Almost 3 month without late night “comedy” strike poll

[Angler]

Cheese burger.

 

[MPHSystems]

Longest strike in american history and I can’t find anyone who gives a truck.

 

[stephenkatsea]

Late Night Comedy? Seinfeld reruns still come on at 10 & 10:30pm on Ch 13. That's Good comedy and Late enough for me.

 

[timstoy]

Haven’t watched since Leno retired! Late night now is a extension of the Democratic Party!

 

[shintoooo]

This affects a lot more people than you think. I have a lot of clients in the entertainment business that are not in the union but their business is directly related to the industry. I'm talking about people who rent equipment, toilets, trailers and so on, the delivery drivers, the restaurants that feed the studios, the cooks, the cleaners, and and and and..... you get the point. A lot of these people live paycheck to paycheck in general and this is really hurting them. I hope these assholes at the top get it figured out soon because it's not about them really, it's about all the people the industry supports that are hurting right now.

 

[Dunerking]

This affects a lot more people than you think. I have a lot of clients in the entertainment business that are not in the union but their business is directly related to the industry. I'm talking about people who rent equipment, toilets, trailers and so on, the delivery drivers, the restaurants that feed the studios, the cooks, the cleaners, and and and and..... you get the point. A lot of these people live paycheck to paycheck in general and this is really hurting them. I hope these assholes at the top get it figured out soon because it's not about them really, it's about all the people the industry supports that are hurting right now.

Well said..and aside from all of the BS that networks try to ingrain into their audience they still employee directly and indirectly millions of people nationwide(myself being one SAG and Local 80 member) I’ve been off of work since June 17th and was scheduled to start a major feature film in mid July thru next July. It’s still scheduled for a “Go” but first need to get all of the negotiations settled. Fortunately we have always lived within our means but still have cut back on our summer trips. But I’m sure many don’t and for those I hope things get settled sooner than later with both sides coming to happy ground.

 

[MPHSystems]

This affects a lot more people than you think. I have a lot of clients in the entertainment business that are not in the union but their business is directly related to the industry. I'm talking about people who rent equipment, toilets, trailers and so on, the delivery drivers, the restaurants that feed the studios, the cooks, the cleaners, and and and and..... you get the point. A lot of these people live paycheck to paycheck in general and this is really hurting them. I hope these assholes at the top get it figured out soon because it's not about them really, it's about all the people the industry supports that are hurting right now.

It’s a bummer for the supporting businesses, but they have nobody to blame except for the writers who, instead of doing the one job, which was to make us laugh, push their anti-American ideology, which nobody wants to watch. If people actually watched late night comedy, there would be more money for everybody and this strike would probably have never happened.

 

[Happy Smitty]

What's late night comedy?

 

[DLC]

@MPHSystems

What about “ RD Sucks “ in the poll….

asking for a friend that …..

 

[Bobby V]

It’s a bummer for the supporting businesses, but they have nobody to blame except for the writers who, instead of doing the one job, which was to make us laugh, push their anti-American ideology, which nobody wants to watch. If people actually watched late night comedy, there would be more money for everybody and this strike would probably have never happened.

You do realize the writers that are out of work aren’t just late night comedy writers?

 

[MPHSystems]

You do realize the writers that are out of work aren’t just late night comedy writers?

Have you seen a sitcom? Have you watched any TV? Have you been to the movies? They almost all write like that. And nobody wants to watch that shit.


buggy whips

 

[Bobby V]

Have you seen a sitcom? Have you watched any TV? Have you been to the movies? They almost all write like that. And nobody wants to watch that shit.


buggy whips

Yes to all 3 questions. I pick and choose what I watch and have no problem with some of the shows. Since I retired a couple months ago I have been watching a lot of great shows / movies on Netflix, Paramount, HBO… These shows don't write themselves.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yes to all 3 questions. I pick and choose what I watch and have no problem with some of the shows. Since I retired a couple months ago I have been watching a lot of great shows / movies on Netflix, Paramount, HBO… These shows don't write themselves.

They will soon .

Yore not helping you union brothers and sisters by watching Netflix.

 

[MPHSystems]

Yes to all 3 questions. I pick and choose what I watch and have no problem with some of the shows. Since I retired a couple months ago I have been watching a lot of great shows / movies on Netflix, Paramount, HBO… These shows don't write themselves.

No, they don’t but neither does 90% of the crap that is just left wing dribble.

My 13 year old wanted to watch Djengo unchained last night because of memes he’s seen. We watched Joe Dirt instead. After a 65 hr work week, I just didn’t have the energy to unpack it for him. Entertaining movie to be sure. Fantasy and unrealistic with heaping scoops of subtle anti-Caucasian, anti-american indoctrination as the running theme. That crap will rot a 13-year-old brain.

 

[Bobby V]

They will soon .

Please explain. Just curious.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Please explain. Just curious.

These people took it in the shorts laughing at streaming services last go around.

The writers are worried about AI taking their writing jobs. That probably just affects writers, and not necessarily other attached business.. yet.

Potentially AI could develop and render entire shows in the future.. eliminating actors and all those ancillary jobs.

 

[RitcheyRch]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

He needs a hat to hold onto.

 

[traquer]

There's filming going on out here in Hungary in the sticks currently... Looks like they're getting shit done, Hollywood is a long ways away lol. Couldn't tell if there were actors on set though or if they were just doing some special effects type filming

 

[Flying_Lavey]

The SAG strike is the one that REALLY pisses me off. They are striking because of residuals. Are you kidding me? Everytime someone watches (aka uses) your work you feel you deserve to get paid? How does that make sense? That doesn't work with ANY other profession.

 

[530RL]

The SAG strike is the one that REALLY pisses me off. They are striking because of residuals. Are you kidding me? Everytime someone watches (aka uses) your work you feel you deserve to get paid? How does that make sense? That doesn't work with ANY other profession.

You mean like any other patented or copyrighted intellectual property?

 

[Flying_Lavey]

You mean like any other patented or copyrighted intellectual property?

And unlike those, actors get paid up front at the time of service rendered. Like any other person performing a service. Yet an actor does not have a patent nor a copywrite to their performance. Just like a framer doesn't have a copywrite or patent on his work at your house and get paid everytime you use the front door he hung.

 

[Shlbyntro]

And unlike those, actors get paid up front at the time of service rendered. Like any other person performing a service. Yet an actor does not have a patent nor a copywrite to their performance. Just like a framer doesn't have a copywrite or patent on his work at your house and get paid everytime you use the front door he hung.

you may be on to something there!

a lot of patent holders do receive up front licensing fees in addition to royalties tho.

residuals are fine, but they should be capped at a certain length of time like a patent is. But I also think some are paid far too much anyway so

 

[Flying_Lavey]

you may be on to something there!

a lot of patent holders do receive up front licensing fees in addition to royalties tho.

residuals are fine, but they should be capped at a certain length of time like a patent is. But I also think some are paid far too much anyway so

But those patent holders negotiate their contract based on the product they have already developed (not past products).

 

[HST4ME]

Turned the brainwash box off almost twenty years ago.....wish I could do the same with my phone.

 

[77charger]

Don’t care I’m asleep by then anyways f them.

 

[Bobby V]

Don’t care I’m asleep by then anyways f them.

You sleep all day and night. This is a writers strike. It affects all tv shows, movies…

 

[530RL]

And unlike those, actors get paid up front at the time of service rendered. Like any other person performing a service. Yet an actor does not have a patent nor a copywrite to their performance. Just like a framer doesn't have a copywrite or patent on his work at your house and get paid everytime you use the front door he hung.

There is a copyright on pretty much every piece of creative work done in those industries and someone owns that content whether it be a movie, a song, a TV show or whatever. Seinfeld makes a fortune every year off residuals as do all types of actors.

Every time a song is downloaded, a book is downloaded, a re-run is shown or a movie is repeated the owner of that content is getting paid over and over and the artist now wants their piece in addition to the payment up front.

Historically the movie studios and other organizations like a recording studio have owned that intellectual property and have taken exactly your position. I paid you once for your performance so I get all the money every time I charge someone to show it as a repeat. Given how big the numbers are for old shows, old recordings and other recorded performances, the actors have figured out that is where the money is and want a piece of the continuing payments every time the owner gets paid for the content.

I don’t have a dog in the fight, but I do understand the economic argument by the actors/recording artist/content producers. At the end of the day it is a negotiation over who gets what of all the cash flows over the economic life of the content being sold over and over again. This is not about old shows and old deals, that ownership is set. This is about how to split up the future cash flows from content being created going forward.

 

[grumpy88]

There is a copyright on pretty much every piece of creative work done in those industries and someone owns that content whether it be a movie, a song, a TV show or whatever. Seinfeld makes a fortune every year off residuals as do all types of actors.

Every time a song is downloaded, a book is downloaded, a re-run is shown or a movie is repeated the owner of that content is getting paid over and over and the artist now wants their piece in addition to the payment up front.

Historically the movie studios and other organizations like a recording studio have owned that intellectual property and have taken exactly your position. I paid you once for your performance so I get all the money every time I charge someone to show it as a repeat. Given how big the numbers are for old shows, old recordings and other recorded performances, the actors have figured out that is where the money is and want a piece of the continuing payments every time the owner gets paid for the content.

I don’t have a dog in the fight, but I do understand the economic argument by the actors/recording artist/content producers. At the end of the day it is a negotiation over who gets what of all the cash flows over the economic life of the content being sold over and over again. This is not about old shows and old deals, that ownership is set. This is about how to split up the future cash flows from content being created going forward.

So do you think every athlete should get residules for every replaying of a sporting event ? This is a very slippery precedent .

 

[Shlbyntro]

So do you think every athlete should get residules for every replaying of a sporting event ? This is a very slippery precedent .

do you think people who dress up and play pretend or play children's games should make millions of dollars a year?

don't like it, quit paying for it and there won't be any money for them to squabble over.

 

[Dunerking]

And unlike those, actors get paid up front at the time of service rendered. Like any other person performing a service. Yet an actor does not have a patent nor a copywrite to their performance. Just like a framer doesn't have a copywrite or patent on his work at your house and get paid everytime you use the front door he hung.

Well we will use your mentioning about the framer reference…the developer doesn’t receive royalties from that certain project every time it’s sold or used…but what it seems you don’t understand is that film producers do receive money every time those actors and writers image or story is used…this is why those crafts should be compensated. And more than likely your audience is watching this film because of the actors or story(writers).

 

[Dunerking]

Side note I’m starting to hear mumbling of be prepared to see this go to January.

 

[530RL]

So do you think every athlete should get residules for every replaying of a sporting event ? This is a very slippery precedent .

Re-runs of sporting events do not generate much revenue.

But if they did, I guarantee you the players union would certainly be arguing that the players should get a cut of it. And objectively I would understand the economic argument.

 

[grumpy88]

do you think people who dress up and play pretend or play children's games should make millions of dollars a year?

don't like it, quit paying for it and there won't be any money for them to squabble over.

I agree . I think both professions are grossly over paid and over prioritized by people .

 

[4Waters]

He made a good amount of money and didn't invest it properly. Sounds like his problem

 

[77charger]

You sleep all day and night. This is a writers strike. It affects all tv shows, movies…

Still don’t care real talent can write their own shit. I got a radio to kill time

 

[MPHSystems]

Still couldn’t care less.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Quick factoid, Jimmy Kimmel has been paying his crew every single week since the strike started. He's a douche but that's pretty cool of him.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Hollywood studios, writers near agreement to end strike, hope to finalize deal Thursday, sources say

While optimistic, the people noted, however, that if a deal is not reached the strike could last through the end of the year.

www.cnbc.com

Breaking

 

[TPC]

Adam Corolla on YouTube or the podcast.
His take on NFL players with smartphones sending dickpix to women:

"If you leave a box of loaded pistols in a monkey cage at the zoo,,, eventually you'll hear gunshots"

 

[TPC]

There is a copyright on pretty much every piece of creative work done in those industries and someone owns that content whether it be a movie, a song, a TV show or whatever. Seinfeld makes a fortune every year off residuals as do all types of actors.

Every time a song is downloaded, a book is downloaded, a re-run is shown or a movie is repeated the owner of that content is getting paid over and over and the artist now wants their piece in addition to the payment up front.

Historically the movie studios and other organizations like a recording studio have owned that intellectual property and have taken exactly your position. I paid you once for your performance so I get all the money every time I charge someone to show it as a repeat. Given how big the numbers are for old shows, old recordings and other recorded performances, the actors have figured out that is where the money is and want a piece of the continuing payments every time the owner gets paid for the content.

I don’t have a dog in the fight, but I do understand the economic argument by the actors/recording artist/content producers. At the end of the day it is a negotiation over who gets what of all the cash flows over the economic life of the content being sold over and over again. This is not about old shows and old deals, that ownership is set. This is about how to split up the future cash flows from content being created going forward.

Netflix Nabs Seinfeld Streaming Rights in $500 Million-Plus Deal:​

Netflix Nabs Seinfeld Streaming Rights in $500 Million-Plus Deal

The exact amount has not been disclosed—but it’s more than the streaming giant shelled out for The Office or Friends, both of which it will soon lose in the U.S.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[Havasu Surfer]

No love lost. Once they started pushing the progressive/democrat agenda I stopped watching any of them. Could care less if they ever return. Plenty of other stuff to watch now a days.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Looks like the Writers Strike is coming to an end...

It’s A Deal! WGA & AMPTP Reach Tentative Agreement To End Writers Strike; Picketing Suspended

The Writers Guild has reached a tentative agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers to end its strike.

deadline.com

 

[DWC]

Looks like the Writers Strike is coming to and end...

It’s A Deal! WGA & AMPTP Reach Tentative Agreement To End Writers Strike; Picketing Suspended

The Writers Guild has reached a tentative agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers to end its strike.

deadline.com

Hopefully that gets a chunk of you guys back to work. Now it’s just the actors?

 

[HNL2LHC]

Looks like the Writers Strike is coming to an end...

It’s A Deal! WGA & AMPTP Reach Tentative Agreement To End Writers Strike; Picketing Suspended

The Writers Guild has reached a tentative agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers to end its strike.

deadline.com

Good to see that you and a few other members will be back in action soon Dan.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Hopefully that gets a chunk of you guys back to work. Now it’s just the actors?

Yes... But I don't think that should be a problem...

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Good to see that you and a few other members will be back in action soon Dan.

Thank you, Tim... Yeah, lots of people just want to get back to work.

 

[Dunerking]

Good to see that you and a few other members will be back in action soon Dan.

Hopefully SAG gets their deal settled soon and we all can get back to work. I hope but not holding my breathe that when the IATSE contracts are up next year that the WGA and SAG stand behind them like the IATSE did.

 

[4Waters]

I think 399's contract is up next year sometime.

 

[NicPaus]

Just talked with the neighbor. Said word is they still might not be working until next year. Writers came to agreement but not signed or something like that. Actors still on strike. Said quite a few of his coworkers were hurting bad trying to pay there mortgage and bills. He said maybe January he will be in Texas on a job.