Barndo.....Who has one?

[DILLIGAF]

So looking at a lot of properties in Texas and the barndominiums (sp?) I like a lot.

You can buy many different plans on them and they are very interesting layouts. A few I have found that aren't 100% complete interior wise and I don't have any issues with buying for less while finishing off the interior.

Here is one for an example:
https://www.houseplans.net/floorplans/00900346/barn-plan-1286-square-feet-2-bedrooms-2-bathrooms

Anybody have one built?

Anybody live in one?

Pros and cons?

Thanks for any input in advance

 

[BingerFang]

It is my dream to bulldoze my house (myself) and then pay someone to build a huge barndo like that.

 

[rivrrts429]

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[Instigator]

We are working on plans for one that we plan to build in Prescott Valley is a couple of years.

 

[DILLIGAF]

I really like the open interior in them. The flexibility is awesome as well and they look nice and can go up a lot faster than a traditional stick built

 

[Romans9]

Getting ready to start one in a month.

I will build it like I did my house.
All of my “plans” were on grid paper with a ruler and pencil.

Right now I plan on a 80x150 18 feet side walls
Living space will be 40x80 with open atrium in the middle and rooms on both sides in the second floor.

Been working towards this for 15 years. All cash.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Getting ready to start one in a month.

I will build it like I did my house.
All of my “plans” were on grid paper with a ruler and pencil.

Right now I plan on a 80x150 18 feet side walls
Living space will be 40x80 with open atrium in the middle and rooms on both sides in the second floor.

Been working towards this for 15 years. All cash.

That will be a pretty good sized one.

You going to build yourself?

 

[Flatsix66]

Here is a Barndo design company. https://www.instagram.com/home_collaborations/

 

[mesquito_creek]

Getting ready to start one in a month.

I will build it like I did my house.
All of my “plans” were on grid paper with a ruler and pencil.

Right now I plan on a 80x150 18 feet side walls
Living space will be 40x80 with open atrium in the middle and rooms on both sides in the second floor.

Been working towards this for 15 years. All cash.

Hopefully you already own a telescoping material handler and an off road scissor lift…

I built 2 on my property in the past 3 years, both with 16 foot top plates and it’s the most difficult part of the construction… And the 16 foot fiberglass ladders take 2 people to move when you are as old and broken down as I am!

 

[Romans9]

That will be a pretty good sized one.

You going to build yourself?

Yes.

If I waited a few more years it would be bigger.
My dad always said he would have put a post at every corner of his property and covered it all if he could have.

I have three projects to build and will use some of the space for them.
1. New service truck
2. New coach
3. New multi-use trailer

We entertain and have people stay with us quite a bit.
Our current house is 6 bedroom and 5 1/2 baths.
We have no children left at home.

The new place will have at least as many bed rooms with a bathroom in each. Our current house has 4 bedrooms with their own bathroom.
We live in a very rural area and have all family events at our house. My son got married in our current home.

I have three side x sides, a sand car, a street rod, and of course our daily drivers plus my current service truck. Soon to have some floating entertainment.
I want everything under one roof. The end wall will also be a beam wall in case I want to add on.

 

[Romans9]

Hopefully you already own a telescoping material handler and an off road scissor lift…

I built 2 on my property in the past 3 years, both with 16 foot top plates and it’s the most difficult part of the construction… And the 16 foot fiberglass ladders take 2 people to move when you are as old and broken down as I am!

I daily drive a truck with a crane.
I will most likely have a crew erect the red iron and skin it.

 

[DILLIGAF]

So two that I am looking at...one has some framing done while the other one has no framing. Both has the structure up with plumbing, electrical and gas connections in place

Sounds like hardest part is done but lose some flexibility based on plumbing elec and gas unless you want it moved around

 

[DILLIGAF]

Yes.

If I waited a few more years it would be bigger.
My dad always said he would have put a post at every corner of his property and covered it all if he could have.

I have three projects to build and will use some of the space for them.
1. New service truck
2. New coach
3. New multi-use trailer

We entertain and have people stay with us quite a bit.
Our current house is 6 bedroom and 5 1/2 baths.
We have no children left at home.

The new place will have at least as many bed rooms with a bathroom in each. Our current house has 4 bedrooms with their own bathroom.
We live in a very rural area and have all family events at our house. My son got married in our current home.

I have three side x sides, a sand car, a street rod, and of course our daily drivers plus my current service truck. Soon to have some floating entertainment.
I want everything under one roof. The end wall will also be a beam wall in case I want to add on.

Thats kind of what I want but on a much smaller scale.

Sounds like you got it all researched and all system go.

Your pops thinking I like. Lol

how long are you thinking that completion is going to take?

 

[mesquito_creek]

I daily drive a truck with a crane.
I will most likely have a crew erect the red iron and skin it.

Smart…

Most of the metal building manufacturers have in house engineering and will price you out pre-engineered. So I wouldn’t spend too much time on that grid paper besides the rough dimensions.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

I wish. Love the barndo style, but my wife hates em. I like to watch this channel and dream.

https://youtube.com/@texasbestbarndominium?si=KpW3y2U9c8SoUHyA

 

[monkeyswrench]

We are working on plans for one that we plan to build in Prescott Valley is a couple of years.

If doing this in PV, you'll be around me somewhere

 

[DILLIGAF]

These builds should last a lot longer than a typical stick built with less maint in the future as well correct?

 

[mesquito_creek]

These builds should last a lot longer than a typical stick built with less maint in the future as well correct?

I don’t know about that? A metal roof is a metal roof regardless and have a life span if they cover metal siding or stucco…. You don’t have termites but you have corrosion. To do a metal building for residential occupancy you have to seal it and insulate it far beyond what you do for a commercial/agricultural metal building and all of your cost savings goes away.

The only advantage to metal is you can do the huge free spans like romans9 and you can stand them up and dry them in a lot faster. But that’s it in my experience, cost is the same or more when all said and done.

 

[Romans9]

Thats kind of what I want but on a much smaller scale.

Sounds like you got it all researched and all system go.

Your pops thinking I like. Lol

how long are you thinking that completion is going to take?

Building/Garage area 3-4 months dirt work to usable. I will finish a bed room and a temporary kitchen in the same time frame. The rest f the living area I’d say will take a year but that’s because it will all be custom and extremely unique. I will do all the mechanical (electrical, plumbing, HVAC) some of the rough in and some of the finish work. Wife will do the tile and taking care of servicing the in house handy mans special needs…..

 

[Romans9]

But that’s it in my experience, cost is the same or more when all said and done.

Yes it is if you do it to an acceptable code and use industry standards. When you do that on a metal building build you are much like a commercial build which is obviously higher.

To those with no experience, do not think or let anyone tell you its cheaper, its not.

 

[mesquito_creek]

Yes it is if you do it to an acceptable code and use industry standards. When you do that on a metal building build you are much like a commercial build which is obviously higher.

To those with no experience, do not think or let anyone tell you its cheaper, its not.

We both know the reason DIY people like them is you permit at the bare minimum and then build them out internally however you want without of the eyes of assessor/inspector!

Secondly, you can have a dry building in a week or two once the concrete is done. Then you can finish the inside at your own pace.

Third, you have a super cool building where you are living in your garage like we all have always wanted to do!

 

[DILLIGAF]

I don’t know about that? A metal roof is a metal roof regardless and have a life span if they cover metal siding or stucco…. You don’t have termites but you have corrosion. To do a metal building for residential occupancy you have to seal it and insulate it far beyond what you do for a commercial/agricultural metal building and all of your cost savings goes away.

The only advantage to metal is you can do the huge free spans like romans9 and you can stand them up and dry them in a lot faster. But that’s it in my experience, cost is the same or more when all said and done.

Makes sense.

Good thing is my son will be doing the heavy lifting and understands all of this a helluva a lot better than me.

I was wondering about the insulation. Definitly not an area to go cheap on.

 

[DILLIGAF]

With the structure up, windows in, elec plumbing and gas all ready and you can totally can lock it all up.....just worry about the inside build out sounds a lot less work but less flexibility of course.

Makes me wonder why people dont finish them?

 

[mesquito_creek]

With the structure up, windows in, elec plumbing and gas all ready and you can totally can lock it all up.....just worry about the inside build out sounds a lot less work but less flexibility of course.

Makes me wonder why people dont finish them?

The inside work is harder… you are building a building inside of a building. People don’t finish them because they figure out how much work it is versus what they saw on YouTube!

 

[DILLIGAF]

The inside work is harder… you are building a building inside of a building. People don’t finish them because they figure out how much work it is versus what they saw on YouTube!

Lol. I was thinking maybe contractors come in, slap em up and move on and do it again. I know of three exactly like this

I havent looked at any youtubes either. My BIL who will help used to have a GC lic so will assist as well.

 

[Romans9]

We both know the reason DIY people like them is you permit at the bare minimum and then build them out internally however you want without of the eyes of assessor/inspector!

Secondly, you can have a dry building in a week or two once the concrete is done. Then you can finish the inside at your own pace.

Third, you have a super cool building where you are living in your garage like we all have always wanted to do!

Actually in my neck of the woods there are no building permits at all. The only inspection is the septic system.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Love them.

I'm not sure I will ever build one and live in an area that remote but I think they are super cool.

This couple built one and has a good channel for general builds and property development.

 

[mesquito_creek]

Actually in my neck of the woods there are no building permits at all. The only inspection is the septic system.

That getting harder and harder to find, but makes it a lot easier! Rural areas with no permits or simple permit procedures make for the best use case on Barndos for sure!

 

[DILLIGAF]

That getting harder and harder to find, but makes it a lot easier! Rural areas with no permits or simple permit procedures make for the best use case on Barndos for sure!

Pretty much where I am heading

 

[Cobalt232]

Sorry for the slight subject change, but has anyone seen these modern Frank Lloyd Wright homes?

My wife hates them, but to me, these are great.

Frank Lloyd Wright Usonian Inspired Houses | Lindal Cedar Homes

Frank Lloyd Wright's Usonian houses inspired our floor plans that honor the original designs with modern updates for today's homeowner.

lindal.com

 

[mesquito_creek]

After building a house myself and doing a couple major structures and additions… my degenerative disc disease and facet arthropathy forced me to take the easy way out on our vacation property. I did stand up the pole barn myself but just wrote a check and paid a transporter to deliver the internal structure. LOL! It’s a work in progress for all the reasons above.

 

[DILLIGAF]

After building a house myself and doing a couple major structures and additions… my degenerative disc disease and facet arthropathy forced me to take the easy way out on our vacation property. I did stand up the pole barn myself but just wrote a check and paid a transporter to deliver the internal structure. LOL! It’s a work in progress for all the reasons above.


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Not a damn thing wrong with that.....

Looks like a great setup to me

 

[DILLIGAF]

Love them.

I'm not sure I will ever build one and live in an area that remote but I think they are super cool.

This couple built one and has a good channel for general builds and property development.

Good video....I do not have the skills or wants to even approach doing something like that.

Plus after watching that I am now dizzy.....lol

 

[Cole Trickle]

Good video....I do not have the skills or wants to even approach doing something like that.

Plus after watching that I am now dizzy.....lol

His job is creating content and that farm gives him a ton of work. Genius actually building a house for yourself and the views pay for it.

Cant wait to see what you come up with.

 

[DILLIGAF]

I want my setup to be simple, usable, efficient and comfortable. Add on cabins or something like that, possibly a few RV pads for friends. That guy is on an entirely different level.

His job is creating content and that farm gives him a ton of work. Genius actually building a house for yourself and the views pay for it.

Cant wait to see what you come up with.

 

[Flatsix66]

If they cost the same to build as a normal stick house, how does resale compare? Property taxes, energy costs and insurance?

 

[mesquito_creek]

If they cost the same to build as a normal stick house, how does resale compare? Property taxes, energy costs and insurance?

Totally depends on where it’s located. In my smaller scale example:

Property tax is double because I am a “seasonal resident” not a permanent Utah resident and they hit you for 2x for that.

Energy is minimal after the initial expense because I run the whole property off grid with solar.

Insurance is more than my main house in AZ relatively becuase for some reason I had to get a commercial policy… most likely because I never plan on getting a C.O. Permit until I build a permanent residence. I plan on selling it in 3-5 years or subdividing off 2 or 3 individual 3/4 or 1 acre sized lots from the 4.5 it sits on

 

[callbob]

We ended up going a little different. Kids have a nice home and a big shop on about 3 acres. We thought about buying a park model and put there. HOA won’t let us. Kids wanted us to do something with Moms cancer winding down and rules say we can build onto the existing shop. Wife and daughter found a house plan they liked and builder adapted it to work. About 800 sq ft but plenty for us and small dog. Close to main house so daughter can help me with care if need be. What helps is family owns a lumber yard/truss plant/hardware store. They started on it in November and sent pics for our feedback through the process. Moved in last month and finishing up wrap around deck now. When we get back from our big adventure, I will post some picks. This is the only one I have on tablet. Charley (our Maltese/poodle) with Lucy, one of the kids 3 labradoodles who come to visit.

 

[Instigator]

These builds should last a lot longer than a typical stick built with less maint in the future as well correct?

The ones we are looking at have a 30 year warranty against leaks, color fading and roof leaks if you do the standing seam roof system.
At that point you gotta ask, is the company still gonna be in business is 30 years cuz I won't live that long.
Lol

 

[DILLIGAF]

The ones we are looking at have a 30 year warranty against leaks, color fading and roof leaks if you do the standing seam roof system.
At that point you gotta ask, is the company still gonna be in business is 30 years cuz I won't live that long.
Lol

Same here...lol. I was thinking more for the grandkids to use after I am gone

 

[Eliminator21vdrive]

I didn't read all of the posts but am in the process of plans and planning and buying dirt.

I was going to do the two story deal at first and extend the garage and now leaning towards the single story with semi attached (but much larger) shop so I can final shop first and move into it with RV and finish home once I am there.

I am adding the mud room from the two story to the single plan and that makes the #2 & #3 bedrooms larger as well.

Cool plans on monster house plans .com

Barndominium House Plan - 3 Bedrooms, 2 Bath, 2311 Sq Ft Plan 104-261

www.monsterhouseplans.com

Barndominium House Plan - 3 Bedrooms, 2 Bath, 2050 Sq Ft Plan 104-339

www.monsterhouseplans.com

 

[whiteworks]

Some things to think about in purchasing property with an existing barndo shell.

Soil compaction, placement of structure in regards to prevailing winds, flood plain, sunlight/shade path and of course the engineering specs for everything that is in place.

I’d be reluctant to purchase something that was built without inspections that was most likely done as an unfinished spec build for someone coming into area to purchase and finish out.

However if all of those things were taken into consideration and pass the smell test, might be a nice head start on a cool “project”.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Some things to think about in purchasing property with an existing barndo shell.

Soil compaction, placement of structure in regards to prevailing winds, flood plain, sunlight/shade path and of course the engineering specs for everything that is in place.

I’d be reluctant to purchase something that was built without inspections that was most likely done as an unfinished spec build for someone coming into area to purchase and finish out.

However if all of those things were taken into consideration and pass the smell test, might be a nice head start on a cool “project”.

Absolutely.....I have many questions that need answered before submitting an offer to buy on one I found. All interior would need to be built out

 

[mobldj]

Love them.

I'm not sure I will ever build one and live in an area that remote but I think they are super cool.

This couple built one and has a good channel for general builds and property development.

she better swallow every load for eternity for him building her that home.dude is beyond talented

 

[monkeyswrench]

Red iron frame work isn't easy, but kind of fun. I built mine by myself. As others say, finishing out the inside for living quarters would be a lot of work, this one isn't.

This is a "room addition" for the wife's on hold pre-school project.

Spray foamed and rocked. Has a kitchen area and cabinetry in this area now.

 

[DILLIGAF]

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Red iron frame work isn't easy, but kind of fun. I built mine by myself. As others say, finishing out the inside for living quarters would be a lot of work, this one isn't.
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Spray foamed and rocked. Has a kitchen area and cabinetry in this area now.

I would be counting on assisting my son with direction from my BIL who had a GC lic. We would do this interior work ourselves and hopefully not kill each other.....lol. Its just an option and waiting on a lot of questions before providing an offer.

Nice job on your end. You def know how to get shit done

 

[whiteworks]

A buddy of mine just built this, he’s in about $100k on this, concrete floors and insulated. I thinks it about 3000 sq.ft.

 

[DILLIGAF]

A buddy of mine just built this, he’s in about $100k on this, concrete floors and insulated. I thinks it about 3000 sq.ft. View attachment 1380090

Looks like an airplane hanger

 

[whiteworks]

Looks like an airplane hanger

It is, but steel building are pretty much erector sets you put together. Point being is that’s what $100k of steel building should look like, land is not included.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Costs have gone up, no shock there. My concrete work is overkill, but no cracks to speak of. It was just shy of 20k 6 years ago, about 100yds. The building is 40x50. I got lucky on that, as the building, doors, insulation and hardware were only 6k. Just had to be able to load it and move it. It sucked. I am in my building total for under 30k with permits. A lot of blood and sweat though. My "room addition" was pretty basic. Without serious re-engineering of the existing structure, wood framing wouldn't fly. The steel is essentially a 3 sided structure that can handle the snow load. It worked out as being cheaper than wood, and I had the shell up in 2 days by myself.

I would be counting on assisting my son with direction from my BIL who had a GC lic. We would do this interior work ourselves and hopefully not kill each other.....lol. Its just an option and waiting on a lot of questions before providing an offer.

Nice job on your end. You def know how to get shit done