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I just watched some pro R you tube video from new zealand?!! Its pretty nice. The front suspension arms are legit
 

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Well, since it actually exists...šŸ™„

If you donā€™t own it.. it doesnā€™t exist. That is the rationale from this thread.

Polaris Pro R, Turbo R, and Speed UTV do not exist since they arenā€™t available for sale.
 

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On paper the Speed car was far enough ahead itā€™s gonna be fine in the current market.

The big news for Polaris is really the updated long travel suspension and the 4 cylinder power plant. The car Itself is the same as the Pro XP that has been out a couple years.

And the Can Am is mostly unchanged for 2022

@702sandman do you have any idea where the 2.0 car may fit into current race rules?
BITD has raised the CC limit of the unlimited class so thatā€™s where it will fit. Score also raised there CC limit in unlimited to make space for this car. So for us the most competition is still in pro turbo so it has to be under the 1000 CC limit.
 

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Man, there are some serious haters on here, but money ahead? Tying up your deposit for years is definitely not money ahead, especially if your ā€œgainsā€ are unrealized. Not sure how liquid a slot is either.

I hope you guys get your cars soon and they kick some ass.
 

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Man, there are some serious haters on here, but money ahead? Tying up your deposit for years is definitely not money ahead, especially if your ā€œgainsā€ are unrealized. Not sure how liquid a slot is either.

I hope you guys get your cars soon and they kick some ass.
A 2-3x return on early deposit seems very real and you can get that in a couple days.

If you just wanted out, probably a few hours and you can have your money back.

Yes the cars arenā€™t ready yet ( neither is the Polaris at this point) But the $1500 deposit is going to save $10-$15k over buying an equivalent Polaris in todayā€™s market conditions. I donā€™t care what you want to call it, a savings, money ahead, whatever. Itā€™s a hell of a lot cheaper. You are right, the money has been tied up, but the return of the locked in price is worth it, to me at least.

Iā€™m not too worried about the product being bad at this point, but there are risks. Iā€™m ok with them, as is everyone else that is waiting on the cars.
 

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Yes the cars arenā€™t ready yet ( neither is the Polaris at this point)

Both companies have shown pre-production builds of their new cars.

One company has been manufacturing and selling cars since they basically invented them in 1999, 22 years ago. In 2017 Polaris' annual sales exceed $5 billion for the first time; and the company celebrated building its one-millionth RANGER. P

 

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Both companies have shown pre-production builds of their new cars.

One company has been manufacturing and selling cars since they basically invented them in 1999, 22 years ago. In 2017 Polaris' annual sales exceed $5 billion for the first time; and the company celebrated building its one-millionth RANGER. P


You said if cars arenā€™t in customerā€™s hands they donā€™t exist. You didnā€™t qualify it with company history.

By your definition neither company has new cars that exist. Or are you going to try to tell us ā€œexistenceā€ means different things to different companies at different times?

Or do you want to now revise your inaccurate definition given that Polaris and Speed have had cars in ā€œexistenceā€ for well over a year.
 

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After being entertained by the well written Havasu to Primm and back UTV ride, I'm led to inquire --- After all these many years of Polaris producing UTVs --- why the hell haven't they figured out how to utilize a fuel pump that doesn't blow O-Rings and leave us stranded ????????????

We've got countless automobiles running with In-Tank fuel pumps, certainly the roads are not lined with inoperative vehicles suffering failed fuel pumps. I don't read of others with Can-Ams or other brand owners carrying new fuel pumps or O-Rings in fear of expected failure.

After two fuel pump failures, both covered under warranty left us stranded, we won't own a Polaris. Only later did I learn from LOF that we had to purchase special O-Rings that Polaris doesn't offer and some special tool and carry them with us.

In the Primm story, sure as shit, there' LOF repairing his fuel pump :oops: Did Polaris ever figure this out ?????????
 

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After being entertained by the well written Havasu to Primm and back UTV ride, I'm led to inquire --- After all these many years of Polaris producing UTVs --- why the hell haven't they figured out how to utilize a fuel pump that doesn't blow O-Rings and leave us stranded ????????????

We've got countless automobiles running with In-Tank fuel pumps, certainly the roads are not lined with inoperative vehicles suffering failed fuel pumps. I don't read of others with Can-Ams or other brand owners carrying new fuel pumps or O-Rings in fear of expected failure.

After two fuel pump failures, both covered under warranty left us stranded, we won't own a Polaris. Only later did I learn from LOF that we had to purchase special O-Rings that Polaris doesn't offer and some special tool and carry them with us.

In the Primm story, sure as shit, there' LOF repairing his fuel pump :oops: Did Polaris ever figure this out ?????????

To be fair, the 2 orings I went through on the trip were not Polarisā€™s fault. I bought aftermarket orings awhile ago to fix this known issue with the Polaris oring, and had them in my car. Unfortunately the ones I bought were not fuel rated and only lasted about 150 miles each.

I was able to fix the problem in less than 15 mins. Luckily Ian had bought the Quantum Orings I recommended which ARE fuel rated so he gave me one of those after the 2nd oring failure on day 3. I should be good to go from here on out. I used that Quantum oring on a friends car in Jan, and he has had smooth sailing since then.

To your question, I believe this has been resolved in later Polaris cars, because I donā€™t hear of it happening nearly as much, if at all.
 

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Gotta say LOF you sure as hell prepare your SxS for 150 mi + rides. No doubt you will get home under your own power.
When you have time consider a serious thread preparing for long rides.
 

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To be fair, the 2 orings I went through on the trip were not Polarisā€™s fault. I bought aftermarket orings awhile ago to fix this known issue with the Polaris oring, and had them in my car. Unfortunately the ones I bought were not fuel rated and only lasted about 150 miles each.

I was able to fix the problem in less than 15 mins. Luckily Ian had bought the Quantum Orings I recommended which ARE fuel rated so he gave me one of those after the 2nd oring failure on day 3. I should be good to go from here on out. I used that Quantum oring on a friends car in Jan, and he has had smooth sailing since then.

To your question, I believe this has been resolved in later Polaris cars, because I donā€™t hear of it happening nearly as much, if at all.

I hadn't realized how wide spread this Polaris fuel pump issue was until after my first failure and I was shooting the shit with an old timer neighbor.
I was surprised when he not only was aware of the issue but recounted several stories from his buddies who are mid-western farmers who'd suffered Polaris fuel pump failures. Our previous 700 Ranger had hauled our asses without so much as a hic-up for many years on the ranch for both work and play and we were highly confident we've always make it home. Obviously, the good luck didn't stay with us when we moved on to the 900S EPS Rzr. In 2018 when we decided we'd had enough and went back shopping we were told by AZ West, that certain models still shared that same fuel pump, the General being one of them. I think the 1000s, and especially the Turbos used a different design by 18' --- I think.

If I recall yours is a 2016, so hopefully they've now got that defect sorted out.
 

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Thought this was funny as hell.
 

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Now you're going all Democrat on me.šŸ˜

You're in a indefensible position and so you just change the stance.

And yes, my portfolio being that it has a recognized actual value could be used to borrow if i so chose.
You can borrow against stocks you own? Sign me up?

I have done better and am currently sitting better on speed cars than any crypto I personally have invested in. šŸ¤Ŗ
 

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I will put up I get my first speed before February..

First 1,000 bet?

I will put up that when I get it I will sell it for at least 3,000 over..

Second 1,000 dollar bet?

I will have my second car by March.

Third 1,000 dollar bet?


Any of the negative Nancyā€™s first come first serve..

Did the rest of the negatives.. have notsā€¦ never dined snd never will beā€™s.

Put up or shut up. And if you talkā€¦ have some skin in the game. You are more invested then me At this point!


Anyone says Iā€™m not money ahead better start counting stacks..
 

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I will put up I get my first speed before February..

First 1,000 bet?

I will put up that when I get it I will sell it for at least 3,000 over..

Second 1,000 dollar bet?

I will have my second car by March.

Third 1,000 dollar bet?


Any of the negative Nancyā€™s first come first serve..

Did the rest of the negatives.. have notsā€¦ never dined snd never will beā€™s.

Put up or shut up. And if you talkā€¦ have some skin in the game. You are more invested then me At this point!


Anyone says Iā€™m not money ahead better start counting stacks..

Aren't you the guy that built a bad ass cam am and barely used it. Sold it when you purchased your speed slot in anticipation of the used market tanking when the speeds came out. When they finally didn't come out you had to buy a used razr to get you by until you got your speed car. And that's been 1-2 years ago now. Sounds like you are more "invested" than you are saying you are.
 

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Aren't you the guy that built a bad ass cam am and barely used it. Sold it when you purchased your speed slot in anticipation of the used market tanking when the speeds came out. When they finally didn't come out you had to buy a used razr to get you by until you got your speed car. And that's been 1-2 years ago now. Sounds like you are more "invested" than you are saying you are.

LOL. Sounds like you donā€™t quite know what you are speaking of.... like the cars are ā€œ2 years lateā€ when they arenā€™t even a year late yet.

Yea some people that sold their rides early bought bridge cars so they wouldnā€™t lose time in the dirt, who cares?

He sold an expensive car while it still had quite a bit of value and bought a cheaper one that wonā€™t lose any real value.
 
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I will put up I get my first speed before February..

First 1,000 bet?

I will put up that when I get it I will sell it for at least 3,000 over..

Second 1,000 dollar bet?

I will have my second car by March.

Third 1,000 dollar bet?


Any of the negative Nancyā€™s first come first serve..

Did the rest of the negatives.. have notsā€¦ never dined snd never will beā€™s.

Put up or shut up. And if you talkā€¦ have some skin in the game. You are more invested then me At this point!


Anyone says Iā€™m not money ahead better start counting stacks..

If they start assembly around the first of the year like that say they want to.. Feb is tight but possible.

If that is the case we will see these things right around when we see the Pro R, or just on its heels, and well before the Turbo R.
 

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You can borrow against stocks you own? Sign me up?

I have done better and am currently sitting better on speed cars than any crypto I personally have invested in. šŸ¤Ŗ

The fact that the SPEED cars have done better for you than crypto isn't really a stunner or a ringing endorsement. šŸ™„

Also, unless either has actually paid a dividend to you, you're not CURRENTLY money ahead.šŸ‘
 
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I will put up I get my first speed before February..

First 1,000 bet?

I will put up that when I get it I will sell it for at least 3,000 over..

Second 1,000 dollar bet?

I will have my second car by March.

Third 1,000 dollar bet?


Any of the negative Nancyā€™s first come first serve..

Did the rest of the negatives.. have notsā€¦ never dined snd never will beā€™s.

Put up or shut up. And if you talkā€¦ have some skin in the game. You are more invested then me At this point!


Anyone says Iā€™m not money ahead better start counting stacks..

If I'm included in your "Hater" list here I think you are mixing my message.
All I've tried to point out was how LOF's and then your comments about being money ahead were incorrect.

Enjoy your mad stacks and eventually your Speed car.šŸ‘
 

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Out of curiosity, what's the dealer network look like for Speed cars if they need warranty work? I'm not throwing stones here, I am curious and have only followed passively. I work in product development and marketing for a global manufacturing company. It's difficult for a plant with a seasoned workforce to record positive first pass yield results. I can't imagine that a new company with limited manufacturing experience is going to execute perfection. Preston Tucker comes to mind when I think about what Robby is trying to accomplish. It is amazingly bold and risky. The minimum viable product mindset comes to mind, I don't understand why he would not get a product to market quickly using some vendors and slowly onboard things like engines, shocks, tires? Cash flow has got to be a concern at some point? The products engineers' delay in the name of perfection rarely do as well as the ones quick to market and improve based on feedback.

Robby could have likely taken a car half this advanced to market and still killed it. Plus people would have sold and purchased the newer cooler stuff. I'm not hating, just don't understand the business model I guess?
 

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The fact that the SPEED cars have done better for you than crypto isn't really a stunner or a ringing endorsement. šŸ™„

Also, unless either has actually paid a dividend to you, you're not CURRENTLY money ahead.šŸ‘
Lets not use Daves crypto or Dinar experiences a gauge for the rest of us! LOL.....I started with 5k of Crypto two years ago. My wallets show around 50-60k on any given day now. I havent done shit except HODL. Dave likes to jump in on FOMO moments when someone tells him its hot then panic sells as they tank. :p Correct me if Im wrong Dave?, lol
 

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Out of curiosity, what's the dealer network look like for Speed cars if they need warranty work? I'm not throwing stones here, I am curious and have only followed passively. I work in product development and marketing for a global manufacturing company. It's difficult for a plant with a seasoned workforce to record positive first pass yield results. I can't imagine that a new company with limited manufacturing experience is going to execute perfection. Preston Tucker comes to mind when I think about what Robby is trying to accomplish. It is amazingly bold and risky. The minimum viable product mindset comes to mind, I don't understand why he would not get a product to market quickly using some vendors and slowly onboard things like engines, shocks, tires? Cash flow has got to be a concern at some point? The products engineers' delay in the name of perfection rarely do as well as the ones quick to market and improve based on feedback.

Robby could have likely taken a car half this advanced to market and still killed it. Plus people would have sold and purchased the newer cooler stuff. I'm not hating, just don't understand the business model I guess?

I donā€™t care what Speed says right now, it is not a nationwide brand. If you are in CA NV, AZ, UT you are very likely covered by their dealer network. They have partnered with every major powersports dealer in the southwest, and that has driven the majority of their orders. If you are in the Southwest, youā€™ll probably be fine in 6 months once things get rolling and these are on showroom floors.

They are not trying for perfection. They are trying for reliable. These cars are going to have quirks, but the majority of the focus is on the drivetrain. They canā€™t afford a costly warranty problem that will impact the bottom line and hurt the brand.

They are just over 2 years now in development for a 100% new clean sheet of paper car. That is pretty quick in my opinion, considering they are 98% done. It took Polaris longer to develop their new cars and they had many of the components, drivetrain, and electronics to start with.

Iā€™ll be honest, the car is not that advanced. It does not have any electronic wizardry. It has good geometry, and parts that are designed as scaled down racing components, instead of scaled up ATV components, and therein lies the difference. This car simply comes with many of the upgrades most people would already do, and allows for a degree of customization that you donā€™t get wirh any other brand.

Speed designed the car, they are not manufacturing the car. Another UTV manufacturing company is. While there are manufacturing hurdles, having that manufacturing parter helps them overcome those challenges, and of course brings some new ones with assembly and QC.

These wonā€™t be perfect, but Iā€™m confident itā€™s not going to burst into flames or suffer a major failure either. Iā€™d be more worried if they rushed to production with any of the known flaws they found to date.

The business model is simple. Build a SXS for the performance oriented enthusiast so he does not have to go spend $20k on a build after the price of the car. Put all the good parts on the car from the factory. People will pay $5k-$10k more for a car if they can build it with what they want from the factory, and not have to spend another $20k after purchase.
 

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I donā€™t care what Speed says right now, it is not a nationwide brand. If you are in CA NV, AZ, UT you are very likely covered by their dealer network. They have partnered with every major powersports dealer in the southwest, and that has driven the majority of their orders. If you are in the Southwest, youā€™ll probably be fine in 6 months once things get rolling and these are on showroom floors.

They are not trying for perfection. They are trying for reliable. These cars are going to have quirks, but the majority of the focus is on the drivetrain. They canā€™t afford a costly warranty problem that will impact the bottom line and hurt the brand.

They are just over 2 years now in development for a 100% new clean sheet of paper car. That is pretty quick in my opinion, considering they are 98% done. It took Polaris longer to develop their new cars and they had many of the components, drivetrain, and electronics to start with.

Iā€™ll be honest, the car is not that advanced. It does not have any electronic wizardry. It has good geometry, and parts that are designed as scaled down racing components, instead of scaled up ATV components, and therein lies the difference. This car simply comes with many of the upgrades most people would already do, and allows for a degree of customization that you donā€™t get wirh any other brand.

Speed designed the car, they are not manufacturing the car. Another UTV manufacturing company is. While there are manufacturing hurdles, having that manufacturing parter helps them overcome those challenges, and of course brings some new ones with assembly and QC.

These wonā€™t be perfect, but Iā€™m confident itā€™s not going to burst into flames or suffer a major failure either. Iā€™d be more worried if they rushed to production with any of the known flaws they found to date.
I agree, personally I saw that thread yesterday on the new Razr 2021 someone posted from Craigslist brand new for 21k. For a minute I was like....hmmmmmm.. Then I was like WTF am I thinking, Ill throw another 10 k EASILY in shit on it to make it "mine".

With a Speed car, I dont see myself doing much really. Its already "done".

Im tired of the upgrades on those things, it never ended for me!
 

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I agree, personally I saw that thread yesterday on the new Razr 2021 someone posted from Craigslist brand new for 21k. For a minute I was like....hmmmmmm.. Then I was like WTF am I thinking, Ill throw another 10 k EASILY in shit on it to make it "mine".

With a Speed car, I dont see myself doing much really. Its already "done".

Im tired of the upgrades on those things, it never ended for me!

You nailed it. That is the Speed business model. Take some (or all) of your money that you would have spent on other crap and spend it with Speed.

To be fair I think the new Polaris cars are hot on Speeds heels. They donā€™t look like they will need much.
 

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LOL. Sounds like you donā€™t quite know what you are speaking of.... like the cars are ā€œ2 years lateā€ when they arenā€™t even a year late yet.

Yea some people that sold their rides early bought bridge cars so they wouldnā€™t lose time in the dirt, who cares?

He sold an expensive car while it still had quite a bit of value and bought a cheaper one that wonā€™t lose any real value.
Taking deposits: 9/2019
Release date: 10/2020

Not sure how you can say they aren't even a year late when they were suppose to be out before Halloween last year. And people have had there deposits down for over 2 years if you have an early spot. So the car is over a year late and people have there money down for over 2 years. So that's where my 1-2 years comes in and they still haven't gotten the cars yet. So that could turn into 2-3 years before this is over.

 

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I donā€™t care what Speed says right now, it is not a nationwide brand. If you are in CA NV, AZ, UT you are very likely covered by their dealer network. They have partnered with every major powersports dealer in the southwest, and that has driven the majority of their orders. If you are in the Southwest, youā€™ll probably be fine in 6 months once things get rolling and these are on showroom floors.

They are not trying for perfection. They are trying for reliable. These cars are going to have quirks, but the majority of the focus is on the drivetrain. They canā€™t afford a costly warranty problem that will impact the bottom line and hurt the brand.

They are just over 2 years now in development for a 100% new clean sheet of paper car. That is pretty quick in my opinion, considering they are 98% done. It took Polaris longer to develop their new cars and they had many of the components, drivetrain, and electronics to start with.

Iā€™ll be honest, the car is not that advanced. It does not have any electronic wizardry. It has good geometry, and parts that are designed as scaled down racing components, instead of scaled up ATV components, and therein lies the difference. This car simply comes with many of the upgrades most people would already do, and allows for a degree of customization that you donā€™t get wirh any other brand.

Speed designed the car, they are not manufacturing the car. Another UTV manufacturing company is. While there are manufacturing hurdles, having that manufacturing parter helps them overcome those challenges, and of course brings some new ones with assembly and QC.

These wonā€™t be perfect, but Iā€™m confident itā€™s not going to burst into flames or suffer a major failure either. Iā€™d be more worried if they rushed to production with any of the known flaws they found to date.

The business model is simple. Build a SXS for the performance oriented enthusiast so he does not have to go spend $20k on a build after the price of the car. Put all the good parts on the car from the factory. People will pay $5k-$10k more for a car if they can build it with what they want from the factory, and not have to spend another $20k after purchase.
Thanks for the cliff notes.

Two years is fast, I agree. Your answer also clears up my question of how they built a factory and assembly line fast enough. The regional sales model also makes sense. He better move quick, the OEMs will knock his ideas off in a heartbeat. Large OEMs are famous for letting someone else make the investment in performance gains.
 

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Thanks for the cliff notes.

Two years is fast, I agree. Your answer also clears up my question of how they built a factory and assembly line fast enough. The regional sales model also makes sense. He better move quick, the OEMs will knock his ideas off in a heartbeat. Large OEMs are famous for letting someone else make the investment in performance gains.
Polaris has already responded with their new car, which is also not going to be available for a few more months. Can Am will probably respond next model year with something. To your point, going forward I think ALL the cars will be better built from the factory.

At the moment Speed still is promising a unique customized buying experience that I don't think Can Am or Polaris are interested in - custom wraps, accessories installed at the factory, etc.



Taking deposits: 9/2019
Release date: 10/2020

Not sure how you can say they aren't even a year late when they were suppose to be out before Halloween last year. And people have had there deposits down for over 2 years if you have an early spot. So the car is over a year late and people have there money down for over 2 years. So that's where my 1-2 years comes in and they still haven't gotten the cars yet. So that could turn into 2-3 years before this is over.


I can say that because I have the paperwork for both my cars and it said expect delivery in March 2021.

I have said for 2 years that anyone that thought delivery was actually going to be in 12/2020 was high. RG said on debut in 9/2019 that they were targeting late November/early December 2020 for release. So he is just now coming up on being 1 year late of the "hyped" release date.
 

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A lot more spots opened up this week. Cars in the 100ā€™s first batch cars can be changed to different cars if someone wants. I thought they locked early cars from changes already.


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Aren't you the guy that built a bad ass cam am and barely used it. Sold it when you purchased your speed slot in anticipation of the used market tanking when the speeds came out. When they finally didn't come out you had to buy a used razr to get you by until you got your speed car. And that's been 1-2 years ago now. Sounds like you are more "invested" than you are saying you are.

I barely used my can am? I donā€™t remember for sure but I think it had 1800 miles on it when I sold it. Ran to the Alamo, huslapies, desert bash, roveys needle, cabins a bunch of times, all over Parker etc?

But I did sell it because I was concerned the value was gonna drop when the speed cars got near.. who woulda thought covid was coming and inflated all the prices. My biggest mistake was I coulda bought it back and I hesitated.. I should have just bought it back.

I ended up buying one RZR, didnā€™t like it so I sold that to a co worker, and bought another one. I think we are getting close so it isnā€™t worth selling this one and getting another built can am or something..

Like I said last night though.. I have traded a few speed slots and made a couple of bucks. I currently have 3 slots, 2 four seaters and a two seater.
 

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@RiverDave in your possession before February? What port they coming in on? If itā€™s California might be an easy 1000
 

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@RiverDave in your possession before February? What port they coming in on? If itā€™s California might be an easy 1000

Completed cars are coming from Texas.

Dave is getting aggressive with Feb. I was on board with Feb about 3-4 weeks ago. Still possible if they finish up development in the next 6 weeks, but a longshot.
 

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I will put up I get my first speed before February..

First 1,000 bet?

I will put up that when I get it I will sell it for at least 3,000 over..

Second 1,000 dollar bet?

I will have my second car by March.

Third 1,000 dollar bet?


Any of the negative Nancyā€™s first come first serve..

Did the rest of the negatives.. have notsā€¦ never dined snd never will beā€™s.

Put up or shut up. And if you talkā€¦ have some skin in the game. You are more invested then me At this point!


Anyone says Iā€™m not money ahead better start counting stacks..

I'll take that before February action. Not hating, I have a speed car on order but I cant resist the odds at this point.
No takey backsies.
 

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Iā€™m with @Deckin Around how do I get in on bet 1.

What is his lowest car number too? Tooling, manufacturer, loading/shipping, assmebl
In texas and delivered to Arizona. Seems like a easy 1000 for me.
 
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This thread is eclipsing the OJšŸ”Ŗ BroncošŸ“ Chase for level of suspense.šŸ¤˜
 

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Im still going with Thanksgiving 22. Not for the cars 1-100, for anything after that. Cars 1-100 will be July in driveways. After 100 the recalls will start.

It can happen -OJ Simpson
 

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Im still going with Thanksgiving 22. Not for the cars 1-100, for anything after that. Cars 1-100 will be July in driveways. After 100 the recalls will start.

It can happen -OJ Simpson
I still don't know why you think an assembly line is gonna make 2-3 days worth of cars at a time then stop for 3 months. :)
 

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To be fair, the 2 orings I went through on the trip were not Polarisā€™s fault. I bought aftermarket orings awhile ago to fix this known issue with the Polaris oring, and had them in my car. Unfortunately the ones I bought were not fuel rated and only lasted about 150 miles each.

I was able to fix the problem in less than 15 mins. Luckily Ian had bought the Quantum Orings I recommended which ARE fuel rated so he gave me one of those after the 2nd oring failure on day 3. I should be good to go from here on out. I used that Quantum oring on a friends car in Jan, and he has had smooth sailing since then.

To your question, I believe this has been resolved in later Polaris cars, because I donā€™t hear of it happening nearly as much, if at all.

For fuel ALWAYS use a fluoroelastomer like Viton. Just for future reference.

McMaster-Carr is a great source of o-rings, they carry viton in all sizes.
 
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