AirBNB people are crap

[JayBreww]

If I was the renter I would have only given YOU the option to cancel the contract and while you were stewing on it I would find another rental and move on with my plans. If you cancel you eat the fee, If you didn't cancel, the last day I could cancel without penalty I would as I already secured another rental. It became a game, learn to play it.

I woulda said it’s gunna cost you $150, and made money off the bargain.

 

[clarence]

I mean who really gives AF about some billion dollar company and "their system?"

random stranger on AirBNB

Society works because contracts don't distinguish between parties.

Imagine you'd looked AirBNB and your guest in the eye and shook their hand.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Joe - love you man but If I were I would not have pushed as hard. It was yoRe change that started it. You could have just started a go fund me to cover the loss. I might hope that a friend will help me out but never expect anything from a stranger.

The saying you gotta pay to play comes to mind. I will be happy to buy you a couple of drinks the next time we are together.

It’s really not that difficult. Costs about $20 a year at Staples and a little bit of discipline. Use a pencil and accept whatever ramifications arise from your decisions to use the eraser.

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Oh no then you run the risk of paper cuts…

Are you out, this weekend?

What about Crazy Tim - @HNL2LHC

we need to grab a mud shark….
or a
College Street
or a
Blue Chair….

at the very least a Coldie

LOL

”Crazy Tim”. LOL I guess that I have a new nickname somehow. LOL. You two shall be now known as Doug-Don @DLC and Don-Doug @DWC. I will be back at the end of next month. The wife is in Havasu if your wife’s are with you and want to enjoy the sanity while :Crazy Tim“ is out of town.

 

[white tortilla]

He didnt book somewhere else to save money. OSB initiated the cancellation.

I was saying after being cancelled he was forced to rebook and we don’t know if he came out ahead or behind on dollars of his original reservation.

 

[counterpart7]

Thank you Dave, it was definitely one of those days yesterday. Today much better. Off to get my van serviced and hit taco Tuesday while I wait. Might have a Cadillac or 3, then come back in here and talk crap to @RiverDave for calling me a communist

Not really trying to be that big of a dick here, but let me get this straight…

Yesterday you were complaining about $279, but today you’re going to basically brag about going to get tacos and drinks(I assume upwards of $100 if you’re getting Cadillac margs) for lunch?

Sounds like theres ways you can offset your “cost of doing business fee”…

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Not really trying to be that big of a dick here, but let me get this straight…

Yesterday you were complaining about $279, but today you’re going to basically brag about going to get tacos and drinks(I assume upwards of $100 if you’re getting Cadillac margs) for lunch?

Sounds like theres ways you can offset your “cost of doing business fee”…

It was a joke and tacos are $1 today, house margs $5. Will be less than a #1 at In & Out.

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Sounds like the renter is the type of guy that orders his bacon by the pound?

 

[counterpart7]

It was a joke and tacos are $1 today, house margs $5. Will be less than a #1 at In & Out.

Fair enough!

I had tacos and 2 Cadillacs the other day and it was $75… crazy world we live in.

 

[Big B Hova]

I rented Joe's house before. He wasn't a communist.

 

[DMF]

I just want to offer some different perspectives here..

I think the premise that the old timer is the problem is absolutely crazy.. as others have said.

You cancelled the contract you should pay the cancellation fee.. it’s there for a reason. More to the point if this guy is willing to long term rent like that I think I would have told him “I am really sorry for the inconvenience this year but I will make it worth your while to book next year!” To try and preserve the customer?

Which then takes us into the I rent the house as a courtesy bullshit.. what are ya sharing the havasu experience to the poor souls that don’t get it often? No.. it’s rented as a source of income to offset or even profit off owning the property as a whole? There’s nothing charitable about this?

Now I want to dive into some other stuff that I see often (not only with Joe). The fees are absolutely ridiculous!!! Book privately to save on fees!!

The fees aren’t ridiculous.. that’s the price of marketing and insurance.. those guys pioneered and built a system from scratch (not cheap or easy) that allows you to market your property to clients literally all over the world. Do they not deserve to get paid for that effort?

If the fees are too much, then use another system. To get business from those systems and then work deals on the side though never sits right with me.. and yes I know everyone does it.

Moving forward we get to the part where it’s been booked through Airbnb less than the amount of times that can be counted on one hand.

Well that pretty much leaves Vrbo, rdp, and personal social network.

Somewhere in the middle of that shitstorm of being attacked by rdp members the rope a dope defense came out that rdp members are mostly renting the house….

But then I think back to the “who gives a shit about a billion dollar company” comment.. and I wonder at what level of success do we care or not care? Because the compassion for a fellow man and I got kids speech is tuggin at my heart strings..

then I realize I got kids and I’m not a billionaire.. and I’m responsible for a considerable amount of not a majority of bookings.. and I never even got a thank you let alone compensation or gifts out of it..

So I’m wondering is my letting this shit on here creating a sense of entitlement? Creating a socialist or even possibly a communist ideology of anti capitalism? Deterring entrepreneurship because everything should be free?

Then to take it a step further to get upset that the guy wouldn’t lie and be mad about the cancellation fee..

At this point we are on two different planets on the logic train. That is past even the communist concept.. now we are angry at a guy because you changed the terms and he wouldn’t lie? That’s not even commie, that’s straight entitled?? Beyond??

Whole thing is crazy.

To add to that you are in the mortgage industry? It’s not like you aren’t familiar with contracts and changes etc? Penalties etc?

RD

If I could triple like this comment I would!!!! As a small business owner myself, I'm shaking my head at this thread!

 

[DWC]

Blink twice Joe, blink twice

 

[DWRAT]

I think the renter was 100% correct in this situation.
If you "the owner" needs to cancel you should get charged.
You come on here acting like your in the right but in-fact you "the owner" are 100% wrong.
You "the owner" pulled a real DICK move in my opinion.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Blink twice Joe, blink twice
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Look at all the people that never post coming out of the wood works to take their shot?!!

 

[DLC]

I thought we would be at 7-8 pages by now…..

 

[DWC]

I thought we would be at 7-8 pages by now…..

It’s a little slow midday. It’ll pick up later this afternoon/evening.

 

[Bigbore500r]

We have been super fortunate to have a great base of repeat renters at our house. Most have rented from us for years now and a lot from RDP.

I just happened to get a request for 44 nights starting 1/15/25 - 2/28/25.

Today I tried to cancel the reservation on AirBNB, as we have decided to use OUR HOUSE during the dates and it's a $279 fee to me on next payout. Here is my text thread with him.

Society is literally going to shit. No one has any compassion to a fellow man anymore. Sad world we live in.

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Only made it thru 2 pages of the replies....

Sucks, but I wouldn't ask the renter to cancel or have any of that conversation, risking my Airbnb account. I've had to pay it too, when I fucked up and left my listing on "instant book" and my families vacation dates were booked at random before I could block them out. My fault for not updating my calendar, as much as it sucks. I've also offered guests 50% off stays for difeerent dates, to reconcile booking mishaps and keep my reputation good on booking platforms. At the end of the day, your listings reputation and host score are what's more important than the $279.

It would be nice to skip the fees and get them to initiate cancellation, but it's not the renters fault and that conversation wouldn't look too good if they forwarded the situation to Airbnb support for resolution.. I'd just pay the fee and not blow up your Airbnb account or rating....

 

[Deckin Around]

Exactly, We have 3 homes Anaheim hills, Palm Desert and Havasu.. The 1st thing people always ask is if we rent it out. heck no, Its our home to use and not rent to strangers. i guess we're the odd ones we'll just go be rich somewhere else.

fixed

You could have just started a go fund me to cover the loss.

Best comment. I'm surprised there wasn't a link in the 1st post

I'm not saying the OP handled it correctly, I just hate that the renter can agree to a contract and get out of it free but the property owner can't, that's ridiculous.

FYI, no. The renter has the ability to setup their own cancelation policy for their rentals ranging from "flexible" to "super strict". We did this when we rented our riverhouse. These are some examples:

Non-refundable option​

Some Hosts earn more money by adding a non-refundable option to their listings.

Super Strict 30 days​

• Guests must cancel at least 30 days before check-in to receive a 50% refund for all nights
• If they cancel after that, you’ll be paid 100% for all nights

Super Strict 60 days​

• Guests must cancel at least 60 days before check-in to receive a 50% refund for all nights
• If they cancel after that, you’ll be paid 100% for all nights

 

[2Driver]

The whole home short term rental thing is giant fucking turd on single family living.

I hope the person who came up with this shit rots in hell with a perpetual asshole for a neighbor

 

[cofooter]

Isn't this a boating forum? Just go to the river and don't sweat the small stuff!!!

 

[Jonas Grumby]

AIRBNB SUCK, I HOPRE THEY CHARGE YOU DOUBLE. Try living next to one.

 

[Big B Hova]

AIRBNB SUCK, I HOPRE THEY CHARGE YOU DOUBLE. Try living next to one.

Don't hate the player, hate the game!

 

[ChiliPepperGarage]

The bottom line is, you made a commitment and then inconvenienced the customer by reneging on that commitment and canceling his reservation. Now he has to spend a bunch of time finding another place.

Then you asked the total stranger for a favor requiring him to do more work and commit fraud by lying to AirBnB. Then when this total stranger declined you got upset. The cancelation fee does not go the renter either, AirBnB keeps it. Not sure why you (and some others) can't grasp this.

What you should have done is honor your commitment and find another AirBnB place to rent yourself.

 

[El Rojo]

Isn't this a boating forum? Just go to the river and don't sweat the small stuff!!! View attachment 1410291

Some renters were trying but the OP cancelled thier reservations, then asked if they could tell AirBnB that they decided to cancel, not the OP...

 

[brianwhiteboy]

All I know is if my RDP membership gets cancelled, I’d better get half of the cancellation fee coming my way

 

[RiverDave]

Thank you Dave, it was definitely one of those days yesterday. Today much better. Off to get my van serviced and hit taco Tuesday while I wait. Might have a Cadillac or 3, then come back in here and talk crap to @RiverDave for calling me a communist

I didn't call you a communist.. I said your sense of entitlement is out of control with regard to this scenario.. and it is? (and you continue to double down, now triple down on it.. LOL).

We aren't ever going to agree on this, like even a little bit and the more ya post on it the further we get apart on it.

I like ya buddy, and I'm not one to let a difference of opinion get in the way of friendship, but I think you are batshit crazy on the logic. (like way out there).

As far as the RE thing we provided a service and the fee's were paid for the job that was done (and as always we try to go above and beyond for all of our clients, where as most others in this town you are just a commission check).

Part of the positives and bonuses of using that service and being part of that community?

Ya found the house on rdp
Ya financed the house from an rdp member (owner carry originally)
Ya rent the house through rdp
Ya have never had a call out thread on an rdp member renting the house?
Ya have secured plenty of loan business from rdp (main business before things turn and have now started another business of which I'm hopeful you get some business through rdp to help ya get going)

What RE service would you have used that for the same fee's provides all that?

Is there anything else I can do for you, you commie bastard? . (j/k).

RD

 

[Bigbore500r]

Just wanted to ask - everyone realizes that vacation rentals existed before Airbnb, right? Lol

Kinda like there were Suburbans and Blazers before SUV's, and shootings before active shooter events

 

[Bigbore500r]

All I know is if my RDP membership gets cancelled, I’d better get half of the cancellation fee coming my way

RDP prefers that you cancel. Unless your Grads

 

[Big B Hova]

Just wanted to ask - everyone realizes that vacation rentals existed before Airbnb, right? Lol

Kinda like there were Suburbans and Blazers before SUV's, and shootings before active shooter events

Isn't every shooting an active shooting? Takes action to shoot no?

 

[RiverDave]

Just wanted to ask - everyone realizes that vacation rentals existed before Airbnb, right? Lol

Kinda like there were Suburbans and Blazers before SUV's, and shootings before active shooter events

Truth.. Had plenty of people renting the house next-door in the keys way before VRBO and AirBNB were a thing.

RD

 

[BHC Vic]

Look at all the people that never post coming out of the wood works to take their shot?!!

I have that same talent

 

[HNL2LHC]

The whole home short term rental thing is giant fucking turd on single family living.

I hope the person who came up with this shit rots in hell with a perpetual asshole for a neighbor

Now do ADUs and the affect on single family communities..….

 

[lakemadness]

The whole home short term rental thing is giant fucking turd on single family living.

I hope the person who came up with this shit rots in hell with a perpetual asshole for a neighbor

Well seeing as though AirBnB is valued at almost 100 Billion (nearly 30 billion more than the most valuable hotel chain, Marriott) I'm not sure the rest of the world necessarily agrees...

And the creator of AirBnB, didn't come up with this shit, he just came up with a better way to do this shit. And his neighbors are all billionaires too, probably assholes as well. So hopefully you should feel okay.

 

[wzuber]

The renter can cancel for free, fucking the owner out of rent but the owner can't cancel for free to use his own house.

It's up to the owner to set that specific limit in duration and fees from my experience w/a-b&b...that's w/in their control.

 

[wzuber]

I do love a good call out thread...

Called himself out no less.....inadvertantly...

 

[oldman]

I didn't call you a communist.. I said your sense of entitlement is out of control with regard to this scenario.. and it is? (and you continue to double down, now triple down on it.. LOL).

We aren't ever going to agree on this, like even a little bit and the more ya post on it the further we get apart on it.

I like ya buddy, and I'm not one to let a difference of opinion get in the way of friendship, but I think you are batshit crazy on the logic. (like way out there).

As far as the RE thing we provided a service and the fee's were paid for the job that was done (and as always we try to go above and beyond for all of our clients, where as most others in this town you are just a commission check).

Part of the positives and bonuses of using that service and being part of that community?

Ya found the house on rdp
Ya financed the house from an rdp member (owner carry originally)
Ya rent the house through rdp
Ya have never had a call out thread on an rdp member renting the house?
Ya have secured plenty of loan business from rdp (main business before things turn and have now started another business of which I'm hopeful you get some business through rdp to help ya get going)

What RE service would you have used that for the same fee's provides all that?

Is there anything else I can do for you, you commie bastard? . (j/k).

RD

 

[oldschool]

“Society is literally going to shit. No one has any compassion to a fellow man anymore. Sad world we live in.”
SWEET IRONY!
Maybe the old guy will breakdown somewhere on the lake and OSB can give him the bird as he motors on past. Give him a good double fuckin.

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

When I sell my house it’s going to be in the contract that the buyer can’t be an STR property management company. STRs are ruining neighborhoods.

 

[was thatguy]

In the span of 4 years next to a popular Airbnb I had:

1) people puking over the wall and falling off the wall drunk into my back yard. This was almost a daily occurrence during the Covid shutdown.

2) during the worst years (2020-2022) I collected trash and empties and clothes and towels most mornings and tossed them back over the wall.

3) From March 2020 to September 2020 I’d guess there was maybe 2-3 empty nights? This was the worst time. All the CA lockdowns were coming out and cutting loose.
I was home that whole time and bet I didn’t sleep more than 2-4 hours on any given night. Most nights not at all.
They’d go non stop for 3 days. Day and night screaming and music and fighting and drinking. 4-10 cars at all times coming and going. They’d leave and the cleaning crew would show up and just be aghast at the shit, and by 5 PM the next caravan would appear.

4) I had fireworks hit my work truck and start a small fire in my front yard in the middle of the night.

5) I watched a bunch of fat drink white boys with an ocean of bud light cans in the front yard drive their Traxxis trucks all over the neighbors landscaping fucking their yard all up.

6) back to fireworks…one of the countless times we made a group call the the police the idiots had the street shut down launching mortars while vehicles waited just to drive by.

7) I have video surveillance footage of some drunk idiots pit bulls jumping over the wall and running all around my patio fucking with my Traeger and everything else. I wasn’t home or I would have maced the dogs.

8) we must have had at least half a dozen neighborhood meetings in my front driveway trying to figure out what to do. All we could really do is keep calling the cops and the owner.

Even after Covid there were still nights and days when a lesser controlled man would have seriously lost his shit.
Imagine working 14 straight 15 hour days at a drilling site.
Driving 12 hours to get home for your days off.
And when you finally turn onto your street and can see your house…you’re greeted with a dozen cars overflowing into your yard and driveway, you can hear the screaming before you even get close, and have to call the cops and tow trucks to even park your car.

Mind you this was a good neighborhood with almost all home owners, most full time, some as a second home.
There was 2 STR in the immediate 4 blocks or more.
Both were nightmares.

The owner did listen to all my bitching. He was genuinely worried about losing his Airbnb status and rightly so.
He posted rule placards inside the house and on several occasions had the occupants removed.
But getting those Covid rates and booked every single night there was no way he was going to shut that down. Who would?

So yeah, that’s my experience and why I bought a house 50 miles away at the end of a road and did a thorough search for any short term rental before I made an offer.

I realize my experience is not at all like a lot of Airbnb houses, and this particular house is a fantastic party house…a lot of you know it well…

But imo if you want to make enemies of all your neighbors by all means rent your house out as an Airbnb.

When I think back I feel so blessed to be away from that.
It ruined Havasu for me.
A lot of people think it’s me being an old grouch.
They might think different at 3 AM when Roman candles are hitting their vehicles and they haven’t slept in 2-3 days.

I have to add, this is not some made up embellishment.
This is a VERY SMALL summary of what went on.

 

[was thatguy]

When I sell my house it’s going to be in the contract that the buyer can’t be an STR property management company. STRs are ruining neighborhoods.

When the home owner sold his house on the other side of me, he told me he took an offer over $50K less than was on the table to prevent another STR that the high offer had planned.
He didnt want his friends and neighbors subjected to any more of it.

 

[BHC Vic]

When I sell my house it’s going to be in the contract that the buyer can’t be an STR property management company. STRs are ruining neighborhoods.

It always kind of tripped me out the LOF was proud of helping to ruin his old neighborhood by selling to who he did. I don’t think I’ll ever understand that

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

In the span of 4 years next to a popular Airbnb I had:

1) people puking over the wall and falling off the wall drunk into my back yard. This was almost a daily occurrence during the Covid shutdown.

2) during the worst years (2020-2022) I collected trash and empties and clothes and towels most mornings and tossed them back over the wall.

3) From March 2020 to September 2020 I’d guess there was maybe 2-3 empty nights? This was the worst time. All the CA lockdowns were coming out and cutting loose.
I was home that whole time and bet I didn’t sleep more than 2-4 hours on any given night. Most nights not at all.
They’d go non stop for 3 days. Day and night screaming and music and fighting and drinking. 4-10 cars at all times coming and going. They’d leave and the cleaning crew would show up and just be aghast at the shit, and by 5 PM the next caravan would appear.

4) I had fireworks hit my work truck and start a small fire in my front yard in the middle of the night.

5) I watched a bunch of fat drink white boys with an ocean of bud light cans in the front yard drive their Traxxis trucks all over the neighbors landscaping fucking their yard all up.

6) back to fireworks…one of the countless times we made a group call the the police the idiots had the street shut down launching mortars while vehicles waited just to drive by.

7) I have video surveillance footage of some drunk idiots pit bulls jumping over the wall and running all around my patio fucking with my Traeger and everything else. I wasn’t home or I would have maced the dogs.

8) we must have had at least half a dozen neighborhood meetings in my front driveway trying to figure out what to do. All we could really do is keep calling the cops and the owner.

Even after Covid there were still nights and days when a lesser controlled man would have seriously lost his shit.
Imagine working 14 straight 15 hour days at a drilling site.
Driving 12 hours to get home for your days off.
And when you finally turn onto your street and can see your house…you’re greeted with a dozen cars overflowing into your yard and driveway, you can hear the screaming before you even get close, and have to call the cops and tow trucks to even park your car.

Mind you this was a good neighborhood with almost all home owners, most full time, some as a second home.
There was 2 STR in the immediate 4 blocks or more.
Both were nightmares.

The owner did listen to all my bitching. He was genuinely worried about losing his Airbnb status and rightly so.
He posted rule placards inside the house and on several occasions had the occupants removed.
But getting those Covid rates and booked every single night there was no way he was going to shut that down. Who would?

So yeah, that’s my experience and why I bought a house 50 miles away at the end of a road and did a thorough search for any short term rental before I made an offer.

I realize my experience is not at all like a lot of Airbnb houses, and this particular house is a fantastic party house…a lot of you know it well…

But imo if you want to make enemies of all your neighbors by all means rent your house out as an Airbnb.

When I think back I feel so blessed to be away from that.
It ruined Havasu for me.
A lot of people think it’s me being an old grouch.
They might think different at 3 AM when Roman candles are hitting their vehicles and they haven’t slept in 2-3 days.

We have been in our neighborhood going on 6 years in a couple weeks. We have great relationships with all if our neighbors, my house and the one across from us are the only non full time homes.

Since our 2nd summer owning it, I always blocked the calendar out for summer to rent to RDP members, friends and family. I have seen first hand from friends at their properties, the crap that goes on. We never got into renting our house out as an income producing business, like most others have. It's terrible you had to deal with that, I would never want to put my neighbors through that kind of crap.

 

[oldschool]

We have been in our neighborhood going on 6 years in a couple weeks. We have great relationships with all if our neighbors, my house and the one across from us are the only non full time homes.

Since our 2nd summer owning it, I always blocked the calendar out for summer to rent to RDP members, friends and family. I have seen first hand from friends at their properties, the crap that goes on. We never got into renting our house out as an income producing business, like most others have. It's terrible you had to deal with that, I would never want to put my neighbors through that kind of crap.

Then why Air BnB it?

 

[riverroyal]

www.when threads go opposite of what you started it for. com
VRBOs and AIRBNBs have ruined some streets my friends live on. For that reason, I have my opinions.

 

[Icky]

I'm disappointed we're this many pages in without someone asking the renter to join RDP.

 

[Singleton]

Now do ADUs and the affect on single family communities..….

The average ADU in Carlsbad rents for over 1800 a month.
That has caused almost all apartments to increase rent.
The average 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment is over 2500.

A single family can’t afford that rent, that is the impact. Single parent household and it is even worse.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Then why Air BnB it?

We have been doing short term rentals at our house for 6 years now. We have been very selective with who we rent to, thus don't have issues like others have experienced. I choose to rent it out on a short term basis because it's nice to have income to offset mortgage, utilities, cleaning, maintenance, etc.

One day I won't need to rent it because I will be as rich as @checkrdpast but for now this is what we do.

 

[riverroyal]

I just want to offer some different perspectives here..

I think the premise that the old timer is the problem is absolutely crazy.. as others have said.

You cancelled the contract you should pay the cancellation fee.. it’s there for a reason. More to the point if this guy is willing to long term rent like that I think I would have told him “I am really sorry for the inconvenience this year but I will make it worth your while to book next year!” To try and preserve the customer?

Which then takes us into the I rent the house as a courtesy bullshit.. what are ya sharing the havasu experience to the poor souls that don’t get it often? No.. it’s rented as a source of income to offset or even profit off owning the property as a whole? There’s nothing charitable about this?

Now I want to dive into some other stuff that I see often (not only with Joe). The fees are absolutely ridiculous!!! Book privately to save on fees!!

The fees aren’t ridiculous.. that’s the price of marketing and insurance.. those guys pioneered and built a system from scratch (not cheap or easy) that allows you to market your property to clients literally all over the world. Do they not deserve to get paid for that effort?

If the fees are too much, then use another system. To get business from those systems and then work deals on the side though never sits right with me.. and yes I know everyone does it.

Moving forward we get to the part where it’s been booked through Airbnb less than the amount of times that can be counted on one hand.

Well that pretty much leaves Vrbo, rdp, and personal social network.

Somewhere in the middle of that shitstorm of being attacked by rdp members the rope a dope defense came out that rdp members are mostly renting the house….

But then I think back to the “who gives a shit about a billion dollar company” comment.. and I wonder at what level of success do we care or not care? Because the compassion for a fellow man and I got kids speech is tuggin at my heart strings..

then I realize I got kids and I’m not a billionaire.. and I’m responsible for a considerable amount of not a majority of bookings.. and I never even got a thank you let alone compensation or gifts out of it..

So I’m wondering is my letting this shit on here creating a sense of entitlement? Creating a socialist or even possibly a communist ideology of anti capitalism? Deterring entrepreneurship because everything should be free?

Then to take it a step further to get upset that the guy wouldn’t lie and be mad about the cancellation fee..

At this point we are on two different planets on the logic train. That is past even the communist concept.. now we are angry at a guy because you changed the terms and he wouldn’t lie? That’s not even commie, that’s straight entitled?? Beyond??

Whole thing is crazy.

To add to that you are in the mortgage industry? It’s not like you aren’t familiar with contracts and changes etc? Penalties etc?

RD

you need a hobby. lol. Spent way too much time thinking about this one.
Id be damn pissed to get cancelled on. Like major shit review on this one.

 

[oldman]

The average ADU in Carlsbad rents for over 1800 a month.
That has caused almost all apartments to increase rent.
The average 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment is over 2500.

A single family can’t afford that rent, that is the impact. Single parent household and it is even worse.

Slowly killing the single family home.

And the 2 bed 1 bath apartment that would be a single family with 2 cars is now sublet and is 4 adults with 4 cars on the street.

 

[TimeBandit]

The average ADU in Carlsbad rents for over 1800 a month.
That has caused almost all apartments to increase rent.
The average 2 bedroom, 1 bath apartment is over 2500.

A single family can’t afford that rent, that is the impact. Single parent household and it is even worse.

My post-hernia surgery instructions say to walk everyday, so now I've noticed a house two blocks from me that has three addresses painted on the curb / three mailboxes.

The house is rented out.
The garage is rented out.
The adu in the backyard with a rooftop deck is rented out.

I'm sure none of them are cheap because this is a very nice quiet neighborhood.

But how long before this is normal?

Investors are going to invest where they can make money. having three rentals gets a million dollar + property to the 1% rule.

 

[2Driver]

Well seeing as though AirBnB is valued at almost 100 Billion (nearly 30 billion more than the most valuable hotel chain, Marriott) I'm not sure the rest of the world necessarily agrees...

And the creator of AirBnB, didn't come up with this shit, he just came up with a better way to do this shit. And his neighbors are all billionaires too, probably assholes as well. So hopefully you should feel okay.

Could care leas how
much they made of fucking single family housing and neighborhoods hats off to them

LOL aint doing it Moonridge
though.