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@Riverbound or @dezertrider or anyone else in the biz, my wife really wants it done on our new to us home. It was built in 2005, is this something we would really benefit from? I don't see the need for it. What's your opinion? Looks like the old home owner just did the filter but I don't know how regularly they were doing it prior to our purchase.
 

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Pop off a few grills and check inside for dust and debris. She may be overly cautious.

I use Alliance Environmental, as they bought AirTek who actually does the cleanings. We have to do them for mold remediation projects.

 

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Pop off a few grills and check inside for dust and debris. She may be overly cautious.

I use Alliance Environmental, as they bought AirTek who actually does the cleanings. We have to do them for mold remediation projects.

New pad is in Texas. But I'll take a look inside the grills.
 

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Yes, If you home is over 10 years old I would have them cleaned and sealed. Its not to expensive but it is a good idea to have them cleaned and while they clean them they should seal any air leaks and seal the registers.

What part of Texas.? In the more humid parts there is a big problem organic growth in the supply ducts. In some cases in the high humidity areas water could condense in the cold supply ducts causing bacteria growth.
 

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Yes, If you home is over 10 years old I would have them cleaned and sealed. Its not to expensive but it is a good idea to have them cleaned and while they clean them they should seal any air leaks and seal the registers.

What part of Texas.? In the more humid parts there is a big problem organic growth in the supply ducts. In some cases in the high humidity areas water could condense in the cold supply ducts causing bacteria growth.
I’d be curious to know what “not too expensive” is? Yes, I know it depends on the size of the house and complexity of the system. Just curious if there’s an average for a 1700 to 2000 square-foot home. You know, the little places for us poor folks?😊
 

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Yes, If you home is over 10 years old I would have them cleaned and sealed. Its not to expensive but it is a good idea to have them cleaned and while they clean them they should seal any air leaks and seal the registers.

What part of Texas.? In the more humid parts there is a big problem organic growth in the supply ducts. In some cases in the high humidity areas water could condense in the cold supply ducts causing bacteria growth.
I'm just outside of Ft Worth. I don't know what more humid is when it comes to Texas, but it's plenty humid where I'm at for sure. I appreciate the input and I'll reach out to an A/C guy to get it done while the place is still empty.
 

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@Riverbound or @dezertrider or anyone else in the biz, my wife really wants it done on our new to us home. It was built in 2005, is this something we would really benefit from? I don't see the need for it. What's your opinion? Looks like the old home owner just did the filter but I don't know how regularly they were doing it prior to our purchase.
short answer. No it’s not necessary.

unless you had a fire/water/mold issue in home or had a ton of construction done recently.

the supply side is pressurized so every time it turns on it blows any loose debris out.


if she’s concerned with air quality or allergens than adding an ionizer or UV air scrubber would be a better investment.

although we offer duct cleaning it’s mostly a service we use to get in the door to offer the correct solution. 😉
 

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Yes, If you home is over 10 years old I would have them cleaned and sealed. Its not to expensive but it is a good idea to have them cleaned and while they clean them they should seal any air leaks and seal the registers.

What part of Texas.? In the more humid parts there is a big problem organic growth in the supply ducts. In some cases in the high humidity areas water could condense in the cold supply ducts causing bacteria growth.
I've been repainting lately and have had to clean the registers and ceiling of fine dirt & dust. I've been considering having this done. You don't show Bullhead as one of your service areas. do you service the BHC area? Also looking to have the system checked out. It's been working good but is 22yrs old.

Thanks
 

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short answer. No it’s not necessary.

unless you had a fire/water/mold issue in home or had a ton of construction done recently.

the supply side is pressurized so every time it turns on it blows any loose debris out.


if she’s concerned with air quality or allergens than adding an ionizer or UV air scrubber would be a better investment.

although we offer duct cleaning it’s mostly a service we use to get in the door to offer the correct solution. 😉
Ding Ding!!

When I did residential we offered duct cleaning. The only time it would pull anything out of any significance is when the ducts where beneath the floor. In the attic in the Southwest, a moderately maintained system will have no need for duct cleaning.

Unless the cleaner heads have changed, they are a joke. Just some compressed air whips that bang around in a duct (if the wrong head is used it can easily tear through older ductwork and make things 1000x worse) with a HEPA filtered vacuum at the end catching what little it breaks lose.
 

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I see alot of small business a/c duct cleaning on Facebook. They are all scams FYI
The amount of Facebook scammers using Duct Cleaning is impressive. They are in every community group from californai to Arizona. At first I thought they were just trying to generate leads and sell them but they look to be scammers
 

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Side question, since ya'll seem to know what's up... I have a weird harmonic humming noise but it's only coming from one duct in one room. It's a louder when only the fresh air intake is running at partial speed, than when the AC is running. New single story home.

Drives me nuts as the master bedroom is the one effected... If I put my ear against the wall in the room I can hear it even more, but only in that room. In other rooms I can hear the AC running as well if I put my ear on the walls, but it's much quieter and just a soft mechanical sound, versus the very specific pitched hum in the master. I'm thinking the noise from the furnace blower motor is somehow being amplified by the acoustics in the ducting for some reason, but only on that specific run?

If nobody has ever heard of anything like this before, I guess I will have to go up and investigate... But it's blow-in foam everywhere, not looking forward to it.
 

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I've been repainting lately and have had to clean the registers and ceiling of fine dirt & dust. I've been considering having this done. You don't show Bullhead as one of your service areas. do you service the BHC area? Also looking to have the system checked out. It's been working good but is 22yrs old.

Thanks
We service Bullhead City and we can take care of you. We dont have a duct cleaner yet as we are just getting started. We should have one by the end of the year.

22 years old in this area is a long life for an air conditioner. I recomend a pre summer maintenance where we clean your condenser and inspect everything.
 

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Side question, since ya'll seem to know what's up... I have a weird harmonic humming noise but it's only coming from one duct in one room. It's a louder when only the fresh air intake is running at partial speed, than when the AC is running. New single story home.

Drives me nuts as the master bedroom is the one effected... If I put my ear against the wall in the room I can hear it even more, but only in that room. In other rooms I can hear the AC running as well if I put my ear on the walls, but it's much quieter and just a soft mechanical sound, versus the very specific pitched hum in the master. I'm thinking the noise from the furnace blower motor is somehow being amplified by the acoustics in the ducting for some reason, but only on that specific run?

If nobody has ever heard of anything like this before, I guess I will have to go up and investigate... But it's blow-in foam everywhere, not looking forward to it.
Try taking the register off and see if the noise goes away. It could be the grill has more air flow then its rated for causing turbulance noise.
 

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Ding Ding!!

When I did residential we offered duct cleaning. The only time it would pull anything out of any significance is when the ducts where beneath the floor. In the attic in the Southwest, a moderately maintained system will have no need for duct cleaning.

Unless the cleaner heads have changed, they are a joke. Just some compressed air whips that bang around in a duct (if the wrong head is used it can easily tear through older ductwork and make things 1000x worse) with a HEPA filtered vacuum at the end catching what little it breaks lose.

They are great for some situations. They have newer ones that wont detroy the duct if the ductr is newer. If the ducting is to old you dont want to clean them. Its best to replace as they will destroy the ducts
 

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So the opinions vary (like everything). I can say if you live in the desert I’d say it is absolutely worth while.. I had mine done a few years ago and was shocked at the amount of dirt that came out of them..
 

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The fine dirt dust that collects in fully closed homes is astounding in the desert.
Everytime I look at dust like that I make sure to hack up a big brown loogie to remind myself what it's doing to my lungs.
 

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The fine dirt dust that collects in fully closed homes is astounding in the desert.
Everytime I look at dust like that I make sure to hack up a big brown loogie to remind myself what it's doing to my lungs.
Only a matter of time before valley fever rears its ugly head.
 

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One of the HVAC companies I worked for bought a duct cleaning setup. After running it a few times and seeing the result. They sold it as we felt bad for charging money for something that didn’t do jack shit.

You are better off just replacing the duct yourself. Duct tape, zip ties and connect the dots should be in your wheelhouse.
 

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One of the HVAC companies I worked for bought a duct cleaning setup. After running it a few times and seeing the result. They sold it as we felt bad for charging money for something that didn’t do jack shit.

You are better off just replacing the duct yourself. Duct tape, zip ties and connect the dots should be in your wheelhouse.
88% of ducting is not sized properly so make sure you size it according to your heat load and room sizes. Its much more then connecting the dots :)

88% of contractors that replace duct also do not know how to size it properly so choose the right contractor
 

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88% of ducting is not sized properly so make sure you size it according to your heat load and room sizes. Its much more then connecting the dots :)

88% of contractors that replace duct also do not know how to size it properly so choose the right contractor
May not be sized efficiently but if it has been in place for 20yrs and works then copy what you have.

Pretty stupid for a homeowner to pay 4-5k for a re duct they can do themselves for 2500.

Yes you may be able to resize everything and save them $10 in efficiency a year. But that juice ain’t worth the squeeze.

I would say 99% of HVAC guys never sized shit. But I would also say 99% never had an issue either.

I was 19 sizing jobs on the fly with that damn little wheel thing. After a few months of doing that shit you can look at a room
And guess and be close.
 

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Just have it performed. If no other reason other than your wife wants it done. Happy wife, happy life. If you don’t have it done and she even thinks she got sick because you didn’t, look out. You have been warned. I went thru this exact scenario with my wife when we bought our home in the Keys. BTW, been married for 42 years so I’ve learned a few things. ;)
 

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You sound like the ca enviro asshats talking about Guadalupe's air and blowing sand🤣
The Nipomo Mesa has the worst air quality on the central coast! Nevermind the GIANT sand lot that is naturally occurring and moving up wind of the mesa. Its the off roaders that tear it all up that is the problem!

How was my SLO Liberal impression? I think it was pretty spot on.
 

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When the furnace is sitting on a built in unlined plenum box in the garage, and the water heater is next to it....and the water heater leaked....and the plenum is now full of mold growth....you're gonna want to clean the ducting.

I think a normal house was around $900 up to $2200 for a larger home. This is San Diego pricing, I have no clue what Texas is. Coit the carpet cleaning company does it. Do they have a Coit there?
 

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The amount of Facebook scammers using Duct Cleaning is impressive. They are in every community group from californai to Arizona. At first I thought they were just trying to generate leads and sell them but they look to be scammers
Yes you pay after service is completed only if your satisfied. But their tech runs out of gas on the way to your house and needs $80 in gas money.

I love fucking with them
 

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We service Bullhead City and we can take care of you. We dont have a duct cleaner yet as we are just getting started. We should have one by the end of the year.

22 years old in this area is a long life for an air conditioner. I recomend a pre summer maintenance where we clean your condenser and inspect everything.
I've made a habit of cleaning the condenser couple years and flushing the fins out yearly.
I'll call tomorrow and schedule an inspection and see what maintenance recommendations you think are needed.

Thanks
Bill
 

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My home has double the amount of ducting most have. Not only do I have HVAC, I also have evaporative cooling.

It’s almost impossible to clean your duct work to the point of “new”. I suggest if your wife has an issue, replace the entire network every 5-8 years, if it’s easily accessible.


I think HD installs, but the key to a good environment is flow balancing the rooms, so the room is not just cool, but also feels good on the body. 😉

It’s on my list of remodeling tasks before I retire.
 

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My home has double the amount of ducting most have. Not only do I have HVAC, I also have evaporative cooling.

It’s almost impossible to clean your duct work to the point of “new”. I suggest if your wife has an issue, replace the entire network every 5-8 years, if it’s easily accessible.


I think HD installs, but the key to a good environment is flow balancing the rooms, so the room is not just cool, but also feels good on the body. 😉
She's ok with the answers I've gotten so far. I think she just saw too many IG ads or something. I will say that replacing the ducting on this house would be a far easier proposition that it would be on my Ca home. Way more room to get around in the attic.
 

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Just have it performed. If no other reason other than your wife wants it done. Happy wife, happy life. If you don’t have it done and she even thinks she got sick because you didn’t, look out. You have been warned. I went thru this exact scenario with my wife when we bought our home in the Keys. BTW, been married for 42 years so I’ve learned a few things. ;)
^^^THIS^^^
 

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I didn’t read all the comments….. but I did clean my dryer vents recently…. AMAZING BUILD UP…. Dryer works much more than before.

Depending on your set up. Buy the longest cleaning brush, set up a leaf blower inside and blow that stuff out.

If you are near Mission Viejo, you can borrow mine with more advice.
 

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Had our ducts cleaned, about $800.00 Melbourne Florida. Had some remodeling done inside. House got very dusty fast. After duct cleaning huge difference.
We get the dryer vent cleaned about every 2-3 years.
 

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I'm just outside of Ft Worth. I don't know what more humid is when it comes to Texas, but it's plenty humid where I'm at for sure. I appreciate the input and I'll reach out to an A/C guy to get it done while the place is still empty.
I’m in North Dallas. Considering the weather and high winds we get to enjoy, we had our 2006 house ducts cleaned just to start at zero. Probably won’t have them done again for 5-10 years unless something indicates an issue.
 

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I've made a habit of cleaning the condenser couple years and flushing the fins out yearly.
I'll call tomorrow and schedule an inspection and see what maintenance recommendations you think are needed.

Thanks
Bill
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