1 inch d shaped aluminum extrusion

[RiverDave]

I’m trying to find something that I thought would have been relatively common but am having zero luck.. was wondering if any of the inmates know where to source 30-60’ of 1 inch d shaped aluminum extrusion..

If not hollow I’d even entertain solid? Any ideas?

 

[beerrun]

Maybe these guys can help

 

[traquer]

If you need a thousand kilos, here's your man lol: https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...802.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.2f217116SdCKSs

Otherwise I did some Googling and nothing came up, that's weird!

 

[obnoxious001]

Quite a few in China, sent you a couple of leads by text.

 

[monkeyswrench]

@boatpi may have some insight. I think his company deals in a lot of aluminum extrusions.

 

[Travmon]

Been down this road many times , problem with extrusions are the fact that there is only a few extrusion companys that actually produce the product however they hold molds for thousands of companies so its a matter of finding the company that owns the mold. Case in point I just waited almost 7years for a extrusion i wanted for a project and because of how many thousand feet it took to hit the minimum run quota we had to build up enough orders to get the hundred feet I needed.
I would search out architectual metal suppliers as well. PS. I have never seen an extrusion like that available to fabricators .

 

[monkeyswrench]

I did some copper gutters on a turret once...sucked balls. I used 5" copper pipe, and rolled the radius needed, then sliced it in half to make two 5" troughs.

If you only needed some of the D shape, you could form a 1" tube, cut it and weld a flat...but 30-60ft would suck.

 

[Rajobigguy]

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

It's not cheap but they do have it in stock.

 

[sonicss31]

No help here but I know it sucks when you are trying to build something unique and not off the shelf only to be dead in the water because a part or product cannot be sourced by us little guys. Good luck.

 

[paradise]

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

It's not cheap but they do have it in stock.

half round is the key term. Once you use that in google there are a bunch of options.

 

[Rajobigguy]

half round is the key term. Once you use that in google there are a bunch of options.

Yeah , half round is not really the same thing as D-shaped but I thought it might be something that he can use and if actually has to be a D he can add a 1/4 strap to the back to achieve that shape.

 

[Maw]

Fuel injector rail stock?

https://racerxfabrication.com/diy/8an-fuel-rail-extrusion is what we used to use for an oil manifold.

 

[RiverDave]

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

It's not cheap but they do have it in stock.

I was unable to find 1 inch D extrusion on there. Got a link?

 

[RiverDave]

Yeah , half round is not really the same thing as D-shaped but I thought it might be something that he can use and if actually has to be a D he can add a 1/4 strap to the back to achieve that shape.

Not it’s gotta be d shape.. adding a strap is gonna suck. :/. Looks like me may have to pay for a die which is like 2800 bucks..

RD

 

[Rajobigguy]

Not it’s gotta be d shape.. adding a strap is gonna suck. :/. Looks like me may have to pay for a die which is like 2800 bucks..

RD

Sorry, not sure I can be of any help but I'll explore a couple of my sources and see if they can come up with something.

 

[Mandelon]

http://comboaluminum.com/

These guys are in El Cajon, on some street called "Johnson." Maybe you've heard of it? They have lots of standard stuff and will make custom things I believe.

 

[lbhsbz]

What is this extrusion being mounted to? Could it be more cost effective to modify the thing to accept a piece of round tube than it is to source a piece of hollow extrusion? Does it need to be an extrusion? Could it be solid? You could take a piece of 1"x1/2" stock, a router, and a can of WD40 and create your profile in about 15 minutes over 60 feet....if you need light weight or a hollow backside, you could create a piece of channel by running it down a table saw a few times....what is the objective here and what are the requirements?

 

[TomD]

Try metalsupermarket

 

[Marine Industries West]

Not sure if you have tried Anaheim Extrusion/Universal Molding. They used to have shapes listed online, but I didn’t see them…but may be worth a phone call.

Or Maybe you can modify this…..pretty close to 1”….
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256...16fdaa&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=bra2usa

 

[RiverDave]

What is this extrusion being mounted to? Could it be more cost effective to modify the thing to accept a piece of round tube than it is to source a piece of hollow extrusion? Does it need to be an extrusion? Could it be solid? You could take a piece of 1"x1/2" stock, a router, and a can of WD40 and create your profile in about 15 minutes over 60 feet....if you need light weight or a hollow backside, you could create a piece of channel by running it down a table saw a few times....what is the objective here and what are the requirements?

Pontoon boat frame for the upper deck

 

[boatpi]

We do not make that, but in quantities we could I highly doubt they would source that from China, tariff is 100% and going up to 128% soon. That alloy would likely be 6063T4 or T3.

To produce in quantities, it would not likely be a standard shape, so a die would have to be made. The costly part is the finish, we do anodize monthly, it has to be in large amounts to make any sense. Our shapes we design, and purchase millions of pounds each year, business is very 'brisk". USA extruders would likely make this IF the yhad the shape in an existing die. You just need to find out who, if any one would have this shape. minium would be 2,000 pounds....

 

[boatpi]

Btw; as a sidenote here, a lot of people on the board is Aluminum for

projects ,

just to give everyone an idea of what’s being done with Aluminum. Now it’s called wood sublimation . These are two of a couple of the colors that we produce it even feels like woodgrain. The first Powder Coat, the Aluminum is sort of a mustard color that gives it The background of the base color.

after the powder coating is wrapped with a wood, sublimation film, that is produced in Italy. And they trim it a little bit and put it inside of a plastic bag, vacuum it , and put it back in the oven for about 30 minutes and 165° and it comes out like this.

Pretty amazing stuff.

 

[boatpi]

I will toss this out.

I know Rex and others have sold boat rub rail and other extrusions for years. I would think may have purchased through major distributors and anodized after the fact. VERY expensive, and ANY anodizing in the USA is.

This is our business not just patio and shade structure material. Boat rub rail business is not for me, but..

If someone has a desire to get into this business, seriously and supply OEM boat builders and the aftermarket, we may be able to assist. This business is not for the faint of heart. We can produce most anything, and powder coat it, anodize, or most any finish and color match. Generally minimum is 2,000 pounds per shape.

So if someone is up for this, we can discuss, DM me. I am always very busy, so be genuine and have ca$h to do this, as it can be profitable as we have a very minor mark up on the distribution side of the aluminum extrusion business.

And if anyone now or recently imports extrusions from China, we have never, you will be out of business in 3 months as you may know due to an increase of tariff of 128%.

 

[Bails]

Btw; as a sidenote here, a lot of people on the board is Aluminum for View attachment 1346642 projects , View attachment 1346641 just to give everyone an idea of what’s being done with Aluminum. Now it’s called wood sublimation . These are two of a couple of the colors that we produce it even feels like woodgrain. The first Powder Coat, the Aluminum is sort of a mustard color that gives it The background of the base color.

after the powder coating is wrapped with a wood, sublimation film, that is produced in Italy. And they trim it a little bit and put it inside of a plastic bag, vacuum it , and put it back in the oven for about 30 minutes and 165° and it comes out like this.

Pretty amazing stuff.

I am thinking about adding an accent wall to the exterior of my house. I was going to use ipe wood. How does this product compare in price? does it have finish trim pieces?

 

[boatpi]

We will be introducing wall cladding by this summer, that is the interlocking shape for an outdoor wall.

 

[SoCalDave]

I am thinking about adding an accent wall to the exterior of my house. I was going to use ipe wood. How does this product compare in price? does it have finish trim pieces?

Following..

 

[RiverDave]

Well I guess I'll be ordering a die then and having it made..

RD

 

[gottaminute?]

Well I guess I'll be ordering a die then and having it made..

RD

crazy detour but could a set of progressive "dies" be built to push or pull or "
"drive" thru to flatten/reshape one side of round alum tube. thinking a cable pulley shaped wheel fit on a roller bearing or two and a driver wheel with teeth to compress and push it thru. maybe in two steps if needed. may also work with thinner stainless tube
.edit.... may also be able to offset the drive and concave pullies to induce the curve for spiraling installation.

 

[boatpi]

This has to be made from a soft aluminum alloy through extrusion, AKA pushed through a die from billet.. You can bend stainless, not this until after extrusion and coating. Many coatings flex quite a bit.

RD's issue is, how long does he want each individual piece, that is the limitations. Extrusions come out like sausage, but powder coat or anodization tanks production lines in USA are going to be governed by the length of the oven. And most are no longer than 22'.

 

[JDKRXW]

Well I guess I'll be ordering a die then and having it made..

RD

For 60 ft ?

 

[boatpi]

Vertical powder line. This is the most sophisticated line there is for vertical it’s only six months old.

There are horizontal ovens, but we are the only one in North America that is producing a beam at 33 feet long. You can have it extruded and take it to a custom place that would powder coated longer than 20 or 30 feet, the answers yes if they have a longer oven but of course the price goes up from there if you extrude at location A and take it for powder to location B. You lose your advantage of automation and efficiency and pricing.

 

[RiverDave]

For 60 ft ?

Honestly I don’t even need that much.. more like 30’

 

[Bigbore500r]

Btw; as a sidenote here, a lot of people on the board is Aluminum for View attachment 1346642 projects , View attachment 1346641 just to give everyone an idea of what’s being done with Aluminum. Now it’s called wood sublimation . These are two of a couple of the colors that we produce it even feels like woodgrain. The first Powder Coat, the Aluminum is sort of a mustard color that gives it The background of the base color.

after the powder coating is wrapped with a wood, sublimation film, that is produced in Italy. And they trim it a little bit and put it inside of a plastic bag, vacuum it , and put it back in the oven for about 30 minutes and 165° and it comes out like this.

Pretty amazing stuff.

Is this “longboard” product by chance?

 

[boatpi]

BB500r, we own ALL of our dies, and no one uses our material from the same mill, we design and hold rights to all material. We have noted as time goes on, others have copied our design and finishes. It appears we have taken a significant market share in the Southwest region. Maybe our new motto should be, The Innovator, not the imitator". We work on this nearly 7 days a week, business is exceptional. We are blessed, hard work and honesty are starting to pay off.

 

[Orange Juice]

Honestly I don’t even need that much.. more like 30’

I would look at salvage. eBay, bulk auctions, etc…

Most stuff like that is being replaced with plastics, which are getting better all the time.

 

[JFMFG]

BB500r, we own ALL of our dies, and no one uses our material from the same mill, we design and hold rights to all material. We have noted as time goes on, others have copied our design and finishes. It appears we have taken a significant market share in the Southwest region. Maybe our new motto should be, The Innovator, not the imitator". We work on this nearly 7 days a week, business is exceptional. We are blessed, hard work and honesty are starting to pay off.

What’s the name of your company?

 

[RiverDave]

BB500r, we own ALL of our dies, and no one uses our material from the same mill, we design and hold rights to all material. We have noted as time goes on, others have copied our design and finishes. It appears we have taken a significant market share in the Southwest region. Maybe our new motto should be, The Innovator, not the imitator". We work on this nearly 7 days a week, business is exceptional. We are blessed, hard work and honesty are starting to pay off.

Want to make a d shaped die for me for all the exposure lol? lol

 

[HNL2LHC]

Is this “longboard” product by chance?

That is one supplier and another is knot wood. One of the challenges of the products is the longevity of the finishes. Maybe not a concern for most but it is for our products. We opted out of the fake wood on aluminum look. Hawaii’s market is just a little too harsh for the finish at the time about 10 years ago…

 

[coolchange]

Does it have to be extruded? Hell I can make that with a table saw and a router in solid.

 

[boatpi]

Knottwood is the major supplier in the USA. Issue is price. $$$

How we have attained a market share is high quality, without all the corporate overhead, and they along with StructurX louver company have HUGE$$ facilities and corporate overhead. The best film as we see it is from Italy, that is what we spec. First the aluminum shape is powder coated, usually a shade of mustard, this sets the tone. Then the wrap is applied, and the long extrusions are individually placed into a long plastic tube, then vacuumed and sealed. Back in the oven and removed. The excess wrap is removed and you have a final product. Our product has a 10 year warranty. The indusrry published a detail suggesting if the material is washed 2 or 3 ties a year, to remove mainly urban fallout, it can last 20 years. Just like car paint, it can last many years with care. Our contractors tell us we are 30+% below Knottwood. Business is steadily increasing in this design.

 

[Bigbore500r]

BB500r, we own ALL of our dies, and no one uses our material from the same mill, we design and hold rights to all material. We have noted as time goes on, others have copied our design and finishes. It appears we have taken a significant market share in the Southwest region. Maybe our new motto should be, The Innovator, not the imitator". We work on this nearly 7 days a week, business is exceptional. We are blessed, hard work and honesty are starting to pay off.

Longboard products seem like a whole diffferfent market that what you are doing, at least what I have dealt with. More used for cladding and panel systems to imitate wood in commercial interior applications where using wood indoors is not an option

 

[boatpi]

FYI, we were at the Hawaii suppliers tradeshow last week in Honolulu. Great show that’s some good people. We have a project coming up later this summer that could work out quite well for the islands.

Keep in mind that some suppliers that do low volume or high specialized products. The cost per square foot is absolutely insane more often than not. They buy it from a distributor somewhere in North America and then rebrand it themselves or sell themselves and everybody steps on the pricing.

 

[RiverDave]

Does it have to be extruded? Hell I can make that with a table saw and a router in solid.

I have to shape into the front of a pontoon boat..

 

[boatpi]

RD, we would need a drawing of the shape of technical drawing, and even more than that. How many pounds you would want to produce and know what it was per pound the drying may have that and then the finish you want on it. Of course, the length is very important too. If it is anodizing we will kick butt on price we will use our overseas supplier. Figure probably have a three month lead time, and the finish will be fabulous but you save a tremendous amount in cost.

If you go to Home Depot or Lowe’s and look at the carpet strips in the packages and are anodized, or powder coated, some of those products we produce for OEM suppliers in North America, and a few things like that that’s our original Aluminum business it’s a considerable amount every year.

Rd, i’ll shoot you my email.

 

[boatpi]

Just to clarify, McMaster, car, which is a great large company, the metal guy in San Diego, and a few other distributors in Los Angeles that have been around for decades we sell to many of them.

They are all distributors that buy from an importer/extruder that has direct ties to manufacturers throughout the world. When we do the business with these companies, they give us the drawings we find the right mill that we manufactured come to a pricing agreement. The Dies made ,then sample finishes are produced after that for approval and then we go into production. we have an important license.

If we need to go out of the country and we bring it out ourselves it goes then direct to the company that ordered it without the distributor in between.
I don’t know enough about the boating business industrywide who supplies shapes like this, but I think we all realize there’s a number of different shapes that are done and it’s a considerable amount the question would be what are the current manufactures using and were they paying for the material, but it could be a side business for someone if you had to place the store this stuff and the funding

One thing for sure you would buy it right from us and mark it up accordingly.

As an fyi; We don’t need to solicit business we have plenty. We’re just trying to help out our friends in the boating community. If we can somewhere in between help out on this type of extruded material great. and the source won’t be from China..

 

[RiverDave]

RD, we would need a drawing of the shape of technical drawing, and even more than that. How many pounds you would want to produce and know what it was per pound the drying may have that and then the finish you want on it. Of course, the length is very important too. If it is anodizing we will kick butt on price we will use our overseas supplier. Figure probably have a three month lead time, and the finish will be fabulous but you save a tremendous amount in cost.

If you go to Home Depot or Lowe’s and look at the carpet strips in the packages and are anodized, or powder coated, some of those products we produce for OEM suppliers in North America, and a few things like that that’s our original Aluminum business it’s a considerable amount every year.

Rd, i’ll shoot you my email.

I was joking.. I can’t wait months for this I will have it done in America.

Die should be 2500-3000 and 30’ is minimal. At this point though I may advertise d shape for sale just on rdp because virtually nobody has this shit stateside.

RD

 

[boatpi]

RD, try Umex in Downey.

 

[RiverDave]

RD, try Umex in Downey.

I’ll call them tomorrow!

 

[lbhsbz]

I was joking.. I can’t wait months for this I will have it done in America.

For should be 2500-3000 and 30’ is minimal. At this point though I may advertise d shape for sale just on rdp because virtually nobody has this shit stateside.

RD

I get stuff from China from print to my doorstep in 20 days. Stuff in the US takes months, if not years, which is why I've mostly given up on trying to support US vendors...they're assholes and they suck, at least the ones that I've come across.

 

[Melloyellovector]

If only 30ft why not just cut round tube and weld plate, sand the weld, and polish.
less then making a die