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Have they fixed the astronomical rate of depreciation of European cars? Ive been out of the industry for a few years, it used to be a real deal breaker.
 

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Every vehicle has a "feel" to it as far as how the suspension is set up, gearing, shift points etc. Going into it deeper they all have various different interiors, seat foam/springs/material down to how adjustable the steering column is and how you personally fit into the vehicle.

They are all very different from each other, and try to keep it that way, so every time you get into a BMW or Mercedes or Cadillac you have that same (or very close to) sensation when you drive it.

They are all pretty comparable as far as warranties and longevity.

Brand loyalty is created that way, once you like and get used to one, nothing will scratch that itch but another one just like it, but newer. :D

I drive so many different cars each year, if I had to pick one, it would be tough, since I get to drive a majority of what is on the road every year. I have some pretty great clients!.
 

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Have they fixed the astronomical rate of depreciation of European cars? Ive been out of the industry for a few years, it used to be a real deal breaker.

I appreciate your sentiment. It's that line of thinking that allowed many if not most of us to get to where we are today, financially speaking. However ----
Most of us are not going to live forever :eek: A shit load of us on here own boats and piss away many many thousands in order to enjoy them and the associated life style. :) So yes, as we can all be frugal, we also have the ability to override that instinct and just say F---K It, buy it, drive it like ya stole it and no regrets. :D
So no, at this stage of life the last thing I worry about is vehicle depreciation ;)
Nope, but the first thing I look for and at the top of my vehicle priority list is --- How my aging ass likes the seat, lol :p

Disclaimer --- This is not the advise I offer to my 40+ Y.O. children, I expect better of them :p
 

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530rl, if you had purchased a Lambo you would not need the extended warranty:]! Most interesting all Lambos are unlimited mileage warranties, 3 years.


Not that it really matters but Ferrari, similar to Lamborghini, is also 3 years bumper to bumper unlimited miles. Even for the new 812 and Pista on order. The additional warranty that cost 7500 bucks is for the additional 4 years. I suspect Volkswagen.....errrr.... Lamborghini has a similar program.

However, unlike lamborghini's, Ferrari has 7 years free maintenance. And to be fair, a Ferrari is really just an overpriced Fiat..... :)

Wonder what that 7 years of maintenance will cost on a lamborghini? :)

In any event, first world problems.

Back to the original topic, I still would buy the maintenance program on an Audi which is interestingly free for three years on BMW's....or to be fair.....included in the base price.

My wife's Audi grocery getter has been a great car but at 5 years old and 25,000 miles......she wants a new car....
 
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Have they fixed the astronomical rate of depreciation of European cars? Ive been out of the industry for a few years, it used to be a real deal breaker.

No.
The majority of them depreciate like used hand grenades.

If you are going to keep it forever and love on it who cares.

If you are going to lease it who cares - you dump it back anyway.

If you are going to roll out in 6+ out of warranty and need to get back into something and use your paid of rig as a down -
- you are in for a beating

UD
 

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Car looks great, love the color but I’m a little bias to red. Hope everything went good with the purchase today.
 
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We just got home had to stop off for a few tacos and cold ones on the way home.
Things went well she took it for a drive and came back with a really big smile!

We ended up getting a 7year 110,ooo mile warranty and a tire /wheel warranty for 5 years any damage / road hazard etc and it gets replaced for 60 months. We had a problem with her current car 32 days after buying and had a tire go bad, no spare, rim got slightly bent they gave us a new tire but we bought a new wheel, so now we actually have a full size spare tire for her old car...

We arrived at the dealer at 7:30 and things looked clean, but I didn’t really walk around much. We were out at 8:15 signed off and paid in full!
Very happy so far!

Thank you all for your input, opinions and experiences!

I’ll post a pic in a minute
 

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Car looks orange but it’s the sun sitting low, this is one sweet ride!
 

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That is a good price for Ferrari maintenance in warranty for seven years. It cost me under $500 a year for maintenance.
 

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That is a good price for Ferrari maintenance in warranty for seven years. It cost me under $500 a year for maintenance.


Your point is valid.

500 bucks times 7 years is immaterial compared to purchase price given the average option order on an F car is over 50k.

I love the Huracan. Really nice car. But once you are in the F system, if you don't keep buying stuff, you don't get the good limited production stuff whether it be cars, paddock passes to F1 races or the 24 hours of Daytona. The F cars are very dependable now. My buddy has 80k miles on an FF with door dents and all. Great car.

First world problems.........

I'd still buy the maintenance program the Audi if I was DLC.
 

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Lexus makes a great product, but I'm not sure what demographic they're focusing on now ?[/QUOTE]

Wealthy people who want a luxury car with minimal ownership costs.


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Lexus makes a great product, but I'm not sure what demographic they're focusing on now ?

Wealthy people who want a luxury car with minimal ownership costs.


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I think you might mean "Wealthy Non-Car people" who are willing (Or don't know) to pay double or triple Toyota service rates so they can whack a few golf balls at a screen while drinking their latte and get treated with more dignity befitting their achieved or perceived life status. :rolleyes:
My wife has driven a Lexus since 1990 not because I wanted her to, because SHE wanted to and 90% of that desire came from how she was treated at the dealership, not the vehicle itself. The glaring exception was her first one -- a 1990 LS 400, that car amazed and impressed me like no other I've ever owned. Certainly not the fastest I've owned, or best handling, but hands down the best in almost every "Comfort" and "Quality" category. That singular vehicle along with how the dealership treated her, got my wife hooked like some CarWooWooVoodoo addiction. Equally impressed with the LS I never balked at her continuing choices, plus we know the "Happy Wife -- life" motto, lol :D
But let me tell you, come service time, those service writers were never ever happy to see me walk in, especially back in the day when they were pushing every treatment and additive they could hustle out of their mostly naive customers.
Pretty interesting how much I got knocked off most service visits by nicely and respectfully calling BS and pushing back.
In truth we had on the average as many new car warranty claims and repairs as most any Ford or Chevy truck I've owned, but they weren't major components, just piss poor quality regardless. This is why unlike many on here, I'm not overly enamored with Toyota, they put cheap shit on their cars and trucks and their shit breaks too.
The one thing I couldn't help but notice with Lexus loaner vehicles and quite frankly got a real chuckle out of, is how beat to shit they are. Almost new loaner vehicle, maybe 3K miles and somehow that thing had gotten bumped or scratched on each corner already.
For me that was the true indicator of who was buying and driving Lexus vehicles.
So far with the Audi we've received the same excellent dealer experience and not suffered from any less quality. And you know what --- the Audi loaners we get don't come pre-dented, lol :D I think there's a message there about who drives Audi's compared to who drives Lexus's ;)

I will say one thing --- if Lexus truly wants to sell luxury, they better re-hire the original seat designer because it's obvious friggin Japanese millennials never rode in the first LS or are accustomed to sitting on rocks :mad: Audi wins in that department hands down !!
 

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Wealthy people who want a luxury car with minimal ownership costs.


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I think you might mean "Wealthy Non-Car people" who are willing (Or don't know) to pay double or triple Toyota service rates so they can whack a few golf balls at a screen while drinking their latte and get treated with more dignity befitting their achieved or perceived life status. :rolleyes:
My wife has driven a Lexus since 1990 not because I wanted her to, because SHE wanted to and 90% of that desire came from how she was treated at the dealership, not the vehicle itself. The glaring exception was her first one -- a 1990 LS 400, that car amazed and impressed me like no other I've ever owned. Certainly not the fastest I've owned, or best handling, but hands down the best in almost every "Comfort" and "Quality" category. That singular vehicle along with how the dealership treated her, got my wife hooked like some CarWooWooVoodoo addiction. Equally impressed with the LS I never balked at her continuing choices, plus we know the "Happy Wife -- life" motto, lol :D
But let me tell you, come service time, those service writers were never ever happy to see me walk in, especially back in the day when they were pushing every treatment and additive they could hustle out of their mostly naive customers.
Pretty interesting how much I got knocked off most service visits by nicely and respectfully calling BS and pushing back.
In truth we had on the average as many new car warranty claims and repairs as most any Ford or Chevy truck I've owned, but they weren't major components, just piss poor quality regardless. This is why unlike many on here, I'm not overly enamored with Toyota, they put cheap shit on their cars and trucks and their shit breaks too.
The one thing I couldn't help but notice with Lexus loaner vehicles and quite frankly got a real chuckle out of, is how beat to shit they are. Almost new loaner vehicle, maybe 3K miles and somehow that thing had gotten bumped or scratched on each corner already.
For me that was the true indicator of who was buying and driving Lexus vehicles.
So far with the Audi we've received the same excellent dealer experience and not suffered from any less quality. And you know what --- the Audi loaners we get don't come pre-dented, lol :D I think there's a message there about who drives Audi's compared to who drives Lexus's ;)

I will say one thing --- if Lexus truly wants to sell luxury, they better re-hire the original seat designer because it's obvious friggin Japanese millennials never rode in the first LS or are accustomed to sitting on rocks :mad: Audi wins in that department hands down !![/QUOTE]


Haha! I call them sole less vehicles. I get it though. Many people buy expensive things for accomplishment trophies. Toyota, I mean Lexus fills that niche very well.

Our Q7 is impressive for what it is and my interactions with Audi in both purchasing & service have been stellar.

Same with my BMW 550i. It’s got the msport pkg and its a sleeper hot rod. Aside from the way the car handles the bolstered seats hold you in like a glove. I really want a 911 but nothing says your gonna get screwed like a real estateguy in a 911. Lol!
 

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Wealthy people who want a luxury car with minimal ownership costs.


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I think you might mean "Wealthy Non-Car people" who are willing (Or don't know) to pay double or triple Toyota service rates so they can whack a few golf balls at a screen while drinking their latte and get treated with more dignity befitting their achieved or perceived life status. :rolleyes:
My wife has driven a Lexus since 1990 not because I wanted her to, because SHE wanted to and 90% of that desire came from how she was treated at the dealership, not the vehicle itself. The glaring exception was her first one -- a 1990 LS 400, that car amazed and impressed me like no other I've ever owned. Certainly not the fastest I've owned, or best handling, but hands down the best in almost every "Comfort" and "Quality" category. That singular vehicle along with how the dealership treated her, got my wife hooked like some CarWooWooVoodoo addiction. Equally impressed with the LS I never balked at her continuing choices, plus we know the "Happy Wife -- life" motto, lol :D
But let me tell you, come service time, those service writers were never ever happy to see me walk in, especially back in the day when they were pushing every treatment and additive they could hustle out of their mostly naive customers.
Pretty interesting how much I got knocked off most service visits by nicely and respectfully calling BS and pushing back.
In truth we had on the average as many new car warranty claims and repairs as most any Ford or Chevy truck I've owned, but they weren't major components, just piss poor quality regardless. This is why unlike many on here, I'm not overly enamored with Toyota, they put cheap shit on their cars and trucks and their shit breaks too.
The one thing I couldn't help but notice with Lexus loaner vehicles and quite frankly got a real chuckle out of, is how beat to shit they are. Almost new loaner vehicle, maybe 3K miles and somehow that thing had gotten bumped or scratched on each corner already.
For me that was the true indicator of who was buying and driving Lexus vehicles.
So far with the Audi we've received the same excellent dealer experience and not suffered from any less quality. And you know what --- the Audi loaners we get don't come pre-dented, lol :D I think there's a message there about who drives Audi's compared to who drives Lexus's ;)

I will say one thing --- if Lexus truly wants to sell luxury, they better re-hire the original seat designer because it's obvious friggin Japanese millennials never rode in the first LS or are accustomed to sitting on rocks :mad: Audi wins in that department hands down !![/QUOTE]


Haha! I call them sole less vehicles. I get it though. Many people buy expensive things for accomplishment trophies. Toyota, I mean Lexus fills that niche very well.

Our Q7 is impressive for what it is and my interactions with Audi in both purchasing & service have been stellar.

Same with my BMW 550i. It’s got the msport pkg and its a sleeper hot rod. Aside from the way the car handles the bolstered seats hold you in like a glove. I really want a 911 but nothing says your gonna get screwed like a real estateguy in a 911. Lol!
 

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I think you might mean "Wealthy Non-Car people" who are willing (Or don't know) to pay double or triple Toyota service rates so they can whack a few golf balls at a screen while drinking their latte and get treated with more dignity befitting their achieved or perceived life status. :rolleyes:
My wife has driven a Lexus since 1990 not because I wanted her to, because SHE wanted to and 90% of that desire came from how she was treated at the dealership, not the vehicle itself. The glaring exception was her first one -- a 1990 LS 400, that car amazed and impressed me like no other I've ever owned. Certainly not the fastest I've owned, or best handling, but hands down the best in almost every "Comfort" and "Quality" category. That singular vehicle along with how the dealership treated her, got my wife hooked like some CarWooWooVoodoo addiction. Equally impressed with the LS I never balked at her continuing choices, plus we know the "Happy Wife -- life" motto, lol :D
But let me tell you, come service time, those service writers were never ever happy to see me walk in, especially back in the day when they were pushing every treatment and additive they could hustle out of their mostly naive customers.
Pretty interesting how much I got knocked off most service visits by nicely and respectfully calling BS and pushing back.
In truth we had on the average as many new car warranty claims and repairs as most any Ford or Chevy truck I've owned, but they weren't major components, just piss poor quality regardless. This is why unlike many on here, I'm not overly enamored with Toyota, they put cheap shit on their cars and trucks and their shit breaks too.
The one thing I couldn't help but notice with Lexus loaner vehicles and quite frankly got a real chuckle out of, is how beat to shit they are. Almost new loaner vehicle, maybe 3K miles and somehow that thing had gotten bumped or scratched on each corner already.
For me that was the true indicator of who was buying and driving Lexus vehicles.
So far with the Audi we've received the same excellent dealer experience and not suffered from any less quality. And you know what --- the Audi loaners we get don't come pre-dented, lol :D I think there's a message there about who drives Audi's compared to who drives Lexus's ;)

I will say one thing --- if Lexus truly wants to sell luxury, they better re-hire the original seat designer because it's obvious friggin Japanese millennials never rode in the first LS or are accustomed to sitting on rocks :mad: Audi wins in that department hands down !!


Haha! I call them sole less vehicles. I get it though. Many people buy expensive things for accomplishment trophies. Toyota, I mean Lexus fills that niche very well.

Our Q7 is impressive for what it is and my interactions with Audi in both purchasing & service have been stellar.

Same with my BMW 550i. It’s got the msport pkg and its a sleeper hot rod. Aside from the way the car handles the bolstered seats hold you in like a glove. I really want a 911 but nothing says your gonna get screwed like a real estateguy in a 911. Lol![/QUOTE]

Which one to respond to ? --- eenie meany miney moe, whoops can't say that anymore, lol :eek:


I can't argue with the soul less point, although I swear, if they still made (And or I could afford in today's prices) the original LS400 I'd buy one just for river trips. I drove that thing with only a couple of stops from San Diego to Portland OR. and when I got to OR I felt like I'd just driven a few miles, rather than beaten with a bat :( The other really fun Lexus was my wife's stick shift IS300, that was a hoot to drive fast. Used to chase Mustangs through the canyons with that puppy. After that, the line up got confusing, more like trying to appeal to everybody, but nobody in particular. I still find their cars like that 20 years later.
The last one was a GX470, no identity crisis there, it was a luxury 4Runner, we bought for travels to our ranch and it could tow.

Anyway, I get the Porsche 911 as a work car "Symbol". Years ago the company owner replaced his BMW740 for a new vroom vroom super Carrera, timing was right for a kinda mid-life crisis thing. Didn't keep it long, so I inquired why ? Seems he was getting a lot of "Oh, well aren't you making tons of money" kinda flack from various customers. :mad: Oddly they never said shit while driving his 740, but the Porsche brought certainly stirred some emotions. Went back to a 740 and status quo was reestablished.
 

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Haha! I call them sole less vehicles. I get it though. Many people buy expensive things for accomplishment trophies. Toyota, I mean Lexus fills that niche very well.

Our Q7 is impressive for what it is and my interactions with Audi in both purchasing & service have been stellar.

Same with my BMW 550i. It’s got the msport pkg and its a sleeper hot rod. Aside from the way the car handles the bolstered seats hold you in like a glove. I really want a 911 but nothing says your gonna get screwed like a real estateguy in a 911. Lol!

Which one to respond to ? --- eenie meany miney moe, whoops can't say that anymore, lol :eek:


I can't argue with the soul less point, although I swear, if they still made (And or I could afford in today's prices) the original LS400 I'd buy one just for river trips. I drove that thing with only a couple of stops from San Diego to Portland OR. and when I got to OR I felt like I'd just driven a few miles, rather than beaten with a bat :( The other really fun Lexus was my wife's stick shift IS300, that was a hoot to drive fast. Used to chase Mustangs through the canyons with that puppy. After that, the line up got confusing, more like trying to appeal to everybody, but nobody in particular. I still find their cars like that 20 years later.
The last one was a GX470, no identity crisis there, it was a luxury 4Runner, we bought for travels to our ranch and it could tow.

Anyway, I get the Porsche 911 as a work car "Symbol". Years ago the company owner replaced his BMW740 for a new vroom vroom super Carrera, timing was right for a kinda mid-life crisis thing. Didn't keep it long, so I inquired why ? Seems he was getting a lot of "Oh, well aren't you making tons of money" kinda flack from various customers. :mad: Oddly they never said shit while driving his 740, but the Porsche brought certainly stirred some emotions. Went back to a 740 and status quo was reestablished.[/QUOTE]


Haha! It’s a real bitch. I absolutely love Porsche. Been to and toured the factory in Stugartt, rented a 911 S in Germany and tapped it out on the autobahn 300 kph. My wife doesn’t get it although after my recent interest ina Ducati she asked why not a Porsche? Lol!

I’ve even considered changing careers. Do Porsche salesmen do well?
 

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Which one to respond to ? --- eenie meany miney moe, whoops can't say that anymore, lol :eek:


I can't argue with the soul less point, although I swear, if they still made (And or I could afford in today's prices) the original LS400 I'd buy one just for river trips. I drove that thing with only a couple of stops from San Diego to Portland OR. and when I got to OR I felt like I'd just driven a few miles, rather than beaten with a bat :( The other really fun Lexus was my wife's stick shift IS300, that was a hoot to drive fast. Used to chase Mustangs through the canyons with that puppy. After that, the line up got confusing, more like trying to appeal to everybody, but nobody in particular. I still find their cars like that 20 years later.
The last one was a GX470, no identity crisis there, it was a luxury 4Runner, we bought for travels to our ranch and it could tow.

Anyway, I get the Porsche 911 as a work car "Symbol". Years ago the company owner replaced his BMW740 for a new vroom vroom super Carrera, timing was right for a kinda mid-life crisis thing. Didn't keep it long, so I inquired why ? Seems he was getting a lot of "Oh, well aren't you making tons of money" kinda flack from various customers. :mad: Oddly they never said shit while driving his 740, but the Porsche brought certainly stirred some emotions. Went back to a 740 and status quo was reestablished.


Haha! It’s a real bitch. I absolutely love Porsche. Been to and toured the factory in Stugartt, rented a 911 S in Germany and tapped it out on the autobahn 300 kph. My wife doesn’t get it although after my recent interest ina Ducati she asked why not a Porsche? Lol!

I’ve even considered changing careers. Do Porsche salesmen do well?[/QUOTE]

Damn, I see what you did there, hmmm, I like it !! :D Yes, I'm sure my wife would respond similarly if I suddenly got the urge for a Ducati. :eek:
Although I kinda blew that ploy a few years back when I jumped on some Ninja machine in a showroom, then somehow despite my bad hip I got my feet positioned back up on the pegs, then my bad hip refused to give in inch in order to get my one foot free, so there I hung, locked in and feeling damned helpless :( Just as I was about to give the order for her to tip me over so I could crawl off on the ground, one more painful attempt and I was free at last :D Salesman very tactfully suggested I look at the cruiser models, LOL :D
 

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Haha! It’s a real bitch. I absolutely love Porsche. Been to and toured the factory in Stugartt, rented a 911 S in Germany and tapped it out on the autobahn 300 kph. My wife doesn’t get it although after my recent interest ina Ducati she asked why not a Porsche? Lol!

I’ve even considered changing careers. Do Porsche salesmen do well?

Damn, I see what you did there, hmmm, I like it !! :D Yes, I'm sure my wife would respond similarly if I suddenly got the urge for a Ducati. :eek:
Although I kinda blew that ploy a few years back when I jumped on some Ninja machine in a showroom, then somehow despite my bad hip I got my feet positioned back up on the pegs, then my bad hip refused to give in inch in order to get my one foot free, so there I hung, locked in and feeling damned helpless :( Just as I was about to give the order for her to tip me over so I could crawl off on the ground, one more painful attempt and I was free at last :D Salesman very tactfully suggested I look at the cruiser models, LOL :D[/QUOTE]


Lol! Oh noooo!!! :D Lmao!

She say I can have a 911 when I finish the back yard remodel but I’m not sure how I fit it into my garage let alone life right now unless I get a new job where I don’t need a accountability car #bmw:eek:

Did you get my soleless joke! Lol! Fast cars rotate/turn with throttle input. :D
 

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OK Cdog
" Did you get my soleless joke! Lol! Fast cars rotate/turn with throttle input. :D "
No, I must admit although good and clever, it went whoosh right over my head, got me !!
And here I was being nice and not correcting your spelling error, HA HA HA HA --- sure glad or I'd have had even more brown on my face LOL !!
I think the key to selling Porsche is practicing and being able to call up on an instant that special facial expression and body language when some undeserving fool inquires about how much you can discount that new Porsche :rolleyes: As a customer it leaves you feeling extremely special, in a "Short Bus" way :p
 

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Funny insinuating Lexus cars are Toyotas. Then going on about Audis...

The parallels between Audi/VW and Lexus/Toyota are quite similar in actuality.

Not making a value judgement, it is what it is.

If you have a bad dealer/service experience, or crappy loner cars, that’s in the dealership, not the factory. Same with any carmaker.

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Funny insinuating Lexus cars are Toyotas. Then going on about Audis...

The parallels between Audi/VW and Lexus/Toyota are quite similar in actuality.

Not making a value judgement, it is what it is.

If you have a bad dealer/service experience, or crappy loner cars, that’s in the dealership, not the factory. Same with any carmaker.

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Drive one in a performance setting. You’ll understand. Even the cheapest Audi cars have the feeling in the chassis.
 

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Drive one in a performance setting. You’ll understand. Even the cheapest Audi cars have the feeling in the chassis.

You keep quoting me and making statements that have nothing to do with what I posted.


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Funny insinuating Lexus cars are Toyotas. Then going on about Audis...

The parallels between Audi/VW and Lexus/Toyota are quite similar in actuality.

Not making a value judgement, it is what it is.

If you have a bad dealer/service experience, or crappy loner cars, that’s in the dealership, not the factory. Same with any carmaker.

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I'm guessing you're responding to my bit of a Lexus rant :rolleyes: Don't read to much between the lines. The fact we owned five different models over 25 years doesn't scream we were unhappy customers.
But the fact they recently lost us as customers after all those years should cause somebody at Lexus to ask why ? The answer is simple really, they put more attention into building cars targeting a new and different buyer market while sacrificing the long term loyal ones. We didn't leave because another car lured us away. We left in search of another, after discovering there was nothing in the lineup to keep us.
Yes we're fully aware of all the various model parallels. My wife wouldn't be caught driving a VW, yet will leap into a similar Audi model, go figure :confused:

Oh, and the Lexus loaners weren't crappy, they were almost new, interiors immaculate, yet the corners had dings :confused: Parking lot bumper car perhaps ? Hell even the service guy used to laugh his ass off about it. I often wondered what these customer's own cars looked liked :p

I'm an old baby boomer, I've gotten used to being slowly phased out of the market. ;)
 

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Given your age, maybe it is time to switch to a Buick...... :) :)



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Shit yes, I'd drive that bitch for sure !!
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If they make it, I'll be checking it out for sure. Ass end looks like one of my all time favorites --- Aston Martin and front end kinda Jag like --- damn !!.
Almost as pretty as my 65' Riviera that I regretfully sold to a collector in Fresno.
 

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I'm an old baby boomer, I've gotten used to being slowly phased out of the market. ;)

The Harley thread is a good indicator of how reliance on an aging demographic is a great way to become irrelevant.

It’s unfortunate, but true.

There’s a saying:
You can sell an old man, a young man’s car.
But you can’t sell a young man, an old man’s car.



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The Harley thread is a good indicator of how reliance on an aging demographic is a great way to become irrelevant.

It’s unfortunate, but true.

There’s a saying:
You can sell an old man, a young man’s car.
But you can’t sell a young man, an old man’s car.



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I get the message and I guess the Raptor, Hennessey Camaro and SQ5, prove your point. Which leads me to believe that Lexus is targeting liberals :rolleyes:
 

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I used to be a "never buy an out of warranty German car" guy. Then I got my 911, a car that is almost 20 years old but is still in like new condition. Granted, it has only 66K miles but everything about it, the way the doors close, the switchgear, the interior, etc is still tight and the way it drives is just amazing.

I now also have a 10 year old Audi that is the same. I recently did an APR tune on it and man, is it fun to drive!

Maintenance is definitely more on German cars but I think they have this certain untangle feel and build quality that makes them worth the extra money.
 

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I used to be a "never buy an out of warranty German car" guy. Then I got my 911, a car that is almost 20 years old but is still in like new condition. Granted, it has only 66K miles but everything about it, the way the doors close, the switchgear, the interior, etc is still tight and the way it drives is just amazing.

I now also have a 10 year old Audi that is the same. I recently did an APR tune on it and man, is it fun to drive!

Maintenance is definitely more on German cars but I think they have this certain untangle feel and build quality that makes them worth the extra money.

It is all in the assembly line. You get a tues, wed, thurs vehicle, you are golden, it's the mon and fri cars that are shit.

I kid, somewhat... German stuff is held to a pretty high standard, so they are generally built better. Once you get used to high end vehicles of any manufacturer, it's hard to drive a prius. :D
 

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911’s are generally pretty bulletproof. But service costs can be high.

Except my BIL’s 40th anniversary edition that caught fire while he was driving it - right after being serviced at a dealer - and burned to the ground.

Goes to show that sometimes shit just happens, even to the best of ‘em.


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