22 Domn8er build

[paradise]

Build is getting started [emoji106]. I'll post pics when I'm out in Havasu and I think Dave is going to try and get some pics along the way. Domn8er is also sending me some [emoji106]

Doing a 350 Verado, I'm excited to see how it runs [emoji3][emoji3]

 

[Lunatic Fringe]

350 Verado is going to move it along nicely.:thumbsup

This will be fun to watch the build.

 

[RCDave]

Imo, o/b power is perfect for these types of hulls.

 

[Q4mtxUS]

Nice build sir. Watching this build on Dom8 FB. OB power is awesome and would like to see a dual helm, full rear bench version of this.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Imo, o/b power is perfect for these types of hulls.

Exactly as I've thought. Definitely subscribing to this thread!!

 

[Ace450x]

Nice build sir. Watching this build on Dom8 FB. OB power is awesome and would like to see a dual helm, full rear bench version of this.

I agree on this. Would definitely like to see one.

Congrats on the build!

 

[Riley1]

Dominator is using a splash of the placecraft 22 deck right? I have been wanting to see an outboard on this boat for so long. Stoked to watch this build! [emoji106]

 

[paradise]

Dominator is using a splash of the placecraft 22 deck right? I have been wanting to see an outboard on this boat for so long. Stoked to watch this build! [emoji106]

No, their hull is different. I believe they tooled it themselves.

They put a 200 on one of these bottoms and ran 61 with 4 people in the boat. [emoji106]

Domn8er


Placecraft

 

[paradise]

Nice build sir. Watching this build on Dom8 FB. OB power is awesome and would like to see a dual helm, full rear bench version of this.

Somehow missed this post... This will be dual helm, not the 'liquid lounge' setup with the wraparound rear bench. It will not have a full bench across the rear though, still just the 3/4 bench with the walkthrough. The deck is almost identical to their IO boat. Just some modifications to the hatch area.:thumbsup

 

[Ibeplumbing]

Congrats on the build. Looks like it is gonna be really cool. Why did go with the 350 verado?

 

[paradise]

Congrats on the build. Looks like it is gonna be really cool. Why did go with the 350 verado?

Over an I/O or over other OB options?

We've had I/O's on all of our lake and river boats since I was a kid, but our last couple ocean boats have had OB power. They're quiet (pro and a con ), seem to be lower maintenance, great fuel economy (my current boat sucks fuel), seem to make good speed with their respective horsepower...

All of that, and I wanted to try something different

I went Verado over other OB power just because they are so prevalent.

 

[Ibeplumbing]

Good enough for me. I'd really love to have an outboard boat next. Couple friends have them and they're pretty awesome. The pros outweigh the cons easily. I think for most people it's getting over the fact you don't have that big block sound anymore. That's the hardest part for me

 

[paradise]

Good enough for me. I'd really love to have an outboard boat next. Couple friends have them and they're pretty awesome. The pros outweigh the cons easily. I think for most people it's getting over the fact you don't have that big block sound anymore. That's the hardest part for me

Agreed on the sound!

 

[RCDave]

Did dominator have thoughts comparing a 350 verado to a 300xs?

What do you plan for setback, hyd. Jackplate?, etc

 

[paradise]

Did dominator have thoughts comparing a 350 verado to a 300xs?

What do you plan for setback, hyd. Jackplate?, etc

I wanted a 4 stroke so no real conversation there.

We are in mostly uncharted territory for them so between this boat and one other they are building hopefully we'll find the right setup.

As of now we are planning on a manual jack plate (didn't think it would be worthwhile for a hydraulic on a deckboat at 70mph, thoughts?).

We weren't planning on any setback

 

[RCDave]

I believe most ob tunnels benefit from some level of setback. It allows the prop to run in cleaner water and provides more leverage.

A hyd jackplate has many uses including optimizing prop height to the conditions. For top end runs it allows the prop to be semi surfaced to reduce drag, lower slip, and increase top end. Plus if you boat and anchor in shallower water, you can jack/trim the lower completely out of the water.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

I wanted a 4 stroke so no real conversation there.

We are in mostly uncharted territory for them so between this boat and one other they are building hopefully we'll find the right setup.

As of now we are planning on a manual jack plate (didn't think it would be worthwhile for a hydraulic on a deckboat at 70mph, thoughts?).

We weren't planning on any setback

If I were doing it, I'd definitely have a bracket for setback. Since it's uncharted territory for you and them with this package, I'd start with a pieced together bracket. Where you can change how far or close the motor is by changing the side plates of the braket. I'd probably start at 5" and see how it feels, then try a 10" doubt you'd need to try a 15" with how heavy that motor is.

I would very much recommend a hydraulic jackplate if you are planning on towing anybody behind the boat. That combined with tunnel tabs will allow you to get and stay on plane at low speeds and keep the prop buried while doing so. Then when it's time to air it out, lift the tabs and jackplate and let'er fly!

 

[paradise]

If I were doing it, I'd definitely have a bracket for setback. Since it's uncharted territory for you and them with this package, I'd start with a pieced together bracket. Where you can change how far or close the motor is by changing the side plates of the braket. I'd probably start at 5" and see how it feels, then try a 10" doubt you'd need to try a 15" with how heavy that motor is.

I would very much recommend a hydraulic jackplate if you are planning on towing anybody behind the boat. That combined with tunnel tabs will allow you to get and stay on plane at low speeds and keep the prop buried while doing so. Then when it's time to air it out, lift the tabs and jackplate and let'er fly!

We're doing tabs. The jack plate has about 6"-8" of setback built into it. Just wasn't convinced a hyd jack plate was necessary but maybe it is...

 

[Flying_Lavey]

We're doing tabs. The jack plate has about 6"-8" of setback built into it. Just wasn't convinced a hyd jack plate was necessary but maybe it is...

I would do it. In the grand scheme of things it isn't that much more money and makes using it MUCH easier.

 

[RCDave]

Here is some setback and a bobs hyd. Jack plate.

 

[paradise]

Here is some setback and a bobs hyd. Jack plate.

Haha, just a little setback.

Layup has begun

 

[paradise]

Just talked to Tony. It's a Bob's mechanical jack plate. We can always convert to hydraulic later if we wanted to but I'm going to have them price it out.

 

[rush1]

That's going to be a bitchen Domin8tor and it's going to fly :thumbsup

 

[sdmikey]

When is it supposed to be done?

 

[paradise]

What part of the river do you go?

We are on the lower river. Hidden shores down by Fishers/Martinez

 

[RCDave]

We are on the lower river. Hidden shores down by Fishers/Martinez

I would definitely go hyd. Jackplate then. Just to be able to get the lower out of the water when anchoring.

 

[paradise]

I would definitely go hyd. Jackplate then. Just to be able to get the lower out of the water when anchoring.

You guys win. Hydraulic Jackplate is added [emoji3]

 

[Abc123]

I would definitely go hyd. Jackplate then. Just to be able to get the lower out of the water when anchoring.

Cool boat!

 

[Warlock1]

You guys win. Hydraulic Jackplate is added [emoji3]

Ha ha good choice. I went to Fishers Landing for the first time with some regulars a couple of weeks ago and now I get to take my boat in to get backflushed due to the drive finding it's way into the sand.:grumble:

 

[paradise]

Haha yeah it definitely takes some practice to read the river. I've been boating this area for 20+ years and we still find sandbars every once in a while

 

[Flying_Lavey]

You guys win. Hydraulic Jackplate is added [emoji3]

Good choice! I wish I had the money to put one on my boat.

 

[scouter]

You guys win. Hydraulic Jackplate is added [emoji3]

What jack plate are you going with Zack?

Haha yeah it definitely takes some practice to read the river. I've been boating this area for 20+ years and we still find sandbars every once in a while

This past weekend the water was pretty low. We hit 3 times on our way up to Elbow sandbar and once coming back down.... Time to put the tri-toon up for the season maybe...

 

[paradise]

What jack plate are you going with Zack?



This past weekend the water was pretty low. We hit 3 times on our way up to Elbow sandbar and once coming back down.... Time to put the tri-toon up for the season maybe...

It's a Bob's Machine Shop jack plate.

Dang, it must've been really low for you guys to get hung up. Sounds like it's time for the little boat [emoji12]

 

[DaytonaBabe]

Ha ha good choice. I went to Fishers Landing for the first time with some regulars a couple of weeks ago and now I get to take my boat in to get backflushed due to the drive finding it's way into the sand.:grumble:

Man, that sounds like a crappy trip!!!! :eek








Congrats on the new boat, Zack! Can't wait to see more pics and check it out in person when it finally hits the water! :thumbsup

 

[aka619er]

Just talked to Tony. It's a Bob's mechanical jack plate. We can always convert to hydraulic later if we wanted to but I'm going to have them price it out.

Keep on eye out on Ebay. I bought mine as a brand new in the box Bobs Hydraulic with a 10" setback delivered for $675. I was the only person to bid on the auction.

 

[Warlock1]

Man, that sounds like a crappy trip!!!! :eek

It was terrible NO ONE should ever go to the lower river ever again :eek

 

[paradise]

Color going down on the deck [emoji106]

 

[Cole Trickle]

That's going to be an awesome lower river party barge:thumbsup:cool

 

[No Butt No Putt]

I've wanted to do one of these
With a 300xs.

I'm interested to see how this boat runs with the 4 stroke.

 

[paradise]

I've wanted to do one of these View attachment 521342
With a 300xs.

I'm interested to see how this boat runs with the 4 stroke.

The only problem with those are they are so low profile that you have no ability to take them anywhere but the lower river. Even if the wind picks up you've got a good chance to take a huge amount of water over the bow. We've seen those a couple times with six or so people in them and the bow is only a couple inches off the water at idle. [emoji15]

 

[No Butt No Putt]

The only problem with those are they are so low profile that you have no ability to take them anywhere but the lower river. Even if the wind picks up you've got a good chance to take a huge amount of water over the bow. We've seen those a couple times with six or so people in them and the bow is only a couple inches off the water at idle. [emoji15]

I don't have that many friends so it would just be me, wife and my son. [emoji22] lol

 

[paradise]

I don't have that many friends so it would just be me, wife and my son. [emoji22] lol

It would haul ass, that's for sure [emoji106]

 

[No Butt No Putt]

It would haul ass, that's for sure [emoji106]

I'm curious to see what that 22 will run with the verado.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

The only problem with those are they are so low profile that you have no ability to take them anywhere but the lower river. Even if the wind picks up you've got a good chance to take a huge amount of water over the bow. We've seen those a couple times with six or so people in them and the bow is only a couple inches off the water at idle. [emoji15]

But have you ever seen one with an outboard? I haven't. I've never heard of one until a couple this last year. I'd bet it doesn't sit nearly as low due to the reduction in drive train weight and that drive train weight being outside the hull. It should result in a higher and lighter riding nose.

 

[paradise]

But have you ever seen one with an outboard? I haven't. I've never heard of one until a couple this last year. I'd bet it doesn't sit nearly as low due to the reduction in drive train weight and that drive train weight being outside the hull. It should result in a higher and lighter riding nose.

No I have never seen one with an outboard, but those hulls have no freeboard. Put a couple people in the front and it doesn't matter where the other weight is at they're going to sit low in the nose.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be a fun boat, I just don't think it's a very practical hull for anywhere except for the lower river. I think I've only ever seen two of them even down here.

 

[No Butt No Putt]

But have you ever seen one with an outboard? I haven't. I've never heard of one until a couple this last year. I'd bet it doesn't sit nearly as low due to the reduction in drive train weight and that drive train weight being outside the hull. It should result in a higher and lighter riding nose.

That's true. I didn't think about that.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

No I have never seen one with an outboard, but those hulls have no freeboard. Put a couple people in the front and it doesn't matter where the other weight is at they're going to sit low in the nose.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be a fun boat, I just don't think it's a very practical hull for anywhere except for the lower river. I think I've only ever seen two of them even down here.

It's a huge weight difference and CG difference. The weight of a 8.2 Merc big block is just shy of 1,200 lbs. A 300XS is 550#. You're talking about removing over 600# from the boat in total (give or take for rigging and different drive types and such), and the. Taking that remaining weight and moving it about 4 to 5 feet backwards. Everything else equal, that'll for sure raise the bow and allow the boat to sit a bit higher overall.

 

[rivrrts429]

The only problem with those are they are so low profile that you have no ability to take them anywhere but the lower river. Even if the wind picks up you've got a good chance to take a huge amount of water over the bow. We've seen those a couple times with six or so people in them and the bow is only a couple inches off the water at idle. [emoji15]

That picture was taken in Havasu, not the lower river lol

But, you're right, it's a lower river boat. I think the bottom is similar to the 19' Cheyenne.

An efficient bottom that became a deck boat. When John D had the molds I think they had a top deck mold that gave you the closed deck option.

I have been in them a few times and they're great boats. I haven't been in one yet though (Placecraft, Shockwave, Ultra) that you wouldn't get a spray here and there on a rough Parker or Havasu weekend. I don't know anything about the Domn8ter and have never seen one in person. Looks big for its size which should help.

Looking forward to seeing this come together. Looks like it will be a fun boat with the outboard. Congrats [emoji106]

 

[paradise]

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That picture was taken in Havasu, not the lower river lol

But, you're right, it's a lower river boat. I think the bottom is similar to the 19' Cheyenne.

An efficient bottom that became a deck boat. When John D had the molds I think they had a top deck mold that gave you the closed deck option.

I have been in them a few times and they're great boats. I haven't been in one yet though (Placecraft, Shockwave, Ultra) that you wouldn't get a spray here and there on a rough Parker or Havasu weekend. I don't know anything about the Domn8ter and have never seen one in person. Looks big for its size which should help.

Looking forward to seeing this come together. Looks like it will be a fun boat with the outboard. Congrats [emoji106]

The Domn8er is big for it's size. That's part of what I like about it, we boat primarily in the lower river, but we do venture up to some other lakes and while it certainly won't handle 'big' water, a little freeboard is nice...

I've been in a 21 Ultra deck which is that same hull with 4 other people and it was closer than i wanted to be to the water day to day. Different strokes for different folks

 

[paradise]

More Progress on the bottom. [emoji106][emoji106]