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While he's taking calls, it sure looks like there is a completed car in the background, graphics and all. The same car can also be seen when he's showing the spare tire mount.

There one is a complete pre production car earlier in the show.

We did see the optional windshield last night too, it looks great. I am happy with the look personally.

Clutches look awesome, hopefully they perform as good as they look.
 
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Its just a rendering, see the last page of the attached PDF. The car with the windshield mounted is the pre-production car that's in their Anaheim shop.
 

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Just some more info-

I picked up a 2nd 4 seat car that is a low number in the first production group. I was able to do a COMPLETE reconfiguration on this car to my specs. The moral of the story is that if you want to buy a spot you do still have the ability to customize the car how you want it. If you want to buy someone’s spot do it before the Sand Show. As I indicated earlier and confirmed this week, Speed’s goal is to have production cars at the Sand Show in OC and their plan is to announce the beginning of production. If there are no major delays, that means deliveries would commence in December of this year.

The “new” car will look like this, it will be for sale when I take delivery of my original car that is in the 2nd production group.

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Just some more info-

I picked up a 2nd 4 seat car that is a low number in the first production group. I was able to do a COMPLETE reconfiguration on this car to my specs. The moral of the story is that if you want to buy a spot you do still have the ability to customize the car how you want it. If you want to buy someone’s spot do it before the Sand Show. As I indicated earlier and confirmed this week, Speed’s goal is to have production cars at the Sand Show in OC and their plan is to announce the beginning of production. If there are no major delays, that means deliveries would commence in December of this year.

The “new” car will look like this, it will be for sale when I take delivery of my original car that is in the 2nd production group.

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You mean 2022 right😂
 

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Just some more info-

I picked up a 2nd 4 seat car that is a low number in the first production group. I was able to do a COMPLETE reconfiguration on this car to my specs. The moral of the story is that if you want to buy a spot you do still have the ability to customize the car how you want it. If you want to buy someone’s spot do it before the Sand Show. As I indicated earlier and confirmed this week, Speed’s goal is to have production cars at the Sand Show in OC and their plan is to announce the beginning of production. If there are no major delays, that means deliveries would commence in December of this year.

The “new” car will look like this, it will be for sale when I take delivery of my original car that is in the 2nd production group.

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I’d be very surprised it anyone got a car in December. 2 or 4 seat.
 

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I’d be very surprised it anyone got a car in December. 2 or 4 seat.

No one is getting 2 seat car until probably Q1 2022 at the earliest. They are making 800 4 seaters first.

I’ve already got 1 wager that 4 seat cars will be delivered to customers before years end if others want to pile on.

As I’ve stated multiple times, I don’t care when they actually arrive at this point if the product is better.
 
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I guess Labor Day weekend will be a good time to take you for a ride in a can am!

lol

i sure hope to see the new car at SSSS, Costa Mesa!


Just some more info-

I picked up a 2nd 4 seat car that is a low number in the first production group. I was able to do a COMPLETE reconfiguration on this car to my specs. The moral of the story is that if you want to buy a spot you do still have the ability to customize the car how you want it. If you want to buy someone’s spot do it before the Sand Show. As I indicated earlier and confirmed this week, Speed’s goal is to have production cars at the Sand Show in OC and their plan is to announce the beginning of production. If there are no major delays, that means deliveries would commence in December of this year.

The “new” car will look like this, it will be for sale when I take delivery of my original car that is in the 2nd production group.

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No one is getting 2 seat car until probably Q1 2022 at the earliest. They are making 800 4 seaters first.

I’ve already got 1 wager that 4 seat cars will be delivered to customers before years end if others want to pile on.

As I’ve stated multiple times, I don’t care when they actually arrive at this point if the product is better.
Tasty tasty beer coming my way
 

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I guess Labor Day weekend will be a good time to take you for a ride in a can am!

lol

i sure hope to see the new car at SSSS, Costa Mesa!

The dealer rep I talked to seemed acutely aware that if these things are not at the Sand Show and Off Road Expo it’s going to be a major blow to confidence, and if they are there it’s going to be a huge boost in enthusiasm and sales.
 
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The dealer rep I talked to seemed acutely aware that if these things are not at the Sand Show and Off Road Expo it’s going to be a major blow to confidence, and if they are there it’s going to be a huge boost in enthusiasm and sales.

Now that is a statement I agree with.
If they don’t release a production start date and the pre-productions cars are not at the show, this goes sideways fast.

Still shocked every time I am in Havasu, ZERO work has been done to the building they purchased. You would think they want that open and selling before desert season starts. Monster Bash kickoff party at Speed would of been a cool idea!
 

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Now that is a statement I agree with.
If they don’t release a production start date and the pre-productions cars are not at the show, this goes sideways fast.

Still shocked every time I am in Havasu, ZERO work has been done to the building they purchased. You would think they want that open and selling before desert season starts. Monster Bash kickoff party at Speed would of been a cool idea!

I agree. At the end of the day they got a lot of balls in the air with all the racing commitments, Super Truck series and all the behind the scenes work getting these cars production ready. I think the dealership will have some focus on it in 60 days or less.
 
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The dealer rep I talked to seemed acutely aware that if these things are not at the Sand Show and Off Road Expo it’s going to be a major blow to confidence, and if they are there it’s going to be a huge boost in enthusiasm and sales.

I would place a wager they are at the Ssss. They have three booths?
 
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The dealer rep I talked to seemed acutely aware that if these things are not at the Sand Show and Off Road Expo it’s going to be a major blow to confidence, and if they are there it’s going to be a huge boost in enthusiasm and sales.
I do hope that there is one of the production units at the show, but I think that will be a huge undertaking. I am assuming those parts we see in the presentations are in China. Are they going to assemble the pre-production ones in China, then fly a whole car over, or fly over all the parts to the assembly plant in Texas, then assemble it there and bring it back to California in less than 30 days from now?

My hunch is that the carbon fiber prototype will be the one on display. I hope I am wrong.
 

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I think they have to have a car at a minimum, but a few cars at the show will be kick ass! a production car would be ideal to show they are ready to go!
just think a year ago October they had the car at the UTV championship and it wasn’t 100% so they are really steeping up



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I do hope that there is one of the production units at the show, but I think that will be a huge undertaking. I am assuming those parts we see in the presentations are in China. Are they going to assemble the pre-production ones in China, then fly a whole car over, or fly over all the parts to the assembly plant in Texas, then assemble it there and bring it back to California in less than 30 days from now?

My hunch is that the carbon fiber prototype will be the one on display. I hope I am wrong.

The cars are being assembled in Texas, for the 100th time.

If the 2 mule cars are the only ones there people will be pissed.

If that first production car was in China, yes they will have to fly it over. It would have already had to have been on a boat if they were floating it over.

Everyone keeps acting like the pictures we are seeing is what is happening right now and it is not. At this point most of what we are seeing happened weeks or months ago.

A great example of this was the cage jigs and welders pages ago. RDP said it would be 6-9 months before they had cages. Well 3 weeks later we were seeing pictures of chassis parts and 3 months later there is a whole car. The pictures were obviously old.
 

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I think they have to have a car at a minimum, but a few cars at the show will be kick ass! a production car would be ideal to show they are ready to go!
just think a year ago October they had the car at the UTV championship and it wasn’t 100% so they are really steeping up

Honestly if they do announce production mid September and have the “production” cars there I think that is a huge accomplishment. 2 years from design to production on a 100% new vehicle is very respectable. I’ve said these things would be late for 2 years since the moment they were announced.

We have been hearing about a “Polaris Pro R“ for over 18 months, and they are a well established industry leader and already had the power train developed. Nothing yet on that still, although I assume they will be at the Sand Show to spite Robby Gordon :)
 

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The cars are being assembled in Texas, for the 100th time.
If the 2 mule cars are the only ones there people will be pissed.
If that first production car was in China, yes they will have to fly it over. It would have already had to have been on a boat if they were floating it over.
Everyone keeps acting like the pictures we are seeing is what is happening right now and it is not. At this point most of what we are seeing happened weeks or months ago.
A great example of this was the cage jigs and welders pages ago. RDP said it would be 6-9 months before they had cages. Well 3 weeks later we were seeing pictures of chassis parts and 3 months later there is a whole car. The pictures were obviously old.

Your working too hard and wasting your time defending RG. Just watching the guy organize and race is enuff to be confident “Speed Car” going to be total success. I doubt the car will ever be mass produced as Polaris or others. Speed Car will be the DCB,Nordic,Howard, Eliminator of the off road & desert world.
 

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The dealer rep I talked to seemed acutely aware that if these things are not at the Sand Show and Off Road Expo it’s going to be a major blow to confidence, and if they are there it’s going to be a huge boost in enthusiasm and sales.
Kind of a sink or swim type deal. Aren’t these to wide for a toy hauler?
 

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Kind of a sink or swim type deal. Aren’t these to wide for a toy hauler?

It’s not sink or swim.. I don’t see a ton of people canceling orders if the cars are t there. But it is a huge opportunity to gather momentum and renewed interest, and more customers

He’s got a years worth of these things sold or committed from dealers

They are 77” wide, they will fit in most newer, larger toy haulers. All the dimensions are on their website.
 

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Your working too hard and wasting your time defending RG. Just watching the guy organize and race is enuff to be confident “Speed Car” going to be total success. I doubt the car will ever be mass produced as Polaris or others. Speed Car will be the DCB,Nordic,Howard, Eliminator of the off road & desert world.

Agreed.

Their goal is to build 80 per day when they really get going, and honestly that has been the hold up, is making the car mass production friendly. You can’t hit things with a rubber mallet on an assembly line, so they are making small changes to tolerances here or there.

How do you assemble a 10,000 piece jigsaw puzzle in the fastest way possible? - that is what they have been working on the last few months.
 

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Speed Car is all about RG. Same as the Performance Boats. Down the road will be interesting the involvement or end game RG has planned for himself. He is Speed Car. Performance Boats the best remaining source for individuals with vision.Should have included Hallett, Bruce Nescher. Should just remember and mention all the founders of boats. Where else but LHC and West Coast all these years. Think about all the names and stories & history
 

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Sand cars have been going into toy haulers for years, the speed car will never get as wide as some of the bigger sand cars.
That’s what I was thinking. But I thought I heard they may not fit. 77” shouldn’t be a problem.
 

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I am not sure if you guys know but there’s a bunch of these running around. There isn’t just 2
 

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I am not sure if you guys know but there’s a bunch of these running around. There isn’t just 2

No there isn’t, they are all in China, built in China, in RGs Chinese garage and will be coming over by boat. He will never be able to mass produce them.

I’ve only been saying that there are multiple mule cars for 6 months now.. RDP members have SEEN the test cars.
 

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The cars are being assembled in Texas, for the 100th time.

If the 2 mule cars are the only ones there people will be pissed.

If that first production car was in China, yes they will have to fly it over. It would have already had to have been on a boat if they were floating it over.

Everyone keeps acting like the pictures we are seeing is what is happening right now and it is not. At this point most of what we are seeing happened weeks or months ago.

A great example of this was the cage jigs and welders pages ago. RDP said it would be 6-9 months before they had cages. Well 3 weeks later we were seeing pictures of chassis parts and 3 months later there is a whole car. The pictures were obviously old.
The one preproduction car they showed in the Coyne video was not in Texas. I've been in Asian factories and that was an Asian factory.

When they say it is being assembled in Texas I get it. They are doing final assembly of sub-assemblies there.

When I asked Karla Romano a month ago if they were going to have a car at the show she said that is what they were pushing for.

I'm excited as everyone to get mine.
 

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The one preproduction car they showed in the Coyne video was not in Texas. I've been in Asian factories and that was an Asian factory.

When they say it is being assembled in Texas I get it. They are doing final assembly of sub-assemblies there.

When I asked Karla Romano a month ago if they were going to have a car at the show she said that is what they were pushing for.

I'm excited as everyone to get mine.

I 100% agree with you, they are figuring out the assembly overseas because that's where they are best equipped to do it, and where the parts and tooling are.

To be fair, this is exactly how every other SXS is built. Overseas parts assembled on this continent. Polaris and Speed are build in the USA, Can Ams are built in Mexico.
 
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Well if they DONT make the SSSS then MAYBE I could afford a spot on the list. lol!
 
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I am not sure if you guys know but there’s a bunch of these running around. There isn’t just 2

I saw a few of them in person in Havasu but for some reason they still hadn’t been produced per a few forum members who have no deposits or plans to purchase one lol
 

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I saw a few of them in person in Havasu but for some reason they still hadn’t been produced per a few forum members who have no deposits or plans to purchase one lol

You were in China and didn’t know it.
 

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I saw a few of them in person in Havasu but for some reason they still hadn’t been produced per a few forum members who have no deposits or plans to purchase one lol
Well that’s not me. I might possibly buy one after the bugs are out.
but without sounding like a dick and bashing these, that will not be until 2023.
By 2023 all the builders will have something great and better than the current models.
so will a 2023 can am or Polaris be equal to a 2021, i mean 2022 speed? Im going with yes.
unfortunately RG debut these too soon. The hype was built, COVID hit. The hype by delivery time will not be at the same level. It just won’t. Sure it’s going to be amazing. But so will the rest with no wait time.
but, I don’t know shit. I will be at the ssss and I will go looking for it.
 

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Well that’s not me. I might possibly buy one after the bugs are out.
but without sounding like a dick and bashing these, that will not be until 2023.
By 2023 all the builders will have something great and better than the current models.
so will a 2023 can am or Polaris be equal to a 2021, i mean 2022 speed? Im going with yes.
unfortunately RG debut these too soon. The hype was built, COVID hit. The hype by delivery time will not be at the same level. It just won’t. Sure it’s going to be amazing. But so will the rest with no wait time.
but, I don’t know shit. I will be at the ssss and I will go looking for it.

No it wasn’t you but it’ll be hard for the other manufacturers to compete with the current RG car in the next few years. It’s that far beyond what’s currently available.

I was with some very well known industry people when we went to see the RG car and impressed was an understatement. They all drove the car that day.

The current manufacturers are enjoying lucrative profit margins that this car won’t support if they were to try and move in that direction. My guess is that they’ll continue to produce cars that return similar margins while their loyal fan demographic wises up and the Speed car begins capturing market share.
 

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Ha. I lie all day. This is nothing.
I really want one. I started looking at these a year ago. Then figured I’d wait for the 22 can am’s. Well they didn’t change enough to buy one a 22
So now unfortunately I don’t think a speed care is a option for the year of 22. Which means I’m looking at 2023 can am’s.
if theses speeds would have been ready then guys like me would make the jump. 2022 models from can am and Polaris are not a big enough improvement to switch this year or most of next.

speed blew the load to soon. But who knew supply chains would be so fucked up. You can’t even get a truck right now.

to be honest most companies such as these would have already folded.
 

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No it wasn’t you but it’ll be hard for the other manufacturers to compete with the current RG car in the next few years. It’s that far beyond what’s currently available.

I was with some very well known industry people when we went to see the RG car and impressed was an understatement. They all drove the car that day.

The current manufacturers are enjoying lucrative profit margins that this car won’t support if they were to try and move in that direction. My guess is that they’ll continue to produce cars that return similar margins while their loyal fan demographic wises up and the Speed car begins capturing market share.
And this is likely. But guys like me need a test drive and for the rest to give it a year to beat the crap out of it.
I was hoping to be a buyer in 22. That’s 23 now

I’m pretty surprised by the motor and trans in the speed. To me that’s the risky part.
 
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And this is likely. But guys like me need a test drive and for the rest to give it a year to beat the crap out of it.
I was hoping to be a buyer in 22. That’s 23 now

I’m pretty surprised by the motor and trans in the speed. To me that’s the risky part.

I don’t blame anyone for being skeptical. They should be and had I not been able to see it run in person I would be too. Your skepticism is genuine.

I have no doubts the car will be here soon. It’s an impressive and monumental hill to climb what RG is trying to do if you’re familiar with business. Then doing it in one of the most highly competitive business verticals is crazy when you think about it.
 

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I don’t blame anyone for being skeptical. They should be and had I not been able to see it run in person I would be too. Your skepticism is genuine.

I have no doubts the car will be here soon. It’s an impressive and monumental hill to climb what RG is trying to do if you’re familiar with business. Then doing it in one of the most highly competitive business verticals is crazy when you think about it.
The guy has balls. That’s for sure.
 
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Kind of a sink or swim type deal. Aren’t these to wide for a toy hauler?
They'll fit. If guys kick out the wheel offsets then they'll haul them with a skinny set of transport wheels. Not unusual already with Dune Buggies.
These just might be half way between a SXS and a 10 car.
 

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Well that’s not me. I might possibly buy one after the bugs are out.
but without sounding like a dick and bashing these, that will not be until 2023.
By 2023 all the builders will have something great and better than the current models.
so will a 2023 can am or Polaris be equal to a 2021, i mean 2022 speed? Im going with yes.
unfortunately RG debut these too soon. The hype was built, COVID hit. The hype by delivery time will not be at the same level. It just won’t. Sure it’s going to be amazing. But so will the rest with no wait time.
but, I don’t know shit. I will be at the ssss and I will go looking for it.

If.. is a big word here, but IF these are out around the December/Jan timeframe I consider that a really big accomplishment. I know the engineering team lead for the Wildcat XX, and it took them longer than that to design the car and bring it to market, and they already had the Yamaha engine. What are you talking about no wait time? There have been no major improvements to the Polaris or Can Am lineup for over 2 years LOL.

The new Polaris Pro R we have been hearing about for 18 months, and was probably being designed a year before that. Again, Polaris already had that engine in the parts bin. I heard Can Am was supposed to debut a new transmission for 2022.. nothing. If you want a competitive 77" Can Am, you are gonna be waiting at least a year, maybe longer, maybe it will never come. Maybe the Polaris Pro R will debut at the Sand Show, But again, It will be typical Polaris, and need some upgrades, not to mention it is an NA car.. No quick tuning or E85 is gonna bump the power up. It is 220 HP forever unless you want to spend another $10K on a yet to be made forced induction setup, voiding all warranties.

A little over 2 years to design and bring a car to market from the ground up in 2 year is HUGE. When this thing drops the hype is still going to be huge.
 
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