty stoked it's a Ski Racer that is interested in this boat and it makes it worth it to me for all the hard work. We will see.