Any doctors or others in the house? Need so help with ADHD and meds.

[HNL2LHC]

As the title says looking for some advise on ADHD and meds. Also might be exploding options in the Phoenix area. Anyone that has exposure it would be great to connect. PM would be best and we can go from there. Anyone that has any general experience advise post up if you like. Appreciate the help in advance.

 

[TPC]

We have one special needs child that the wife has to get the meds from Canada, and we're exploring the Q crossing/Algodones Baja pharmacies. Got a tip where to now go there. Our last pharmacy there was accused of selling fake meds. We'll give it another go at the recommended pharmacy.

I'll ask the wife when she wakes later on.

We had to put the kid in a special facility and he didn't like the meds they gave him. He wanted the Canada bootleg stuff instead. Lots of drama with that episode.

 

[Mike Honcho]

My so. Was diagnosed when he was younger roughly 8 ish doc’s put him on starters and all it did was make him sleepy and dose off in class. We stopped it and spoke to someone who had a different approach so he drank a half cup of black coffee each am before school and they it started to wear off and we incorporated diet Mountain Dew half way through the day via a doc script and that allowed him To function.

Daughter got hooked on typical crap handed out in college (adderal) which acts as a form of speed and has several other bad side effects.

So many kids taking these type of drugs for the wrong reason so please be careful maybe ask about the homeopathic path ( not normally a fan of the nutty crunchy way) but the alternative may be worth exploring.
Good luck

 

[rivermobster]

My son, when in grammar school, went from all D's to all A's.

I fought him going on that shit the best I could, but the results spoke for themselves.

By 10th grade, he didn't need it anymore. I really think martial arts and Boy Scouts had a lot to do with getting him off of the meds.

 

[rrrr]

Not even close to the OP's ask, but if you have a child, and that child ever expresses any desire to be a pilot, do not allow a diagnosis of ADHD to be placed in any medical records, period. Don't allow a physician to lazily prescribe Adderall for your kid.

The FAA considers a diagnosis of ADHD to be a lifetime barrier to receiving a medical, and therefore a pilot certificate. It can only be rectified through spending thousands of dollars on FAA approved psychologists, cog screens, and paperwork madness that can take years to overcome. It will have to be proven the initial diagnosis was in error, a huge hurdle.

There's no doubt the diagnosis benefits some children. I'm just making everyone aware of the hidden pitfalls.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Not even close to the OP's ask, but if you have a child, and that child ever expresses any desire to be a pilot, do not allow a diagnosis of ADHD to be placed in any medical records, period. Don't allow a physician to lazily prescribe Adderall for your kid.

The FAA considers a diagnosis of ADHD to be a lifetime barrier to receiving a medical, and therefore a pilot certificate. It can only be rectified through spending thousands of dollars on FAA approved psychologists, cog screens, and paperwork madness that can take years to overcome. It will have to be proven the initial diagnosis was in error, a huge hurdle.

There's no doubt the diagnosis benefits some children. I'm just making everyone aware of the hidden pitfalls.

Good to know. The concern is that it seams like some doctors just like to push the meds. Trying to figure out what is the right direction to take. starting the whole process with a different mindset. Thank you to all that has posted or reached out. Very helpful to have people that have navigated the challenge rather than searching the internet.

 

[rivrrts429]

My son is special needs. He’s non-verbal so difficult to know exactly what his challenges are day-to-day but at 21 years old you learn as a parent his ques.

Doctors were pill pushers. It was driving me nuts. I took a deep dive and went the diet route. Food is basically manufactured poison today. I cleaned that all up and tossed anything that comes in a box in the trash.

He was a different kid after about two weeks. It was the hippy homeopathic route but there was a ton of science behind my research from highly intelligent people.

This was two years ago and he hasn’t any further behavior issues.

Maybe a path to look into in addition to other paths but diet can be a big game changer.

 

[Done-it-again]

My so. Was diagnosed when he was younger roughly 8 ish doc’s put him on starters and all it did was make him sleepy and dose off in class. We stopped it and spoke to someone who had a different approach so he drank a half cup of black coffee each am before school and they it started to wear off and we incorporated diet Mountain Dew half way through the day via a doc script and that allowed him To function.

Daughter got hooked on typical crap handed out in college (adderal) which acts as a form of speed and has several other bad side effects.

So many kids taking these type of drugs for the wrong reason so please be careful maybe ask about the homeopathic path ( not normally a fan of the nutty crunchy way) but the alternative may be worth exploring.
Good luck

You should see all the white house wives buying adderal leaving the Cabo airport. Wow


I had asked what the line was for, crazy.

 

[Willie B]

My son is special needs. He’s non-verbal so difficult to know exactly what his challenges are day-to-day but at 21 years old you learn as a parent his ques.

Doctors were pill pushers. It was driving me nuts. I took a deep dive and went the diet route. Food is basically manufactured poison today. I cleaned that all up and tossed anything that comes in a box in the trash.

He was a different kid after about two weeks. It was the hippy homeopathic route but there was a ton of science behind my research from highly intelligent people.

This was two years ago and he hasn’t any further behavior issues.

Maybe a path to look into in addition to other paths but diet can be a big game changer.

…Diet is huge… anyone wishing to take this approach might give a read to this book the PH Miricle…

 

[rivermobster]

My son is special needs. He’s non-verbal so difficult to know exactly what his challenges are day-to-day but at 21 years old you learn as a parent his ques.

Doctors were pill pushers. It was driving me nuts. I took a deep dive and went the diet route. Food is basically manufactured poison today. I cleaned that all up and tossed anything that comes in a box in the trash.

He was a different kid after about two weeks. It was the hippy homeopathic route but there was a ton of science behind my research from highly intelligent people.

This was two years ago and he hasn’t any further behavior issues.

Maybe a path to look into in addition to other paths but diet can be a big game changer.

This ^^^

Get his diet in check before Anything else. Cut the carbs, sugar and anything white! No processed foods whatsoever!

No caffeine or sodas and see what happens. This may be all that you need.

 

[pronstar]

My so. Was diagnosed when he was younger roughly 8 ish doc’s put him on starters and all it did was make him sleepy and dose off in class. We stopped it and spoke to someone who had a different approach so he drank a half cup of black coffee each am before school and they it started to wear off and we incorporated diet Mountain Dew half way through the day via a doc script and that allowed him To function.

Daughter got hooked on typical crap handed out in college (adderal) which acts as a form of speed and has several other bad side effects.

So many kids taking these type of drugs for the wrong reason so please be careful maybe ask about the homeopathic path ( not normally a fan of the nutty crunchy way) but the alternative may be worth exploring.
Good luck

My wife is all about non-Western supplements for my autistic 3.5 year old son. While skeptical, I can’t argue with the improvements we’ve seen.

The latest two are saffron (a spice) and camel’s milk. I kid you not, within a day of him taking camel’s milk, we weren’t the only ones to notice a difference. His school called us the very next day noting massive improvement and wondering what was up, and our close friends have all stated he’s like a different kid.

Stick with it and leave no stone unturned. That’s how we’re rolling and I won’t lie, there are regressions but way more “steps forward” than “steps backward”

 

[HNL2LHC]

My son is special needs. He’s non-verbal so difficult to know exactly what his challenges are day-to-day but at 21 years old you learn as a parent his ques.

Doctors were pill pushers. It was driving me nuts. I took a deep dive and went the diet route. Food is basically manufactured poison today. I cleaned that all up and tossed anything that comes in a box in the trash.

He was a different kid after about two weeks. It was the hippy homeopathic route but there was a ton of science behind my research from highly intelligent people.

This was two years ago and he hasn’t any further behavior issues.

Maybe a path to look into in addition to other paths but diet can be a big game changer.

Was talking to a friend today and he commented on that route. Willing to look into any and everything as a source of issue or source of solution. Keep the info flowIng!!!!

 

[pronstar]

…Diet is huge… anyone wishing to take this approach might give a read to this book the PH Miricle…

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For sure. But my oldest suffers from a common issue with neuro-divergent kids - he hardly eats anything. His diet consists of like three things.

A few weeks ago he was on a banana kick…three days of eating nothing but bananas. We wound up in the ER because bananas cause constipation and he was in terrible discomfort.

My wife has read articles of some kids literally needing feeding tubes because they refuse to eat.

 

[Willie B]

This ^^^

Get his diet in check before Anything else. Cut the carbs, sugar and anything white! No processed foods whatsoever!

No caffeine or sodas and see what happens. This may be all that you need.

.., This is absolutely for sure the starting point… If he is ingesting any of the above… Carbs turn into sugar, which turns into alcohol in your bloodstream… Sugar turns into alcohol in your bloodstream…

 

[pronstar]

.., This is absolutely for sure the starting point… If he is ingesting any of the above… Carbs turn into sugar, which turns into alcohol in your bloodstream… Sugar turns into alcohol in your bloodstream…

Carbs bring out the worst in my kid…he would eat a whole loaf of bread if we let him.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Carbs bring out the worst in my kid…he would eat a whole loaf of bread if we let him.

Carbs turn to sugars, and can ramp some kids up. The diet and "eastern" medicine routes really do help. Sometimes keeping a log book for a couple weeks, what foods and what the next day was like, or that evening. It can see patterns missed. Sourdough bread is the one white bread that seems to have less effects also. I've read that yellow, orange and especially red food dyes can be triggers as well.

There also seems to be a happy medium, of both natural and pharmaceutical stuff for some people. Sometimes meds can be used until the person outgrows their symptoms, or learns more about them and themselves. Like everything though, every human is a different machine.

 

[pronstar]

Some of y’all will get a kick out of this…we recently learned that some elders at our church believe autism is demonic possession

 

[94essex]

We went to Newport for 6 weeks and did MERT therapy for our daughter at the brain treatment center. It helped a ton. Non invasive helps a myriad of different brain issues.

 

[pronstar]

We went to Newport for 6 weeks and did MERT therapy for our daughter at the brain treatment center. It helped a ton. Non invasive helps a myriad of different brain issues.

Good to hear it helped…we’re starting this soon for my son

 

[monkeyswrench]

Some of y’all will get a kick out of this…we recently learned that some elders at our church believe autism is demonic possession

Well, been around a couple that were the sweetest people on earth, but a switch flipped and yep, I could see where they may think that
Moments later, like nothing happened.

 

[94essex]

Good to hear it helped…we’re starting this soon for my son

Ya night and day difference. The people are awesome with the kids as well.

 

[rrrr]

Good to hear it helped…we’re starting this soon for my son

I'll be thinking of you and your family. I hope for good results.

 

[Dalton]

Not even close to the OP's ask, but if you have a child, and that child ever expresses any desire to be a pilot, do not allow a diagnosis of ADHD to be placed in any medical records, period. Don't allow a physician to lazily prescribe Adderall for your kid.

The FAA considers a diagnosis of ADHD to be a lifetime barrier to receiving a medical, and therefore a pilot certificate. It can only be rectified through spending thousands of dollars on FAA approved psychologists, cog screens, and paperwork madness that can take years to overcome. It will have to be proven the initial diagnosis was in error, a huge hurdle.

There's no doubt the diagnosis benefits some children. I'm just making everyone aware of the hidden pitfalls.

It's the same with the military now, they have this new program called Genesis and they can basically see info from any doctor's visit, ever. They're doing lots of waivers though.

 

[rivermobster]

Might want to look into allergy testing too.

 

[rrrr]

It's the same with the military now, they have this new program called Genesis and they can basically see info from any doctor's visit, ever. They're doing lots of waivers though.

The FAA can access insurance, prescription, and driving records. Lying on the medical form is a felony, so being untruthful on the application is a really bad idea.

A DUI over .15 implies tolerance and abuse, so that's another years long issue to repair.

 

[Mike Honcho]

You should see all the white house wives buying adderal leaving the Cabo airport. Wow


I had asked what the line was for, crazy.

That’s funny just was in Cabo three weeks ago but never noticed.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

As the title says looking for some advise on ADHD and meds. Also might be exploding options in the Phoenix area. Anyone that has exposure it would be great to connect. PM would be best and we can go from there. Anyone that has any general experience advise post up if you like. Appreciate the help in advance.

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[COCA COLA COWBOY]

I’m going to limit my response because I’m definitely not a fan of drugs in small children. There is a ton of data online to support so I’ll leave it at that.

I will say one thing. My son attended a school where the children had to run first thing before going to class for about 20-30 minutes. I spoke to some teachers and parents and the consensus was it wore them out and slowed their nervous energy to nothing. They were able to listen and study once all that nervous energy was out of them.

 

[Bobby_329]

I have it never took meds every teacher and school I went to wanted me on them. Would it have been easier to get through school maybe but you need to learn to live with it unless your gonna stay on them forever. Its still hard for me to focus while sitting at the computer studying drawings, writing schedules even sitting in meetings and I'm 35 but I've learned how to make myself do it so I can be successful.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I’m going to limit my response because I’m definitely not a fan of drugs in small children. There is a ton of data online to support so I’ll leave it at that.

I will say one thing. My son attended a school where the children had to run first thing before going to class for about 20-30 minutes. I spoke to some teachers and parents and the consensus was it wore them out and slowed their nervous energy to nothing. They were able to listen and study once all that nervous energy was out of them.

I'm now 47. One of my good friends growing up was what they would now call ADHD. He was on a swim team with my now wife, from age 8 to maybe 14. (when my wife went to another) He excelled in both athletics as well as academics. He switched out to soccer after college, and still plays today. He's a structural engineer by trade. Looking at it now, I think he needed to purge excess energy.

There are many types of issues kids and adults deal with. Some are mental, others physical, and many times the symptoms blur the lines between. Figuring out which one is the cause, and which is a symptom, can get to be the stumbling block. I'd say today more kids are suffering from things related to mental causes, just based on our now disconnected society. There is also the food we eat though, that is increasingly more harmful...and that effects both body and mind. As a whole, my children's generation is fighting off more attacks, and much different attacks, than my generation.