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Thoughts on the value or hammer price of this? I've wanted one since I was a little kid. I love that it is manual. I'll have to scratch the itch at some point and would prefer not spending a ton. I know it will be a 1-2 year fling.

 

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There is a great shop for this type of car that may have a good idea of what they are worth:

Is Terry still going? Years ago he had the baddest, red, 3 window coupe. Body had been a survivor, chopped heavy. He built it as a full fendered ride...damn I loved that car. He sold it some years back, dunno where it landed.

@lakemadness , as a guy that used to mess with those kinds of cars quite a bit, I'd ask who's body it was, as some are quite a bit better build than others. Also, who's chassis, and if boxed, how far forward and rear. The original frames had none, but the bodies flexed quite a bit. The doors with original latches could move around, and the cowl kind of clamped over the firewall. If the chassis is only boxed to the cowl, sometimes the support rods can start stress cracking on the fiberglass firewalls. If the rear isn't sturdy enough, cracking starts at the bottom corners of the door jambs.

A 5spd and a 350 in a 32 is a blast to drive. May not be the fastest thing you've driven, nowhere near it, but it's really fun.
 

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There was a guy on RDP I think from Havasu that sold one on RDP a few years back. He was asking about 34k, but I think he sold when he dropped into the mid to hi 20's, it seemed every bit as clean as this one. Even as detailed as that ad is, it's still very hard to tell if it's really built right, like monkeyswrench points out. My take on the test drive is it's stiff, small and a little hard to drive and probably as a few rattles, but I could be way off Base.
 

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Tons of these on the market due to the demographic aging out or passing away.

My father just built one (Over the course of 37 years!) - Contracted it out to a custom builder. It was an original steel bodied car from '34, the one for sale appears to be a new kit car (Fiberglass)

Something like that, nice driver quality? Could probably be had for $50K. Custom build? $100K-$150K depending.

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Tons of these on the market due to the demographic aging out or passing away.

My father just built one (Over the course of 37 years!) - Contracted it out to a custom builder. It was an original steel bodied car from '34, the one for sale appears to be a new kit car (Fiberglass)

Something like that, nice driver quality? Could probably be had for $50K. Custom build? $100K-$150K depending.

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Interesting take I hadn't thought of, generational shift maybe? Seems like street rods in the last few years have come down but muscle cars have skyrocketed.
 

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Two comments.

That is a glass body and not steel.

It is a dealer so you will have to pay sales tax most likely when you go to register it. So figure another 10 percent on top of the total bid and commission.
 

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Is Terry still going? Years ago he had the baddest, red, 3 window coupe. Body had been a survivor, chopped heavy. He built it as a full fendered ride...damn I loved that car. He sold it some years back, dunno where it landed.

@lakemadness , as a guy that used to mess with those kinds of cars quite a bit, I'd ask who's body it was, as some are quite a bit better build than others. Also, who's chassis, and if boxed, how far forward and rear. The original frames had none, but the bodies flexed quite a bit. The doors with original latches could move around, and the cowl kind of clamped over the firewall. If the chassis is only boxed to the cowl, sometimes the support rods can start stress cracking on the fiberglass firewalls. If the rear isn't sturdy enough, cracking starts at the bottom corners of the door jambs.

A 5spd and a 350 in a 32 is a blast to drive. May not be the fastest thing you've driven, nowhere near it, but it's really fun.

About a year and a half ago I came real close to buying this '36 Roadster which was a Strokers build. It was for sale on the HAMB a few years after Strokers sold it and the day before we left to get it, even rented a car hauler, I just couldn't pull the trigger. It kept me up all night. Now I regret not getting it. From what I've seen of their build, they did excellent work.

As far as the '32 in the thread, like mentioned above it's fiberglass and personally I can't stand fat tilt steering columns in old cars. Nothing about them looks right.
Just me though.
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I would say 40 is a very average , like said earlier must have decent boxed frame and interior for that. I am building same car only with steel brookville body and winters quickchange rear end and I will be 45 k in
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Model A spring, or coilovers? I always loved the whine of a quickchange. Hated notching or tweaking nice tanks though.
 

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Two comments.

That is a glass body and not steel.

It is a dealer so you will have to pay sales tax most likely when you go to register it. So figure another 10 percent on top of the total bid and commission.

Yes, I'm cool with a glass body. I dont want to spend for a steel body. I have some nice cars I splurged on, this won’t be one. This one is to scratch an itch for a summer, then its gone.

10%? I dont live in Komifornia.
 
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Yes, I'm cool with a glass body. I dont want to spend for a steel body. I have some nice cars I splurged on, this won’t be one. This one is to scratch an itch for a summer, then its gone.

10%? I dont live in Komifornia.

Havasu is just under 10% if it is a dealer. Mohave county and Havasu both have sales tax on dealer sales...... I just paid it on a BaT dealer lies P.I.T.A. sale.
 

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I love 32s and will own one some day rather soon and if this is your dream color, style, engin/trans, ect it is worth whatever you are willing to pay but the honest number is maybe 35K (My semi-informed non professional opinion).

Now factor 2,500 shipping, 3-5K taxes, and a bit for the hastle and lack of ability to inspect in-person..... 25K-28K you can't get hurt to bad. But again... opinions are like assholes and while mine never stink others do.
 

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I would say 40 is a very average , like said earlier must have decent boxed frame and interior for that. I am building same car only with steel brookville body and winters quickchange rear end and I will be 45 k in
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I’m planning this same build now. Traditional build with a flathead v8. Some inspirational pics I’ve been looking at
 

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Here ya go @Rennsport 🤣 This was the first car I had in my shop building. The only "hot rod" thing done to it was a later model 24 stud flathead...still had mechanical brakes even. I test ran it all over the dirt roads by my house, Bonnie & Clyde style!

The old school looking blue one looks a lot like one that came out of GA a few years back, landed here in AZ, but don't know for sure? If it's the same car, it is hands down, the best "survivor tribute". Right down to the 40's newspapers used in the top.
 

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Here ya go @Rennsport 🤣 This was the first car I had in my shop building. The only "hot rod" thing done to it was a later model 24 stud flathead...still had mechanical brakes even. I test ran it all over the dirt roads by my house, Bonnie & Clyde style!

The old school looking blue one looks a lot like one that came out of GA a few years back, landed here in AZ, but don't know for sure? If it's the same car, it is hands down, the best "survivor tribute". Right down to the 40's newspapers used in the top.
That is pure gold!
 

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You could also look for a Factory Five kit car, already done. They have a great reputation and there are quite a few out on the market. Might be a better fit for your "driver" wants & needs over a homebuilt or one-off type hotrod. One offs are pretty hit or miss, sounds like you know what you're looking at - component quality and suspension setup are probably the two biggest things needed in order to enjoy driving the car.

The other comment above about the re-enforced (boxed) frame and decent interior are spot on. Post up what you're looking at, the group will help you out.

My father spent untold money on his build, but it was a dream car of his since high school (He's 78 now) - to be honest, I thought it would ride better than it does. Has some teething issues like any new build. It also has a full custom frame, 5 speed and a 409 in it - different animal.

Rennsport - love the high boys you posted.

OP - take a look at the Hemmings & StreetScene magazine (The NSRA association) for sale listings. You'll find a concentration of hotrods on those sites.
 

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I'll add mine to your collection.
It's a Harwood tub, original hood, grill and chopped window. On an original frame thats been boxed front to back, 4 link rear with QAI coil overs. Front is your standard leaf set up with a dropped axle. 383/350 powertrain.
Getting ready to pull her apart and change up the look a little. I'm leaning towards blacking about a bunch of the rusty chrome, or maybe nickel plate all of the chrome. Either way, the chrome needs needs to be al re-done.

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You could also look for a Factory Five kit car, already done. They have a great reputation and there are quite a few out on the market. Might be a better fit for your "driver" wants & needs over a homebuilt or one-off type hotrod. One offs are pretty hit or miss, sounds like you know what you're looking at - component quality and suspension setup are probably the two biggest things needed in order to enjoy driving the car.
Factory five makes a ‘33, not a ‘32. I don’t care for their look, they can be spotted from a mile away for some reason. Their cobras are nice if done right. I’d go with one of those if I was in charge of the build. But I’ll most likely end up with a superformance when the time comes. Or a Kirkham if one comes along that is close or exactly what I’m looking for. Although for that price range I’d probably add another air cooled or GT3 to the garage.
 
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Yes, I'm cool with a glass body. I dont want to spend for a steel body. I have some nice cars I splurged on, this won’t be one. This one is to scratch an itch for a summer, then its gone.

10%? I dont live in Komifornia.
Unfortunately 9.8 in Arizona. Easier just to round up to 10.
 

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Why are most of these auto? The only way I get a ‘32 is if it’s manual. Is there something bad about a manual in a ‘32 hot rod?
One consideration is that there is no room for pedals down there - they start to resemble kit-kat bars. However, I think manual is the only way to go in these older rods.

"Dirtslinger" - very handsome car!! Bravo.
 

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Thoughts on the value or hammer price of this? I've wanted one since I was a little kid. I love that it is manual. I'll have to scratch the itch at some point and would prefer not spending a ton. I know it will be a 1-2 year fling.

I’ll put in a plug for the dealer, I’ve done business with him before and he’s super cool, knows his shit, and has nice stuff. Usually I would tell you to run seeing that it’s being sold from Ft Lauderdale, but Bullet Motorsports is legit.
 

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Why are most of these auto? The only way I get a ‘32 is if it’s manual. Is there something bad about a manual in a ‘32 hot rod?
Another consideration isn't just the pedals, they all started with three. The dilemma tends to be linkage. The early swaps, they put hanging pedals and hydraulic slaves. As things went "retro", some went to floor pedals with slaves. A "traditional" build with stock pedals ran a lever off the end of the pedal shaft, that pushed the throw out shaft...same deal the Lencos used to run, shaft through bell housing, with the fork on it. You can do it with a late model, but usually have to get creative with the TO fork, push/pull pivot swaps.

Even a wimpy little flat motor feels fun with a clutch in a pre-35!
 

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Another consideration isn't just the pedals, they all started with three. The dilemma tends to be linkage. The early swaps, they put hanging pedals and hydraulic slaves. As things went "retro", some went to floor pedals with slaves. A "traditional" build with stock pedals ran a lever off the end of the pedal shaft, that pushed the throw out shaft...same deal the Lencos used to run, shaft through bell housing, with the fork on it. You can do it with a late model, but usually have to get creative with the TO fork, push/pull pivot swaps.

Even a wimpy little flat motor feels fun with a clutch in a pre-35!
Got it! Thanks Monkey!
 

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One consideration is that there is no room for pedals down there - they start to resemble kit-kat bars. However, I think manual is the only way to go in these older rods.

"Dirtslinger" - very handsome car!! Bravo.
My dad just got done building this 32 with a TKX trans. There’s definitely not a lot of room for 3 pedals down there! Most builds put the master cylinders on the frame rail under the floor, he mounted this triple Willwood kit behind the dash
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.., I have no clue as to the value of these cars… But the $12,000 bid seems a little low.., maybe I should start bidding on it… Park it on my front lawn and chain it to one the axles on my fifth wheel trailer…
.. And have @NEIGHBOR GIRL drive me around🤷🏽‍♀️… oh wait a minute..,never mind ..,I forgot.. she is 30 years old and dosen’t know how to drive a stick shift…😳… what’s wrong with these younger people???…
 

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.., I have no clue as to the value of these cars… But the $12,000 bid seems a little low.., maybe I should start bidding on it… Park it on my front lawn and chain it to one the axles on my fifth wheel trailer…
.. And have @NEIGHBOR GIRL drive me around🤷🏽‍♀️… oh wait a minute..,never mind ..,I forgot.. she is 30 years old and dosen’t know how to drive a stick shift…😳… what’s wrong with these younger people???…

BaT is wild. I got in a bidding war over my road runner in the last 2 minutes that I think got it 10k higher.

People hide and watch and then come out during the last day usually.
 

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Thoughts on the value or hammer price of this? I've wanted one since I was a little kid. I love that it is manual. I'll have to scratch the itch at some point and would prefer not spending a ton. I know it will be a 1-2 year fling.



350 Chevy in a 32 Ford 👎

Glass body 👎

Looks neat but I couldn’t live with those two things in a 32 Ford.
 

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BaT is wild. I got in a bidding war over my road runner in the last 2 minutes that I think got it 10k higher.

People hide and watch and then come out during the last day usually.
… Pretty much what I was told by a friend of mine who used to buy and sell a lot of speed parts on eBay… The hawkers wait till the last 30 seconds or something and then bid a dollar or a penny over the last bid… probably why I never tried to buy anything off of eBay🤷🏽‍♀️
 
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