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One accident was a family on a rental Pontoon. The 60 year old male jumped in after a child who had a vest on. The 60 year old male did not. The older male had health issues and a bad shoulder and drowned. I was told the water was kinda rough at the time. They recovered his body today. A friend of mine from work is related to the family.
 

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One accident was a family on a rental Pontoon. The 60 year old male jumped in after a child who had a vest on. The 60 year old male did not. The older male had health issues and a bad shoulder and drowned. I was told the water was kinda rough at the time. They recovered his body today. A friend of mine from work is related to the family.
Thanks for the update. Elsinore, Delta, Bullhead and 95 near Parker, rough sad weekend. RIP to all
 

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This was a bad weekend šŸ˜¢
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One accident was a family on a rental Pontoon. The 60 year old male jumped in after a child who had a vest on. The 60 year old male did not. The older male had health issues and a bad shoulder and drowned. I was told the water was kinda rough at the time. They recovered his body today. A friend of mine from work is related to the family.

Damn. Hard to read Most of us would do the same and not put our welfare before a child. My sympathies to the family. And my thanks and gratitude to the man for doing what he knew he had to do and what I hope still most of us would do.
Prayers to the families involved


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It's always sad to read these stories. Most of them have a common thread. Inexperience, lack of knowledge, and a fun outing turned deadly occur over and over.

I wish there was some way to properly educate those who rent boats, It's impossible to cover all of the things that a renter needs to know with a ten minute talk by a disinterested and underpaid dock hand.

Life changes in an instant. We are powerless to stop fate.
 

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It's always sad to read these stories. Most of them have a common thread. Inexperience, lack of knowledge, and a fun outing turned deadly occur over and over.

I wish there was some way to properly educate those who rent boats, It's impossible to cover all of the things that a renter needs to know with a ten minute talk by a disinterested and underpaid dock hand.

Life changes in an instant. We are powerless to stop fate.

So true. I tend to be the last one out when with Kida. I want to be sure that they are all on board before I do. Also so the person driving the boat never has to take any action to help anyone, I feel so lucky to have grown up surfing in Hawaii most of my life and a confident swimmer. However in the back of my mind I know that I am getting older and starting to see my limitations shrinking. Good thing is most of the kids we are with have grown up on the river.
 

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So sad to hear of all these incidents. Makes me really considering when jumping out from the boat to cool off is to put on a floatation vest. Itā€™s been a bad weekend for a lot boaters. Prayers to all the families who were affected by all these accidents.
 

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So sad to hear of all these incidents. Makes me really considering when jumping out from the boat to cool off is to put on a floatation vest.

Please, for the sake of those that love you, do this, and make everyone in your party wear a PFD while jumping overboard. Cold shock drowning can happen to anyone at any time. There is no way to predict its occurrence.

The tragedy of this condition is that the person affected involuntarily exhales, and quickly sinks below the surface. If this happens in the deep water of a lake or in a river with a rapid current, the victim disappears under the water.

Unless the person is found within two or three minutes, the likelihood of survival is almost zero.

Those of you that are the boat captain have the responsibility of keeping your family and guests safe. Don't let some ridiculous self pride or reluctance of being seen as a pussy keep you from doing your duty.

If your child drowns under these circumstances, your life will never be the same. Your relationship with your spouse will be irretrievably damaged, and your marriage will not survive the loss. You will be overwhelmed with guilt for the rest of your life.

These are harsh words. The reality is a million times more harsh.

Cold Water Shock is a cause of death that many people fail to appreciate. Adequate clothing and a lifejacket will potentially help you to survive long enough to be recovered.

When the body is suddenly immersed in cold water it experiences a number of physiological responses that can rapidly incapacitate and even kill. The sudden lowering of skin temperature is one of the most profound stimuli that the body can encounter.

The biggest danger is inhaling water and drowning, even if the water is flat, calm and you know how to swim. Cold Water Shock causes an immediate loss of breathing control. You take one or more huge gasps, followed by hyperventilation ā€“ very rapid breathing that is hard or impossible for you to control.

As blood vessels contract, increases in heart rate and blood pressure may result in cardiac arrest even in people who are in good health. At the same time a ā€œgaspā€ response may result in water being inhaled into the lungs and your breathing rate may increase by as much as tenfold.

The condition causes involuntary body reactions that can be as swift as they are deadly ā€“ and the ability to swim well has no impact on these responses. It is far deadlier than Hypothermia, yet far less understood by boaters in general.

Hypothermia kills over time as heat is conducted away from the body leading to a gradual decline in body core temperature and loss of swimming ability, unconsciousness and ultimately death. Conversely, most people who are susceptible to Cold Water Shock die in the first minute of immersion.

In the majority of cases, victims arenā€™t stupid or intentionally reckless, and many are strong swimmers. They simply have the misfortune of getting caught in an exceptionally lethal trap. Cold water preys on the unsuspecting and the careless, but it also waits patiently offshore for those with plenty of experience but who donā€™t take it seriously.


What happens?

Sudden cold water immersion drastically reduces your ability to hold your breath typically from a minute or so to less than 10 seconds, whilst cold water in your ears can cause vertigo and disorientation.

At a water temperature below 75Ā°F, and if you are not wearing a life jacket, especially an automatic one, cold water shock may:


  • cause you to inhale as you go under the water, due to an involuntary gasping reflex, and drown without coming back to the surface
  • drastically reduce your ability to hold your breath underwater, typically from a minute or so to less than 10 seconds
  • induce vertigo as your ears are exposed to cold water, resulting in failure to differentiate between up and down

 
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Please, for the sake of those that love you, do this, and make everyone in your party wear a PFD while jumping overboard. Cold shock drowning can happen to anyone at any time. There is no way to predict its occurrence.

The tragedy of this condition is that the person affected involuntarily exhales, and quickly sinks below the surface. If this happens in the deep water of a lake or in a river with a rapid current, the victim disappears under the water.

Unless the person is found within three or four minutes, the likelihood of survival is almost zero.

Those of you that are the boat captain have the responsibility of keeping your family and guests safe. Don't let some ridiculous self pride or reluctance of being seen as a pussy keep you from doing your duty.



Cold Water Shock is a cause of death that many people fail to appreciate. Adequate clothing and a lifejacket will potentially help you to survive long enough to be recovered.

When the body is suddenly immersed in cold water it experiences a number of physiological responses that can rapidly incapacitate and even kill. The sudden lowering of skin temperature is one of the most profound stimuli that the body can encounter.

The biggest danger is inhaling water and drowning, even if the water is flat, calm and you know how to swim. Cold Water Shock causes an immediate loss of breathing control. You take one or more huge gasps, followed by hyperventilation ā€“ very rapid breathing that is hard or impossible for you to control.

As blood vessels contract, increases in heart rate and blood pressure may result in cardiac arrest even in people who are in good health. At the same time a ā€œgaspā€ response may result in water being inhaled into the lungs and your breathing rate may increase by as much as tenfold.

The condition causes involuntary body reactions that can be as swift as they are deadly ā€“ and the ability to swim well has no impact on these responses. It is far deadlier than Hypothermia, yet far less understood by boaters in general.


Thanks rrrr. I just got off the phone with all my kids who own boats. No more jumping in water without floatation vest. šŸ‘
 

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Thanks rrrr. I just got off the phone with all my kids who own boats. No more jumping in water without floatation vest. šŸ‘

Thank you. I have been raising consciousness about cold shock drowning for over twenty years. I personally witnessed the drowning of two young men in two separate occurrences, and in both cases it happened so fast that some of the people in each party did not understand what was happening.

These occurred just ten or twelve days apart, at the lake we always boat at. The first one was a group of early twenty-somethings, gathered on a marina section being built and was therefore separated from the rest of the docks by fifteen or twenty feet of water. They had been dropped off by a boat.

I was on the adjacent dock, and screams for help came from the floating section. I grabbed a PFD from my boat and swam across the water, and they told me a friend had jumped in and disappeared. The water was about eight feet deep. I removed my PFD and dove in the water, swam down, and felt around for the kid. I did this three times and quit, because I knew further effort was endangering me and probably futile at that point. His body was found later that day.

The other one happened in open water, with several boats rafted up. Again, it was a young guy. He just disappeared under the water. There was nothing I could do. The sheriff's dive team found his body several hours later.

This is what made me start requiring everyone on my boat to wear a PFD when in the water, either fastened or worn as a diaper. Whenever I told the story of the dead young guys, there was no objection to wearing the PFD.
 

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Man thatā€™s tough what you had to go through. I really thought not much of it when it was so hot in havasu and just stop the boat for a quick cool down. You really have to learn off of Your own experiences or someone advising you who has gone through this. I really try to be a safe boater watching my surroundings and have the proper equipment when we ski, wake boarding or just towing the kids on a tube. Learning off a tragedy will save another life and I feel better that me and my kids will also share this info to others.
 

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Damn. Hard to read Most of us would do the same and not put our welfare before a child. My sympathies to the family. And my thanks and gratitude to the man for doing what he knew he had to do and what I hope still most of us would do.
Prayers to the families involved


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Kid had a vest on it said
 

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I was not aware of the gravity of the cold water immersion. Thank you Sir.

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RRRR, I appreciate the information. It certainly answers some questions I have pondered.

Cheers, Steve
 

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We were in Montana a couple weeks ago and boating on Whitefish lake. It was 92 out and the water is a bit on the cool side. I informed the entire party that since I am operating the boat if they want to jump in a vest is required and that I would not get in and leave anyone on the boat that did not know what they are doing while floating. They were all kinda taken back but agreed after a little enlightenment.

Safety first on my watch
 
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