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Damn, that's a sexy boat.... you keeping it just like this, or giving it your touch?

I also need to know your secret. I can work 24hrs a day for a year, and not come up with an extra 100k (guessing) without selling my other bad ass sled to make the difference...

Props to you on the hustle..
 
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Damn, that's a sexy boat.... you keeping it just like this, or giving it your touch?

I also need to you your secret. I can work 24hrs a day for a year, and not come up a and 100k (guessing) with out selling my other bad ass sled to make the difference...

Props to you on the hustle..
Lol. That's kinda what I told him when he was trying to push me, which i respect, but I'm salary. Unless they make me a partner or I open my own place, I could work all I want for the same amount. Lol
 

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Gang Gang 🤟 congrats dude cant wait to run em
 

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Lol. That's kinda what I told him when he was trying to push me, which i respect, but I'm salary. Unless they make me a partner or I open my own place, I could work all I want for the same amount. Lol

Don't knock being on salary (W2), I own my business and still cannot work those hours and pull it off.... I'm always paying for something that's not fun related, like quarterly taxes....

I need a union side hustle...
 

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Right? Guys a fuckin baller for being early 30s. Props to him.
I'm surrounded by hungry people. My friend pushes me hard.

He works hard. But I tease him about it all the time.
I vent to you a lot so you understand haha

Beautiful boat. Go baller. Triple axle and drive guard has to be next on the list lol.
In time. We bought a parker pad in Feb so I wanted a turn key boat. Maybe do little stuff here and there. But really focusing remodeling the parker pad this year.

Damn, that's a sexy boat.... you keeping it just like this, or giving it your touch?

I also need to know your secret. I can work 24hrs a day for a year, and not come up with an extra 100k (guessing) without selling my other bad ass sled to make the difference...

Props to you on the hustle..
I think the benefit is running my own business. If I was on a W2 it would be different. I'll probably have an f32 lol. I do miss having a W2 cause running a business is stressful.

Gang Gang 🤟 congrats dude cant wait to run em
LFG!

Don't knock being on salary (W2), I own my business and still cannot work those hours and pull it off.... I'm always paying for something that's not fun related, like quarterly taxes....

I need a union side hustle...
I could only do it now that I'm somewhat young. Need to start hiring people soon.
 

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Don't knock being on salary (W2), I own my business and still cannot work those hours and pull it off.... I'm always paying for something that's not fun related, like quarterly taxes....

I need a union side hustle...

What's your average hours in a work week? If you put in 40. Bump it up to 100 for 11 weeks straight should net you 100k. I am to old now. 100 weeks where me down after to many in a row. 84 seems to be a happy medium when I have something on my mind I want or like now trying to keep all customers happy and not pass up to many jobs.
 

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Don't knock being on salary (W2), I own my business and still cannot work those hours and pull it off.... I'm always paying for something that's not fun related, like quarterly taxes....

I need a union side hustle...
Yeah i average 70-80hrs a week. All I do is work then go home and play with the kids. I would say ever since I stopped drinking, it changed my life.
 

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What's your average hours in a work week? If you put in 40. Bump it up to 100 for 11 weeks straight should net you 100k. I am to old now. 100 weeks where me down after to many in a row. 84 seems to be a happy medium when I have something on my mind I want or like now trying to keep all customers happy and not pass up to many jobs.
Doesn't matter for our business, I'm not in any trade. We work B2B and projects need to go through approval process 80% of the time over 150k. That can take 2-6 months, and longer. Then we have engineering work, fabrication after approvals then scheduling the work that is 95% in another states.

But to answer your question I'm around 60hrs week. I'm 44 and I don't think you are much older than me....lol. But i can also work 25 and still come out the same, but chose to work with my employees.
 

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I am by a few months Lol. I bid all the jobs so I can fluctuate my prices to create more work as needed. But I try to average a certain amount per hour or I would rather be at the river enjoying life. More I put in the more I make but the stress levels go up accordingly. I took a few years off of the hard work for a relationship. Now I want to buy a commercial building for my business and holy shit. The one I tried so hard to get recently would of been $7500 more a month after a big down payment. But I went all in trying to make it happen. Now I might just give up on that plan and not work so much.
 

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Yeah i average 70-80hrs a week. All I do is work then go home and play with the kids. I would say ever since I stopped drinking, it changed my life.
Your killing it! Hope to meet up in Parker sometime soon.
 

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Yeah i average 70-80hrs a week. All I do is work then go home and play with the kids. I would say ever since I stopped drinking, it changed my life.
That's not bad hours for being solo...

Props to you and from what you post here you have an awesome talent.

I've slowed way down on my bourbon drinking, like 2 drinks a month and I don't drink much anything else. I am going on a cruise in 2 weeks, and plan on being self medicated for most of the trip though.
 
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I am by a few months Lol. I bid all the jobs so I can fluctuate my prices to create more work as needed. But I try to average a certain amount per hour or I would rather be at the river enjoying life. More I put in the more I make but the stress levels go up accordingly. I took a few years off of the hard work for a relationship. Now I want to buy a commercial building for my business and holy shit. The one I tried so hard to get recently would of been $7500 more a month after a big down payment. But I went all in trying to make it happen. Now I might just give up on that plan and not work so much.
I'm trying to buy a building now too, but in Texas as I cannot afford one in CA... I can get buy with 13-15k sq feet with a about 2500 office included in that. Have 18k now all in but rent for us is finally moving up to where it makes sense to buy at a decent price. 3mil in ca doesn't get you much.

I missed a great one because it takes so long to get an LOI from the bank due to all the financials that are needed and PFS....

You want the building in another business name and have your construction business lease it and you can include your pay in that lease as well, then your construction business can write off the lease (including your pay) for rent. Then obviously you write off the deprecation on the building.
 
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Sorry for the hijack....

Back to the scheduled show...

When is the maiden voyage?
 

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I'm trying to buy a building now too, but in Texas as I cannot afford one in CA... I can get buy with 13-15k sq feet with a about 2500 office included in that. Have 18k now all in but rent for us is finally moving up to where it makes sense to buy at a decent price. 3mil in ca doesn't get you much.

I missed a great one because it takes so long to get an LOI from the bank due to all the financials that are needed and PFS....

You want the building in another business name and have your construction business lease it and you can include your pay in that lease as well, then your construction business can write off the lease (including your pay) for rent. Then obviously you write off the deprecation on the building.
Same here. I have 2 years left on the lease then trying to buy. I need about 15k sqft of warehouse and 2k of office. Pickings are slim.
 

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Beautiful boat! All of your stuff has always been super cool, I loved that Eliminator you had.

Good for you on working so hard and enjoying what you've put so much hard work and labor into.
 

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about time!! super excited for you guys, let me know when your heading out next.
 

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Beautiful, and I dig the colors and gel...they are timeless and less period telling than something tribal or otherwise. This will be like a cadillac to the 22 though... I had an i/o mach 26 and it was one of my favs..
 

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Sorry for the hijack....

Back to the scheduled show...

When is the maiden voyage?
hijack is fine. I'm in the same situation. Would love to buy my own building. Even trying to find a house with a shop is a pita. Cali is truly expensive to run a business.

I learn a lot on this forum with dudes goes off on topics. Real world scenarios

Leaving this Friday. Got to change the fluids on the boat to reset the maintenance schedule.
 

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Beautiful boat! All of your stuff has always been super cool, I loved that Eliminator you had.

Good for you on working so hard and enjoying what you've put so much hard work and labor into.
Thanks man! Truly came a long way and still learning things about the boating world.

about time!! super excited for you guys, let me know when your heading out next.
This your fault. hahah

HELL YEAH.. Congratulations.
Two boat gang

Beautiful, and I dig the colors and gel...they are timeless and less period telling than something tribal or otherwise. This will be like a cadillac to the 22 though... I had an i/o mach 26 and it was one of my favs..
Yeah i'm loving it more I look at it. It's not crazy graphics. Will see what the wife thinks this weekend. Hopefully she likes it. Once thing for sure it's alot quieter than the 280s two strokes.
 

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hijack is fine. I'm in the same situation. Would love to buy my own building. Even trying to find a house with a shop is a pita. Cali is truly expensive to run a business.

I learn a lot on this forum with dudes goes off on topics. Real world scenarios

Leaving this Friday. Got to change the fluids on the boat to reset the maintenance schedule.
Its stupid expensive and possible new state business taxes coming on, just going to get worse...
We can move and still make the same money and keep more of it as 95% of our work is outside CA, so it make sense for us.. But i was just paying $10k a month for 18k sq ft building all in 4 yrs ago and cheaper than that at 5-6 yrs ago. That's changing the last 4 yrs and now at 16k. we are getting into 2m dollar property territory now, but nothing is 2m in CA that is bigger than 5k sq ft....

Anyways,

What kind of speed does this boat see with motor package?

Will be looking forward for a complete review come Saturday. lol
 

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That's a bad ass mach. Congrats @ChrisV. You're going to like having more space for the family and a better ride when its rough
 

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Need more pics. this is a very nice boat the more i look at it. Badass hardware 👁️
 

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Need more pics. this is a very nice boat the more i look at it. Badass hardware 👁️
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Congrats on the new ride. Color coordinated ropes and towels are an unspoken mandatory accessory. As is the bikini for the misses.
I see you have adjustable tabs on her. That's something I wanted to put on mine so I could cruise at 70 -80 without the hop.
 

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Congrats on the new ride. Color coordinated ropes and towels are an unspoken mandatory accessory. As is the bikini for the misses.
I see you have adjustable tabs on her. That's something I wanted to put on mine so I could cruise at 70 -80 without the hop.
Thanks man!

As for the tabs. It’s definitely something I’m trying to get use to. Yesterday I was cruising at 60 and it would hop so much it’s annoying. So I said fuck it, power through it. Got to 80-90 and hop got better but too fast cruising with the kids. Put the tabs to +1 down and hop went away. Now I question if that’s the right thing to do? Supposedly you don’t want it down while turning? Or it’s down a lot? Again so many questions.
 

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Thanks man!

Now I question if that’s the right thing to do? Supposedly you don’t want it down while turning? Or it’s down a lot? Again so many questions.
I didn’t touch the tabs until The 4th time we used our boat. They are game changers. Now I set them when we hit the water based on conditions as well and the amount and placement of the people on the boat. I pretty much leave them unless there is a need to adjust usually a notch or two.

Interesting question on tabs and turning. Is this just at high speeds and high performance boats or all boats? We don’t have as long as a tab and only running about a max of 70 mph. Mostly running 35-55mph. Right there with you with questions and now a few more that you have posted @ChrisV .
 

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May be a good time to check out the Tres class. Not commenting on any lack of boating skills or anything like that but you’d gain a TON of knowledge on your specific boat.

My 25 Daytona had tabs with similar power and I spent so much time trying to learn the do’s and dont’s, what worked well and I’m not sure I ever fully knew what was right before I sold it.

Either way, bad ass boat and hopefully get to see it out on the water one day.
 

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I didn’t touch the tabs until The 4th time we used our boat. They are game changers. Now I set them when we hit the water based on conditions as well and the amount and placement of the people on the boat. I pretty much leave them unless there is a need to adjust usually a notch or two.

Interesting question on tabs and turning. Is this just at high speeds and high performance boats or all boats? We don’t have as long as a tab and only running about a max of 70 mph. Mostly running 35-55mph. Right there with you with questions and now a few more that you have posted @ChrisV .

Tabs on a vee are way different that tabs on a cat which is way different than tunnel tabs on a cat..

These are tunnel tabs.. they can help to get rid of porpoise, they can improve top speed on smooth water by increasing tunnel compression..

they can also catch a wave that fills up the tunnel and corkscrew your boat and leave you with either a memory that you really don’t want, or possibly make you a memory.. I’d use them very sparingly if at all unless you are on smooth water and really know what your doing.

RD
 

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Tabs on a vee are way different that tabs on a cat which is way different than tunnel tabs on a cat..

These are tunnel tabs.. they can help to get rid of porpoise, they can improve top speed on smooth water by increasing tunnel compression..

they can also catch a wave that fills up the tunnel and corkscrew your boat and leave you with either a memory that you really don’t want, or possibly make you a memory.. I’d use them very sparingly if at all unless you are on smooth water and really know what your doing.

RD
Dave's next how to drive video: tabs v and cat
 

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Tabs on a vee are way different that tabs on a cat which is way different than tunnel tabs on a cat..

These are tunnel tabs.. they can help to get rid of porpoise, they can improve top speed on smooth water by increasing tunnel compression..

they can also catch a wave that fills up the tunnel and corkscrew your boat and leave you with either a memory that you really don’t want, or possibly make you a memory.. I’d use them very sparingly if at all unless you are on smooth water and really know what your doing.

RD
My 25 Daytona had the tunnel tabs that Bob installed at the factory before I bought it new. Jim Foley sold me the boat and he and Bob stated that it helped with the “hop” at certain speeds on glassy water. He said it was like having a foot longer bottom. I never touched Them and never had an issue with them. Not sure I understand the comment “a wave that fills the tunnel” as they were extensions at the top of the tunnel, protruding flat with the top of the tunnel? Your knowledge is much greater than mine so I’m not doubting you. Just never heard of that.
 

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My 25 Daytona had the tunnel tabs that Bob installed at the factory before I bought it new. Jim Foley sold me the boat and he and Bob stated that it helped with the “hop” at certain speeds on glassy water. He said it was like having a foot longer bottom. I never touched Them and never had an issue with them. Not sure I understand the comment “a wave that fills the tunnel” as they were extensions at the top of the tunnel, protruding flat with the top of the tunnel? Your knowledge is much greater than mine so I’m not doubting you. Just never heard of that.

Where yours hydraulic or fixed? If you leave them up all the time it’s no big deal..

When you lower them and water comes through the tunnel and hits that tab it can pretty quickly upset the balance of the boat in a hurry..

Years back I machined some shit manually for an MtI race boat for their tunnel tabs.. in the big supercats they make them out of plastic with the intention that if it does get slapped by the water it flexes or just breaks it clean off. Better than the alternative
 

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Tabs on a vee are way different that tabs on a cat which is way different than tunnel tabs on a cat..

These are tunnel tabs.. they can help to get rid of porpoise, they can improve top speed on smooth water by increasing tunnel compression..

they can also catch a wave that fills up the tunnel and corkscrew your boat and leave you with either a memory that you really don’t want, or possibly make you a memory.. I’d use them very sparingly if at all unless you are on smooth water and really know what your doing.

RD
Thanks for the info Dave. 👍
 

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Tabs on a vee are way different that tabs on a cat which is way different than tunnel tabs on a cat..

These are tunnel tabs.. they can help to get rid of porpoise, they can improve top speed on smooth water by increasing tunnel compression..

they can also catch a wave that fills up the tunnel and corkscrew your boat and leave you with either a memory that you really don’t want, or possibly make you a memory.. I’d use them very sparingly if at all unless you are on smooth water and really know what your doing.

RD
Yeah i get the concept of the tabs. Basically adjust the air in the tunnels.

So far what i've learn over the weekend.

-Take off i set the tabs to +3. Once its about to roll over i back the tabs to 0. Planes pretty decent from what i can tell. Anything below 60mph I leave it at 0. 60-70 it starts to hop I put the tabs to .05-1. Hop goes away. Am I allowed to do this?

I would never go more than +1 faster than 40mph plus. Feels like the boat wants to nose dive. It's definitely a drivers boat and eyes constantly on the gauges and trim/tabs indictors.

My tabs are silver powder coated and they look burnt now. I don't know the term but something with water electricity?

Over all boat did great. Wife loves it, plenty of space. Only downside is the fuel mileage sucks. Expected with power. Just wish we didn't have to stop for fuel going from Springs to Pirates then back to Springs. 120-150 gallons of fuel used and 5 hrs driving time on the boat.
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Yeah i get the concept of the tabs. Basically adjust the air in the tunnels.

So far what i've learn over the weekend.

-Take off i set the tabs to +3. Once its about to roll over i back the tabs to 0. Planes pretty decent from what i can tell. Anything below 60mph I leave it at 0. 60-70 it starts to hop I put the tabs to .05-1. Hop goes away. Am I allowed to do this?

I would never go more than +1 faster than 40mph plus. Feels like the boat wants to nose dive. It's definitely a drivers boat and eyes constantly on the gauges and trim/tabs indictors.

My tabs are silver powder coated and they look burnt now. I don't know the term but something with water electricity?

Over all boat did great. Wife loves it, plenty of space. Only downside is the fuel mileage sucks. Expected with power. Just wish we didn't have to stop for fuel going from Springs to Pirates then back to Springs. 120-150 gallons of fuel used and 5 hrs driving time on the boat. View attachment 1394939
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Water electricity is electrolysis. Need some sacrificial anodes to keep that away from your tabs and drive.
 
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