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If I read correctly, the most powerful rocket to ever leave earth, 8.8 million pounds of thrust.
 

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This is going to be BEAUTIFUL over the East Coast of Florida!!
 

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If I read correctly, the most powerful rocket to ever leave earth, 8.8 million pounds of thrust.
What's crazy is 50 years ago the Apollo rockets had 7.61 million pounds of thrust. 8.8 million is impressive but 7.6 million with slide rulers, pencil and paper is.....

This rocket would be cool to watch live
 

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So 11 years, 25 billion dollars, the bulk made from leftover parts (engines etc) from the space shuttle (all designed in the 70s). Estimated 4 billion per launch....

I doubt this thing will launch, it will probably be scrubbed again like 2 months ago.

Meanwhile in the 11 years they spent desiging this thing, with the luxury of already having the motors made, Elon built rockets completely from scratch and figured out how to land them and reuse, all for about 1% of the cost per launch. 50 million per launch.

NASA is a joke, this is what happens when you divert the budgets to clinate change and diversity over actual technology and advancement.
 

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So 11 years, 25 billion dollars, the bulk made from leftover parts (engines etc) from the space shuttle (all designed in the 70s). Estimated 4 billion per launch....

I doubt this thing will launch, it will probably be scrubbed again like 2 months ago.

Meanwhile in the 11 years they spent desiging this thing, with the luxury of already having the motors made, Elon built rockets completely from scratch and figured out how to land them and reuse, all for about 1% of the cost per launch. 50 million per launch.

NASA is a joke, this is what happens when you divert the budgets to clinate change and diversity over actual technology and advancement.
Oh, don't be such a negative nanny😂
 

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I hope they Launch. This needs to be more wide reported on. they are all about S.T.E.M. this launch is all about that. SpaceX launches need to be more widely televised too for the same reason
 

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What's crazy is 50 years ago the Apollo rockets had 7.61 million pounds of thrust. 8.8 million is impressive but 7.6 million with slide rulers, pencil and paper is.....

This rocket would be cool to watch live
I love discussing the Apollo program.

The five Rocketdyne F-1 engines powering the Saturn V first stage consumed 6,000 lbs of liquid oxygen and RP-1 purified kerosene propellant per second. The first stage burned for 205 seconds after liftoff. The gas generators on each engine, a sort of giant turbocharger that burned the same fuel as the engines, each produced 45,000 horsepower, which was used to power the LOX and RP-1 turbopumps that fed fuel to the engines.

This is a video of a gas generator test firing in the open. This is what turned the turbine that ran the pumps!


The Apollo V engine start sequence explained:


F-1-Gas-Generator-1.jpg
 
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It will be a spectacular explosion and NASA will get out of the launch business.

They can design and build all the satellites they want and spacex can launch them.

All that friggin money for a Frankenstein launch platform? That isn’t standing on the shoulders of giants, it’s cheating and not even coming out ahead. Give the next 4 billion to spacex.
 

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It will be a spectacular explosion and NASA will get out of the launch business.

They can design and build all the satellites they want and spacex can launch them.

All that friggin money for a Frankenstein launch platform? That isn’t standing on the shoulders of giants, it’s cheating and not even coming out ahead. Give the next 4 billion to spacex.
Your not wrong the Obama administration screwed the whole thing up and then you add NASA and their bureaucracy and it will be a miracle if it works
 

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On hold because of a bad ethernet switch... Im shocked.
Apparently you don’t have a government job. In such a job, the 1% chance of failure in a corporate environment becomes a 99% chance of failure in a government environment. And where that 1% success rate is most likely because the management took the day off.
 

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Ol Gene Kranz would of made sure he could be heard by everyone before trying to speak unlike the women director they have now embarrassing NASA
 

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Hells Bay Boats is located in Titusville, Florida. They are a small manufacturer who focuses on building lightweight quality fishing skiffs. Years ago, they had a picture in a sales brochure that was awesome! There was a guy up on the bow of one of their boats (Flip Pallot maybe??), who was flyfishing on Mosquito Lagoon. He was being poled on the skiff by someone else whom I can't remember. Anyhow, they timed the photo shoot with a Space Shuttle launching from Cape Canaveral. It left an impression if I can remember it all these years later!
 

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Did they land the rockets after the launch?
 

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Did they land the rockets after the launch?

Lol no, they are in the ocean.

They may recover the tanks the but engines are gonna be junk after a bath in salt

The SRBs are just tubes with no real mechanics, the main section is a series of giant tanks on top of space shuttle motors
 

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Lol no, they are in the ocean.

They may recover the tanks the but engines are gonna be junk after a bath in salt

The SRBs are just tubes with no real mechanics, the main section is a series of giant tanks on top of space shuttle motors
They use stainless and aluminum to recycle the engines 😅
 

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Well at least we only have to wait like four more years for the next launch.

In four years time spacex might be working on their NX-01 for Mars missions while NASA is still trying to human certify the disposable firework.
 

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Should have never shutdown the shuttle program
Well the shuttle program was its own issues. Designed in the 70s, a very fixed/rigid design that isn’t big enough for a lot of the current jobs, the shuttle itself was a maintenance nightmare, and it really couldn’t adapt.

It was a great system but dancing on the razors edge too many times is not recommended.
 

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6 minutes into the flight and it's doing 10,000 miles per hour . . . :oops::oops::oops:
Gotta remember this stack is almost exactly the same as the shuttle stack, but adding a 4th shuttle main engine and removing the weight and drag of the orbiter vehicle.

So yeah it’s going to haul ass compared to the typical shuttle launch.
 

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Burning bucks as fast as they can! 2 more tests before moon landing! -- stupid!
 
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