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Difference between rich and wealthy.. apparently lineman make good money and can get rich, figure out how to be the guy that pays the lineman salary and you'll be wealthy
The guy I know was an electrician wiring houses, became a lineman and now owns the high voltage company. Union shop with probably 150 employees and hundreds of pieces of equipment.

I do all the electrical on his and his family’s homes. He always tells me it gets harder the bigger you get lol. And he’s a very supportive guy.
 

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He told me recently that if shit hits the fan again, he is not going to go through his personal and business savings to try and keep the business going, he said the first sign of things going south, he will shut it down and get a driving job just driving for someone else...
Fair enough. It sounds like he has some assets to fall back on now so cruising with what he has can also work out. Do you see where I’m coming from? It’s one thing to sit on a mountain and say I won’t do this for that. Meanwhile the folks at the bottom will do anything to get half way up the mountain.

I turned down my Real estate business while rates are this high. Why have people hate me when I can’t sell their house at record prices with rates at a 30 yr high? I’ll be back at it when the dust starts to settle and these promise the sky fool’s ruin their reputations.
 

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Try to get it with LADWP as an Electrical Mechanic. You could be doing underground pipe, new construction, in-house mechanic at one of our power plants, etc. You’re good, so you’ll work your way up to supervisor and beyond.

They just negotiated a fat ass raise with our last contract too. You have to go through their apprenticeship but journey level pay (after apprenticeship) is at 140k and the OT is always there. I believe starting pay for newbies is around 112k. Pass the written exam and pass a practical and they take from the top of the list.

I’m a Controls Mechanic at the power plant but we have in-house Electrical Mechanics so I work with them all the time. It’s a good gig.

PM if you want more info 👍

https://personnel.lacity.gov/doc.cfm?get=ClassSpec3841
 

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One thing for sure, you are still very young and have so much of your earning life ahead of you. Find something that you love to do not what you have to do if at all possible.
Good luck.
 

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One thing for sure, you are still very young and have so much of your earning life ahead of you. Find something that you love to do not what you have to do if at all possible.
Good luck.
I’ll be the contrarian to some of that.

Define the kind of lifestyle you want and find a vocation that can provide that. It helps if you like it and are good at it.
 

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I’ll be the contrarian to some of that.

Define the kind of lifestyle you want and find a vocation that can provide that. It helps if you like it and are good at it.
If I were to be reincarnated as an animal I’d want to be a triple crown winning thoroughbred that’s been put out to stud.

What a job😂
 

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You have what sounds like an operating business with many years of history. That's hard to achieve, a majority fail. Do you want to walk away from that to work a job where you have to clock in, have a capped earning potential, submit for vacation time, ask to clock out some days to participate in your children's lives, lose control of defining your own destiny, and so much more? That's foreign to me.

You should give thought to what you're good at in your current business and if you're a hustler. Seek help in running your company, nothing wrong with that at all. A business coach is a good start, in my opinion. I'm guessing you missed out on some in-the-situation business lessons given how you came into the company. You need guidance, a mentor. It should help you to figure out where you need help and how to find it.

Maybe you need someone with experience to come in and help run the business for you/with you. This could give you the opportunity to contribute in areas of the business that you excel while learning how a business is operated. Grow into the role.

As for the hustler part - You need to decide if you have the drive and desire to make the above happen. Then learn how to make it happen and see it through. If you don't have that confidence, then maybe a clock-in/out gig is for you. That's a totally different type of hustle, one where you end up being part of someone else's goals. Great for a majority of our population and certainly needed.

If you want to continually increase your earning potential to the point that you don't have to work to earn but the earning continues to increase, then get some fire in you, hustle, and take advantage of the fact you already have an operating business. Basically suck it up.

Remember, a business owner can have unlimited earning potential and as much freedom as they want. You cannot get that logging hours.
 

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I’ll be the contrarian to some of that.

Define the kind of lifestyle you want and find a vocation that can provide that. It helps if you like it and are good at it.
I think this is an often overlooked piece of the puzzle. “What do you want to do?”

If you want to chill at home on the weekends and drink beer and watch football in your 2000sqft home there is a broad Set of jobs that will allow that and you won’t need to make many sacrifices or take undue risks.

However, if you want to fly your jet to your yacht twice a month with your family and friends there is a different set of risks and sacrifices you are going to have to make for that to become a reality.

Neither is right or wrong but defining what you want and how you’ll get there is a great exercise to go through and makes the decisions easier (after the pain of trying to truly define “What Do You Want”). :)
 

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Stay uncomfortable. It creates drive.
You’ll get plenty of rest when you’re dead.
Exactly!

My wife tells me I’m never satisfied always looking for the next best thing. She’s right, but that’s also why we have got to where we are at. She thinks I’m nuts.🤣 I always tell her I’m never scared to gamble on myself.🤙
 

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Exactly!

My wife tells me I’m never satisfied always looking for the next best thing. She’s right, but that’s also why we have got to where we are at. She thinks I’m nuts.🤣 I always tell her I’m never scared to gamble on myself.🤙
Cheers brother! You get it!
 
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This.

My brain never stops thinking about what else I could do because I get burned out on the grind of being self employed. I’m not sure I could ever clock in and clock out though. I’d be fired the first time you told me I couldn’t go home to make my kid’s baseball game. We may work more hours than most being self employed but the freedom it gives you when you want it to be involved with your kids is priceless.

Maybe adjust what you do and how you do it. 🤷‍♂️ I wish I had the answers but I’m 37and still trying to figure it out myself. it’s clear I haven’t because it’s 2am and I’m still working 🤣
Honestly that’s the only thing I complain about. I do everything i can to be a good employee and go above and beyond. If choosing between my job and my family comes up in going to choose my family. Asking for time off to see a game is a real thing though. It’s not a laughing matter but some of these posts nailed it 😂 not something I make a habit of but what’s the saying? Better to ask for forgiveness or some shit
 

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All brain work, no physical labor.

$35-$40 to start ceiling $50. Then learn RF/Microwave i.e. spectrum analyzers, signal generators, network analyzers, power sensors, power meters etc. and get to $50-$60. Learn board level repair for even more.

You won't necessarily get rich, but it's a job that will allow you to enjoy life and retirement.
 

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If I were to be reincarnated as an animal I’d want to be a triple crown winning thoroughbred that’s been put out to stud.

What a job😂
They use artificial insemination these days. You'll be stuck in a stall standing in your own shit and hooked up to a machine that sucks the life out of you. :)
 

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They use artificial insemination these days. You'll be stuck in a stall standing in your own shit and hooked up to a machine that sucks the life out of you. :)
Negative ghost rider, thoroughbreds are live insemination and you don’t pay the stud fee until you have a live foal. Top producers are fetching $300k a shot three times a day.😮

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Try to get it with LADWP as an Electrical Mechanic. You could be doing underground pipe, new construction, in-house mechanic at one of our power plants, etc. You’re good, so you’ll work your way up to supervisor and beyond.

They just negotiated a fat ass raise with our last contract too. You have to go through their apprenticeship but journey level pay (after apprenticeship) is at 140k and the OT is always there. I believe starting pay for newbies is around 112k. Pass the written exam and pass a practical and they take from the top of the list.

I’m a Controls Mechanic at the power plant but we have in-house Electrical Mechanics so I work with them all the time. It’s a good gig.

PM if you want more info 👍

https://personnel.lacity.gov/doc.cfm?get=ClassSpec3841
I can second this. I’m at electrical mechanic supervisor and it’s a great gig. Lots of pros and cons compared to running your own business but it’s been good to me.
 

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I think this is an often overlooked piece of the puzzle. “What do you want to do?”

If you want to chill at home on the weekends and drink beer and watch football in your 2000sqft home there is a broad Set of jobs that will allow that and you won’t need to make many sacrifices or take undue risks.

However, if you want to fly your jet to your yacht twice a month with your family and friends there is a different set of risks and sacrifices you are going to have to make for that to become a reality.

Neither is right or wrong but defining what you want and how you’ll get there is a great exercise to go through and makes the decisions easier (after the pain of trying to truly define “What Do You Want”). :)
You mean I can't chill on the couch drinking beer every weekend and then catch a jet to an island with my friend for the hell of it? 🤪

problem, with most people who have drive and like to hustle.... you achieve your goals, and then move the goal posts out.... then achieve that goal, and then push them out again. Almost turns into a problem after a while.... and really need to self reflect often to figure out where you really want to go, or is what you have pretty dang good?

some of my very successful friends talk about about how at some point, achieving that "goal" becomes very anticlimactic.... you just become accustomed to it

I vote UPS driver.... sounds like 170k/yr is the new deal, get to wear shorts every day... and the other day my UPS guy was bumping some Tupac in his van
 
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Negative ghost rider, thoroughbreds are live insemination and you don’t pay the stud fee until you have a live foal. Top producers are fetching $300k a shot three times a day.😮

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My wife’s grandmother in into show horses and all are artificial insemination. No one wants to risk issues to both stud and mare trying to mount for what theses horses are worth.
 

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My wife’s grandmother in into show horses and all are artificial insemination. No one wants to risk issues to both stud and mare trying to mount for what theses horses are worth.
Horse racing has its own play book, in theory the bloodlines should be passed by natural process to insure fittest of the species thrives, the reality is it’s much more profitable to keep your product scarce😉 it’s all about breeding programs, however you have to run the horse, win the right races and keep it sound before you can get that big stud money. On the bottom end it’s about $35k to breed a horse and get it to the track as a two year old, that’s without any medical bills or premium stud fees. The idea is to get a good colt and get in on and off the track as fast as possible and put it to stud. It’s a tough business, you’re competing against all the money in the world. The champion stud horses have amazing lives, no expense spared, live better than 95% of the humans on the planet LOL
 

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I’m not understanding your train of thought to throw away a business that could do more for your family than working for another guy just to provide for his dreams.
Nobody said it would be easy and you’re going to be miserable working under someone else.
I’ve been doing it for 30 some years and I’d never throw my hands in the air and surrender. Keep your business.
 

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I’m not understanding your train of thought to throw away a business that could do more for your family than working for another guy just to provide for his dreams.
Nobody said it would be easy and you’re going to be miserable working under someone else.
I’ve been doing it for 30 some years and I’d never throw my hands in the air and surrender. Keep your business.
I guess the short answer is my mental health. I’m not throwing the baby out with the bath water yet. But this thread, the PMs and texts I’ve received have been very enlightening. A lot of different perspectives 👍🏻
 

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I think it was just one of those days. And finding good help that led to this post. We all have been there with those thoughts. I still get them every now and then. Your still a youngster Buddy sky is the limit and you got the knowledge to make it happen. You do great work I can attest to that. Don't let those customers turn your hair grey like they did mine! Let them fill your pockets with green.
 

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I guess the short answer is my mental health. I’m not throwing the baby out with the bath water yet. But this thread, the PMs and texts I’ve received have been very enlightening. A lot of different perspectives 👍🏻
Your good days will exceed the bad. Lawsuits are nothing but a challenge to make you stronger. You’ll learn what you need to correct the deficiency in your contracts. Stick with it. You’re going to be fine.
 

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If your really considering the lineman trade talk to your buddy who owns his own outfit. Thats practically a red carpet for you in a sense that you can get an apprenticeship fairly easy. Theres some homie hookups in the trade. Im telling you theres dudes in northern cali pulling 300k plus a year conservatively speaking (rumour mill puts it higher) however that pay comes at a huge price... stressed marriage, missing kids stuff not enjoying your boat or other toys. Starting out you wont be that high but as you progress through the apprenticeship you will get there. As an outside line construction lineman your benefits are phenomenal. Huge company pay into a 401k without you contributing a dime, lineco health insurance which is top tier right now. Ibew pension, ability to travel the world and get a job anywhere you want. Multiple equipment certifications including cranes. Ability to say xyz dollar amount is my happy place im going to work from this month to this month hit my mark and be done for the rest of the year. There's pros and cons to everything but if you are really tired of customers and employees this is a good way to be able to step back and still be able to provide a good life for your family and prepare for your future.

As @WTR&PWR says its the golden hancuffs.
 

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You should give thought to what you're good at in your current business and if you're a hustler. Seek help in running your company, nothing wrong with that at all. A business coach is a good start, in my opinion. I'm guessing you missed out on some in-the-situation business lessons given how you came into the company. You need guidance, a mentor. It should help you to figure out where you need help and how to find it.

Maybe you need someone with experience to come in and help run the business for you/with you. This could give you the opportunity to contribute in areas of the business that you excel while learning how a business is operated. Grow into the role.

This before anything else.
 

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I’m not understanding your train of thought to throw away a business that could do more for your family than working for another guy just to provide for his dreams.
Nobody said it would be easy and you’re going to be miserable working under someone else.
I’ve been doing it for 30 some years and I’d never throw my hands in the air and surrender. Keep your business.

1000 percent
 

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I think this is an often overlooked piece of the puzzle. “What do you want to do?”

If you want to chill at home on the weekends and drink beer and watch football in your 2000sqft home there is a broad Set of jobs that will allow that and you won’t need to make many sacrifices or take undue risks.

However, if you want to fly your jet to your yacht twice a month with your family and friends there is a different set of risks and sacrifices you are going to have to make for that to become a reality.

Neither is right or wrong but defining what you want and how you’ll get there is a great exercise to go through and makes the decisions easier (after the pain of trying to truly define “What Do You Want”). :)
Sad part about it is the guy that has the jet and mega yacht barely enjoys his toys because he is so busy working and the only thing he cares about is making more $$$...lol
 

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Sad part about it is the guy that has the jet and mega yacht barely enjoys his toys because he is so busy working and the only thing he cares about is making more $$$...lol
or even worse... has the means to comfortably have a jet, a yacht etc... and never does because all they do is work and make more money
 

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The only thing I will add is being self employed is going to give you freedoms that a union/hourly gig won't give you. As the kid gets older I would be afraid that you might miss out on special events/sports/Dance/etc... that are important.
 

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I’m not understanding your train of thought to throw away a business that could do more for your family than working for another guy just to provide for his dreams.
Nobody said it would be easy and you’re going to be miserable working under someone else.
I’ve been doing it for 30 some years and I’d never throw my hands in the air and surrender. Keep your business.
In some cases, the current business owner may have not been the one that started the business and feels like an employee/slave to the business, even though they are the current owner.
He should take his business knowledge and pursue something similar to what he's doing now. Something he knows instead of a whole new career change.
 
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