AZ ballot audit is happening now!!!!

[Fastdadtsmith]

They should absolutely look at it and objectively have repeatedly done so. Which is appropriate.

However, there would certainly come a point after multiple audits, multiple court cases, and multiple times where allegations of “rigging” could in no way be proven consistent with the law and constitution where I would accept that maybe some people were no longer rational about their endless allegations and maybe they should go hang out with OJ looking for the real killer?

So, do I hear you planting your seed for your "out" to not believe the findings? I think this is way bigger than Trump vs Biden.

 

[regor]

"multiple audits, multiple court cases"

 

[squeezer]

If ANY person believes Biden got over 80 million legit votes, Yer Delusional. Period. Prove it. So. Proven a crime. What's a bigger crime? What King George was doing to the Colonies? Or what the Deep State aligned, Treasonous Liberal Socialist Democrats admit they did to America? The DS just killed a 45 year old Journalist to keep Ya'all quiet.

Way back when, Patrick Henry sums it up. "Give me Liberty, or Give me Death...."

80 million people did not vote for Biden... 80 million voted against Trump.

Anybody that doesnt believe that is the delusional one.

 

[Doc]

They should absolutely look at it and objectively have repeatedly done so. Which is appropriate.

However, there would certainly come a point after multiple audits, multiple court cases, and multiple times where allegations of “rigging” could in no way be proven consistent with the law and constitution where I would accept that maybe some people were no longer rational about their endless allegations and maybe they should go hang out with OJ looking for the real killer?

Is that so? So you are going to sit here and lecture everyone on how after a "point" everyone should stop because you feel we have reached that "point and it's proven consistent with the law and constitution"? Uhmm, did we forget about Russia, Russia, Russia already? Did we forget how much money and time was spent on that one?

I'll agree with you on this, let's get this done and move forward either way. I do find it funny how the table is turned and how the left is crying when they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

 

[530RL]

So, do I hear you planting your seed for your "out" to not believe the findings? I think this is way bigger than Trump vs Biden.

Cyber Ninja’s ownership and management concluded there was fraud in Arizona and that Trump definitively won Arizona prior to their audit beginning.

Their findings and conclusions are already out and we’re released before any work was started.

They need to take those findings to a court of appropriate jurisdiction and have them ruled upon. They need to prove those findings consistent with the rule of law and our Constitution.

And if they don’t, I think most should be suspect and most will.

 

[regor]

Cyber Ninja’s ownership and management concluded there was fraud in Arizona and that Trump definitively won Arizona prior to their audit beginning.

Their findings and conclusions are already out and we’re released before any work was started.

They need to take those findings to a court of appropriate jurisdiction and have them ruled upon. They need to prove those findings consistent with the rule of law and our Constitution.

And if they don’t, I think most should be suspect and most will.

Ooooooooooooooh, okaaaaaaaaaay.......

Keep doubling down boy, it's a good fit for you!!!

 

[530RL]

Is that so? So you are going to sit here and lecture everyone on how after a "point" everyone should stop because you feel we have reached that "point and it's proven consistent with the law and constitution"? Uhmm, did we forget about Russia, Russia, Russia already? Did we forget how much money and time was spent on that one?

I'll agree with you on this, let's get this done and move forward either way. I do find it funny how the table is turned and how the left is crying when they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

You make a good point that everyone wants another investigation on both sides. Just one more and we will finally find the proof.

In reality over the last four years both sides have convinced the American public that the Institutions of our Republic are all corrupt and broken. They have convinced their supporters that the great experiment was a failure.

As a result people no longer respect or believe them. The rational conclusion is the end of American exceptionalism has begun. When thirty percent of the country demands the murder by hanging of anyone who didn’t vote for Trump, and those same people defend the calls to hang the Vice President as “Patriotic” there is no longer a Country to fight for. Their is no longer a common goal.

Our enemies no longer need to invade us, we will end the Republican on our own.

 

[regor]

In reality over the last four years both sides have convinced the American public that the Institutions of our Republic are all corrupt and broken.

The Clinton, Biden, Obama, and the Bush families all like this post!!!

 

[Doc]

You make a good point that everyone wants another investigation on both sides. Just one more and we will finally find the proof.

In reality over the last four years both sides have convinced the American public that the Institutions of our Republic are all corrupt and broken. They have convinced their supporters that the great experiment was a failure.

As a result people no longer respect or believe them. The rational conclusion is the end of American exceptionalism has begun. When thirty percent of the country demands the murder by hanging of anyone who didn’t vote for Trump, and those same people defend the calls to hang the Vice President as “Patriotic” there is no longer a Country to fight for. Their is no longer a common goal.

Our enemies no longer need to invade us, we will end the Republican on our own.

Who is demanding a hanging? Not saying it didn't happen, just figured it would be all over the news. Regardless, any example you throw up I am sure can be met by 5 examples of the lefties and threats on Trump easily.

Common goal was thrown out a long time ago. Your side doesn't believe in it at all. It's their agenda and that's it, you either are along for the ride or you are the enemy and that's pretty evident. The thirst for power and control has been taken to a whole new level, covid sure showed this all over the spectrum all the way down to City Mayors and across the world.

Our enemies have invaded us, by buying these power hungry politicians and staying in the shadows. I know even you can see this happening!

 

[530RL]

Who is demanding a hanging? Not saying it didn't happen, just figured it would be all over the news. Regardless, any example you throw up I am sure can be met by 5 examples of the lefties and threats on Trump easily.

Common goal was thrown out a long time ago. Your side doesn't believe in it at all. It's their agenda and that's it, you either are along for the ride or you are the enemy and that's pretty evident. The thirst for power and control has been taken to a whole new level, covid sure showed this all over the spectrum all the way down to City Mayors and across the world.

Our enemies have invaded us, by buying these power hungry politicians and staying in the shadows. I know even you can see this happening!

The fact that you state and I suspect honestly believe it is only one side that has taken the position of “you are either along for the ride or you are the enemy” is the exact reason why the American experiment is over and a failure.

 

[Doc]

The fact that you state and I suspect honestly believe it is only one side that has taken the position of “you are either along for the ride or you are the enemy” is the exact reason why the American experiment is over and a failure.

Nice twist as always and completely inaccurate of what I said.

The only experiment here was voter fraud. Cripple an economy, shut it down, force ballets and let the machines do the rest. I will admit well played, execution not bad either. You guys had your chance with Russia came up short on that one and had years to plan this one out.

The next experiment was how to divide a nation and cause chaos. I.E. Antifa, BLM, destruction of cities and federal buildings. News and social media coverups, silencing of a sitting president and so on.

America is far from over and not a failure, and frankly for you to say that is disrespectful to the men and woman who have given their lives for it.

 

[530RL]

Nice twist as always and completely inaccurate of what I said.

The only experiment here was voter fraud. Cripple an economy, shut it down, force ballets and let the machines do the rest. I will admit well played, execution not bad either. You guys had your chance with Russia came up short on that one and had years to plan this one out.

The next experiment was how to divide a nation and cause chaos. I.E. Antifa, BLM, destruction of cities and federal buildings. News and social media coverups, silencing of a sitting president and so on.

America is far from over and not a failure, and frankly for you to say that is disrespectful to the men and woman who have given their lives for it.

I don't see anyone in here or a large group out in current society having any interest in putting the US back together, they all take the exact position as you do above, where it is all the other guys fault. As you outline above in your examples, the other guy is the enemy of the Constitution, my side, well it is just perfect.......

I'm not sure why any of the 81 million that voted for Biden, nor their young adult offspring, would want to give their lives to defend a bunch of Americans who claim that by voting for Biden they completely support pedophiles, perverts, are immoral and support the rape of children? Why defend a bunch of people who keep asking for "more rope" and wish more harm on you than any other person in the world?

Just as I am not sure why any of the 74 million who voted for Trump, nor their young adult offspring, would want to give their lives to defend a bunch of Americans who are "traitors, enemies of America, cheaters and commie scum? Why defend a bunch of people who have betrayed America?

Seems to me either side would logically team up with a foreign enemy and kill the real enemies to the Republic.........the other guy.........Sort of like we have seen happen in history over and over again as one empire supplants the previous.

American's have lost sight of the view that the greatness of America is not derived from redistributing the pie, but by making the pie bigger. You can't make the pie bigger when your number one enemy is 81 million fellow Americans.

 

[was thatguy]

I don't see anyone in here or a large group out in current society having any interest in putting the US back together, they all take the exact position as you do above, where it is all the other guys fault. As you outline above in your examples, the other guy is the enemy of the Constitution, my side, well it is just perfect.......

I'm not sure why any of the 81 million that voted for Biden, nor their young adult offspring, would want to give their lives to defend a bunch of Americans who claim that by voting for Biden they completely support pedophiles, perverts, are immoral and support the rape of children? Why defend a bunch of people who keep asking for "more rope" and wish more harm on you than any other person in the world?

Just as I am not sure why any of the 74 million who voted for Trump, nor their young adult offspring, would want to give their lives to defend a bunch of Americans who are "traitors, enemies of America, cheaters and commie scum? Why defend a bunch of people who have betrayed America?

Seems to me either side would logically team up with a foreign enemy and kill the real enemies to the Republic.........the other guy.........Sort of like we have seen happen in history over and over again as one empire supplants the previous.

American's have lost sight of the view that the greatness of America is not derived from redistributing the pie, but by making the pie bigger. You can't make the pie bigger when your number one enemy is 81 million fellow Americans.

You’ve lost your fucking mind.

 

[Doc]

I don't see anyone in here or a large group out in current society having any interest in putting the US back together, they all take the exact position as you do above, where it is all the other guys fault. As you outline above in your examples, the other guy is the enemy of the Constitution, my side, well it is just perfect.......That's just a matter of opinion. Under the previous administration I believed we were putting things back together.

I'm not sure why any of the 81 million that voted for Biden, nor their young adult offspring, would want to give their lives to defend a bunch of Americans who claim that by voting for Biden they completely support pedophiles, perverts, are immoral and support the rape of children? Why defend a bunch of people who keep asking for "more rope" and wish more harm on you than any other person in the world? First that's just mainly here on RDP lol. Second, let's be honest, I would bet most people in our military are right wing voters. I just don't see the liberal type enlisting.

Just as I am not sure why any of the 74 million who voted for Trump, nor their young adult offspring, would want to give their lives to defend a bunch of Americans who are "traitors, enemies of America, cheaters and commie scum? Why defend a bunch of people who have betrayed America? I disagree. They aren't defending ""traitors, enemies of America, cheaters and commie scum" they are defending their country, loved ones, and what freedom we have left.

Seems to me either side would logically team up with a foreign enemy and kill the real enemies to the Republic.........the other guy.........Sort of like we have seen happen in history over and over again as one empire supplants the previous. Seems like your side does it more just based on what we have been seeing the last 120 days.

American's have lost sight of the view that the greatness of America is not derived from redistributing the pie, but by making the pie bigger. You can't make the pie bigger when your number one enemy is 81 million fellow Americans. Well when more people don't have to pay for the pie and it's free sure the line for the piece will get bigger. Now tell me who hands out more "free" money the left or the right?

 

[530RL]

Now tell me who hands out more "free" money the left or the right?

Which party adds more to deficits?

Hint: it’s the Republicans

towardsdatascience.com

 

[regor]

I don't see anyone in here or a large group out in current society having any interest in putting the US back together, they all take the exact position as you do above, where it is all the other guys fault. As you outline above in your examples, the other guy is the enemy of the Constitution, my side, well it is just perfect.......

I'm not sure why any of the 81 million that voted for Biden, nor their young adult offspring, would want to give their lives to defend a bunch of Americans who claim that by voting for Biden they completely support pedophiles, perverts, are immoral and support the rape of children? Why defend a bunch of people who keep asking for "more rope" and wish more harm on you than any other person in the world?

Just as I am not sure why any of the 74 million who voted for Trump, nor their young adult offspring, would want to give their lives to defend a bunch of Americans who are "traitors, enemies of America, cheaters and commie scum? Why defend a bunch of people who have betrayed America?

Seems to me either side would logically team up with a foreign enemy and kill the real enemies to the Republic.........the other guy.........Sort of like we have seen happen in history over and over again as one empire supplants the previous.

American's have lost sight of the view that the greatness of America is not derived from redistributing the pie, but by making the pie bigger. You can't make the pie bigger when your number one enemy is 81 million fellow Americans.

Let me translate this for everyone.............................WE WERE EXPOSED AS THE ONE PARTY SYSTEM CUCKS WE ARE!!!!!!

 

[Doc]

Which party adds more to deficits?

Hint: it’s the Republicans

towardsdatascience.com

Question was which party hands out more free money, i.e. food stamps, cell phones, so on. If you have any data on that post it up please because I am sincerely asking, or I can start another thread as this one is about AZ election audit.

You linked me to a article from a Canadian site with an author talking about deficit and tax cuts.

 

[GRADS]

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That's no Trump fan there BTW.................

@squeezer
@RodnJen
@Rye
@530RL
@GRADS
@Bobby V

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[snowhammer]

Oh Oracle, you keep talking about sides and how one side wants to eliminate the other. If you had a moral compass you could understand that the audit is about truth and rule of law. With a set of virtues and morals, the findings of an honest election audit cares not so much about what "side" "won" as much as the truth being found and integrity upheld.

 

[regor]

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[530RL]

Oh Oracle, you keep talking about sides and how one side wants to eliminate the other. If you had a moral compass you could understand that the audit is about truth and rule of law. With a set of virtues and morals, the findings of an honest election audit cares not so much about what "side" "won" as much as the truth being found and integrity upheld.

Interesting tale that raises an interesting question.

If it was about truth and the rule of law, why did the Republicans hire a firm whose owner had stated his findings of facts and conclusion of law before the audit even began?

How can anyone with even a thimble sized moral compass find that consistent with the truth being found and integrity upheld?

 

[thebiz]

Interesting tale that raises an interesting question.

If it was about truth and the rule of law, why did the Republicans hire a firm whose owner had stated his findings of facts and conclusion of law before the audit even began?

How can anyone with even a thimble sized moral compass find that consistent with the truth being found and integrity upheld?

Maybe I missed it but was the “opinionated” lawyer performing the audit? No he wasn’t. Research the three companies that are actually performing the audit.

 

[regor]

Somebody is lobbying to join the Corrupt News Network and reunite with his two-faced friend..............................

 

[was thatguy]

Interesting tale that raises an interesting question.

If it was about truth and the rule of law, why did the Republicans hire a firm whose owner had stated his findings of facts and conclusion of law before the audit even began?

How can anyone with even a thimble sized moral compass find that consistent with the truth being found and integrity upheld?

Dumbass...

 

[530RL]

Maybe I missed it but was the “opinionated” lawyer performing the audit? No he wasn’t. Research the three companies that are actually performing the audit.

Doug Logan is the founder and owner of Cyber Ninjas not their lawyer. He was the one with foregone conclusions prior to even being hired.

Now if they were searching for the truth as is being argued, why hire a firm whose Founder and Owner had already made conclusions of fact and law?

 

[samsah33]

Doug Logan is the founder and owner of Cyber Ninjas not their lawyer. He was the one with foregone conclusions prior to even being hired.

Now if they were searching for the truth as is being argued, why hire a firm whose Founder and Owner had already made conclusions of fact and law?

I would be more worried about an auditor who went into this engagement assuming the election was fair and free... Standard operating procedures for an auditor is to form expectations prior to performing procedures. In auditing, bias is acceptable and professional skepticism is required.

 

[was thatguy]

Doug Logan is the founder and owner of Cyber Ninjas not their lawyer. He was the one with foregone conclusions prior to even being hired.

Now if they were searching for the truth as is being argued, why hire a firm whose Founder and Owner had already made conclusions of fact and law?

We all know your truth.
Why should we listen to you?

 

[530RL]

I would be more worried about an auditor who went into this engagement assuming the election was fair and free... Standard operating procedures for an auditor is to form expectations prior to performing procedures. In auditing, bias is acceptable and professional skepticism is required.

Doug Logan’s leadership of an audit is no more appropriate than hiring someone like Stacy Abrams to lead an audit of voting. Neither you or I would take her report as either independent or based in unbiased fact.

At the end of the day let’s see if Logan can push it past the goal line in a court of law consistent with the constitution. Otherwise it is just another partisan witch hunt.

 

[94Nautique]

That’s pretty funny from a guy who spent most of his life sitting in a corner watching.

Doubling down on Thunderbird today?

 

[94Nautique]

As the former chair of the audit committee of multiple public companies and having been on a dozen special committees of public companies relating to financial misstatements as well the historical option backdating issues I would disagree with your assessment as it is inconsistent with auditing practices for these type of investigations.

Doug Logan’s leadership of an audit is no more appropriate than hiring someone like Stacy Abrams to lead an audit of voting. Neither you or I would take her report as either independent or based in unbiased fact.

At the end of the day let’s see if Logan can push it past the goal line in a court of law consistent with the constitution. Otherwise it is just another partisan witch hunt.

Don’t hurt yourself patting your back.

 

[pronstar]

If the impartial Adam Schiff can lead the Russiagate/impeachment proceedings against Trump, then it’s comically hypocritical to question Doug Logan leading the ballot audit.


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[530RL]

If the impartial Adam Schiff can lead the Russiagage/impeachment proceedings against Trump, then it’s comically hypocritical to question Doug Logan leading the ballot audit.


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Exactly right.

Or to your point Republicans leading an impeachment proceeding against Clinton.

How could any objective person who was seeking the truth agree with any of that?

 

[4Waters]

I am in no way surprised that Biden received 80 million votes.

To believe he did not gives more credit to the American voter than I am prepared to do.

I agree, I am not surprised that he got 80mil either, that's what happens when you cheat, biden got 40mil legal votes tops, guaranteed

 

[pronstar]

Exactly right.

Or to your point Republicans leading an impeachment proceeding against Clinton.

How could any objective person who was seeking the truth agree with any of that?

Cinton’s impeachment went nowhere despite his political foes leading the proceedings.

Trumps impeachment went nowhere despite his political foes leading the proceedings.

The Left should be overjoyed that their political foes are leading the audit proceedings.


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[530RL]

Cinton’s impeachment went nowhere despite his political foes leading the proceedings.

Trumps impeachment went nowhere despite his political foes leading the proceedings.

The Left should be overjoyed that their political foes are leading the audit proceedings.


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Yep

They have all failed to deliver results. They all knew they had no real basis in fact so they did the political dance.

 

[was thatguy]

Yep

They have all failed to deliver results. They all knew they had no real basis in fact so they did the political dance.

Is that what you’re doing right now?
Ive noticed your post count has skyrocketed since the AZ audit.
Why is that?

 

[AzMandella]

Don’t hurt yourself patting your back.

Are you kidding ? He has dislocated his shoulder so many times it won't stay in anymore .

 

[Racey]

 

[samsah33]

As the former chair of the audit committee of multiple public companies and having been on a dozen special committees of public companies relating to financial misstatements as well the historical option backdating issues I would disagree with your assessment as it is inconsistent with auditing practices for these type of investigations.

Doug Logan’s leadership of an audit is no more appropriate than hiring someone like Stacy Abrams to lead an audit of voting. Neither you or I would take her report as either independent or based in unbiased fact.

At the end of the day let’s see if Logan can push it past the goal line in a court of law consistent with the constitution. Otherwise it is just another partisan witch hunt.

...and I've sat on juries so I guess that qualifies me to criticize legal strategies... There is nothing unethical about Logan and his firm auditing election results or the procedures that they're performing (...and yes, I am an auditor w/ a deep understanding of GAAS...). Abrams is a politician and has held voter registration events and drives, so that alone would impair her independence. Regardless of process and procedures, this is an audit of an election, so by definition it is inherently partisan and has already been portrayed by the media as a witch hunt.

As I've said before, the real risk to me is ineligible people voting, and this audit does nothing to address that risk so I am not hopeful that anything will come of it. I also hope I'm wrong.

 

[Racey]

...and I've sat on juries so I guess that qualifies me to criticize legal strategies... There is nothing unethical about Logan and his firm auditing election results or the procedures that they're performing (...and yes, I am an auditor w/ a deep understanding of GAAS...). Abrams is a politician and has held voter registration events and drives, so that alone would impair her independence. Regardless of process and procedures, this is an audit of an election, so by definition it is inherently partisan and has already been portrayed by the media as a witch hunt.

As I've said before, the real risk to me is ineligible people voting, and this audit does nothing to address that risk so I am not hopeful that anything will come of it. I also hope I'm wrong.

Don't bother trying to make sense of the mental gymnastics

 

[Racey]

Ooooooooooooooh, okaaaaaaaaaay.......

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Keep doubling down boy, it's a good fit for you!!!

Go back and look at all the posts 530 made on the Mueller investigation, and how it needs to be as big as necessary to "find the truth"

Now all of a sudden a simple ballot audit is "partisan"

The transformation into clown solidified long ago.

 

[regor]

Go back and look at all the posts 530 made on the Mueller investigation, and how it needs to be as big as necessary to "find the truth"

Now all of a sudden a simple ballot audit is "partisan"

The transformation into clown solidified long ago.

Just another butt hurt shameless fool of our little twilight zone known as the P&G............................

 

[94Nautique]

Go back and look at all the posts 530 made on the Mueller investigation, and how it needs to be as big as necessary to "find the truth"

Now all of a sudden a simple ballot audit is "partisan"

The transformation into clown solidified long ago.

Clown is an understatement...

 

[dnewps]

As the former chair of the audit committee of multiple public companies and having been on a dozen special committees of public companies relating to financial misstatements as well the historical option backdating issues I would disagree with your assessment as it is inconsistent with auditing practices for these type of investigations.

Doug Logan’s leadership of an audit is no more appropriate than hiring someone like Stacy Abrams to lead an audit of voting. Neither you or I would take her report as either independent or based in unbiased fact.

At the end of the day let’s see if Logan can push it past the goal line in a court of law consistent with the constitution. Otherwise it is just another partisan witch hunt.

The point is to find the receipts, make appropriate changes for 2022, and flush the dementia patient’s political capital. The National socialist party is not cooperating with democracy or transparency.

 

[regor]

Colorado's skeered..........................

 

[SNiC Jet]

..........is the exact reason why the American experiment is over and a failure.

It may be "over and failed" for you.....But IMO, America is not "over and a failure" until Patriots stop fighting for it.

 

[was thatguy]

Go back and look at all the posts 530 made on the Mueller investigation, and how it needs to be as big as necessary to "find the truth"

Now all of a sudden a simple ballot audit is "partisan"

The transformation into clown solidified long ago.

So damned true.
Still so fascinating seeing a once rational, seemingly very intelligent source of knowledge just lose his fucking mind because of TDS.
It started before the primary when Trump got traction, and accelerated at a phenomenal rate of speed.

 

[t&y]

Any official results released?

 

[regor]

Any official results released?

No

 

[Racey]

California Exported Activists to Cure Ballots in Arizona, Georgia in Days Following Election

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