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Sea Ray developed in partnership with BMW this new boat model that is incredible! Open bow cruiser with a large cabin! Check out the video and pics! We ran 64 Mph in Tennessee with twin 600 Mercury outboards! Equipped with Triple 300 outboards we ran 54 Mph! The acceleration is incredible for a cruiser! Call 602-670-3335 or email [email protected] for price and availability!

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Badass, do you run a seakeeper on this size boat in the ocean?
 

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Whats underneath that front bed? I can see there is a gap there, but cant tell what it is?
 

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That is just pimp! I like that it is usable for overnight runs and isn't just baller rocket. Don't get me wrong, I like the rocket CC's, but I'm also lazy and think a nap now and again is pretty nice too;)
 

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If purchased in the month of December, boat comes with an 8 year stem to stern transferable warranty!


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Im sorry guys, I gotta say it. Everybody loves these big cruisers with outboards right now. Pardon my French but i think theyre absolutely f*in retarded.

Where do people board a boat at the marina?
-The Back.

Where do people hang out on the boat while at anchor?
-The Back

Where do people enter and leave the water from on a boat?
-The Back

Where do we put a whole bunch of outboards, in the way, and creating a dangerous situation for anybody on the boat in a whole plethora of different scenarios?
-The Back.

Also, the boat is now gauranteed to have to come out of the water every time it needs service for its entire life. These boats dont exactly have trailers that you can hook up to your F150.


I mean WTF???

I get the premise behind sport fishers, outboard cats, bass boats, etc, etc.... but this is just stupid. sterndrives at most, but this boat really needs to be a pod or shaft boat. truly amazing and appauling to me that manufactures are turning this stuff out right now and people are actually buying them.
 

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Im sorry guys, I gotta say it. Everybody loves these big cruisers with outboards right now. Pardon my French but i think theyre absolutely f*in retarded.

Where do people board a boat at the marina?
-The Back.

Where do people hang out on the boat while at anchor?
-The Back

Where do people enter and leave the water from on a boat?
-The Back

Where do we put a whole bunch of outboards, in the way, and creating a dangerous situation for anybody on the boat in a whole plethora of different scenarios?
-The Back.

Also, the boat is now gauranteed to have to come out of the water every time it needs service for its entire life. These boats dont exactly have trailers that you can hook up to your F150.


I mean WTF???

I get the premise behind sport fishers, outboard cats, bass boats, etc, etc.... but this is just stupid. sterndrives at most, but this boat really needs to be a pod or shaft boat. truly amazing and appauling to me that manufactures are turning this stuff out right now and people are actually buying them.

@Shlbyntro this is the new woke RDP. You have to be inclusive of all boat types, shapes, colors and sizes or else you get banned… be careful 😂
 

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@Shlbyntro . . . . the boating industry has been in a 'strange place' for several years now.
The term 'makes sense' doesn't seem to be a factor at all anymore.
Everything seems to be driven off of fads, trends, sales, & volume, with one company after another trying to 'Out-Do' the other no matter how stupid or ridiculous it may be.
If I were in the market for a serious 'new boat' (of any kind), I think I'd be spending a lot of time traveling, not only to see potentials in person, but to actually visit the shops they are built in.
There's just entirely too much hype, smoke, and mirrors out there today.
 

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Im sorry guys, I gotta say it. Everybody loves these big cruisers with outboards right now. Pardon my French but i think theyre absolutely f*in retarded.

Where do people board a boat at the marina?
-The Back.

Where do people hang out on the boat while at anchor?
-The Back

Where do people enter and leave the water from on a boat?
-The Back

Where do we put a whole bunch of outboards, in the way, and creating a dangerous situation for anybody on the boat in a whole plethora of different scenarios?
-The Back.

Also, the boat is now gauranteed to have to come out of the water every time it needs service for its entire life. These boats dont exactly have trailers that you can hook up to your F150.


I mean WTF???

I get the premise behind sport fishers, outboard cats, bass boats, etc, etc.... but this is just stupid. sterndrives at most, but this boat really needs to be a pod or shaft boat. truly amazing and appauling to me that manufactures are turning this stuff out right now and people are actually buying them.
Uh oh you said retarded
 

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Im sorry guys, I gotta say it. Everybody loves these big cruisers with outboards right now. Pardon my French but i think theyre absolutely f*in retarded.

Where do people board a boat at the marina?
-The Back.

Where do people hang out on the boat while at anchor?
-The Back

Where do people enter and leave the water from on a boat?
-The Back

Where do we put a whole bunch of outboards, in the way, and creating a dangerous situation for anybody on the boat in a whole plethora of different scenarios?
-The Back.

Also, the boat is now gauranteed to have to come out of the water every time it needs service for its entire life. These boats dont exactly have trailers that you can hook up to your F150.


I mean WTF???

I get the premise behind sport fishers, outboard cats, bass boats, etc, etc.... but this is just stupid. sterndrives at most, but this boat really needs to be a pod or shaft boat. truly amazing and appauling to me that manufactures are turning this stuff out right now and people are actually buying them.

Or it says something about the outboard performance/reliability advantages over inboards that it's thought worth the packaging disadvantage?


Edited to add: Just asking, I really don't know.

Does seem funny they can't repackage the outboard for some applications like Rotax has:

 
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Or it says something about the outboard performance/reliability advantages over inboards that it's thought worth the packaging disadvantage?
Not even. There are a lot more 30yr old inboards out there vs 30yr old outboards.

A 4stroke ICE is still a 4stroke ICE. It doesnt matter how you package it, they are all still susceptible to the same inherent issues found in all 4stroke ICE engines.

Moderate fuel economy gains is the only arguement that holds a little bit of water
 
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I've made similar comments on some of the outboard boats before. I forget which one, but there was a center console in Florida with 5-6 big outboards on it at one of the boat shows and there was no transom space. I think at some point, twin inboards would be preferred over a bunch of outboards that all need to be maintained. This boat with 3 outboards still seems to leave some space on the transom, but I wonder if they offer the same boat with inboards and how it compares.

Having said that, an MTI CC with outboards is probably my first purchase if I were to win the lottery.
 

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I love this boat. No boat does everything perfect but this thing gets damn close.

It's a great day boat with room for more friends than I have up top. The lack of inboards allows for much more room below deck. You get a large rear berth.


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It also allows for a separate shower and toilet.
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It's fast and with sea keeper it's insanely comfortable.

There are a ton of mobile mercury mechanics. Need to rebuild an engine? With an inboard diesel it takes days of work just to pull the engine. At this price point having an outboard in reserve wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility and would ensure that I could be back out on the water the same day.

The ingress and egress from the back is super easy. I'm not understanding the hate. The amount of room gained on the boat alone makes the outboards well worth it. Throw in increased fuel economy as a bonus.
 

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I love this boat. No boat does everything perfect but this thing gets damn close.

It's a great day boat with room for more friends than I have up top. The lack of inboards allows for much more room below deck. You get a large rear berth.


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It's fast and with sea keeper it's insanely comfortable.

There are a ton of mobile mercury mechanics. Need to rebuild an engine? With an inboard diesel it takes days of work just to pull the engine. At this price point having an outboard in reserve wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility and would ensure that I could be back out on the water the same day.

The ingress and egress from the back is super easy. I'm not understanding the hate. The amount of room gained on the boat alone makes the outboards well worth it. Throw in increased fuel economy as a bonus.

Im sorry, but I have to whole heartedly disagree with you ingress/egress assessment. Its not even close to being functional.
 

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From my personal experience, the amount of wear and tear on a slipped stern drive sea ray sundancer is astronomical! I trailer my 290 now because the thousands of dollars of annual maintenance caused by having submerged out drives.

I would think that a lot of maintenance can be done on the back of the swimstep with outboards. Being able to tilt the drives out of the water, flush the motors in the water etc.. would avoid years and years of the comparable costs of traditional sun dancers with IO stern drives.

Plus with the OB sundancer you could put it on just about any trailer for a day to service it at a fraction of the cost of having to haul it out on slings or whatnot.

But at 850k none of these 1000s of annual maintenance dollars should not affect the owner of any engine choice who isn’t poor like me!

I think the trippers kills it for me… twins would have made it more of a game changer
 
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Not to be a Debbie downer BUT boats should have portholes not windows. I guess I spent too much time in the ocean to appreciate windows down low and on the quarter. Top it off with an open bow, no thanks. I have seen the windows pushed in and cracked. Ask your buddy to throw a fender over as your approaching the dock and they put it right where the window is. Oops. But you get a lot more light in down below.
 

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These types of boats are great! They do everything!

Open bow
Cruiser style seating
Over night accommodation for 2 couples or small family
Cook
Fridge
Shade / top
Fairly speedy
Can run in open water
Etc etc


They are also ugly.

I can’t stand the styling of these “all in one boats”. They remind me of when mini vans came out and everybody was justifying them because they are so versatile.

As well as they do everything - I’ll never own one because I just don’t like the styling.

Big. Bulbous. Tall. Awkward.

Did I mention $1,000,000?
 

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From my personal experience, the amount of wear and tear on a slipped stern drive sea ray sundancer is astronomical! I trailer my 290 now because the thousands of dollars of annual maintenance caused by having submerged out drives.

I would think that a lot of maintenance can be done on the back of the swimstep with outboards. Being able to tilt the drives out of the water, flush the motors in the water etc.. would avoid years and years of the comparable costs of traditional sun dancers with IO stern drives.

Plus with the OB sundancer you could put it on just about any trailer for a day to service it at a fraction of the cost of having to haul it out on slings or whatnot.

But at 850k none of these 1000s of annual maintenance dollars should not affect the owner of any engine choice who isn’t poor like me!

I think the trippers kills it for me… twins would have made it more of a game changer

you would think maintenance costs wouldnt matter, but most of these botes are financed and rarely does the owner take into account the cost of service to the boat every year. I have a harder time getting service dollars out of new boat owners than any other group of boat owners.

An outboard bote is no more or less trailerable than a sterndrive bote. additionally most people will not own a trailer for this boat. it will live in a slip and you will be at the mercy of your local marinas to pull it out of the water for service. I dont know what that costs in all parts of the world but in Austin the going rate is $50/ft + $2/day and thats before any work starts.

I recommended shafts or pods because 100% of the mechanical service can be done with the bote in the water, (my personal preference is shafts because they are less prone to electronics break downs) neither can be done on an outboard or sterndrive but the outboard is the least serviceable in the water of them all. you are limited to oilchanges sparkplugs and filters and even that is difficult on some models. good luck having to make any repairs to one on the water when it breaks down on you.
 
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Stern drives don’t belong on boats slipped in the ocean, pods are not the answer either. Outboards and shaft driven boats each have their own advantages.
I agree with no open bows in the ocean but my guess is that the drain system of this boat compares to a CC. Ultimately we don’t go in the water that often on the west coast so that has little to do with ocean boating and I don’t need the entire transom to be clear because I can tie the boat so you step on the corner.
 

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you would think maintenance costs wouldnt matter, but most of these botes are financed and rarely does the owner take into account the cost of service to the boat every year. I have a harder time getting service dollars out of new boat owners than any other group of boat owners.

An outboard bote is no more or less trailerable than a sterndrive bote. additionally most people will not own a trailer for this boat. it will live in a slip and you will be at the mercy of your local marinas to pull it out of the water for service. I dont know what that costs in all parts of the world but in Austin the going rate is $50/ft + $2/day and thats before any work starts.

I recommended shafts or pods because 100% of the mechanical service can be done with the bote in the water, (my personal preference is shafts because they are less prone to electronics break downs) neither can be done on an outboard or sterndrive but the outboard is the least serviceable in the water of them all. you are limited to oilchanges sparkplugs and filters and even that is difficult on some models. good luck having to make any repairs to one on the water when it breaks down on you.

I am a big fan of the new outboards for sure, but I agree with you on the swim step use. It’s not about can you get off and on, it’s a big part of the experience. Express cruisers are used most of the time parked and hanging off the back. Raft up, beached and sand bars etc. we spend a lot of time off the back of the boat.
 

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Best boat we ever had . . .
23' 1988 Correct Craft 'Fish Nautique' CC
Straight Shaft inboard, Borg Warner transmission.
Nothing on, or around the transom. Simple.
Fresh water cooled 351 Ford that was mid-ship down low under the CC which tilted forward, & the seat base tilted back exposing everything.
Low center of gravity . . . that thing was great in all conditions. Topped out around 45 mph.
Got relatively good mileage for the time.
When we sold it, we debated putting a small inline turbo diesel in it. But we didn't wanna deal with all the 'unknowns' to us.
We're really big fans of straight inboards in the ocean, but understand their drawbacks on lakes & more 'traditional use'.

Couple pics of that Correct Craft . . .

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Really stirred it up around here! Here are my thoughts.

You can also get in a stern drive version, automatic submersible swim platform is included then. Seakeeper is not an option with stern drives.

The biggest benefit of the outboards in my opinion is the higher rpm range. With triple 300’s it runs 13 mph faster than twin 8.2 stern drives. 300 hours before you change impellers.

Twin 600 outboards runs about 23 mph faster than stern drives.

With the triples it planes out almost immediately and hits 30 mph in less than 10 seconds. Stern drive cruisers don’t do that.

We took a customer out that has a quad 400 Mti center console and he was shocked! We will be doing demos if anyone is seriously interested. I never thought I would be impressed by a boat like this. Every single person that rides in it is shocked on the performance! See ya nxt week!
 

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I can’t stand the styling of these “all in one boats”. They remind me of when mini vans came out and everybody was justifying them because they are so versatile.

As well as they do everything - I’ll never own one because I just don’t like the styling.

Big. Bulbous. Tall. Awkward.

You don't like the Formula Super Sport Crossovers?

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Im sorry guys, I gotta say it. Everybody loves these big cruisers with outboards right now. Pardon my French but i think theyre absolutely f*in retarded.

Where do people board a boat at the marina?
-The Back.

Where do people hang out on the boat while at anchor?
-The Back

Where do people enter and leave the water from on a boat?
-The Back

Where do we put a whole bunch of outboards, in the way, and creating a dangerous situation for anybody on the boat in a whole plethora of different scenarios?
-The Back.

Also, the boat is now gauranteed to have to come out of the water every time it needs service for its entire life. These boats dont exactly have trailers that you can hook up to your F150.


I mean WTF???

I get the premise behind sport fishers, outboard cats, bass boats, etc, etc.... but this is just stupid. sterndrives at most, but this boat really needs to be a pod or shaft boat. truly amazing and appauling to me that manufactures are turning this stuff out right now and people are actually buying them.
Calm down....you won't be complaining as much when you have to change the plugs
 

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Im sorry guys, I gotta say it. Everybody loves these big cruisers with outboards right now. Pardon my French but i think theyre absolutely f*in retarded.

Where do people board a boat at the marina?
-The Back.

Where do people hang out on the boat while at anchor?
-The Back

Where do people enter and leave the water from on a boat?
-The Back

Where do we put a whole bunch of outboards, in the way, and creating a dangerous situation for anybody on the boat in a whole plethora of different scenarios?
-The Back.

Also, the boat is now gauranteed to have to come out of the water every time it needs service for its entire life. These boats dont exactly have trailers that you can hook up to your F150.


I mean WTF???

I get the premise behind sport fishers, outboard cats, bass boats, etc, etc.... but this is just stupid. sterndrives at most, but this boat really needs to be a pod or shaft boat. truly amazing and appauling to me that manufactures are turning this stuff out right now and people are actually buying them.
Not to mention every damn time we haul out the quoted price evaporates quickly and we don't even haul out for service as we do that ourselves.

Boats like this can absolutely shred a stack of $100 bills quickly.

I will never own another boat that does not have a trailer. When were done with "Four of a Kind" I am for sure done.
 
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