2025 Stock Market Thread

[~JM~]

I watched Felix Pren last night on META. He makes a good case.

That dudes voice… I cant listen to him for long, but I do like his thought process’s

Think I'd rather listen to Winston.

 

[t&y]

I wonder how many of the people who think we are getting fucked by China would rather live in China, work in China or be Chinese?

If being an American, and experiencing the American dream is getting fucked by China and the Chinese people, I'll take a good fucking every day over having to fight for a living in China as a Chinese National.

Lol... Why am I not shocked you enjoy being fucked by China.

The sky is falling.. the sky is falling...

 

[PaPaG]

Looks like it is starting to work... Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, South Korea, Taiwan, Canada, India, UK, Australia, Israel, Mexico all state they are willing to negotiate on Tariffs, when we get another 20 or so and if China is included in major changes watch the market BOOM TO THE MOON.... (Hopefully lol).

 

[185EZ]

I bought the last share of MFKR
Hopefully today was the last day of this circus

 

[702sandman]

I agree totally. I think we’ve let things get out of hand going for the cheap labor and depending on china (RX and micro chips for example) we have to find a happy medium. I think that’s part of this tariff war. Not to mention just make leveling the paying field. Cheap t shirts and tvs in China cool. The important stuff? Not so much. Balance it out. Given them waaaaay too much control over us. Theres gonna be some adjustment and pain in the ass moments but again, this was a long time coming.

I was hoping we could do like a phase in of the Tarrifs, start out with 5-10% immediately than 1 year out anther 5-10% etc and this way we give these countries time to make changes and move over here to the US for production. Seems like dropping the bomb on them all at once is shocking the system, but maybe its the only way to get them to lower what they charge us faster hopefully this will be fast and he gets what he wants fast, so we can get some normalcy going and that will trigger a nice up swing.

 

[BabyRay]

I was hoping we could do like a phase in of the Tarrifs, start out with 5-10% immediately than 1 year out anther 5-10% etc and this way we give these countries time to make changes and move over here to the US for production. Seems like dropping the bomb on them all at once is shocking the system, but maybe its the only way to get them to lower what they charge us faster hopefully this will be fast and he gets what he wants fast, so we can get some normalcy going and that will trigger a nice up swing.

Trump 2.0 doesn’t operate like that. It’s all about making it happen RIGHT NOW.

I’m not hoping for people to be hurt, but this is a heck of an opportunity for anybody with cash on hand.

 

[Runs2rch]

Trump 2.0 doesn’t operate like that. It’s all about making it happen RIGHT NOW.

I’m not hoping for people to be hurt, but this is a heck of an opportunity for anybody with cash on hand.

So what should be picked up?

 

[185EZ]

I'm crying being down another $30k today
Can't imagine C-ya and his nvda stock
If my calculations are correct he's down 2 mil

 

[530RL]

I'm crying being down another $30k today
Can't imagine C-ya and his nvda stock
If my calculations are correct he's down 2 mil

Every owner of a private company is down today also as his business is now worth less.

The only comfort they have is they don't have to look at the price decline on an exchange.

 

[DRYHEAT]

I was hoping we could do like a phase in of the Tarrifs, start out with 5-10% immediately than 1 year out anther 5-10% etc and this way we give these countries time to make changes and move over here to the US for production. Seems like dropping the bomb on them all at once is shocking the system, but maybe its the only way to get them to lower what they charge us faster hopefully this will be fast and he gets what he wants fast, so we can get some normalcy going and that will trigger a nice up swing.

If you have cancer, do you want to cut it out a little bit at a time or do you want to get rid of it all and get clear margins?

I don’t think the phased in method works, it’s too easy to keep kicking the can down the road. The shock and awe method has people talking and reacting. Time will tell, something needs to be done, especially with regard to national security of all types.

 

[Sandlord]

Look at this,
We are right back to where we were when the 2024 campaign season started.
make up your own conclusions.

 

[shintoooo]

I'm surprised Bitcoin is holding up so well. I think that's going down next week.

 

[BabyRay]

So what should be picked up?

Far be it from me to claim I have the answer to that. We use an advisory firm, and we’re mostly invested in stock funds and bonds.

Being long retired, we’re more interested in asset preservation and income than we are in growth. We do have cash coming in next week that we’ll be investing though, and I believe the returns will be pretty good if things don’t turn around too quickly.

 

[DILLIGAF]

I'm crying being down another $30k today
Can't imagine C-ya and his nvda stock
If my calculations are correct he's down 2 mil

Close to 2.5m

 

[Racey]

 

[702sandman]

I'm crying being down another $30k today
Can't imagine C-ya and his nvda stock
If my calculations are correct he's down 2 mil

If I remember correctly, his sell point was $90 so I think he’s getting close to his automatic sell off number. I have been buying more Nvidia all the way down. Hopefully I’ll make a nice return when eventually it comes back up.

 

[whiteworks]

I wonder how many of the people who think we are getting fucked by China would rather live in China, work in China or be Chinese?

If being an American, and experiencing the American dream is getting fucked by China and the Chinese people, I'll take a good fucking every day over having to fight for a living in China as a Chinese National.

Here is something to think about, what percentage of the 330M Americans are actually living the American dream with all the bells and whistles vs. the underclass which is just surviving on the fringe and sucking off the tit of this big rad thing we know as America?

I’d wager 90% of the population is just getting by, thinks twice before hitting the “buy it now” button on anything over $500.00 or maybe even less than that amount. My net worth on paper is down 30% today vs. 90 days ago. Does it matter? No not really as it’s not that significant of a net worth to begin with and I have another 10-15 years before it becomes a more important thing to my daily subsistence strategy. I’m sure it will recover and crash a few more times before I’m deciding between ribeyes or cat food for dinner in my old age

My point is I’m out of touch with reality and I think your further down that rabbit hole of the living the American dream than I

 

[DRYHEAT]

Here is something to think about, what percentage of the 330M Americans are actually living the American dream with all the bells and whistles vs. the underclass which is just surviving on the fringe and sucking off the tit of this big rad thing we know as America?

I’d wager 90% of the population is just getting by, thinks twice before hitting the “buy it now” button on anything over $500.00 or maybe even less than that amount. My net worth on paper is down 30% today vs. 90 days ago. Does it matter? No not really as it’s not that significant of a net worth to begin with and I have another 10-15 years before it becomes a more important thing to my daily subsistence strategy. I’m sure it will recover and crash a few more times before I’m deciding between ribeyes or cat food for dinner in my old age

My point is I’m out of touch with reality and I think your further down that rabbit hole of the living the American dream than I

90% is about right according to the big brokerage house statistics. I guess it all depends on your definition of the American dream and what living comfortably in retirement is.

 

[BabyRay]

Every owner of a private company is down today also as his business is now worth less.

The only comfort they have is they don't have to look at the price decline on an exchange.

No, the comfort is in knowing the value will return. Any small business owner who is disheartened by this isn’t cut out for the entrepreneurial life.

 

[CoolCruzin]

Would be smart to cash out now !!!
Smarter people are going to buy as it hit the low point .
I’m more of a let it ride type guy .
Side note - I know very little but all my investments are taking a shit .
Glad I don’t need the money right now

What are you guys doing

 

[DRYHEAT]

Would be smart to cash out now !!!
Smarter people are going to buy as it hit the low point .
I’m more of a let it ride type guy .
Side note - I know very little but all my investments are taking a shit .
Glad I don’t need the money right now

What are you guys doing

I’ve been through these cycles several times and never sold. It has always come back if you’re invested in good decent companies and or funds. Now would be the absolute worst time to sell out in my humble opinion. All you’re doing is making your losses permanent. Just one simple idiots opinion.

 

[Orange Juice]

I’ve been through these cycles several times and never sold. It has always come back if you’re invested in good decent companies and or funds. Now would be the absolute worst time to sell out in my humble opinion. All you’re doing is making your losses permanent. Just one simple idiots opinion.

So your saying Trump can do better

 

[DRYHEAT]

So your saying Trump can do better

Trump‘s doing exactly what I hired him to do and he’s doing a great job.

Wall Street has always been full of liberal elite, manipulating the markets this is no different, Trump is not bending to their will so they’re crashing the markets which intern causes everyone else to panic and sell. They don’t care because they’ll make money going both directions.

Do I like it that my accounts are down? No, but I’m not concerned. The market is going to do with the market does no matter who is president.

 

[~JM~]

Would be smart to cash out now !!!

Maybe around Feb. 19th, but now it would lock in your losses.

What are you guys doing

Sitting tight. Alternating between beating myself up because I didn't follow my instinct to sell on 2/19 & attempting to dig in to educate myself better.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Just peeked at the portfolio.....down 2.85% yesterday.....numbers are kind of a punch in the nose but if you don't sell you haven't lost. Opposite is true on the way back up. Does coulda, woulda, shoulda sound familiar?

Do not panic and sell at the bottom or lows like this...You arent supposed to buy at the top or sell on the bottom.

Those trying to time the market are the ones that really can get hurt at a time like this.

I get it.....part of me says why didn't my guy sell everything a week ago....then buy back the same stocks after the carnage? Because it isn't quite that simple, thats why.

If you are feeling panic or ready to run naked thru the streets maybe now is the time to re-evaluate your strategy. Clarity on what your goals are will help. Be strong and not a weak ass bitch.....lol

I do believe now is the time to swoop in and ADD to your positions if you have cash sitting around however that for sure is a personal decision and I don't have cash sitting around or I would for sure.

Me.....hanging tight and believing in the long game and understanding all this short term pain is necessary to correct the path the USA was on.

It has worked time and time again for me and its boring as fuck for the most part.

Funny thing is most all of you know all of this already but sometimes we all need reminded. Re-evaluate and be clear on what your strategy is.

Alright.....time for some more coffee.

 

[That Guy]

Temporary pain for long term gain.....

 

[DILLIGAF]

I just had a flash back of a situation with a POS brother of mine that I thought of.

He was a gambling degenerate from a very young age. He was the worst gambler at the table as well. When he was winning he was talking shit and pumping his chest and loud. When he was losing he would lean down with his receding forehead on the table and be such a pathetic loser. "whoa,,,,whoa, whoa....is me. Why does this happen to ME" Cause you are a dumbfuck thinking you can time the cards. Wash, rinse, repeat. He eventually lost everything and went to jail for trying to make up his losses by selling cocaine. There is a lot more to the story but I will end it there.

Don't be that pathetic guy when it comes to your investing.....

 

[~JM~]

...or ready to run naked thru the streets....

Wait... What?

That's a bad thing?

 

[DRYHEAT]

Maybe around Feb. 19th, but now it would lock in your losses.

Sitting tight. Alternating between beating myself up because I didn't follow my instinct to sell on 2/19 & attempting to dig in to educate myself better.

Doesn’t do any good to beat yourself up, we’ve all made mistakes. The best thing to do is learn from them. When the markets are in turmoil because of world events, the best thing to do usually is to hang on for the ride.

 

[TPC]

China executes murdering and raping criminals.
USA Democrats put them back on the street.

 

[PaPaG]

I’ve been through these cycles several times and never sold. It has always come back if you’re invested in good decent companies and or funds. Now would be the absolute worst time to sell out in my humble opinion. All you’re doing is making your losses permanent. Just one simple idiots opinion.

Just one simple idiots opinion is 100% RIGHT! (and NOT idiotic at all).... I did a 30 year comparison a year or so ago on all the mini and full corrections we have had and over 90% of the solid companies that took a dive came back to prior numbers or WELL above the previous price. The crappy companies said BYE BYE. If you are younger, or just an average investor in the market, events like this changes lives hopefully for the better if you do it carefully. Do not use emotions, use logic, research, track record, and history to guide your investments.

 

[gqchris]

Im bleeding 5k a day on a very small portfolio and 401k. But if we dont sell, its not a loss. Thats how I look at it now after the last couple months of this roller coaster ride.

Hang in there fellas. We gotta go thru this pain.

 

[530RL]

Here is something to think about, what percentage of the 330M Americans are actually living the American dream with all the bells and whistles vs. the underclass which is just surviving on the fringe and sucking off the tit of this big rad thing we know as America?

I’d wager 90% of the population is just getting by, thinks twice before hitting the “buy it now” button on anything over $500.00 or maybe even less than that amount. My net worth on paper is down 30% today vs. 90 days ago. Does it matter? No not really as it’s not that significant of a net worth to begin with and I have another 10-15 years before it becomes a more important thing to my daily subsistence strategy. I’m sure it will recover and crash a few more times before I’m deciding between ribeyes or cat food for dinner in my old age

My point is I’m out of touch with reality and I think your further down that rabbit hole of the living the American dream than I

I did think about it over the last day or so.

There is no question mathematically that post Smoot-Hawley in 1934 and certainly post WWII, the United States has become the richest country in the world with the highest aggregate wealth, income and standard of living. If someone wants to deny that, the debate is futile. Whatever we have been doing, it has certainly worked over the last 8 decades by objective measure at the aggregate level.

Now, your undeniable point is that despite America being the most successful on aggregate, that wealth has ended up pooling in an ever decreasing number of hands making many, maybe even a majority, feel as you lay out, left behind.

The question that America should be asking is not are we getting fucked by the Chinese with their $4,800 annual average household income while they toil away in unsafe work conditions to sell us goods at a price a mere fraction of what we can make it in America; but what part of our system needs changes so that more individuals can earn a larger share from that colossal US aggregate wealth and income pot. The problem doesn't seem to be on aggregate how the pot is created, the aggregate results speak for themselves, but the methods and systems in which people are valued and compensated from that existing large pot.

What the markets could be indicating is that the most important objective is, let's not fuck up the pot while fighting over it.

 

[Orange Juice]

Tariffs have not hit Main Street yet.

We’ve only seen Tariffs at work on Wall Street.

Should be another 10-15% to the downside, when tariffs hit Main Street.

 

[Ol Man]

The 40% hit in 08-09 was followed by a pretty good run up til now. We retired in 06 and can still buy stuff. This to shall pass. It sucks in the short term, but things will settle.

 

[Orange Juice]

Noticed Crypto is starting to melt down.

 

[whiteworks]

I did think about it over the last day or so.

There is no question mathematically that post Smoot-Hawley in 1934 and certainly post WWII, the United States has become the richest country in the world with the highest aggregate wealth, income and standard of living. If someone wants to deny that, the debate is futile. Whatever we have been doing, it has certainly worked over the last 8 decades by objective measure at the aggregate level.

Now, your undeniable point is that despite America being the most successful on aggregate, that wealth has ended up pooling in an ever decreasing number of hands making many, maybe even a majority, feel as you lay out, left behind.

The question that America should be asking is not are we getting fucked by the Chinese with their $4,800 annual average household income while they toil away in unsafe work conditions to sell us goods at a price a mere fraction of what we can make it in America; but what part of our system needs changes so that more individuals can earn a larger share from that colossal US aggregate wealth and income pot. The problem doesn't seem to be on aggregate how the pot is created, the aggregate results speak for themselves, but the methods and systems in which people are valued and compensated from that existing large pot.

What the markets could be indicating is that the most important objective is, let's not fuck up the pot while fighting over it.

If we disband OSHA and greenlight do away with some human rights bullshit we have in place, we could make all our own cheap shit here and live happily ever after.

 

[shintoooo]

I'm surprised Bitcoin is holding up so well. I think that's going down next week.

Here we go. I have MSTR 5/2 $250 Puts. If BTC keeps dropping they will pay BIGLY.

 

[Orange Juice]

Here we go. I have MSTR 5/2 $250 Puts. If BTC keeps dropping they will pay BIGLY.

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I’ve done a little options trading, and up $15k. I don’t keep contracts longer than I need too, so I left a lot on the table.

Amazing the give away ($$$), if you have a few dollars, and know where to place them. I’m sure the hedge funds are going to destroy any stability this week.

 

[530RL]

If we disband OSHA and greenlight do away with some human rights bullshit we have in place, we could make all our own cheap shit here and live happily ever after.

That’s true, but then the same people who bitch that we don’t manufacture anything here now, would bitch about low wages, the use of child labor in unsafe work conditions and the fact that the Ohio river is tough to boat on because it is on fire.

Some people just can’t be satisfied.

 

[coolchange]

2 plays are close to net zero. My PLTR is still up about 2 1/2 x keeping me in the green still. The resilience of pltr makes me think this is a solid play.

 

[shintoooo]

Futures opened

 

[shintoooo]

Yikes

 

[Orange Juice]

Waiting on Trump to give in?

 

[2Driver]

Monday is shaping up like last Friday.

Singapore Nikkei off 9%, freaking geezus. Just halted, lol thats always a good sign

 

[530RL]

Yikes

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Wonder if the corner ad showing 40 percent off refers to future prices?

 

[Mack]

How bad is the selloff in the morning futures taking a beating on the Dow right now

 

[702sandman]

When does this pain stop ? Lots of people getting crushed right now. C-Ya I believe hit his sell off on Nvidia at 90 so thats 2 Mil gone in a couple months. Time to pick up some bargains but dam this WILL affect us all I’m 100% sure Of that. Just hope the pain is worth the gain.

 

[adam909]

So black Monday tomorrow? Shit will really start droping once firms start getting margin called.

 

[Havasu blue label]

reloaded fuck it just buy in