Active shooter in El Paso

[Waffles]

Walmart has a million cameras. That idiot either is lying for attention or the trauma fucked up his memory.




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Is the mexican lady that saw 4 guys dressed the exact same way looking for attention too? Or is it the trauma that fucked up her memory?

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[RiverDave]

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Shocker.. but the couple of lefties on here would never believe it.

 

[Outdrive1]

Is the mexican lady that saw 4 guys dressed the exact same way looking for attention too? Or is it the trauma that fucked up her memory?

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Fuck her too. [emoji6]. More fake news.


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[Outdrive1]

This won't stop until the left gets what they want......A society of people dependent on the government, a big brother / 1984 type society. They are systematically trying to strip our freedoms and it starts with the one way we can defend ourselves, guns.

Not 48 hours later and they are already using these shootings as a platform in their campaign against Trump.

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Who is they and what does the “left” have to do with this cocksucker? And yes something needs to be done. When kids are wearing bullet proof backpacks and doing practice drills for shooters. I dont care if its left, right, whatever, time for a change and you can blame the retards that are shooting people.


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[Long Way Home]

If all the Walmart shoppers were carrying assault weapons, this would not have happen.

 

[highvoltagehands]

It was at a bar. you can’t concealed carry in a drinking establishment. Clubs and bars are essentially gun free zones.

Hey RB, This didn't happen in any bar, club or mall. It all happened at Walmart.

Makes sense. I didn’t see anything about a bar... I thought it was a Walmart.

The punk started shooting in Walmart Parking lot, continued shooting inside the store and ended where he surrendered in Walmart parking lot.

The mall is a designated gun free zone.
And by extension so is the Walmart.
I’ve been in that Walmart many times.

C'mon WTG, Gun free By extension? Then why does that store sell rifles and ammo if it's considered a gun free zone?

 

[was thatguy]

Hey RB, This didn't happen in any bar, club or mall. It all happened at Walmart.

The punk started shooting in Walmart Parking lot, continued shooting inside the store and ended where he surrendered in Walmart parking lot.



C'mon WTG, Gun free By extension? Then why does that store sell rifles and ammo if it's considered a gun free zone?

Oh please.

 

[highvoltagehands]

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Getreal! This looks like a Trump tweet! Cutting and pasting anonymous source document doesn't carry any weight.

 

[WhatExit?]

The man accused of gunning down nearly two dozen Walmart shoppers in Texas has been open with authorities, willingly giving detectives answers about one of the worst mass murders in U.S. history, officials said Sunday.

While El Paso police chief Greg Allen declined to elaborate on what kind of statements are being made by alleged mass murderer (name redacted by me), the 21-year-old has apparently spoken freely.

This may be a clue to his "motive:" El Paso, the nation’s 22nd largest city with an estimated population of 682,669, is more than 80% Hispanic or Latino, according to U.S. Census data.


"He was forthcoming with information," Allen told reporters. "He basically didn’t hold anything back. Particular questions were asked and he responded in the way it needed to be answered."

Prosecutors said Sunday they'll seek capital punishment against (sub-human), who was arrested shortly after he allegedly killed 20 and wounded 26 by opening fire at a Walmart, filled with customers stocking up on back-to-school goods, at about 10:30 a.m. on Saturday.

"He is eligible for the death penalty, we will seek the death penalty," El Paso District Attorney Jaime Esparza told reporters. "The loss of life is so great we have never seen anything like this in our community."

 

[Waffles]

Getreal! This looks like a Trump tweet! Cutting and pasting anonymous source document doesn't carry any weight.

Sooooo what you're saying is that you're too lazy to do any research yourself.




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[Old Texan]

Getreal! This looks like a Trump tweet! Cutting and pasting anonymous source document doesn't carry any weight.

 

[highvoltagehands]

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Sooooo what you're saying is that you're too lazy to do any research yourself.
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Yes. I guess I am when comes to chasing a politically biased conspiracy theory down a rabbit hole. Is posting a Link too much to ask?

 

[Bpracing1127]

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Not that I am disagreeing with you but where are you finding this? Every news station is saying white supremacy

 

[was thatguy]

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Yes. I guess I am when comes to chasing a politically biased conspiracy theory down a rabbit hole. Is posting a Link too much to ask?[/QUOTE]

You are a smart guy. Do you really believe there is never any possibility that subterfuge exists?
My dad had a 20+ year career dealing strictly in gov subterfuge...it’s how things work.
NOTHING is as it seems.
That doesn’t mean everything is straight out of a Clancy novel, but it does mean that possibilities ALWAYS exist.
It’s a mistake to discount out of hand ANY possibilities just because you are unaware of what really goes on, and it seems incomprehensible to you.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Hey RB, This didn't happen in any bar, club or mall. It all happened at Walmart.

The punk started shooting in Walmart Parking lot, continued shooting inside the store and ended where he surrendered in Walmart parking lot.



C'mon WTG, Gun free By extension? Then why does that store sell rifles and ammo if it's considered a gun free zone?

Selling guns and allowing carrying of weapons are very different things. And BTW, most of the properties Walmart occupies are leased so policies like the Mall's gun free zone are forced upon Walmart due to them being a tenant.

When we lived in Arroyo Grande it was a big deal and people were pissed that "Walmart wasn't allowing the Salvation Army" to collect during Christmas. Well turns out it wasn't Walmart, it was the property owner that wasn't allowing it. Same thing here.

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[Cdog]

If all the Walmart shoppers were carrying assault weapons, this would not have happen.

Lol! Okay that’s funny!!

 

[was thatguy]

Selling guns and allowing carrying of weapons are very different things. And BTW, most of the properties Walmart occupies are leased so policies like the Mall's gun free zone are forced upon Walmart due to them being a tenant.

When we lived in Arroyo Grande it was a big deal and people were pissed that "Walmart wasn't allowing the Salvation Army" to collect during Christmas. Well turns out it wasn't Walmart, it was the property owner that wasn't allowing it. Same thing here.

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Which is exactly why I said that “by extension” that Walmart is a gun free zone.

HVH is just being obtuse. He knows the difference between purchase and carry.
He may not be aware that that mall is in fact a no carry zone and by extension so is the Walmart due to the reason you list.

Chill is just waving his racist crusader flag.

 

[WhatExit?]

“In the past 48hrs, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48hrs, we also lose…

500 to Medical errors
300 to the Flu
250 to Suicide
200 to Car Accidents
40 to Homicide via Handgun

Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.”

 

[MSum661]

 

[Waffles]

Mossad doesn't know what it wants. So who was it?

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[Waffles]

“In the past 48hrs, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48hrs, we also lose…

500 to Medical errors
300 to the Flu
250 to Suicide
200 to Car Accidents
40 to Homicide via Handgun

Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.”

NDT is fucking based



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[Carlson-jet]

Mossad doesn't know what it wants. So who was it? View attachment 783346

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Solid reporting by the MSM.

 

[YumaRivernaut]

Check this out. Sorry for the crappy picture. A friend sent it to me off his twatter page and I don't do business with those damned traitors.
Notice any similarities? These bastards could be triplets. This is getting really in your face folks. This is exactly what I spoke of in post #71. These soul devoid beta droids are being created. Don't believe your lying eyes. Revel in your cognitive dissonance and this shit is going to get worse. Ignore the patterns at your own peril.
Don't want to go down the "Rabbit Hole"?
If the Dachshund wants to catch the rabbit it MUST go down the hole!
Term "Rabbit Hole" from Alice in Wonderland and the "White Rabbit".
The movie is a well known oblique reference to CIA MK Ultra mind control program.
Good god what will it take to wake up " The Masses"?
"The Masses" can also be "spelled" "Them Asses". Note #1 in verb and noun definitions.
Spell:
[spel]
VERB
spells (third person present) · spelled (past tense) · spelled (past participle) · spelt (past tense) · spelt (past participle) · spelling (present participle)

1. write or name the letters that form (a word) in correct sequence.
   "Dolly spelled her name" · "journals have a house style about how to spell"
   • (of letters) make up or form (a word).
     "the letters spell the word ‘how’"
2. be a sign or characteristic of.
   "she had the chic, efficient look that spells Milan"
   • mean or have as a result.
     "the plans would spell disaster for the economy"
     synonyms:
     lead to · result in · bring about · bring on · cause · be the cause of · mean · amount to · add up to · constitute · signal · signify · point to · portend · augur · presage · herald · bode · promise · involve · betoken · harbinger · foretoken · forebode

ORIGIN
Middle English: shortening of Old Frenchespeller, from the Germanic base of spell2.
spell
[spel]
NOUN
spells (plural noun)

1. a form of words used as a magical charm or incantation.
   "a spell is laid on the door to prevent entry"
   synonyms:
   incantation · charm · conjuration · rune · magic formula · abracadabra · sorcery · magic · witchcraft · witchery · hex · mojo · makutu
   • a state of enchantment caused by a magic spell.
     "the magician may cast a spell on himself"
   • an ability to control or influence people as though one had magical power over them.
     "she is afraid that you are waking from her spell"
     synonyms:
     irresistible influence · fascination · magnetism · animal magnetism · charisma · allure · lure · charm · attraction · pull · draw · enticement · beguilement magic · romance · mystique · glamour

More high level ancient wordspell sorcery. The ghouls orchestrating these things laugh at us.

 

[YumaRivernaut]

Mossad doesn't know what it wants. So who was it? View attachment 783346

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The greatest deceiver of all, Lucifer. Coincidence? I say not. The Talmud allows this.

 

[Danger Dave]

Is there some sort of standard for making a tinfoil hat? Can I use the heavy duty tinfoil I have for my smoker and just wrap my RDP snapback in the tin foil or do I need to use a motorcycle helmet and wrap that in the heavy duty foil? This thread has me wondering.

 

[monkeyswrench]

To blame Mossad would be to place blame solely on outside forces. I am staying away from what blaming them really says of individuals...but that's neither here nor there. There are forces at work within our own country who's job is to deceive. Local LE employ non-sworn employees under DHS, who basically run multiple accounts on FB to spread false info and collect intel on individuals and groups. Tax payer funded, pension sucking, professional eavesdroppers. Welcome to the joys of social networking. Now, who freely put Google on the table, and marvels at how it listens?

The truth may be stranger than fiction, but not always far fetched or foreign.

 

[was thatguy]

Is there some sort of standard for making a tinfoil hat? Can I use the heavy duty tinfoil I have for my smoker and just wrap my RDP snapback in the tin foil or do I need to use a motorcycle helmet and wrap that in the heavy duty foil? This thread has me wondering.

Whatever it takes for you to realize that what you think impossible is standard fare in today’s world.

Or, like most people, just smoke some meat on that smoker and remain oblivious.

 

[YumaRivernaut]

Is there some sort of standard for making a tinfoil hat? Can I use the heavy duty tinfoil I have for my smoker and just wrap my RDP snapback in the tin foil or do I need to use a motorcycle helmet and wrap that in the heavy duty foil? This thread has me wondering.

Tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists just need to just STFU and guzzle the Kool Aid. That'll fix everything.

 

[spectra3279]

Horror movies, violent Video games, social media, doped out parents. Civilized Society doesn’t stand a chance anymore. Growing up in Lone Pine Ca we all had guns In our vehicle gun racks at school especially during hunting seasons. Nobody’s shit got stolen and nobody ever got shot or even threatened with gun violence and this was in the late 80s early 90s. Things sure have gotten fucked up in a very short time.

I grew up watching horror movies. I currently use video games as therapy. I have not killed anyone








Yet.

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[RodnJen]

Shocker.. but the couple of lefties on here would never believe it.

We'll see.

 

[BONER]

Wanna know how to stop mass shootings? Make sure George Soros is the Victim of the next one.

 

[was thatguy]

Anyone who doesn’t think it possible for governments to covertly influence political tides should do some general reading up on Service 7.

 

[j21black]

I hate that this is the world we live in. People need to start being aware where they are, and the exits. I am a bit more aware than others in my group. I usually know my exits, and where I am. I don’t go to the movies since downtown Disney close their theaters. My anxiety doesn’t let me enjoy the movie! They have security to get into downtown Disney and it use to give me (more) peace of mind.

I pray for everyone involved. Breaks my heart.

My wife tells people with us, kids, friends, whoever to move when we go inside anywhere if they have taken the last seat with any sight lines. She knows I refuse to have my back to the door or the people in the same building.

 

[WhatExit?]

What’s inside the hate-filled manifesto linked to the alleged El Paso shooter
from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...nifesto-linked-el-paso-shooter/?noredirect=on

Shortly before a gunman opened fire outside a Walmart in El Paso, killing 20 people and injuring dozens more, a manifesto believed to be linked to him was posted online. It railed against a “Hispanic invasion” and laid out a plan to divide the United States into territories based on race.

Authorities believe 21-year-old Patrick Crusius wrote the document, though they are still gathering evidence.

It begins by praising the manifesto of the gunman who killed 51 Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand earlier this year. That document cited a white supremacist theory known as “The Great Replacement,” which postulates that a secret group of elites is working to destroy the white race by replacing them with immigrants and refugees.

“This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas,” the manifesto says.

Local and Texas state officials spoke Aug. 4 about the shooting in El Paso the day before that left at least 20 people dead. (Reuters)
After a brief introduction, the 2,300-word manifesto is divided into five sections: political reasons for the attack, economic reasons, equipment that will be used to carry out the shooting, the expected reaction to the attack, and “personal reasons and thoughts.” Titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” the document is a jumble of positions and ideologies. In it, the writer warns of the dangers of environmental degradation, rails against corporate influence in the government and cautions against interracial marriage.

Under “political reasons,” the manifesto lambastes both Democrats and Republicans, suggesting the United States will soon become a one-party state run by Democrats because of the growing Hispanic population, the death of the baby-boom generation and the “anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right.” The author postulates that the growing Hispanic population in Texas will soon make it a solidly Democratic state, which he argues would all but assure repeated Democratic presidential victories.

“The Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate,” the manifesto says.

The document repeatedly rails against corporations, which the author says have taken over the government. The author criticizes Republicans for favoring corporations, but argues that “at least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced.”

Democratic presidential candidates blamed on Aug. 4 President Trump's "divisive rhetoric" for the back-to-back mass shootings. (The Washington Post)
The author also expresses fear over the impact automation will have on job opportunities and argues that immigrants should not be allowed to continue coming into the country as long as job opportunities are scarce. He argues that while immigrants often take menial jobs that Americans are unwilling to perform, their children seek better opportunities and often receive college degrees that allow them to obtain high-skill positions. The document again blames corporations for advocating for work visas for skilled workers and says they rely on immigrants to fill low-skilled positions.

In a jumbled rant, the document rails against corporations for destroying the environment by over-harvesting resources. The manifesto chastises the government for being unwilling to confront environmental issues and most Americans for being unwilling to change their lifestyles to be more environmentally friendly. It argues that the United States therefore needs fewer people consuming resources.

The author wrote that he planned to mainly rely on an AK-47 as his weapon for the shooting, noting that it overheats after about 100 rounds and that he would need a heat-resistant glove.

The manifesto notes that many migrants return to their home countries to reunite with family, arguing that “the Hispanic population is willing to return to their home countries if given the right incentive. An incentive that myself and many other patriotic Americans will provide.” The author writes that such terrorist attacks will “remove the threat of the Hispanic voting bloc.”

In the “personal reasons and thoughts” section, the author writes that he has spent his life preparing for a future that does not exist, though does not specify what that future would be. He ends on an anti-immigrant screed, worrying that Hispanics will take over the Texas government and says the Founding Fathers have given him the rights — presumably referring to the right to bear arms — to save the country from destruction.

“Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to repel the millions of invaders that plaque [sic] their country. They have no choice but to sit by and watch their countries burn,” the manifesto says.

Finally, the manifesto ends by decrying interracial couples and proposes separating the United States into territories based on race. The author points to white supremacist theories that “stronger and/or more appealing cultures overtake weaker and/or undesirable ones.”

The author expresses fear that he will be captured, rather than die during the shooting, because that would mean he would receive the death penalty and his family would despise him. And he stresses that he has maintained his white supremacist ideology for many years, predating President Trump and his 2016 campaign, which he says did not influence his reasons for carrying out the attack.

“This is just the beginning of the fight for America and Europe,” the author writes.

 

[riverroyal]

Geezus. I’m not sure what to say about that!

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Just found out today that my mother-in-law that works for Walmart as a department manager is being sent to the El Paso store this evening because all the employees are quiting after the attack because they don't feel safe.

Probably one of the safest Wallyworlds there is right now.

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[LargeOrangeFont]

Geezus. I’m not sure what to say about that!

I guess Trump is off the hook for this one.

 

[riverroyal]

I guess Trump is off the hook for this one.

This guys entire life was leading to this. Pretty tough to stop.
Maybe less A.M. radio and call of duty and more hookers (or at least one) would have helped.

 

[Danger Dave]

He's on to something here.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This guys entire life was leading to this. Pretty tough to stop.
Maybe less A.M. radio and call of duty and more hookers (or at least one) would have helped.

That is where the whole gun argument falls apart for me.

The mass shooter deal is by and large a culture problem there is no one cause. It is not the movies, video games, social media, MSM, guns, music, or the internet. It is all those ingredients mixed with some chemical cocktail (prescribed or otherwise) in someone's head that bakes for years. These people are not being properly equipped to deal with their emotions, nor are they being identified to be helped if they are in distress. Much of all that begins with parents. And you are exactly right, this is not going to stop and is extremely hard to identify.

Lets be real, many more people die week in and week out from a litany of other tragic and preventable reasons, especially in higher crime areas, and no one seems to care much.

The mass shooter problem, while honestly a very small amount of deaths in the grand scheme of things seems to consume everyone's thoughts, and that plays right into the mass shooters plan. So the cycle continues until the next kid snaps, and the process starts all over again. This problem took a generation to create, and it is going to take at least another generation or two to undo, but at this point, we are just making it worse, not better with all the attention, politics, and blame that is spread around.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

He's on to something here.

Solid.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

He's on to something here.

Spot on..

 

[mjc]

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/shooter-manifesto-elpaso.jpg
a link to the manifesto.

 

[Waffles]

So where's the surveillance vids?

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[Havasu blue label]

If it was a illegal alien that did the shooting what would we be talking about . It's a fuck up kid that's a coward unfortunately that's what are country has become

 

[YumaRivernaut]

So where's the surveillance vids?

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They're classified. They're always classified. National security ya know.

 

[monkeyswrench]

What’s inside the hate-filled manifesto linked to the alleged El Paso shooter
from: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...nifesto-linked-el-paso-shooter/?noredirect=on

Shortly before a gunman opened fire outside a Walmart in El Paso, killing 20 people and injuring dozens more, a manifesto believed to be linked to him was posted online. It railed against a “Hispanic invasion” and laid out a plan to divide the United States into territories based on race.

Authorities believe 21-year-old Patrick Crusius wrote the document, though they are still gathering evidence.

It begins by praising the manifesto of the gunman who killed 51 Muslims at two mosques in New Zealand earlier this year. That document cited a white supremacist theory known as “The Great Replacement,” which postulates that a secret group of elites is working to destroy the white race by replacing them with immigrants and refugees.

“This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas,” the manifesto says.

Local and Texas state officials spoke Aug. 4 about the shooting in El Paso the day before that left at least 20 people dead. (Reuters)
After a brief introduction, the 2,300-word manifesto is divided into five sections: political reasons for the attack, economic reasons, equipment that will be used to carry out the shooting, the expected reaction to the attack, and “personal reasons and thoughts.” Titled “The Inconvenient Truth,” the document is a jumble of positions and ideologies. In it, the writer warns of the dangers of environmental degradation, rails against corporate influence in the government and cautions against interracial marriage.

Under “political reasons,” the manifesto lambastes both Democrats and Republicans, suggesting the United States will soon become a one-party state run by Democrats because of the growing Hispanic population, the death of the baby-boom generation and the “anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right.” The author postulates that the growing Hispanic population in Texas will soon make it a solidly Democratic state, which he argues would all but assure repeated Democratic presidential victories.

“The Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate,” the manifesto says.

The document repeatedly rails against corporations, which the author says have taken over the government. The author criticizes Republicans for favoring corporations, but argues that “at least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced.”

Democratic presidential candidates blamed on Aug. 4 President Trump's "divisive rhetoric" for the back-to-back mass shootings. (The Washington Post)
The author also expresses fear over the impact automation will have on job opportunities and argues that immigrants should not be allowed to continue coming into the country as long as job opportunities are scarce. He argues that while immigrants often take menial jobs that Americans are unwilling to perform, their children seek better opportunities and often receive college degrees that allow them to obtain high-skill positions. The document again blames corporations for advocating for work visas for skilled workers and says they rely on immigrants to fill low-skilled positions.

In a jumbled rant, the document rails against corporations for destroying the environment by over-harvesting resources. The manifesto chastises the government for being unwilling to confront environmental issues and most Americans for being unwilling to change their lifestyles to be more environmentally friendly. It argues that the United States therefore needs fewer people consuming resources.

The author wrote that he planned to mainly rely on an AK-47 as his weapon for the shooting, noting that it overheats after about 100 rounds and that he would need a heat-resistant glove.

The manifesto notes that many migrants return to their home countries to reunite with family, arguing that “the Hispanic population is willing to return to their home countries if given the right incentive. An incentive that myself and many other patriotic Americans will provide.” The author writes that such terrorist attacks will “remove the threat of the Hispanic voting bloc.”

In the “personal reasons and thoughts” section, the author writes that he has spent his life preparing for a future that does not exist, though does not specify what that future would be. He ends on an anti-immigrant screed, worrying that Hispanics will take over the Texas government and says the Founding Fathers have given him the rights — presumably referring to the right to bear arms — to save the country from destruction.

“Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to repel the millions of invaders that plaque [sic] their country. They have no choice but to sit by and watch their countries burn,” the manifesto says.

Finally, the manifesto ends by decrying interracial couples and proposes separating the United States into territories based on race. The author points to white supremacist theories that “stronger and/or more appealing cultures overtake weaker and/or undesirable ones.”

The author expresses fear that he will be captured, rather than die during the shooting, because that would mean he would receive the death penalty and his family would despise him. And he stresses that he has maintained his white supremacist ideology for many years, predating President Trump and his 2016 campaign, which he says did not influence his reasons for carrying out the attack.

“This is just the beginning of the fight for America and Europe,” the author writes.

A couple of oddities...
An Ak that overheats after 100 rounds...needs a glove? Appeared the have standard wood furniture...
A white nationalist using the word "Comrades"...Bretheren, Brotherhood, Brothers, sure...
Was afraid to be caught rather than die?...would have been a quick out.

 

[BONER]

Anybody else find it a little coincidental that NOBODY in a Texas WalMart wasn't armed?

Cmon Man....

There's a bigger picture to this shit.

 

[Bobby V]

Anybody else find it a little coincidental that NOBODY in a Texas WalMart wasn't armed?

Cmon Man....

There's a bigger picture to this shit.

See post #91.

 

[Socalx09]

Anybody else find it a little coincidental that NOBODY in a Texas WalMart wasn't armed?

Cmon Man....

There's a bigger picture to this shit.

I believe hearing this mall and Walmart was a gun free zone.