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A quick scan through that shows the study was about asthma, not autism. I'll have to read the whole thing tonight.
 

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Now it’s aluminum? It used to be thiomerisol containing mercury. We’ve known about avoiding aluminum in deodorants for a long time. The CDC’s agenda is to slowly eradicate everyone except the chosen few like Fraduci and Bill Gates, especially when they are funding all this research on the best way to control a society - they almost did it with the Covid-19 plandemic. Who can you trust anymore?
 

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As pointed out, aluminum in antiperspirants has been linked to neurological issues for some time. Even connected to Alzhiemers and such. Cooking in aluminum pots and pans over long term has also shown to be an issue. I would think putting some into a developing body could be bad. The thing is, it's like everything else, everyone's body chemistry is different. What may cause an issue in one, may have no, or very little, effect on others.

There are a host of things they are finding out now about possible causes. Most recently there is a class action suite about the use of aspirin during pregnancy. As with most class action suits, the lawyers will get fat, and nothing will change for the effected. Maybe it will change the warnings some?

It used to be age of the mother was the highest risk for autism in a child. Maybe that was actually due to the buildup of chemicals in the mother's body. Now, the number of identified cases in younger parents has been on the rise for years. Maybe a connection to the chemicals in packaged food, consumed from early ages? Maybe due to the amounts of drugs, prescribed, OTC or recreational, used by society?

There is a big connection as well between mothers having surgeries or procedures while pregnant. Generally speaking, this is avoided due to the "unknown" damage that can be caused. Even for the short time being under sedation, the bodies of both mother and child see it as trauma. Which, it is. The difference being the chemicals put in to numb the pain or reduce consciousness.
 

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Autism is genetic, no matter what the expert Jenny McCarthy says. The head top big dog autism research dude ( who has an autistic kid) can predict autism in utero. It just presents at the age of vaccine introductions.
 

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Last Month it was Tylenol , My Grandson is high functioning autistic and my absolute genius Son whom I work with daily showed some signs early on although 30 years a go with just thought he was "different" Bill Gates was autistic , Coolchange is right ^^^ IMO
 

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A quick scan through that shows the study was about asthma, not autism. I'll have to read the whole thing tonight.

Yeah nothing about autism in the report Racey linked (thanks) I can see.

This happens a lot.
A third party grabs a report and " interprets it".
Then they make a headline with their interpretations and cite a report - then its up to you to do all the work.
 

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Discuss.
I didn't read the study above but, one of my best friends since Kindergarten was the CSO for Autism Speaks. He discovered a gene, when he worked for Wyeth, that completely dubunked the vaccine related injuries(autism) and shows it is in the gene to begin with. Or something like that. Lol. He was getting too many death threats from conspiracy theorists when he was with Autism Speaks so, he quit a few years ago. The biggest thing that has changed is the size of the scope of the spectrum. There used to only be 40 or 50 behavioral signs that would put you on the spectrum. Now, that umbrella has been stretched out to over 130. All about the medication and the money, not so much the kids anymore.
 

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I think we can all agree Autism is awful. My son is very low functioning Autistic. He’s soon to be 20 years old and non-verbal. It breaks my heart that I’ve never heard his voice or heard him say “Dad.” Every day is a struggle for him to interact with society yet he wakes up ready to be comfortable being uncomfortable if that makes any sense. He’s my hero and inspiration.

I hope some day we can find a legit cause and treatment. It’s an awful diagnosis and is hell for families in the more severe cases like my sons.
 

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If you want to see a great biopic on someone with autism watch Temple Grandin, she was an absolute genius, but her brain worked on a different level than everyone else's. I won't lie, even a badass like myself needed a few kleenex. It's worth your time.
 

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A slight thread jack but recently My Gandsons maternal Grandfather (that hes never met ) passed "Todd" was aparently an outdoorsman and the ensuing stories motivated My GS to become interested in Guns . The Grand kids come to the ranch almost every weekend and so He when ask me to teach him about guns and "safe handling" I said sure . When I brought out the empty Model 29 for some instructional , He went into a minor "episode" hid in the man cave under a blanket till my Son Josh could "talk him down" (just scared) so the following week I bought him his first "weapon" He loved it 😍
 

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I transferred the whole study article into Word and searched for "autism." It is nowhere in the study. Not sure why the author of the Natural News article felt the need to include it in the title and first paragraph of his piece.
 

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I transferred the whole study article into Word and searched for "autism." It is nowhere in the study. Not sure why the author of the Natural News article felt the need to include it in the title and first paragraph of his piece.
Because autism is scarier than asthma and will produce more hits and more hits equals more $$$. Welcome to the world of misinformation through misleading headlines.
 

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We did however decide to split them up to avoid the high contents some of them both contain. Aluminum being the main one.
We are all fighting this here also, brother.

I have been spacing my 1 year olds as well. Ironically, we just canceled an appt this morning, as I dont feel like pissing her off today and to be honest, my wife and I have talked that maybe we will skip this bullshit all together. and homeschool.

After the train wreck with this Covid vax, I am not comfortable with ANYTHING a Dr. or the CDC recommends.

Funny story, my daughter at 3 weeks old was so fussy and cryed 24/7. I said, its probably this shitty Similac formula the hospital sent us home with. I ordered European Formula, Hipp, and had it overnighted.

Next night, 8 hours sleep!! WTF! And guess what, its "illegal" to get European formula. She has been on it now ever since.

I told the pediatrician, who by the way is very well respected in Orange County. She says "Dont tell anyone, but thats what I do for my baby also". I was like "Why did you send us home with this corn syrup bullshit you peddle?". She says "Because we are TOLD to. I have no choice."

OK, that opened my eyes to what is happening even more!
 

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Not what I wanted to see this morning, my kid is 10 weeks old and getting his second round of i think dtap and hib today.

We went back and forth on what to and not to do. Now this... great....
Fake news.

CDC did not confirm.
 

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We are all fighting this here also, brother.

I have been spacing my 1 year olds as well. Ironically, we just canceled an appt this morning, as I dont feel like pissing her off today and to be honest, my wife and I have talked that maybe we will skip this bullshit all together. and homeschool.

After the train wreck with this Covid vax, I am not comfortable with ANYTHING a Dr. or the CDC recommends.

Funny story, my daughter at 3 weeks old was so fussy and cryed 24/7. I said, its probably this shitty Similac formula the hospital sent us home with. I ordered European Formula, Hipp, and had it overnighted.

Next night, 8 hours sleep!! WTF! And guess what, its "illegal" to get European formula. She has been on it now ever since.

I told the pediatrician, who by the way is very well respected in Orange County. She says "Dont tell anyone, but thats what I do for my baby also". I was like "Why did you send us home with this corn syrup bullshit you peddle?". She says "Because we are TOLD to. I have no choice."

OK, that opened my eyes to what is happening even more!
Doctors are no longer healers, they are stooges and pushers for the pharma industry because the money says so, not because they want to.

Try being an independent doctor. You’ll be unhireable in short order.

If you want to be an independent doctor these days you’d need to be a veterinarian.

I feel for all my med school friends that became doctors. Yeah they make a lot of money but they aren’t saving the world the way they thought they’d be.
 

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Doctors are no longer healers, they are stooges and pushers for the pharma industry because the money says so, not because they want to.

Try being an independent doctor. You’ll be unhireable in short order.

If you want to be an independent doctor these days you’d need to be a veterinarian.

I feel for all my med school friends that became doctors. Yeah they make a lot of money but they aren’t saving the world the way they thought they’d be.

I’ll take the Mayo Clinic Team over your horse doctor any day. 😉
 

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If you want to see a great biopic on someone with autism watch Temple Grandin, she was an absolute genius, but her brain worked on a different level than everyone else's. I won't lie, even a badass like myself needed a few kleenex. It's worth your time.
Asperger's Syndrome is now under the umbrella of Autism. Last year, Elon Musk went public with the fact he has "Asperger's". He has done a few interviews talking about it. Love him or hate him, he's brilliant.

In reading, Asperger's is kind of a form of high functioning Autism. It seems to relate to how someone's mind processes information. It's a hard concept to wrap your head around, someone "feels" or "sees" things differently...not just in a figurative sense. Loud noises, crowds, different things effect them differently. Some high functioning Autistic people have problems communicating, not in the same way as a non-verbal Autistic person, but at the same time, a lot alike.
 

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My oldest son is On the high end of the spectrum for autism. Most that meet him never know it but those that know us well all have seen it and know. We will never know what caused it obviously but I believe his case was genetic (from my wife’s dad). My wife’s Dad used to drive me absolutely bonkers But as my son has grown up I have realized that he ticks just like my son and now that I understand him i have a whole new level of patience and respect for him. His Dad beat the shit out of him because he was a “bad kid, didn’t listen, had melt downs etc” I’m no expert obviously but from all the reading and learning I have done on the subject my personal opinion is it is mostly genetic or from trauma in the womb or from trauma at birth. People will argue how much more common it is and will blame it on the vaccines. Are the numbers higher then 25 years ago? Absolutely. You have to realize how much more knowledge and information regarding autism there is these days. Autism awareness and research has made strides. We also have the internet which obviously has changed awareness tremendously. Population is much higher as well, and with that you will have more cases.

Everyone has there own opinion but having a kid on the spectrum and learning about it I don’t believe it’s vaccines. We do break our kids vaccines up individually though because I believe it is easier for kids to handle. We may never truly know though 🤷‍♂️

(I’m no English major, sorry 🤣)
 

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So basically the study proves aluminum does not cause Autism? I’m confused.
 

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My oldest son is On the high end of the spectrum for autism. Most that meet him never know it but those that know us well all have seen it and know. We will never know what caused it obviously but I believe his case was genetic (from my wife’s dad). My wife’s Dad used to drive me absolutely bonkers But as my son has grown up I have realized that he ticks just like my son and now that I understand him i have a whole new level of patience and respect for him. His Dad beat the shit out of him because he was a “bad kid, didn’t listen, had melt downs etc” I’m no expert obviously but from all the reading and learning I have done on the subject my personal opinion is it is mostly genetic or from trauma in the womb or from trauma at birth. People will argue how much more common it is and will blame it on the vaccines. Are the numbers higher then 25 years ago? Absolutely. You have to realize how much more knowledge and information regarding autism there is these days. Autism awareness and research has made strides. We also have the internet which obviously has changed awareness tremendously. Population is much higher as well, and with that you will have more cases.

Everyone has there own opinion but having a kid on the spectrum and learning about it I don’t believe it’s vaccines. We do break our kids vaccines up individually though because I believe it is easier for kids to handle. We may never truly know though 🤷‍♂️

(I’m no English major, sorry 🤣)


I agree with you for the most part but if it was genetic then identical twins diagnosed with Autism would both have autism then.

Diet has been a game changer in my son. I removed anything pumped up with preservatives like those full chickens that go from being an egg to ten pounds in three months 🤣

I’ve also cut any dairy or gluten way back. He’s been so much happier since.

Whatever the cause of autism is likely a combination of things in conjunction with genetics. Anything that flips a switch the way it does with these kids when they’re around two years old is going to be complex, to me anyways.
 

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I agree with you for the most part but if it was genetic then identical twins diagnosed with Autism would both have…
Incorrect. A mutation is an individual event (if it’s indeed a mutation). In the case of grandfather to grandson, with no known case between, infers a recessive gene. Or could be a combination of two recessive alleles. In either example, these have been studied with gene mapping and it’s inconclusive.
 

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I give my mom shit every time I see her for vaccinating me back in 1974.
 

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My kids are in there teens now. But we split up there shots. Mmr most important. The problem is finding a doctor that will do it
 

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My kids are in there teens now. But we split up there shots. Mmr most important. The problem is finding a doctor that will do it
Most kids have all their childhood vaccines by the time they are 3, my kids got their final childhood vaccine 1 month before kindergarten and that was our pediatricians doing, we didn't even have to ask.
 

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this has been known, but they went after you as an antivaxxer if you brought it up.........
 
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