An unpopular opinion…

[4Waters]

You're taking a (refreshingly) thoughtful approach. I'm also 'old school' and consider myself an 'Eisenhower Republican'. My question is "what policies he (Trump) believes in"? Agreed, Trump is truly as much of a narcissist as you say. But a narcissist believes in NOTHING except himself! Don't forget, Trump spent his entire life leg-humping and pandering to Democrats trying to work his way into politics, but even when he went before Congress testifying in favor of a Democrat tax increase on the wealthy, they still wouldn't have him. The only reason Trump switched parties is because he couldn't get traction with the Democratic party.

Here he testifying before Congress is in all his narcissistic pandering glory...

Donald Trump supporting substancial tax increases for high income people

From his testimony to the House Task Force on Urgent Fiscal Issues, November 21, 1991.

www.c-span.org

A political expert as well as a fuel injection expert @Racey And @DaveH already delt with him now it @regor turn

 

[Racey]

Facts and logic are not highly regarded by conspiracy theorists but here we go.

If you have ever worked for or had been issued a government paid for phone this will make complete sense to you.

Andrew Weissmann Debunks Phone Wiping Theory | Law & Crime

One of Robert Mueller’s top lieutenants in the Russia investigation said the recent controversy over 27 prosecutors on the special counsel’s team wiping their government-issued cell phones before returning them to the DOJ is no controversy at all. In an interview with CBS News on Wednesday...

lawandcrime.com

That's not what the OIG's official report said. That's just Weisman off the record making claims that have no basis.

Grassley's own inquiry found the same thing.

If you know anything about phones there are apps that do not back up, like Threema and other secure communication apps. Even SMS



Nice try jackass.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/JW-v-DOJ-Mueller-Strzok-Page-Texts-02693.pdf

Airplane mode, enters the wrong password 10 times. and it was more than one person on Weisman's team, including Weisman himself....

When is the last time anyone forgot their phone password.

Spare us your water carrying Clown.

The OIG didn't get the text communications they were looking for, reason given: phone accidentally wiped. Judicial watch didn't get the messages through foia, reason given: accidentally wiped.

Weissman: nothing got deleted you just have to trust me

You wouldn't let this bullshit excuse fly for anyone on Trump's team and you know it.

 

[ElectroNautical]

If it was so fair why did they fight so hard not to show us the machines ? Hillary lost because most people despise that nasty thing.

Most people voted for Hillary Clinton, are you ignoring forgetting that? Trump won the Electoral College, but 3 million more PEOPLE voted for Clinton.

Google Search

 

[530RL]

That's not what the OIG's official report said. That's just Weisman off the record making claims that have no basis.

Grassley's own inquiry found the same thing.

If you know anything about phones there are apps that do not back up, like Threema and other secure communication apps. Even SMS



Nice try jackass.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/JW-v-DOJ-Mueller-Strzok-Page-Texts-02693.pdf

Airplane mode, enters the wrong password 10 times. and it was more than one person on Weisman's team, including Weisman himself....

When is the last time anyone forgot their phone password.

Spare us your water carrying Clown.

The OIG didn't get the text communications they were looking for, reason given: phone accidentally wiped. Judicial watch didn't get the messages through foia, reason given: accidentally wiped.

Weissman: nothing got deleted you just have to trust me

You wouldn't let this bullshit excuse fly for anyone on Trump's team and you know it.

Like I said, when one believe in conspiracy theories, they believe conspiracy theories.

And they are frequently disappointed and frustrated as their team keeps being charged, convicted and paying the price.

But that’s probably a conspiracy too.

 

[Racey]

Like I said, when one believe in conspiracy theories, they believe conspiracy theories.

And they are frequently disappointed and frustrated as their team keeps being charged, convicted and paying the price.

But that’s probably a conspiracy too.

Lol so you have a non answer. As expected.

Facts = Conspiracy Theory when it doesn't fit 530's distorted reality

 

[Wedgy]

Facts and logic are not highly regarded by conspiracy theorists but here we go.

If you have ever worked for or had been issued a government paid for phone this will make complete sense to you.

Andrew Weissmann Debunks Phone Wiping Theory | Law & Crime

One of Robert Mueller’s top lieutenants in the Russia investigation said the recent controversy over 27 prosecutors on the special counsel’s team wiping their government-issued cell phones before returning them to the DOJ is no controversy at all. In an interview with CBS News on Wednesday...

lawandcrime.com

Hey Fuckstick. I worked for the Federal Government, and I'm here to tell you that you are entirely, and completely full of fucking shit. Every time. Period. End of story. But that's just facts and truth. You do you. And swallow too.

PS, they quit giving me phones early on. Funny AF. Thunderboats Unlimited related accident at Drag boats, Crown Point.

 

[rmarion]

Come on Racey 530 is a Troll, when he gets called out he just pivots to another thread and continues "FISHING"

 

[Wedgy]

Fishng!! LOL. I'd like to see that Fkr latch onto a 198 pound Bigeye Tuna....

 

[regor]

Most people voted for Hillary Clinton, are you ignoring forgetting that? Trump won the Electoral College, but 3 million more PEOPLE voted for Clinton.

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You tell em lil Fraudpa………

 

[17 10 Flat]

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You tell em lil Fraudpa………

You know regardless of how far off shore you dump the trash, it seems to find it's way back.

 

[ElectroNautical]

A political expert as well as a fuel injection expert @Racey And @DaveH already delt with him now it @regor turn

Well, @Racey has beaten a cowardly retreat after being exposed as an ignoramus here and elsewhere by me and others (folded like a wet napkin), resident BMOC @DaveH is actually learning a thing or two about MEFI in our exchanges, while @regor and you have not added anything of substance that a stupid parrot couldn't do better.

By the way, DEALT is the past tense of the verb 'Deal' and it is not spelled "Delt".

 

[4Waters]

Well, @Racey has beaten a cowardly retreat after being exposed as an ignoramus here and elsewhere by me and others (folded like a wet napkin), resident BMOC @DaveH is actually learning a thing or two about MEFI in our exchanges, while @regor and you have not added anything of substance that a stupid parrot couldn't do better.

By the way, DEALT is the past tense of the verb 'Deal' and it is not spelled "Delt".

I can see that you are an America hating troll that hasn't a clue about anything. Trump said pussy, those are on biological women incase you didn't know .

 

[ElectroNautical]

--snip ignorant crap--

Airplane mode, enters the wrong password 10 times. and it was more than one person on Weisman's team, including Weisman himself....

When is the last time anyone forgot their phone password.

--snip moronic crap--

Here we see proof that hard-core unemployable troll @Racey has never held a job of any significance where perks included an employer-provided cell phone. If he had he'd know that ALL employers dealing with potentially sensitive information ALWAYS require phones, computers and anything that might capture employment-related data to be wiped before leaving the posession of the employee. It's a standard practice and one that anyone who's ever held a position of responsibility would know about. The most common and reliable method of completely wiping a phone is to enter the password incorrectly ten times, and all my former employers specified this exact method in writing before upgrading my phone (androids, windows phones, Blackberrys, PalmPilots and iPhones). There are other more complicated ways to do it, but intentionally entering the wrong password/code ten times is something even the least technically savvy employees can do.

So Racey, how many times do you have to have your a$$ handed to you before you just STFU and go back under your rock? Will ten times do it for you?

 

[ElectroNautical]

I can see that you are an America hating troll that hasn't a clue about anything. Trump said pussy, those are on biological women incase you didn't know .

LoL... "incase"??? And where does "Trump said pussy" fit into any of this? Let me guess, you didn't make it past 8th grade, am I right?

 

[530RL]

Here we see proof that hard-core unemployable troll @Racey has never held a job of any significance where perks included an employer-provided cell phone. If he had he'd know that ALL employers dealing with potentially sensitive information ALWAYS require phones, computers and anything that might capture employment-related data to be wiped before leaving the posession of the employee. It's a standard practice and one that anyone who's ever held a position of responsibility would know about. The most common and reliable method of completely wiping a phone is to enter the password incorrectly ten times, and all my former employers specified this exact method in writing before upgrading my phone (androids, windows phones, Blackberrys, PalmPilots and iPhones). There are other more complicated ways to do it, but intentionally entering the wrong password/code ten times is something even the least technically savvy employees can do.

So Racey, how many times do you have to have your a$$ handed to you before you just STFU and go back under your rock? Will ten times do it for you?

Of course it is SOP. But that ruins his conspiracy theory.

 

[17 10 Flat]

I can see that you are an America hating troll that hasn't a clue about anything. Trump said pussy, those are on biological women incase you didn't know .

4waters don't bother. The IT you are responding to craves attention, much like the scoutmaster. Leave IT be IT will fade away or get banned when IP address are checked.

 

[ElectroNautical]

Facts and logic are not highly regarded by conspiracy theorists but here we go.

If you have ever worked for or had been issued a government paid for phone this will make complete sense to you.

Andrew Weissmann Debunks Phone Wiping Theory | Law & Crime

One of Robert Mueller’s top lieutenants in the Russia investigation said the recent controversy over 27 prosecutors on the special counsel’s team wiping their government-issued cell phones before returning them to the DOJ is no controversy at all. In an interview with CBS News on Wednesday...

lawandcrime.com

The problem is that either (a) he won't read it or (b) he won't comprehend it if he does.

It's not just goverment issued employee phones, every employer dealing with sensitive information of any kind requires the 'ten-failed-password' method of wiping phones before turning them in for upgrades or whatever.

 

[Racey]

Here we see proof that hard-core unemployable troll @Racey has never held a job of any significance where perks included an employer-provided cell phone. If he had he'd know that ALL employers dealing with potentially sensitive information ALWAYS require phones, computers and anything that might capture employment-related data to be wiped before leaving the posession of the employee. It's a standard practice and one that anyone who's ever held a position of responsibility would know about. The most common and reliable method of completely wiping a phone is to enter the password incorrectly ten times, and all my former employers specified this exact method in writing before upgrading my phone (androids, windows phones, Blackberrys, PalmPilots and iPhones). There are other more complicated ways to do it, but intentionally entering the wrong password/code ten times is something even the least technically savvy employees can do.

So Racey, how many times do you have to have your a$$ handed to you before you just STFU and go back under your rock? Will ten times do it for you?

Lol you are a moron. The user isn't responsible for wiping the data from an enterprise device, the enterprise is. In fact the enterprise wants the data in tact when they regain possession of their device.

And it's you who is getting your ass handed to you, not I. You come in arrogantly talking about shit you don't know about, and when corrected act like a little bitch

 

[Racey]

Of course it is SOP. But that ruins his conspiracy theory.

Lol it's not SOP to claim you 'forgot' your password and erase all the data on your government device in violation of data retention policy. You really have lost your mind.

Not even the OIG tried running that cover.

 

[17 10 Flat]

Lol you are a moron. The user isn't responsible for wiping the data from an enterprise device, the enterprise is. In fact the enterprise wants the data in tact when they regain possession of their device.

And it's you who is getting your ass handed to you, not I. You come in arrogantly talking about shit you don't know about, and when corrected act like a little bitch

You can be almost as mean as Regor.

 

[ElectroNautical]

4waters don't bother. The IT you are responding to craves attention, much like the scoutmaster. Leave IT be IT will fade away or get banned when IP address are checked.

My ScoutMaster was a Korean War Conflict hero who lost half a hand and an eye serving his country and is interred at ANC, and he's a hero to me and every Scout he ever coached into manhood. A$$-Clown's hero is Trump. I rest my case...

 

[530RL]

Lol you are a moron. The user isn't responsible for wiping the data from an enterprise device, the enterprise is. In fact the enterprise wants the data in tact when they regain possession of their device.

And it's you who is getting your ass handed to you, not I. You come in arrogantly talking about shit you don't know about, and when corrected act like a little bitch

Exactly. “The user isn’t responsible for wiping the data from an enterprise device”.

That data remains under the enterprise control and wiping the individual phone does not destroy enterprise data. Only personal data. That’s the whole point of being able to have both personal data as well as enterprise data and when the user wipes his phone, only personal data not backed up is lost.

The enterprise data remains as you point out, under the control of the enterprise.

That’s why organizations use this method. To clear returned phones of personal data while the organization keeps the enterprise data.

 

[Racey]

Exactly. “The user isn’t responsible for wiping the data from an enterprise device”.

That data remains under the enterprise control and wiping the individual phone does not destroy enterprise data. Only personal data. That’s the whole point of being able to have both personal data as well as enterprise data and when the user wipes his phone, only personal data not backed up is lost.

The enterprise data remains as you point out, under the control of the enterprise.

That’s why organizations use this method. To clear returned phones of personal data while the organization keeps the enterprise data.

Lol except your wrong. How does the enterprise differntiate between personal sms messages and official ones. It doesn't. And they did not retain that data as there is no record of it. Strzok and Paige's text messages were only archived because they remained on the device. They were not pulled from 'enterprise' record keeping.

Page 8 buddy, it's explicitly spelled out.

Stick to things you actually know about pretzel boy

 

[500bbc]

My ScoutMaster was a Korean War Conflict hero who lost half a hand and an eye serving his country and is interred at ANC, and he's a hero to me and every Scout he ever coached into manhood. A$$-Clown's hero is Trump. I rest my case...

Hence you living your dream as a current Scoutmaster..Sniff...Sniff...SNNNNIFFFFFF...

 

[530RL]

Lol except your wrong. How does the enterprise differntiate between personal sms messages and official ones. It doesn't. And they did not retain that data as there is no record of it. Strzok and Paige's text messages were only archived because they remained on the device. They were not pulled from 'enterprise' record keeping.

Page 8 buddy, it's explicitly spelled out.

Stick to things you actually know about pretzel boy

Interesting.

Your experience in working in a large organization that has both BYOP policies as well as corporate phone policies is dramatically different than mine. Your experience and understanding of multiple accounts on a phone and how to set up what data belongs to which account, even some being shared, and what data is archived is dramatically different than mine. Your experience working for and around government where these policies and archiving rules and protocols are well sorted and handled is vastly different than mine.

Further your vast experience in understanding how phone policies work for short term duration projects both in large scale private enterprise and in government and how separate accounts are set up for archiving data relating to those activities, which are kept separate from day to day activities, both from a BYOP as well as enterprise provided phone is very different than mine.

When one observes that something nefarious can happen, others assume it must have happened against them. They don't think of that as a conspiracy. They think of it as evidence of a nefarious act. The mere possibility is in fact their evidence of it actually happening. They don't need anything else.

 

[Racey]

Interesting.

Your experience in working in a large organization that has both BYOP policies as well as corporate phone policies is dramatically different than mine. Your experience and understanding of multiple accounts on a phone and how to set up what data belongs to which account, even some being shared, and what data is archived is dramatically different than mine. Your experience working for and around government where these policies and archiving rules and protocols are well sorted and handled is vastly different than mine.

Further your vast experience in understanding how phone policies work for short term duration projects both in large scale private enterprise and in government and how separate accounts are set up for archiving data relating to those activities, which are kept separate from day to day activities, both from a BYOP as well as enterprise provided phone is very different than mine.

When one observes that something nefarious can happen, others assume it must have happened against them. They don't think of that as a conspiracy. They think of it as evidence of a nefarious act. The mere possibility is in fact their evidence and fact of it actually happening. They don't need anything else.

It's obvious you didn't read the actual subject matter at hand. Furthermore you are in complete denial of the facts.

Fact, the Dept EXPLICITY told employees to NOT delete phone data. Why the fuck would they need to do this if they had back end copies of the data?

No answer i expect.

Continuing, not one person said "In accordance with the policy of the Dept I wiped the data".

Fuck no, it was always "Accidentally" or "I forgot the password", or they turned the phone in with airplane mode on, wifi off, and provided no passcode, giving NO ability for an enterprise administrator to remotely reset the passcode to enable access to the phone.

You truly have your head up your ass. You think you are so much smarter than everyone that you are immune from having to read the actual source material.

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Nice try turd brain.

 

[4Waters]

LoL... "incase"??? And where does "Trump said pussy" fit into any of this? Let me guess, you didn't make it past 8th grade, am I right?

I graduated gmac, there is a fish breaking the law somewhere

 

[4Waters]

4waters don't bother. The IT you are responding to craves attention, much like the scoutmaster. Leave IT be IT will fade away or get banned when IP address are checked.

His sentence structure is very similar to fish cop

 

[530RL]

It's obvious you didn't read the actual subject matter at hand. Furthermore you are in complete denial of the facts.

Fact, the Dept EXPLICITY told employees to NOT delete phone data. Why the fuck would they need to do this if they had back end copies of the data?

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No answer i expect.

Continuing, not one person said "In accordance with the policy of the Dept I wiped the data".

Fuck no, it was always "Accidentally" or "I forgot the password", or they turned the phone in with airplane mode on, wifi off, and provided no passcode, giving NO ability for an enterprise administrator to remotely reset the passcode to enable access to the phone.

You truly have your head up your ass. You think you are so much smarter than everyone that you are immune from having to read the actual source material.

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Nice try turd brain.

LOL

At least your arguments of evidence and facts here are as robust as those of the election being stolen.

No wonder you keep losing in court after court and keep getting more and more convinced of another conspiracy.

 

[Racey]

LOL

At least your arguments of evidence and facts here are as robust as those of the election being stolen.

No wonder you keep losing in court after court and keep getting more and more convinced of another conspiracy.

Hahahahahaha just as i predicted, no answer just more deflection.

You were proved wrong again, now go off to the corner and cry in your blanky

 

[530RL]

Hahahahahaha just as i predicted, no answer just more deflection.

You were proved wrong again, now go off to the corner and cry in your blanky

Lol

If they did not follow policy and or the law, why are there no charges? Because what they did was in compliance with standard practices!

You keep thinking that the fact that they wiped their phones, as was practice, they are guilty of some crime.

You make the same leap with the election. You argue that because all computers can be hacked, election computers must have been hacked and therefore Biden lost.

You can’t differentiate between possibility and actuality. You believe they are the same. Since China makes paper, there must be paper ballots for Biden.

It’s ingenious in theory as you don’t have to actually prove anything, just point out your theory is possible and therefore conclude it happened.

 

[Wedgy]

Lol

If they did not follow policy and or the law, why are there no charges? Because what they did was in compliance with standard practices!

You keep thinking that the fact that they wiped their phones, as was practice, they are guilty of some crime.

You make the same leap with the election. You argue that because all computers can be hacked, election computers must have been hacked and therefore Biden lost.

You can’t differentiate between possibility and actuality. You believe they are the same. Since China makes paper, there must be paper ballots for Biden.

It’s ingenious in theory as you don’t have to actually prove anything, just point out your theory is possible and therefore conclude it happened.

Straight outta R4Radicals there TurdBo. Gonorrhea is such a terrible disease. WTF get that shit treated...

 

[regor]

LOL

At least your arguments of evidence and facts here are as robust as those of the election being stolen.

No wonder you keep losing in court after court and keep getting more and more convinced of another conspiracy.

Hahahaha look at the butt hurt lying ass RINO defending the stolen election.................AGAIN!!!

You know why you defend it?

Because Donnie and his base exposed yore scam AND damaged yore gravy train vessel. We all know yore willing to support any scenario that you THINK will remove us, but you keep dreaming scumbag, there is NOTHING you can do to get it back lil Mika!!

 

[rcmike]

Here we see proof that hard-core unemployable troll @Racey has never held a job of any significance where perks included an employer-provided cell phone. If he had he'd know that ALL employers dealing with potentially sensitive information ALWAYS require phones, computers and anything that might capture employment-related data to be wiped before leaving the posession of the employee. It's a standard practice and one that anyone who's ever held a position of responsibility would know about. The most common and reliable method of completely wiping a phone is to enter the password incorrectly ten times, and all my former employers specified this exact method in writing before upgrading my phone (androids, windows phones, Blackberrys, PalmPilots and iPhones). There are other more complicated ways to do it, but intentionally entering the wrong password/code ten times is something even the least technically savvy employees can do.

So Racey, how many times do you have to have your a$$ handed to you before you just STFU and go back under your rock? Will ten times do it for you?

I wonder how this squares with federal requirements to retain all records for a period of 3 years or longer, if required...

 

[brgrcru]

Some how ? the game whack a mole, comes to mind . Every time 530 posts.

 

[Racey]

Lol

If they did not follow policy and or the law, why are there no charges? Because what they did was in compliance with standard practices!

You keep thinking that the fact that they wiped their phones, as was practice, they are guilty of some crime.

You make the same leap with the election. You argue that because all computers can be hacked, election computers must have been hacked and therefore Biden lost.

You can’t differentiate between possibility and actuality. You believe they are the same. Since China makes paper, there must be paper ballots for Biden.

It’s ingenious in theory as you don’t have to actually prove anything, just point out your theory is possible and therefore conclude it happened.

Why would the refer to it as (in their words, not mine), "an accident" or "forgot", when it was actually "compliance" and "standard practice".....


Why were there no charges?.... gee golly i can't imagine why they wouldn't prosecute themselves.....

 

[regor]

Why would the refer to it as (in their words, not mine), "an accident" or "forgot", when it was actually "compliance" and "standard practice".....


Why were there no charges?.... gee golly i can't imagine why they wouldn't prosecute themselves.....

This is getting better than.....................Obama didn't spy on the Trump administration!!!

 

[530RL]

Why would the refer to it as (in their words, not mine), "an accident" or "forgot", when it was actually "compliance" and "standard practice".....


Why were there no charges?.... gee golly i can't imagine why they wouldn't prosecute themselves.....

Excellent. Another conspiracy theory to support the existing conspiracy theory. The government doesn’t prosecute themselves.

The circle of life.

 

[brgrcru]

Excellent. Another conspiracy theory to support the existing conspiracy theory. The government doesn’t prosecute themselves.

The circle of life.

Funny how all these conspiracy theories have come true .

 

[sprintcvx]

What's Trump guilty of again? What are the charges? Oh, that's right, supposedly fucking around on his wife and checking the wrong box...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1788710855288234229

 

[Racey]

 

[500bbc]

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[lbhsbz]

Lol

If they did not follow policy and or the law, why are there no charges? Because what they did was in compliance with standard practices!

You keep thinking that the fact that they wiped their phones, as was practice, they are guilty of some crime.

You make the same leap with the election. You argue that because all computers can be hacked, election computers must have been hacked and therefore Biden lost.

You can’t differentiate between possibility and actuality. You believe they are the same. Since China makes paper, there must be paper ballots for Biden.

It’s ingenious in theory as you don’t have to actually prove anything, just point out your theory is possible and therefore conclude it happened.

Is it your position that unless charges were/are filed, then no law was broken?

If someone shoplifts, and no charges are filed, does that mean that shoplifting is not against the law?

 

[Wedgy]

Correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn't a request/subpoena in place for the devices for IDK, a lawful search?

 

[rcmike]

Correct me if I am mistaken, but wasn't a request/subpoena in place for the devices for IDK, a lawful search?

Standard practice is more important than congressional subpoenas because it's (D)ifferent..