4,000 Gallons Of Diesel Taken From Burbank Station

[RitcheyRch]

http://cbs2.com/local/Diesel.Theft.Burbank.2.749924.html


Police are investigating a whopper of a fuel theft from a service station in Burbank.

Police on Monday said the service station's owner reported 4,000 gallons of diesel disappeared sometime before 5 a.m. on Friday.

Burbank police Detective Sam Anderson says when the gas station opened at that time, workers found the underground diesel tanks had been drained.

The tanks were not locked, Anderson says, but a special device is needed to open them.

Anderson says there is no video footage of what happened, but whoever stole the fuel must have been driving a tanker truck.

 

[Skyskier]

Back in the '80s when we were ALL sitting in line waiting for gas, I wanted to hijack one of those tankers, take it out into the desert and torch it and send the message to the oil companies,: here's what us AMERICANS want ,..... we want our gasoline cheap ! and we want lots of it :swear Unfortunately ( maybe ) I couldn't find anybody to follow me out and bring me back

 

[76ANTHONY]

i doubt this will be the only one. this is gonna start happening alot soon when gas hits 6 bucks a gallon...

 

[500bbc]

Back in the '80s when we were ALL sitting in line waiting for gas, I wanted to hijack one of those tankers, take it out into the desert and torch it and send the message to the oil companies,: here's what us AMERICANS want ,..... we want our gasoline cheap ! and we want lots of it :swear Unfortunately ( maybe ) I couldn't find anybody to follow me out and bring me back

Torch a liberal instead.


The following is quoted as the number one reason we are paying through the nose for fuel.


1) Defeat of President Bush's 2001 energy package According to the BBC, "Key points of Bush('s 2001) plan were to:


-Promote new oil and gas drilling


-Build new nuclear plants


-Improve electricity grid and build new pipelines -$10bn in tax breaks to promote energy efficiency and alternative fuels


A New York Times article, dated May 18, 2001, explained:


"President Bush began an intensive effort today to sell his plan for developing new sources of energy to Congress and the American people, arguing that the country had a future of 'energy abundance if it could break free of the traditional antagonism between energy producers and environmental advocates.


Mr. Bush's plea for a new dialogue came as his administration published the report of an energy task force containing scores of specific proposals... for finding new sources of power and encouraging a range of new energy technologies."

[The Bush plan] "mentions about a dozen areas including land-use restrictions in the Rockies, lease stipulations on offshore areas attractive to oil companies, the vetting of locations for nuclear plants, environmental reviews to upgrade power plants and refineries that could be streamlined or eliminated to help industry find more oil and gas and produce more electricity and gasoline."


The article went on to quote some rather prescient words from the President, "this great country could face a darker future, a future that is, unfortunately, being previewed in rising prices at the gas pump and rolling blackouts in the great state of California" if his plan was not adopted in 2001.


The Times account continued:


"Mr. Bush talked not only of blackouts but of blackmail, raising the specter of a future in which the United States is increasingly vulnerable to foreign oil suppliers...Mr. Bush was praised by many groups for laying out a long-term energy policy. His report contained 105 initiatives..."


Just as President Bush's predictions have been born out, the article quoted from that most sage of Democrats, former President Jimmy Carter:


"World supplies are adequate and reasonably stable, price fluctuations are cyclical, reserves are plentiful," he (Carter) argued. Mr. Carter said "exaggerated claims seem designed to promote some long-frustrated ambitions of the oil industry at the expense of environmental quality."


But, as a later Times article notes, "the president's ambitious policy quickly became a casualty of energy politics and, notably, harsh criticism from Democrats enraged by the way the White House had created the plan."


In other words, Democrats refused the President's plea to "break free of the traditional antagonism between energy producers and environmental advocates."


Remember that the next time you pull up to the pump ... or the voter's booth.:swear:swear:swear

 

[Boobybouncer]

i've noticed that locking gas caps have been advertised more... you think it might get worse or something

 

[Sherpa]

I know the tanker trucks do have onboard pnuematic pumps, and those
can be used to pump-on the load, they aren't used to pump-off the load
since gravity does that.......

but: I'm not sure if they have the ability to pump-out station tanks from
ground level...... they'd need some sort of dip-tube for that..

--Sherpa

 

[RitcheyRch]

I was wondering the same thing. No idea how they did it.

I know the tanker trucks do have onboard pnuematic pumps, and those
can be used to pump-on the load, they aren't used to pump-off the load
since gravity does that.......

but: I'm not sure if they have the ability to pump-out station tanks from
ground level...... they'd need some sort of dip-tube for that..

--Sherpa

 

[EmpirE231]

dang... @ 5.20 per gallon... that's over 20k!! :hmm

 

[DannyH]

Theft in general is getting bad.

My father owns a trucking company and the number one thing his company hauls is different forms of steel. A few weeks back one of his dispatchers called him at 4 in the morning asking if he'd already headed out and taking one of the trailers out of the yard. My father said no and insisted that they look all over the yard for the trailer since he hand't moved it and none of the other drivers had. After looking around the yard for an hour they determined the trailer and full load on it were gone. 1 week later the trailer was recovered in a southgate neighborhood with the load gone, the trailer was attached to a tractor that had also been stolen. The steel was worth about $45K

When I was involved in the car wash gig we used tons of copper. You could build a submarine with all the copper in a car wash. One night an electrician left a little late from one of the washes we were building and forgot to lock the tunnel access door. When we arrived in the morning every piece of copper was stripped from the tunnel and back room. It took a crew of plumbers over 4 days to plumb all the copper in that place and took a few thieves a matter of hours to strip it all out.

I Fucking hate thieves! I'm sure it's POS tweekers doing all this shit.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Theft in general is getting bad.

My father owns a trucking company and the number one thing his company hauls is different forms of steel. A few weeks back one of his dispatchers called him at 4 in the morning asking if he'd already headed out and taking one of the trailers out of the yard. My father said no and insisted that they look all over the yard for the trailer since he hand't moved it and none of the other drivers had. After looking around the yard for an hour they determined the trailer and full load on it were gone. 1 week later the trailer was recovered in a southgate neighborhood with the load gone, the trailer was attached to a tractor that had also been stolen. The steel was worth about $45K

When I was involved in the car wash gig we used tons of copper. You could build a submarine with all the copper in a car wash. One night an electrician left a little late from one of the washes we were building and forgot to lock the tunnel access door. When we arrived in the morning every piece of copper was stripped from the tunnel and back room. It took a crew of plumbers over 4 days to plumb all the copper in that place and took a few thieves a matter of hours to strip it all out.

I Fucking hate thieves! I'm sure it's POS tweekers doing all this shit.

I hate them too. We get ripped on constantly on our jobsites since all our linesets are copper. We've even had a few units go missing since the coils are copper with aluminum fins.

The problem is it USED to be tweakers. Now its a VERY widespread amount of people. We even suspect some of the security company people used to guard the sites at night are in on it.

 

[454Rocket]

It'd be intresting to see what these guys get for the scrap... $.65/ lb?

Some asshat stole a tank of gas from a work truck last week, took off with the cap too... made it easier to replace it with a locking one, I guess.

 

[stokerwhore]

clean scrap i hear is 3-4$/lbs

 

[Yellowboat]

clean copper is about $3/lb brass is between 4 and 5.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

clean copper is about $3/lb brass is between 4 and 5.

My brother works for an electrician and (with the owner's consent) took the trimmings to the recycler after they stripped every wire (mind you some of this shit was about 1" in diameter). It came out to about a truck bed full and they got right around $2,600! Mind you that was about 3 months ago too and its gone up since then.

 

[Joker]

If anyone knows who has the 4K gallons of diesel, please let them know I'm interested in half of it for lets say whats fair, um 2 bucks per gallon.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

I am one of those folks who think this is just the begining; t won't be long before tanker drivers are accompanied by a'shotgun" rider at a minimum, I can see a point where they require a couple of "safety cars".
Naturally, someone will have to pay for that...anyone wanna guess who that will be?
Now, when it gets to grocery trucks needing escorts...well, hang on to yer shorts, folks, it is gonna be a rough ride.

 

[Yellowboat]

I am one of those folks who think this is just the begining; t won't be long before tanker drivers are accompanied by a'shotgun" rider at a minimum, I can see a point where they require a couple of "safety cars".
Naturally, someone will have to pay for that...anyone wanna guess who that will be?
Now, when it gets to grocery trucks needing escorts...well, hang on to yer shorts, folks, it is gonna be a rough ride.

I'd be willing to bet with in the next 10 years auto makers will advertise cars/trucks with "anti theft" and/or "armored" gas tanks.

 

[Flyinbowtie]

YB, I'd bet sooner than that they're offering "shielded" tanks to prevent the drill and drain deal so popular these days. The insurance people will demand it due to the price of replacing tanks.

 

[was thatguy]

I know the tanker trucks do have onboard pnuematic pumps, and those
can be used to pump-on the load, they aren't used to pump-off the load
since gravity does that.......

but: I'm not sure if they have the ability to pump-out station tanks from
ground level...... they'd need some sort of dip-tube for that..

--Sherpa

Vac-Truck. They have an auxilary engine that build a vacume in the tanker. It will suck 10,500 gallons of fluid in a matter of minutes, and look just like an off load while doing it.
(Common oilfield vehicle)

 

[Yellowboat]

Even a rented water pump could pull 4k gallons in very short order and can be rented for under 100 a day( well under for the 2" models that flow plenty.)

 

[Joker]

Chalk up one for the little guy! I know the stations dont make that much per gallon, but if this keeps happening, maybe, just maybe, the fuc*tards in govt will realize there is a problem.
I know diesel will be at 6 bucks by Labor Day.

 

[RitcheyRch]

I agree and am surprised someone hasnt offered something. I know there are a few items available to prevent the catalytic thefts that is becoming common on Toyota trucks.

I'd be willing to bet with in the next 10 years auto makers will advertise cars/trucks with "anti theft" and/or "armored" gas tanks.

YB, I'd bet sooner than that they're offering "shielded" tanks to prevent the drill and drain deal so popular these days. The insurance people will demand it due to the price of replacing tanks.

 

[Yellowboat]

Well if toyota would not BOLT on 4 cats on thier trucks there would not be as much theft.

 

[FOXMAN]

I know the tanker trucks do have onboard pnuematic pumps, and those
can be used to pump-on the load, they aren't used to pump-off the load
since gravity does that.......

but: I'm not sure if they have the ability to pump-out station tanks from
ground level...... they'd need some sort of dip-tube for that..

--Sherpa

I used to haul fuel... Not all tanker pulling semis, Which are the kind that usually haul to a gas station have a pump on board, When you deliver fuel to a regular gas station the tanks are in the ground so they are gravity filled. You pump fuel into above ground tanks with a pump that is NOT self priming, it is gravity feed from your tank. The guys who sucked out a station storeage tank would have to use a pump that self primed. Not standard equipment. They had to be set up to do just that... Steal Fuel...

 

[Yellowboat]

you asume they were using a fuel pump. Lots of other pumps on the market that could do the job no probs.

 

[FOXMAN]

No, Not many pumps will take pumping fuel. I'm guessing they used a "Wet Kit" pump. The kind of pump used to raise a truck body.

 

[Yellowboat]

A vac truck or a trash pump would work just fine.

 

[FOXMAN]

Vac truck would do it.. lots of fuel vapor expelled while doing it though. Chance of fire??? Very high. Trash pump... Not so sure. Seals are made to stand up to water not a fuel.

 

[Yellowboat]

Some how I don't think the guys that stole the fuel were worrying about OSHA all that much. Diesel is realativly safe, on the other hand gas is not.

 

[FOXMAN]

Your right. They were smart enough to do it without getting caught or blowing themselves up doing it.

 

[Outdrive1]

Where do you hide or store 4 thousands gallons of fuel? This has to be a farm, or business of some type. Not just some tweaker individual, but a bigger operation. If they were smart they would have just taken a small amount (500 or 1000 gallons) so that no one would notice or they would have thought there was a mis calculation in the sales or in what was delivered. Then again, they could be doing it to multiple stations and taking smaller amounts.

It's probably going to get worse from here.

 

[Joker]

They brought a whole new meaning to "self serve"

 

[HavasuWakecraftZR6]

Um guys this has Insurance job written all over it.....

 

[Wolskis]

A vac truck or a trash pump would work just fine.

I vote vac truck, but damn those things are loud as heck. Hmmm, movie of the week coming, "Gone in 120 minutes":beer

 

[RVRBUM]

Um guys this has Insurance job written all over it.....

I was thinking the same thing