WTF PARKER

[guest hs]

Anyone know who or what the deal is with the guy on the side of the road in that cut out river side of the highway Arizona side. There is a camper and a big hole dug up with what appeared to be a metal palm tree of some sort in the middle of it. I think it was just before the gas station that has the rooster in front of it????

 

[outboardrick]

Saw that this weekend, just below where they're taking the top off the mountain for home lots. Thought he may be squatting trying to get a lot :skull

 

[River Runnin]

You talk'n about this little cove in the wall?

Even a mail box and number!

 

[outboardrick]

:thumbsup

 

[riverroyal]

saw it as well, why do I pay for anything anymore? May as well just pull over and call it home

 

[SoCalDave]

Looks like he has a pretty good little settlement there.

 

[River Runnin]

I'm guessing it's someone on the construction crew that's work'n that hill or an owner!

 

[RiverDave]

I'm guessing it's someone on the construction crew that's work'n that hill or an owner!

That's what Inwas thinking originally, but it seems bizarre that they would do it like that??

 

[Roaddawg]

Pretty sure there was a corvette parked there on Saturday afternoon

 

[riverroyal]

just a bit of road noise and the chance you get killed by a drunk Canadian, other than that its not bad.:rolleyes

 

[was thatguy]

Sanctuary City???:eek

 

[DogNamedChevy]

Pretty sure there was a corvette parked there on Saturday afternoon

This guy works at Winnetou Storage just up the road from his little cut out. I don't know what the deal is, but he's been moving some of his crap to that spot

 

[pkrrvr619]

There's gotta be more to this story. I would guess he is trying to exploit some loophole....

 

[riverroyal]

last of the gold mining land claimer....

 

[River Runnin]

Pretty sure there was a corvette parked there on Saturday afternoon

I seen that also!...There's at least a couple there.

That's what Inwas thinking originally, but it seems bizarre that they would do it like that??

And there's that Mail Box And Number!

 

[RiverDave]

Pretty sure there was a corvette parked there on Saturday afternoon

Blue corvette just like the one that caught on fire in the other thread.. Saw it a little while ago when I was driving back from Parker.

 

[2Driver]

Should be nice when it hits 115+.
LOL If it makes sense then it's not Parker. The town is a retard magnet for the curious

 

[BoatCop]

The Vette that was there over the weekend was NOT the one in the crash down river last night.

My guess is that the small parcel was put up for sale/auction due to unpaid taxes. Or possibly was part of the plot of the bigger development going in, and a title search discovered an owner, of which the guy there now, was an heir to.

Don't know what he's doing with it. I'll try and get some answers.

 

[Chili Palmer]

He probably got caught with a female spring breaker and his old lady caught him and threw his ass and all his crap out. Now he's got his swingin' bachelor pad - how can the chicks resist that?

 

[RiverDave]

The Vette that was there over the weekend was NOT the one in the crash down river last night.

My guess is that the small parcel was put up for sale/auction due to unpaid taxes. Or possibly was part of the plot of the bigger development going in, and a title search discovered an owner, of which the guy there now, was an heir to.

Don't know what he's doing with it. I'll try and get some answers.

THX Boat Cop

 

[500bbc]

The Vette that was there over the weekend was NOT the one in the crash down river last night.

My guess is that the small parcel was put up for sale/auction due to unpaid taxes. Or possibly was part of the plot of the bigger development going in, and a title search discovered an owner, of which the guy there now, was an heir to.

Don't know what he's doing with it. I'll try and get some answers.

Maybe squeezing the developer if he has title the small parcel.

 

[BajaT]

Was advised by a neighbor who talked to him the other day that he recently bought the land, intends on building a home up top eventually! He bought it from Bush, who owns land a mile up below the yellow billboard sign on the right before the hill to Havasu Springs.

 

[2Driver]

Weird, but you have to admit he's keeping it pretty tidy.

On a different note what they did to the Mountain should be cause for hanging. :finger:finger:finger:finger:finger:finger

 

[grumpy88]

Weird, but you have to admit he's keeping it pretty tidy.

On a different note what they did to the Mountain should be cause for hanging. :finger:finger:finger:finger:finger:finger

Funny you say that . The guy setting up home on the side of the road gets plenty of attention but tearing down a mountain and dumping a bunch of it in the river is not talked about . Parker maybe closed but it obviously was for sale !

 

[2Driver]

Fn A

LOL they will get their day in court. Those lots will be so expensive by the time they finish no one will buy one. Besides it looks like a mine tailing

Highly limited river access, No cabanas, no private slips. Just a courtesy dock and ramp that will be high and dry 80% of the time. I bet Break even is $450k for a dirt lot. [emoji849]

 

[Rondog4405]

Saw that too .. Wondering wtf is that shit. Weird painted mushroom deal. To each his own I guess..

 

[Outdrive1]

I've been wondering too.

 

[BoatCop]

For everybody bitching about the development and shaving down the mountain.......

Do you think where you live, or stay or party just popped up out of the earth? Every park, bar, subdivision, community, etc. was bulldozed out of the mountains and backfilled into the valleys along the river. The owner of that property (notice I said the OWNER) is developing HIS property according to submitted plans and permits. So what if he's putting in docks, just like every other waterfront property on the River.

So he's bulldozing a mountain. Big fucking deal. It's his mountain. Just because you weren't around to see them bulldoze YOUR favorite spot doesn't make this guy doing it now, to his property, doesn't any more or less appalling.

 

[milkmoney]

For everybody bitching about the development and shaving down the mountain.......

Do you think where you live, or stay or party just popped up out of the earth? Every park, bar, subdivision, community, etc. was bulldozed out of the mountains and backfilled into the valleys along the river. The owner of that property (notice I said the OWNER) is developing HIS property according to submitted plans and permits. So what if he's putting in docks, just like every other waterfront property on the River.

So he's bulldozing a mountain. Big fucking deal. It's his mountain. Just because you weren't around to see them bulldoze YOUR favorite spot doesn't make this guy doing it now, to his property, doesn't any more or less appalling.

I think you need a beer [emoji481][emoji481]. Ok there is two [emoji41][emoji202]

 

[BajaT]

For everybody bitching about the development and shaving down the mountain.......

Do you think where you live, or stay or party just popped up out of the earth? Every park, bar, subdivision, community, etc. was bulldozed out of the mountains and backfilled into the valleys along the river. The owner of that property (notice I said the OWNER) is developing HIS property according to submitted plans and permits. So what if he's putting in docks, just like every other waterfront property on the River.

So he's bulldozing a mountain. Big fucking deal. It's his mountain. Just because you weren't around to see them bulldoze YOUR favorite spot doesn't make this guy doing it now, to his property, doesn't any more or less appalling.

I have to agree, but, I know HOAs that have been denied adding a slip or moving docks further out by a foot or so by Bureau of Reclamation, meanwhile, this guy has pushed boulders into the river where this is now an "island". Know someone who has lost lower unit due to depth being altered in that area. The other bummer is, will he ever complete the project? After paying to widen 95, installing a sewer treatment plant, cost to get power (wont be cheap) lots wont sell unless he is looking for a loss for tax write off IMO. So yes, it does suck. Already plenty of unfinished projects up river that are now eye sores.

 

[Timmmmmy]

every morning I would see that guy with a rake and shovel digging away. If you look up a little higher he has a stone built up with a cross on it.

 

[2Driver]

There's a way to do it right and then there's the, rape the land way.

If you think taking a mountain with home sites already set in it and turning into a pile of pink mine tailings looks right, then you have been drinking Brooke water too long.

 

[rivrrts429]

every morning I would see that guy with a rake and shovel digging away. If you look up a little higher he has a stone built up with a cross on it.

He had the rake going in the morning when I passed by on my way to the boat show and still had it going on my way back. That rake should be worn to a nub by Friday lol

 

[Timmmmmy]

He had the rake going in the morning when I passed by on my way to the boat show and still had it going on my way back. That rake should be worn to a nub by Friday lol

He's been working at it for the past month

 

[rivrrts429]

He's been working at it for the past month

I could retire on the commission if I was his rake salesman [emoji2]

That little cutout he's carved away is going to be brutal in the next few weeks when the heat begins to kick on. Zero opportunity for any breeze and blasted by the sun for the first 75% of the day. No idea what he's got going on but hope he survives it.

 

[teded]

The whole thing looks awful. I bet that sand, rock bar on the east side gets worse also.

 

[BoatCop]

I have to agree, but, I know HOAs that have been denied adding a slip or moving docks further out by a foot or so by Bureau of Reclamation, meanwhile, this guy has pushed boulders into the river where this is now an "island". Know someone who has lost lower unit due to depth being altered in that area. The other bummer is, will he ever complete the project? After paying to widen 95, installing a sewer treatment plant, cost to get power (wont be cheap) lots wont sell unless he is looking for a loss for tax write off IMO. So yes, it does suck. Already plenty of unfinished projects up river that are now eye sores.

Sewer won't be that much of an issue. It'll all be gravity, and Buckskin Sanitary already has it in their plans. By the time it's ready for habitation, the sewer will be in. If someone lost an outdrive in barefoot alley, it wasn't due to this project, unless he was within 10 feet of the shoreline right above the sandbar. That shallow sand bar has only been there for at least 50 years or so.

I remember people saying the Keys was a folly, and NO ONE would ever buy a home that was on top of a dairy farm. Especially with septic installed right at the groundwater level. Then there was Miraleste Shores. The Shores used to be just another Lakeside-like tweeker trailer park. NO ONE would pay more than $5,000 for a lot in there. These places were someone's vision. And look at them now. Two of THE most desirable locations on the River.

And then Bob McCulloch saw this bridge for sale.......

 

[JB in so cal]

BC... Invester in hiding? :rolleyes

I somewhat agree. But the various govt entities that have conniption fits of varying levels about far less that seem silent is odd... Just sayin.:rolleyes

Sewer won't be that much of an issue. It'll all be gravity, and Buckskin Sanitary already has it in their plans. By the time it's ready for habitation, the sewer will be in. If someone lost an outdrive in barefoot alley, it wasn't due to this project, unless he was within 10 feet of the shoreline right above the sandbar. That shallow sand bar has only been there for at least 50 years or so.

I remember people saying the Keys was a folly, and NO ONE would ever buy a home that was on top of a dairy farm. Especially with septic installed right at the groundwater level. Then there was Miraleste Shores. The Shores used to be just another Lakeside-like tweeker trailer park. NO ONE would pay more than $5,000 for a lot in there. These places were someone's vision. And look at them now. Two of THE most desirable locations on the River.

And then Bob McCulloch saw this bridge for sale.......

 

[BajaT]

Per Buckskin Sanitary, he is not tying in, he is on his own way up there unless that has changed from a year ago. Also, the damaged lower unit was from an upriver property owner of 30+ years that was able to maneuver north of the sand bar along the shoreline, which now is questionable. Don't know if you have been up there recently, but significant dirt has been moved to build up from the shoreline. There is another section north of this that same activity is occurring. North of this is where the huge rock (mini island) is sticking out of the water as of a couple weeks ago. When there is still available lots in Miraleste Shores for under 200K as well as lots in Rio Lindo Shores, how is he going to sell these? Don't see the market, and vision a bulldozed mountain for years to come.

 

[Rivrat]

Sewer won't be that much of an issue. It'll all be gravity, and Buckskin Sanitary already has it in their plans. By the time it's ready for habitation, the sewer will be in. If someone lost an outdrive in barefoot alley, it wasn't due to this project, unless he was within 10 feet of the shoreline right above the sandbar. That shallow sand bar has only been there for at least 50 years or so.

I remember people saying the Keys was a folly, and NO ONE would ever buy a home that was on top of a dairy farm. Especially with septic installed right at the groundwater level. Then there was Miraleste Shores. The Shores used to be just another Lakeside-like tweeker trailer park. NO ONE would pay more than $5,000 for a lot in there. These places were someone's vision. And look at them now. Two of THE most desirable locations on the River.

And then Bob McCulloch saw this bridge for sale.......

You are claiming this site is not impeding on the existing waterway?

 

[mbrown2]

Was advised by a neighbor who talked to him the other day that he recently bought the land, intends on building a home up top eventually! He bought it from Bush, who owns land a mile up below the yellow billboard sign on the right before the hill to Havasu Springs.

You heard the same thing as me...

 

[Bleakish Times]

Does anyone have pictures/map(s) showing where this is on the river? I stay during the spring/summer at Winnetou Shores and have not been up there yet this year...

 

[BoatCop]

Does anyone have pictures/map(s) showing where this is on the river? I stay during the spring/summer at Winnetou Shores and have not been up there yet this year...

First picture shows the development area, in relation to Parker Dam. Second one show the area in more detail. Keep in mind that Google Earth pictures are out-dated and taken in 2015.

 

[BoatCop]

Now can anyone explain to me how shoreline work in this area affects navigation or water depth/obstructions in the main traveled channel of the River?

And no. I do not have any interest or investment in the project, except in how it will expand the tax base in the County, where only around 5% of land is in private hands and taxable.

 

[2Driver]

Here are some data points on the area. I was in contact with several officials from La Paz, Buckskin and Army Corp and here are some take always the last time I gathered info.

1. The sewer will not be up there until mid 2020. According to Buckskin Sewer district this site will have to bring in a portable sewer system that is contained and filtered in large trailers, then pumped back into the river. That will be nice when it fails and will extremely expensive.

2. They will not have docks and cabanas but one small courtesy dock and ramp. LOL which is located in about 3' of water or 0' at low water.

3. Army Corp of Engineers told me the builder plans on requesting a permit to dredge the river bottom by the ramp. A.C.E. indicated it would take 3 major environmental impact studies costing significant money before they even got an answer and they would almost certainly be turned down.

4. Nothing can go in the river starting at high water mark. Above high water mark its La Paz county and they simply don't GAS what happens there as far as I am concerned.

5. According to La Paz County, ADOT will be making them foot the bill for highway 95 widening before any building permits would take place.

6. They have a grading permit and that is it with an unapproved lot plan for about 60 small lots where many are only big enough for a double wide.

Look, at the end of the day a town looks the way it does because of fundamental guidelines and a master plan. Homes could have been laid in there and still kept the mountain intact. But its easier for the town to say, who gives a shit we are getting tax revenue do what you want. So now we have what was a scenic part of the river that looks like someone set off an M80 in Oprah's ass.


Yeah fuck, this wasn't worth preserving.

 

[RiverDave]

I have to agree, but, I know HOAs that have been denied adding a slip or moving docks further out by a foot or so by Bureau of Reclamation, meanwhile, this guy has pushed boulders into the river where this is now an "island". Know someone who has lost lower unit due to depth being altered in that area. The other bummer is, will he ever complete the project? After paying to widen 95, installing a sewer treatment plant, cost to get power (wont be cheap) lots wont sell unless he is looking for a loss for tax write off IMO. So yes, it does suck. Already plenty of unfinished projects up river that are now eye sores.

You're joking.. You have to be? tax write off?

 

[RiverDave]

Now can anyone explain to me how shoreline work in this area affects navigation or water depth/obstructions in the main traveled channel of the River?

And no. I do not have any interest or investment in the project, except in how it will expand the tax base in the County, where only around 5% of land is in private hands and taxable.

The whole lower unit thing is bullshit.. If someone is claiming that they are looking for something to blame other than themselves.

I get why people are mad about the scenery, but just like last year with this same topic.. I'm a believer it's his land, it's his right.

 

[RiverDave]

2Driver, #6 is incorrect. I'm going off memory here but my buddy originally owned this development. He had it planned for I think 60 decent sized lots.. He sold it to the new guy and is "the bank." I think he told me a year or so ago that the new guy changed the plans and now it's a 100+ lots?

 

[mbrown2]

Might be his land but it looks like shit and the approval process has been mismanaged.......I don't think they should have given the grading permit unless, the build plan complimented the land, there was a bond put up that he could finish the project, there would be no debris in the river, and no damage from the grading/blasting. Our cabana area has new concrete cracks in it since Grading/blasting and we are bringing forth complaints to the builder.

This will go like many projects where those empty lots are graded north of Bill Williams, and where there are several empty parcels of graded land up river...

Planning and building that compliments the land is more strategic brings more value for generations....tearing it down, leveling it and building a mobile home next to a taj mahal, next to a gas station is just what Parker and Havasu City do best and they grow and look like shit because of it...

 

[Ouderkirk]

:lmao

He probably got caught with a female spring breaker and his old lady caught him and threw his ass and all his crap out. Now he's got his swingin' bachelor pad - how can the chicks resist that?

It sure does present as a newly formed bachelor pad. He's got all his toys and the flop house too.