Black Americans warned: Democrats are not your friends!

[Wombat]

They are essentially brainwashed by liberals who have much to gain'.

It's a well-known fact that black people tend to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, but why? After all, the Democratic Party spent 100 years trying to prevent blacks from claiming their civil rights.

"What blacks especially do not know is that all the civil rights legislation from 1865 to 1965 was passed over the objections of the Democrats," declared Ben Kinchlow, founder of Americans for Israel and co-host of the weekly radio show, 'FrontPage Jerusalem.'

Appearing recently on the SonLife Broadcasting Network program "Frances & Friends," Kinchlow explained every civil-rights initiative during that period had been proposed and passed by Republicans. That included the Civil Rights Act of 1866, the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, the Civil Rights Act of 1875 and various bills in the first half of the 20th century. These laws passed in spite of Democrats, not because of them.

Even the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 owe their passage to Republicans, Kinchlow noted. It was the GOP that shepherded those historic pieces of legislation through Congress and forced them onto Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson's desk. Johnson took full advantage, thinking he could get blacks to vote Democrat for the next 200 years by signing those two acts into law.

Johnson's plan has worked for 50 years now, and Kinchlow believes black Americas vote for Democrats because they simply don't know their own history.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/black-am...ats-are-not-your-friends/#DzAHjwsbdrWRdIKj.99

 

[Skinny Tire AH]

They are essentially brainwashed by liberals who have much to gain'.

It's a well-known fact that black people tend to vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, but why? After all, the Democratic Party spent 100 years trying to prevent blacks from claiming their civil rights.

"What blacks especially do not know is that all the civil rights legislation from 1865 to 1965 was passed over the objections of the Democrats," declared Ben Kinchlow, founder of Americans for Israel and co-host of the weekly radio show, 'FrontPage Jerusalem.'

Appearing recently on the SonLife Broadcasting Network program "Frances & Friends," Kinchlow explained every civil-rights initiative during that period had been proposed and passed by Republicans. That included the Civil Rights Act of 1866, the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, the Civil Rights Act of 1875 and various bills in the first half of the 20th century. These laws passed in spite of Democrats, not because of them.

Even the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 owe their passage to Republicans, Kinchlow noted. It was the GOP that shepherded those historic pieces of legislation through Congress and forced them onto Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson's desk. Johnson took full advantage, thinking he could get blacks to vote Democrat for the next 200 years by signing those two acts into law.

Johnson's plan has worked for 50 years now, and Kinchlow believes black Americas vote for Democrats because they simply don't know their own history.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/black-am...ats-are-not-your-friends/#DzAHjwsbdrWRdIKj.99

But in true Democrat style, he didn't refer to them as "Blacks"

 

[was thatguy]

This should clear it up...

[video=youtube_https;wAeB_yl2E90]https://youtu.be/wAeB_yl2E90[/video]

 

[Tank]

What the fuck does any hand out recipient give a shit about history , education, bettering themselves, etc. when they're getting free shit to live. That's like asking them to bite the hand that feeds them because it's the same hand that abused them (150 years ago). Good luck.

 

[2CHILL]

There sure are a lot of experts on black people here. And also this:

While people at the very bottom of the income level vote Democratic, a majority of white people in the lower middle class (those earning from $30,000 to $50,000) vote Republican. Of the ten states with the lowest household median income in 2008, nine voted Republican.

Why should this be so? Based purely on self-interest, such lower wage earners should vote for the party that would help them the most economically. The Democrats favor a higher minimum wage, protection of union rights, generous, if not free, medical care programs for working class Americans, safety regulations for the working place, reducing global warning (which effects the health of everyone), higher taxes on rich people to pay for even more generous social programs, and maintaining if not increasing social security payments. Republicans, on the other hand, want to reduce taxes on the rich, restrict union rights, repeal Obamacare, privitize social security benefits (which could undermine the program’s reliability) and eliminate various regulations on business, including safety requirements and efforts to deal with global warming.

Of course, the Republicans argue that reducing taxes and regulations would help workers because the rich would increase their investments in new businesses and bolster the economy. That investment in turn would increase wages for everyone. The facts and economic theory does not bear this out. There are no trickle down benefits for the poorer, only sucking up benefits for the rich.

Over the past decades, almost all the gains in the growing economy went to the rich. Income for the middle 60% of the population grew by 40% from 1979 to 2011 , an average of 1.8% a year. On the other hand, the income of the top 1% in that same period grew over 200% , an average of over 9% each year. The ratio between CEO income and worker income rose from 30 to one in 1978 to 296 to one in 2013. The top 10% of the population received 32% of the nation’s total income in the 1960’s and 51% in 2014. In terms of wealth, the top 3% owned 44%of the total wealth of the nation in 1989, but this increased to 54% in 2013. The wealth of the bottom 90% fell from 33% of the total wealth in 1989 to 24% in 2013.

So why does the white, lower middle class, population continue to favor the Republicans despite the fact that the economic promises of the party have been shown to be bogus? Partly it is a cultural phenomenon. The Republican platform is against abortion and gay marriage and for gun rights, important issues for lower middle class whites. Various studies also show that Americans who attend church frequently are significantly more likely to be Republican and less likely to be Democratic. Only 25% of white Protestants who attend church once a week vote Democratic. And 61% of the religiously unaffiliated vote Democratic. These statistics suggest that ideology trumps self-interest.

There is a darker element to this division. Richard Hofstadter has referred to the “paranoid style in American politics.” He refers to the “animosities and passions of a small minority” who believe that mysterious conspiracies are threatening their lives. http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/ These ideas go back to the earliest days of the nation when the Masons were believed to have established a separate system of loyalty to their own group that interfered with loyalty to the nation. Then the Jesuits were thought to be center of an evil plot against American values.

The Know-Nothing party was formed in the 1850’s precisely to counter the influx of Catholics from Ireland and Italy whom the party accused of undermining the nativist values of the nation. One of the party’s newspapers complained: “America has become the sewer into which the pollutants of European jails ae emptied,” a statement that could be published today by Republican candidates for President, if one substituted “Mexican” for “European.”

This paranoid style in American politics is still alive today. We have a questioner of Donald Trump telling him that we have to get rid of all the Muslims in the United States. Almost all of the Republican candidates for President seem to support the idea - similar to the platform of the Know-Nothing party — that immigrants are the true source of evil in our society. They do not speak our language, take away our jobs, pollute our neighborhoods with their dirty ways, spread diseases, murder our children and rape our wives and daughters.

The Tea Party is the true successors of the Know Nothing Party. The origins of the name came when a correspondent on CNBC, Rick Santelli, complained about a government program to make payments to homeowners who could no longer make mortgage payments. He condemned the idea that the government would “subsidize the losers” and asked for a tea party to be formed to object to government social programs. So the “losers” the poor, the racial minorities, the immigrants, the 47% are the problem, not the owners and bosses who demand and receive the biggest cut of the pie and refuse to share their wealth with the middle class.

But all of this plays into Republican hands. Rather than accurately explain the true economic issues facing the middle class, they invent bogus tax plans that have no basis in reality — shrinking the tax code to three pages and reducing taxes to everyone (mostly those on top) which will somehow trim down the national debt and bring untold benefits to everyone. When these benefits do not emerge, Republican leaders barrage the lower middle class with attacks on the bad people (immigrants, Muslims) who do not look or talk like them and threaten their lives and jobs.

They play on the lower middle class’ impulse to believe themselves better than some other group which becomes the basis for their own self-esteem. The Republicans insist that the presence of Latino immigrants and Muslims are the reasons for the lower class’ dissatisfaction with their life. Such arguments divert the middle class from insisting on higher wages and better programs that will adversely affect the rich supporters of the Party.

The Democrats must counter this nonsense with concrete programs that would improve the lives of the lower middle class. Since family values count very much for this group, Democrats should emphasize how the social programs supported by them - health care, free college education - would improve the lives of their children. And they must counter the paranoia that is so much a part of the Republican program.
Leon Friedman is a Professor of Constitutional Law at the Maurice A. Deane School of Law at Hofstra University.

 

[wsuwrhr]

There sure are a lot of experts on black people here...

Feel free to dispute. I mean, since you were around in the 1800s.

 

[wsuwrhr]

That's a hell of an edit.

 

[brgrcru]

There sure are a lot of experts on black people here. And also this:

While people at the very bottom of the income level vote Democratic, a majority of white people in the lower middle class (those earning from $30,000 to $50,000) vote Republican. Of the ten states with the lowest household median income in 2008, nine voted Republican.

Why should this be so? Based purely on self-interest, such lower wage earners should vote for the party that would help them the most economically. The Democrats favor a higher minimum wage, protection of union rights, generous, if not free, medical care programs for working class Americans, safety regulations for the working place, reducing global warning (which effects the health of everyone), higher taxes on rich people to pay for even more generous social programs, and maintaining if not increasing social security payments. Republicans, on the other hand, want to reduce taxes on the rich, restrict union rights, repeal Obamacare, privitize social security benefits (which could undermine the program?s reliability) and eliminate various regulations on business, including safety requirements and efforts to deal with global warming.

Of course, the Republicans argue that reducing taxes and regulations would help workers because the rich would increase their investments in new businesses and bolster the economy. That investment in turn would increase wages for everyone. The facts and economic theory does not bear this out. There are no trickle down benefits for the poorer, only sucking up benefits for the rich.

Over the past decades, almost all the gains in the growing economy went to the rich. Income for the middle 60% of the population grew by 40% from 1979 to 2011 , an average of 1.8% a year. On the other hand, the income of the top 1% in that same period grew over 200% , an average of over 9% each year. The ratio between CEO income and worker income rose from 30 to one in 1978 to 296 to one in 2013. The top 10% of the population received 32% of the nation?s total income in the 1960?s and 51% in 2014. In terms of wealth, the top 3% owned 44%of the total wealth of the nation in 1989, but this increased to 54% in 2013. The wealth of the bottom 90% fell from 33% of the total wealth in 1989 to 24% in 2013.

So why does the white, lower middle class, population continue to favor the Republicans despite the fact that the economic promises of the party have been shown to be bogus? Partly it is a cultural phenomenon. The Republican platform is against abortion and gay marriage and for gun rights, important issues for lower middle class whites. Various studies also show that Americans who attend church frequently are significantly more likely to be Republican and less likely to be Democratic. Only 25% of white Protestants who attend church once a week vote Democratic. And 61% of the religiously unaffiliated vote Democratic. These statistics suggest that ideology trumps self-interest.

There is a darker element to this division. Richard Hofstadter has referred to the ?paranoid style in American politics.? He refers to the ?animosities and passions of a small minority? who believe that mysterious conspiracies are threatening their lives. http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/ These ideas go back to the earliest days of the nation when the Masons were believed to have established a separate system of loyalty to their own group that interfered with loyalty to the nation. Then the Jesuits were thought to be center of an evil plot against American values.

The Know-Nothing party was formed in the 1850?s precisely to counter the influx of Catholics from Ireland and Italy whom the party accused of undermining the nativist values of the nation. One of the party?s newspapers complained: ?America has become the sewer into which the pollutants of European jails ae emptied,? a statement that could be published today by Republican candidates for President, if one substituted ?Mexican? for ?European.?

This paranoid style in American politics is still alive today. We have a questioner of Donald Trump telling him that we have to get rid of all the Muslims in the United States. Almost all of the Republican candidates for President seem to support the idea - similar to the platform of the Know-Nothing party ? that immigrants are the true source of evil in our society. They do not speak our language, take away our jobs, pollute our neighborhoods with their dirty ways, spread diseases, murder our children and rape our wives and daughters.

The Tea Party is the true successors of the Know Nothing Party. The origins of the name came when a correspondent on CNBC, Rick Santelli, complained about a government program to make payments to homeowners who could no longer make mortgage payments. He condemned the idea that the government would ?subsidize the losers? and asked for a tea party to be formed to object to government social programs. So the ?losers? the poor, the racial minorities, the immigrants, the 47% are the problem, not the owners and bosses who demand and receive the biggest cut of the pie and refuse to share their wealth with the middle class.

But all of this plays into Republican hands. Rather than accurately explain the true economic issues facing the middle class, they invent bogus tax plans that have no basis in reality ? shrinking the tax code to three pages and reducing taxes to everyone (mostly those on top) which will somehow trim down the national debt and bring untold benefits to everyone. When these benefits do not emerge, Republican leaders barrage the lower middle class with attacks on the bad people (immigrants, Muslims) who do not look or talk like them and threaten their lives and jobs.

They play on the lower middle class? impulse to believe themselves better than some other group which becomes the basis for their own self-esteem. The Republicans insist that the presence of Latino immigrants and Muslims are the reasons for the lower class? dissatisfaction with their life. Such arguments divert the middle class from insisting on higher wages and better programs that will adversely affect the rich supporters of the Party.

The Democrats must counter this nonsense with concrete programs that would improve the lives of the lower middle class. Since family values count very much for this group, Democrats should emphasize how the social programs supported by them - health care, free college education - would improve the lives of their children. And they must counter the paranoia that is so much a part of the Republican program.
Leon Friedman is a Professor of Constitutional Law at the Maurice A. Deane School of Law at Hofstra University.

:fsakes what a bunch of BS !!

 

[was thatguy]

Feel free to dispute. I mean, since you were around in the 1800s.

I gotta hand it to chill, his tunnel vision crusade is unwavering.
Funny though, he thinks that skin color dictates ones expertise on race.
What is the word for that?? Oh yeah...RACIST.

 

[Gelcoater]

I've never been employed by a poor person.

 

[2CHILL]

I gotta hand it to chill, his tunnel vision crusade is unwavering.
Funny though, he thinks that skin color dictates ones expertise on race.
What is the word for that?? Oh yeah...RACIST.

No crusade, just offering a different point of view than the resident experts on this site. Yeah, I'm the racist here...

 

[was thatguy]

No crusade, just offering a different point of view than the resident experts on this site. Yeah, I'm the racist here...

Yes, you are.

You think that an entire race (whites) are conspiring against blacks on every imaginable stage.
You March out form fitting, selective evidence and present it as blanket examples to further your racist agenda.

Sadly, your very actions work against your stated goal, and promote what division does exist. No surprise though, it's exactly what this admin feverishly promotes also.

 

[Hullbilly]

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[Old Texan]

No crusade, just offering a different point of view than the resident experts on this site. Yeah, I'm the racist here...

If only you could offer your point of view rather than a typical posted C&P of some very slanted authors.

Just making your reply fit into a racially slanted viewpoint gives you your racial reputation. At times you may post from the heart as an individual, but your refusal to at least try to be a neutral person when throwing out slanted C&P's takes away from your message and position. Point is you post mainly from a defensive position not objectively. All posts by white folks are not racially motivated. It's information and opinions on how to help solve issues, not inflate them racially.......I just don't think you view things in that manner before your defenses rise and you more or less go into attack mode. Just saying

 

[Gelcoater]

If only you could offer your point of view rather than a typical posted C&P of some very slanted authors.

Just making your reply fit into a racially slanted viewpoint gives you your racial reputation. At times you may post from the heart as an individual, but your refusal to at least try to be a neutral person when throwing out slanted C&P's takes away from your message and position. Point is you post mainly from a defensive position not objectively. All posts by white folks are not racially motivated. It's information and opinions on how to help solve issues, not inflate them racially.......I just don't think you view things in that manner before your defenses rise and you more or less go into attack mode. Just saying

Here's a little C&P Chill might not want to read.Isnt history a bitch sometimes?

Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.

Civil rights in the '60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act.

 

[wsuwrhr]

I've never been employed by a poor person.

Truth.

 

[Bobby V]

I've never been employed by a poor person.

How many went BK.

 

[2CHILL]

Yes, you are.

You think that an entire race (whites) are conspiring against blacks on every imaginable stage.
You March out form fitting, selective evidence and present it as blanket examples to further your racist agenda.

Sadly, your very actions work against your stated goal, and promote what division does exist. No surprise though, it's exactly what this admin feverishly promotes also.

I don't think (and I've never suggested) that the entire white race is conspiring against blacks. Once institutions are in place, that's not necessary for racism to continue...

 

[Gelcoater]

How many went BK.

One.
Chapter 11,but they're still going.:thumbsup

 

[was thatguy]

I don't think (and I've never suggested) that the entire white race is conspiring against blacks. Once institutions are in place, that's not necessary for racism to continue...

What sort of institutions?

NAACP?
BETv?
Miss Black America?
Miss Black USA?
UNCF?
Black history month?
Black Panthers?
Black scholarships for HS students
Black scholarships for Women
"Historically" black colleges
Black only nightclubs

That's just a 2 minute list

Substitute "white" for black anywhere on that list and tell me you're ok with it.

 

[Gelcoater]

What sort of institutions?

NAACP?
BETv?
Miss Black America?
Miss Black USA?
UNCF?
Black history month?
Black Panthers?
Black scholarships for HS students
Black scholarships for Women
"Historically" black colleges
Black only nightclubs

That's just a 2 minute list

Substitute "white" for black anywhere on that list and tell me you're ok with it.

White Panthers has a nice ring to it.

 

[2CHILL]

Law Enforcement (Higher arrest rates for similar crimes)
Criminal Justice System (Much longer sentences for similar crimes)
Insurance (much higher rates)
Banks (much lower chance of getting a loan)
Prisons ( need I say more)
Housing (higher interest rates)
Colleges (Hence the need for historically black schools)
Television Networks (ABC, NBC, CBS etc, have very little content or creative influence featuring black people. Hence the need for BET, which is owned by Viacom)
Black History Month (Because black history before then wasn't being taught (other than the fact that we were slaves).

See the difference. As you were...

 

[Gelcoater]

Television Networks (Hence the need for BET, which is owned by Viacom)


See the difference. As you were...

I used to love The White Shadow as a kid:thumbsup

Along with,
Sanford and Son
The Jeffersons
Good Times
Fat Albert
Benson
The Cosby Show
And never missed it when they played Shaft on TV :thumbsup

 

[was thatguy]

Law Enforcement (Higher arrest rates for similar crimes)
Criminal Justice System (Much longer sentences for similar crimes)
Insurance (much higher rates)
Banks (much lower chance of getting a loan)
Prisons ( need I say more)
Housing (higher interest rates)
Colleges (Hence the need for historically black schools)
Television Networks (ABC, NBC, CBS etc, have very little content or creative influence featuring black people. Hence the need for BET, which is owned by Viacom)
Black History Month (Because black history before then wasn't being taught (other than the fact that we were slaves).

See the difference. As you were...

Try again chill

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cul..._in_15_new_tv_shows_worth_watching_this_fall/

http://www.theroot.com/photos/new_tv_shows_20122013_black_stars_on_major_networks/

Can you imagine the outcry if a show was named "white-ish"?!

All your other items listed are subjective.

It boggles the mind that you can not see the double standard.

Racism is alive and well, no question about it, and YOU are the reason and promoter of it.
It's a huge industry, what's your cut?

 

[pronstar]

Here's the thing, and it's directed at everyone, but no one in particular:
Political parties "are no ones friends" because they're a self-serving interest.

If your success and happiness is totally dependent upon which political party is "in power" then you need to re-evaluate your life.

Successful people make their own success and their own luck, through hard work, calculated risks that go their way, and perseverance.

No matter what color you are, or who is in power.

One more thing:
It seems absurd that a bunch of white folks seem have all the answers to the issues facing black Americans. Unless you've walked in another man's shoes, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

So why is it continually brought up on RDP...by white folks?

It would be the same if a bunch of Asian Americans "had all the answers" to the problems of Mexican Americans. Makes no sense.

 

[Gelcoater]

Here's the thing, and it's directed at everyone, but no one in particular:
Political parties "are no ones friends" because they're a self-serving interest.

If your success and happiness is totally dependent upon which political party is "in power" then you need to re-evaluate your life.

Successful people make their own success and their own luck, through hard work, calculated risks that go their way, and perseverance.

No matter what color you are

Can people succeed with an oppressive and tyrannical government in power?

I see one party attempting to be more oppressive as far as rights are concerned.
Not that the other party is any better.

 

[was thatguy]

Here's the thing, and it's directed at everyone, but no one in particular:
Political parties "are no ones friends" because they're a self-serving interest.

If your success and happiness is totally dependent upon which political party is "in power" then you need to re-evaluate your life.

Successful people make their own success and their own luck, through hard work, calculated risks that go their way, and perseverance.

No matter what color you are, or who is in power.

One more thing:
It seems absurd that a bunch of white folks seem have all the answers to the issues facing black Americans. Unless you've walked in another man's shoes, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

So why is it continually brought up on RDP...by white folks?

It would be the same if a bunch of Asian Americans "had all the answers" to the problems of Mexican Americans. Makes no sense.

The answer is simple.
I don't pretend to know what it's like being a black man.
But I do know what it's like being a white man who is categorized as a racist strictly because of my skin.
I know what I saw as a child (Biloxi born) concerning racism (REAL racism).
I know what it was like getting my ass beat almost every day by Phillipino kids for 3 years because I was white.
I see a black (half) POTUS make appointments based STRICTLY on skin color...over and over.

I clearly see a double standard every where I look and it's not because of slavery, or because of white supremacy...it's exactly the opposite in fact.

 

[2CHILL]

Here's the thing, and it's directed at everyone, but no one in particular:
Political parties "are no ones friends" because they're a self-serving interest.

If your success and happiness is totally dependent upon which political party is "in power" then you need to re-evaluate your life.

Successful people make their own success and their own luck, through hard work, calculated risks that go their way, and perseverance.

No matter what color you are, or who is in power.

One more thing:
It seems absurd that a bunch of white folks seem have all the answers to the issues facing black Americans. Unless you've walked in another man's shoes, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

So why is it continually brought up on RDP...by white folks?

It would be the same if a bunch of Asian Americans "had all the answers" to the problems of Mexican Americans. Makes no sense.

THANK YOU.

 

[SBMech]

Here's the thing, and it's directed at everyone, but no one in particular:
Political parties "are no ones friends" because they're a self-serving interest.

If your success and happiness is totally dependent upon which political party is "in power" then you need to re-evaluate your life.

Successful people make their own success and their own luck, through hard work, calculated risks that go their way, and perseverance.

No matter what color you are, or who is in power.

One more thing:
It seems absurd that a bunch of white folks seem have all the answers to the issues facing black Americans. Unless you've walked in another man's shoes, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

So why is it continually brought up on RDP...by white folks?

It would be the same if a bunch of Asian Americans "had all the answers" to the problems of Mexican Americans. Makes no sense.

Honestly it's because of self perpetuation of racsim in all aspects of our society currently, no one is claiming to have all the answers for African Americans, or any other American that I know of.

We call the kettle and pot the same way we'll call out each other.

Mostly IMO it's because we see things differently than anyone else, being a white man in America atm makes you automatically a racist, because you can't say or do anything without almost EVERYONE calling your actions racist.

Defend yourself from attack, your motives are racial hate crimes.

Try to point out the massive self perpetuating racism via media (BET et all) and get called a racist, they need to have their OWN stuff bro...FUBU....

Lets see how long any of those things would exist with they were "White Entertainment Television" etc.

It's a pretty sad fucking society we live in atm, they got us going at each other so good, most can't see how hard they are about to fuck us over...via illegal immigration for the last 8 years +....it's insane what they are getting away with.

Yet here we all sit, fighting among each other, just like they want.

 

[was thatguy]

Chill, please correct me if I am wrong here.

3 white RDP guys are at a bar having beer.
You walk in alone. You sit and we all have a good time drinking and debating everything from racism to flat billers and the level of self importance required to own a schiada!
We all laugh and shake hands, fight over the bill and go home with smiles on our faces.
(And I have no doubt that could happen and might happen one day)

Now, I walk in a bar where you and a couple of your friends (black) are drinking and having a good time.
Would the same scenario be true?
Because my experience is that it would not.

 

[wsuwrhr]

White Panthers has a nice ring to it.

Racissss.

 

[was thatguy]

Here's the thing, and it's directed at everyone, but no one in particular:
Political parties "are no ones friends" because they're a self-serving interest.

If your success and happiness is totally dependent upon which political party is "in power" then you need to re-evaluate your life.

Successful people make their own success and their own luck, through hard work, calculated risks that go their way, and perseverance.

No matter what color you are, or who is in power.

One more thing:
It seems absurd that a bunch of white folks seem have all the answers to the issues facing black Americans. Unless you've walked in another man's shoes, you really have no idea what you're talking about.

So why is it continually brought up on RDP...by white folks?

It would be the same if a bunch of Asian Americans "had all the answers" to the problems of Mexican Americans. Makes no sense.

Ironically, your post underlines the entire problem.
It's the fucking hyphen.

We are ALL Americans, and we need to start addressing OUR common struggles instead of the never fucking ending hyphen.

 

[Bobby V]

Chill, please correct me if I am wrong here.

3 white RDP guys are at a bar having beer.
You walk in alone. You sit and we all have a good time drinking and debating everything from racism to flat billers and the level of self importance required to own a schiada!
We all laugh and shake hands, fight over the bill and go home with smiles on our faces.
(And I have no doubt that could happen and might happen one day)

Now, I walk in a bar where you and a couple of your friends (black) are drinking and having a good time.
Would the same scenario be true?
Because my experience is that it would not.

Hey that happened Friday night at the Turtle. RD, Yopengo, SummitKarl, Beerman and myself. Beerman is the 6'-9" black guy. :skull

 

[2CHILL]

Chill, please correct me if I am wrong here.

3 white RDP guys are at a bar having beer.
You walk in alone. You sit and we all have a good time drinking and debating everything from racism to flat billers and the level of self importance required to own a schiada!
We all laugh and shake hands, fight over the bill and go home with smiles on our faces.
(And I have no doubt that could happen and might happen one day)

Now, I walk in a bar where you and a couple of your friends (black) are drinking and having a good time.
Would the same scenario be true?
Because my experience is that it would not.

It would, without a doubt be true. I'm sorry to hear that hasn't been your experience...

 

[wsuwrhr]

It would, without a doubt be true. I'm sorry to hear that hasn't been your experience...

You are higher than giraffe pussy.

 

[was thatguy]

Hey that happened Friday night at the Turtle. RD, Yopengo, SummitKarl, Beerman and myself. Beerman is the 6'-9" black guy. :skull

What was the final outcome of the Shiada debate???:thumbsup

 

[Gelcoater]

:lmao

What was the final outcome of the Shiada debate???:thumbsup

 

[pronstar]

Ironically, your post underlines the entire problem.
It's the fucking hyphen.

We are ALL Americans, and we need to start addressing OUR common struggles instead of the never fucking ending hyphen.

Isn't that just another form of political correctness, which we rail against elsewhere?

I have fat fingers and "American of Asian descent" isn't easy to repetitively type...so now I'm the problem with America.

That's laughable.
You know me and how I post.
I'm a fucking American thru and thru.

My mom is an immigrant. We were raised to speak English only, for better or worse, because that's the language of America.

My family assimilated and every family we sponsored and helped bring here is successful and never received a fucking dime of government assistance, ever. It would have been shameful in our culture to do so.

"My people" are for traditional American valid of hard work, resisting tyranny, and embracing our rights, both 1A and 2A and every other right.

I'm all for inclusion and finding similarities. I'm not a divider. And I'm not the problem.

 

[Bobby V]

What was the final outcome of the Shiada debate???:thumbsup

Not much. This was a Hallett Regatta event.

The funny part was RD said I was his favorite (D) on the boards and if I voted for Trump I would have a life time supply of RDP swag. :skull :drink

 

[Gelcoater]

Isn't that just another form of political correctness, which we rail against elsewhere?

I have fat fingers and "American of Asian descent" isn't easy to repetitively type...so now I'm the problem with America.

That's laughable.
You know me and how I post.
I'm a fucking American thru and thru.

My mom is an immigrant. We were raised to speak English only, for better or worse, because that's the language of America.

My family assimilated and every family we sponsored and helped bring here is successful and never received a fucking dime of government assistance, ever. It would have been shameful in our culture to do so.

"My people" are for traditional American valid of hard work, resisting tyranny, and embracing our rights, both 1A and 2A and every other right.

I'm all for inclusion and finding similarities. I'm not a divider. And I'm not the problem.

he didn't say you were the problem.He said the hyphen was the problem.
I believe you are American thru and thru just as you claim:thumbsup
"My people" "your people" to me is just another term like the hyphen though.
You are my people,just as all the others posting in this thread.🇺🇸

 

[boatdoc55]

Not much. This was a Hallett Regatta event.

The funny part was RD said I was his favorite (D) on the boards and if I voted for Trump I would have a life time supply of RDP swag. :skull :drink

So did you get your new shirt and hat???

 

[Bobby V]

So did you get your new shirt and hat???

I got a new Hallett shirt and hat. Cost me $35.

 

[pronstar]

Chill, please correct me if I am wrong here.

3 white RDP guys are at a bar having beer.
You walk in alone. You sit and we all have a good time drinking and debating everything from racism to flat billers and the level of self importance required to own a schiada!
We all laugh and shake hands, fight over the bill and go home with smiles on our faces.
(And I have no doubt that could happen and might happen one day)

Now, I walk in a bar where you and a couple of your friends (black) are drinking and having a good time.
Would the same scenario be true?
Because my experience is that it would not.

Give t a try and find out, rather than assume something to be true?

I've seen pics of events the 2Chill posts, I bet you'd have a good time. I believe I would.

Not to pull two of your posts to rail against. Don't take it personal...I like you and making enemies isn't my style.

 

[Old Texan]

Law Enforcement (Higher arrest rates for similar crimes)
Criminal Justice System (Much longer sentences for similar crimes)
Insurance (much higher rates)
Banks (much lower chance of getting a loan)
Prisons ( need I say more)
Housing (higher interest rates)
Colleges (Hence the need for historically black schools)
Television Networks (ABC, NBC, CBS etc, have very little content or creative influence featuring black people. Hence the need for BET, which is owned by Viacom)
Black History Month (Because black history before then wasn't being taught (other than the fact that we were slaves).

See the difference. As you were...

Sorry Chilly, that list is largely a crock of shit from my observations. I may live in a far different place in the world than you do, but I do not see the prejudice your list is based on around these parts. Banks, housing and colleges especially.

Can you honestly back up claims such as higher insurance rates? I'd love to see the basis of that one.

Arrests and prison sentences are the ones that get me shaking my head when I see those claims. Big talking point that always fails to take into account how certain neighborhoods seem to be where crime is located. It isn't like drug dealers set up shop in just any neighborhood. They set up shop in neighborhoods that allow them to do business and have users living in that neighborhood. They set up where they feel safe because residents often are connected to someone, and many residents not connected, are too scared to do anything as they will be harmed or have there homes broken into or damaged.

Tough to use segregation as an excuse when racial populations live together and become hellholes. Are white folks the ones to blame when blacks move in, then their offspring and kinfolk soon bring social issues with them, turning once peaceful well kept areas in to shitholes full of trouble? And don't get me wrong, pure white neighbor hoods turn in to shitholes with purewhite occupants which further proves it ain't about skin color but more about "people". These are social issues that often times happen to one "color" more than another, but they are still more isolated "people" issues than purely racial issues.

Sentences are often harsher because no remorse is shown or attempts to get help if addicts. Clam up and play hard guy results in harsher treatment as that is how the system works. Add in the repeat offender stats and the proof is in the stats.

Again Chill, you're responding defensively rather than objectively and omitting specifics that keep your perpetual list of excuses intact and growing.

 

[Hullbilly]

he didn't say you were the problem.He said the hyphen was the problem.
I believe you are American thru and thru just as you claim:thumbsup
"My people" "your people" to me is just another term like the hyphen though.
You are my people,just as all the others posting in this thread.

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[Gelcoater]

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Son of a bitch that's gay!

 

[was thatguy]

Isn't that just another form of political correctness, which we rail against elsewhere?

I have fat fingers and "American of Asian descent" isn't easy to repetitively type...so now I'm the problem with America.

That's laughable.
You know me and how I post.
I'm a fucking American thru and thru.

My mom is an immigrant. We were raised to speak English only, for better or worse, because that's the language of America.

My family assimilated and every family we sponsored and helped bring here is successful and never received a fucking dime of government assistance, ever. It would have been shameful in our culture to do so.

"My people" are for traditional American valid of hard work, resisting tyranny, and embracing our rights, both 1A and 2A and every other right.

I'm all for inclusion and finding similarities. I'm not a divider. And I'm not the problem.

I apologize if it came across as an attack on you in any way.
I most certainly did not mean it as such.
My point was that hyphenated America is not helping in any way.

 

[pronstar]

I apologize if it came across as an attack on you in any way.
I most certainly did not mean it as such.
My point was that hyphenated America is not helping in any way.

I know you brother, it's all good.

 

[Wombat]

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Is that what you Yanks call a sausage fest. :yikesuke: