Why is good help hard to find

[Dirtbag]

I have a revolving door at my business right now of college girls who fail to show up to work on time or always come up sick. I am so damn tired of it.

I should be on the road to havasu right now but the girl working tonight called in to quit. She was also working tomorrow so now im stuck here til 9 tonight and working 8-4 tomorrow cause of course none of my other girls can cover.

This is such an easy job. Greet customers sit behind a desk watch sports on tv do some billing charge some people when they come in greet customers as they leave and a little bit of vacuuming and cleaning up.

I had to run to the bank get a cashiers check for my dad so he could pick up the Polaris General tomorrow from az west leaving the building unattended for like 30 minutes. Im so pissed right now. Gonna lose an entire day on the lake or with the new general and my son.

Anyone know anyone in the north oc area with dependable college or even hs kids that want a pretty wasy job?

Fml

 

[Joe mama]

Whats your place of business and location?

 

[Kailuaboy89]

Sorry to hear that DB.....wish I lived closer, my 20 year old College girl is looking for an extra job. bummer we are in San Diego. hope you find some reliable help. :grumble: damn kids have no clue these days.

 

[Cole Trickle]

Yep....I have had some very shitty 17-22 year old girls over the past couple years in a relaxed comfortable fair paying entry level office job. Not a single one has lasted over 10 months before they quit. They all still live at home and. It a one of them are hungry with mom and dad handling all the bills.

Sad actually...we haven't looked for a replacement in over a year after the last girl quit after 6 weeks so she couldn't concentrate on taking 6 units at occ.

 

[Dirtbag]

Whats your place of business and location?

Its just off the 91 fwy between 55 and 57 fws its a baseball training facility

 

[charlyox]

That sux.

 

[rvrrun]

You're asking girls to watch sports on TV, I'm amazed they made it as long as they did.






(comedic disclaimer, my wife is a sports junky, but I assume other women hate sports)

 

[Havasteve]

I have a revolving door at my business right now of college girls who fail to show up to work on time or always come up sick. I am so damn tired of it.

I should be on the road to havasu right now but the girl working tonight called in to quit. She was also working tomorrow so now im stuck here til 9 tonight and working 8-4 tomorrow cause of course none of my other girls can cover.

This is such an easy job. Greet customers sit behind a desk watch sports on tv do some billing charge some people when they come in greet customers as they leave and a little bit of vacuuming and cleaning up.

I had to run to the bank get a cashiers check for my dad so he could pick up the Polaris General tomorrow from az west leaving the building unattended for like 30 minutes. Im so pissed right now. Gonna lose an entire day on the lake or with the new general and my son.

Anyone know anyone in the north oc area with dependable college or even hs kids that want a pretty wasy job?

Fml

I recommend you stop hiring college girls. After all their priority is college and they're basically still children. Maybe hire someone mature who has the time to do the job. Someone who NEEDS a job.

You're just hiring the wrong people. Or not paying enough for the talent you want.

Just my opinion.

 

[Dirtbag]

I recommend you stop hiring college girls. After all their priority is college and they're basically still children. Maybe hire someone mature who has the time to do the job. Someone who NEEDS a job.

You're just hiring the wrong people. Or not paying enough for the talent you want.

Just my opinion.

Normally i would agree with you. However i have set up interviews over the past 5 years with 100s of people and id wager half didnt show up. Its not a high paying job. Its a starter job. But with any job isnt the most important thing to show up and be on time? Or do i have to pay more for that? These are the times we are in and its a damn shame. We have only ourselves to blame as parents.

 

[riverroyal]

I suggest hiring strippers for a day job. Dad's will bring their future stars there for sure

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Normally i would agree with you. However i have set up interviews over the past 5 years with 100s of people and id wager half didnt show up. Its not a high paying job. Its a starter job. But with any job isnt the most important thing to show up and be on time? Or do i have to pay more for that? These are the times we are in and its a damn shame. We have only ourselves to blame as parents.

You have to hire someone that actually needs a job, not someone still hanging from their parental teat. You may indeed have to pay a bit more to get a quality candidate.

 

[Dirtbag]

The funny thing is there is a hidden strip joint around the corner...im surprised all the dads havent found it yet....however all the moms drop their kids off and all walk down the street now that i think about it....maybe i need to follow them

 

[Bobby V]

The funny thing is there is a hidden strip joint around the corner...im surprised all the dads havent found it yet....however all the moms drop their kids off and all walk down the street now that i think about it....maybe i need to follow them

Where is this strip joint. Its not the one off the 91 freeway. I'm close by. How many kids will be coming in tomorrow. Shut it down for the day and go to the river.

 

[Shortdeck]

Well... if I were a good looking chick, I would just strap a mattress to my back and...

Well you know the rest. [emoji1591]

 

[Daytona47]

You have to hire someone that actually needs a job, not someone still hanging from their parental teat. You may indeed have to pay a bit more to get a quality candidate.

My best employees are the ones that have a family to take care of. The single guys still hanging out at moms house are usually the clock watchers/ no weekend work guys.

 

[Dirtbag]

Where is this strip joint. Its not the one off the 91 freeway. I'm close by. How many kids will be coming in tomorrow. Shut it down for the day and go to the river.

Its off la jolla or miraloma and kraemer

 

[d4l]

Its like over here, people in general are lazy, spoiled and stupid. I work for a bigger company, but my truck have turned into somewhat a comapany within the company and I get to take decissions and find ppl on my own. Within the last 2 years I'v been thru 6 drivers, with that said I do most of it by myself so these are ppl who have "worked" on days when Im not around. 1 was a pig, car looked like a dump after each time and he didnt listen. 1 could never ever be on time, shops hade to wait forever for spareparts, if they got them at all as he keept losing stuff every other day, then turned out he keept taking long breaks sleeping here and there! Another crashed the truck second day at work on my vacation, right into a slow moving trailer in a uphill 3 lane highway. Due to sitting with her phone. We lost a truck, she lost her license(not her life fortunately). This while on summerbreak from her studies to become.... wait for it... a driving teacher...


PS: I'll work for ya!

 

[Carlson-jet]

2 years ago here in Chicagoland, jobs were hard to come by. Now it is an employees Paradise. Places are willing to pay big to keep good employees who are committed. I just started a job 8 months ago and have received 25% in raises. I didn't start cheap. They kept calling me because they knew what I was capable of. I didn't want to drive 30 minutes each way knowing I could get the same work 15 minutes away so they payed. The market is flooded with good jobs imo right now and the employers are going to have to step it up. Just a thought. Good luck on the search.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

You get what you pay for. Up the wage a little bit and maybe you will find someone that will work.

 

[Dirtbag]

Upping the wage is nonsense. What does that teach anyone. Why should i have to pay someone more just to show up to work on time or show up at all! Is that what this country is coming to? Makes no damn sense

 

[Bobby V]

Upping the wage is nonsense. What does that teach anyone. Why should i have to pay someone more just to show up to work on time or show up at all! Is that what this country is coming to? Makes no damn sense

X2 We cant keep a receptionist at our company very long before they start not showing up.And we pay pretty good wages with benefits.

 

[jetboatperformance]

Funny you should bring this up, were all family with the exception of one very good young student part time worker , of late however because weve been really busy We have experimented with "others" with much the same results as the OP ... EG caught texting , not following directions, poor work habits and worse "oh by the way I have to leave early today" or sorry Im late (fill in the blank) A lot depends on the upbringing and home environment role models etc

 

[ElAzul]

Finding someone with "give a shit" is not easy

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Upping the wage is nonsense. What does that teach anyone. Why should i have to pay someone more just to show up to work on time or show up at all! Is that what this country is coming to? Makes no damn sense

The question is what is it worth to you to have a reliable person for the job and not have this turnover and BS.

I'm assuming it is minimum wage. If you are hiring high school girls in a nicer area like that, they can go get a job in the mall talking to their friends all day and do less work for the same wage and have less demands put on them.

At minimum wage you are competing with other jobs that require less focus and responsibility... so why do more for the same money?

Now I understand these employees are not "doing" much, but you are required to be there on time, stay for a certain amount of hours, etc. because this person is part of your front of the house business. It is far more critical to you to have this person there than it is to have an extra person on the floor in a store at the mall where they can show up late and leave early.

 

[Carlson-jet]

The question is what is it worth to you to have a reliable person for the job and not have this turnover and BS.

I'm assuming it is minimum wage. If you are hiring high school girls in a nicer area like that, they can go get a job in the mall talking to their friends all day and do less work for the same wage and have less demands put on them.

At minimum wage you are competing with other jobs that require less focus and responsibility... so why do more for the same money?

Now I understand these employees are not "doing" much, but you are required to be there on time, stay for a certain amount of hours, etc. because this person is part of your front of the house business. It is far more critical to you to have this person there than it is to have an extra person on the floor in a store at the mall where they can show up late and leave early.

Amicable explanation.

Having been a Contractor out west and dealing with the short comings of employees I wanted to afford, I learned the hard way often putting in 70-80 hours a week. Vacation time was only a dream.

 

[Zack @ Bling Sauce]

Maybe go a different route and rework the position into a paid internship? May require a little more work on your part to build a 'curriculum' of sorts and be more active in managing them but could be rewarding for everyone. If I recall you have connections with pro sports franchises?

If so, this can be very attractive work experience to marketing/PR students. My cousin was an all star baseball player but didn't have what it took to play college ball, went the marketing route and ultimately landed a job with the Tigers. He worked for pennies during school to gain experience and compete for good jobs post graduation.

-Zack

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Also if it is a baseball training center, maybe hiring a young guy or girl that is passionate about the sport or has played may help?

 

[Kachina26]

Find a retiree looking for somewhere to go every day.

 

[Mikemc1269]

The question is what is it worth to you to have a reliable person for the job and not have this turnover and BS.

I'm assuming it is minimum wage. If you are hiring high school girls in a nicer area like that, they can go get a job in the mall talking to their friends all day and do less work for the same wage and have less demands put on them.

At minimum wage you are competing with other jobs that require less focus and responsibility... so why do more for the same money?

Now I understand these employees are not "doing" much, but you are required to be there on time, stay for a certain amount of hours, etc. because this person is part of your front of the house business. It is far more critical to you to have this person there than it is to have an extra person on the floor in a store at the mall where they can show up late and leave early.

100% Agree with this. I overpay my employees for a minimum wage job but I figure that is the trade off I have to make to avoid employee turn over. I would much rather have reliable employees show up everyday than save a few bucks. In the long run, it's the cost of doing business for peace of mind.

 

[craiger88]

Something our local facility does is to try and hire softball and baseball players from the high schools. You may need 2 to cover the hours...just my two cents

 

[milkmoney]

Stop spending so much money on toys and up ur pay a little [emoji4] [emoji202]

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Stop spending so much money on toys and up ur pay a little [emoji4] [emoji202]

I'm not calling out Dirtbag here but I did chuckle a bit reading this thread..

Dirtbag - "My new Shockwave deck is bad ass with the 600!"

Dirtbag - "I'm getting a Polaris General this week, where can I get insurance?"

Dirtbag - "Why do teenage girls suck at minimum wage jobs?" "America is doomed!"

Honestly it sounds like a great gig for the right person.. My first job was at a hobby shop, in the RC car department. I was into racing RC cars from 6th grade on. I was always so stoked to go to work, and was never late. It did not even feel like work to me at the time. I probably would have done it without pay.

 

[ColdSteel]

Employees need a reason to come to work. Money, perks, or the pursuit of knowledge.

For most people, thats to support children and a family or a lifestyle of boats and hot rod parts. You can't do that on an entry level job position.

The only other reason I stuck around at any tough or undesirable job was to acquire experience or build a resume.

Money is the mightiest motivator in life and SoCal is an employees' market. I'm nobody special, but the fact that I can show up to work on time, be personable and piss clean for some reason puts me to the top of the stack and as of late, able to choose my employers.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Not just with college kids. In my group at work we have a few of these millennials that show up and leave when they feel like it.

 

[ColdSteel]

millennials that show up and leave when they feel like it.

That's a management problem.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Agree to an extent. However, some of these young adults just dont want to work. My job requires a ton of research and most of these young adults would rather send an email off to Design to get the answer rather than do their own research.

That's a management problem.

 

[rvrrun]

I'm not calling out Dirtbag here but I did chuckle a bit reading this thread..

Dirtbag - "My new Shockwave deck is bad ass with the 600!"

Dirtbag - "I'm getting a Polaris General this week, where can I get insurance?"

Dirtbag - "Why do teenage girls suck at minimum wage jobs?" "America is doomed!"

Honestly it sounds like a great gig for the right person.. My first job was at a hobby shop, in the RC car department. I was into racing RC cars from 6th grade on. I was always so stoked to go to work, and was never late. It did not even feel like work to me at the time. I probably would have done it without pay.

That is a dream first job.

Mine was at a small family owned toy store. Guess where my entire first paycheck went.

 

[poncho]

I got my work ethic from growing up farming, as soon as you are old enough to walk there will be a chore for you....bucking bails at 10 years old, loved it.:thumbup:

First job with a Social Security number was a place called "Dwights House of Teak". Owner was a Vietnamese guy who escaped the war but was able to maintain his small teak factory back home, family kept it going. I got the impression his politics meant he needed to get out.

I went in every day and assembled teak furniture, my favorite was the grandfather clocks. :thumbup:

It was like building models, everything came from Vietnam in small pieces....almost like jig saw puzzles. I avoided the 420 for this job, loved what I did.

I have always maintained even if I'm cleaning toilets I am going to do it better than anyone else, mediocre seems to be ok these day's.

 

[RP1]

I'm not calling out Dirtbag here but I did chuckle a bit reading this thread..

Dirtbag - "My new Shockwave deck is bad ass with the 600!"

Dirtbag - "I'm getting a Polaris General this week, where can I get insurance?"

Dirtbag - "Why do teenage girls suck at minimum wage jobs?" "America is doomed!"

Honestly it sounds like a great gig for the right person.. My first job was at a hobby shop, in the RC car department. I was into racing RC cars from 6th grade on. I was always so stoked to go to work, and was never late. It did not even feel like work to me at the time. I probably would have done it without pay.

To be fair, I think his toys are split with "Pops". The right combo of desire and work ethic are a challenge to be sure... minimum wage for that position is not far off except for the fact they are responsible for front end contact with potential customers. I might offer a bit of incentive for certain goals attained.

 

[jetboatperformance]

First real job I had @ 15 my boss Carlos taught me how to sweep the shop ....I always tell the "newbs" the first tool you learn to use here is a broom ..... default tool is a broom .... when Josh and I are too busy to tell you what to do get a broom

 

[BHC Vic]

Employees need a reason to come to work. Money, perks, or the pursuit of knowledge.

For most people, thats to support children and a family or a lifestyle of boats and hot rod parts. You can't do that on an entry level job position.

The only other reason I stuck around at any tough or undesirable job was to acquire experience or build a resume.

Money is the mightiest motivator in life and SoCal is an employees' market. I'm nobody special, but the fact that I can show up to work on time, be personable and piss clean for some reason puts me to the top of the stack and as of late, able to choose my employers.

Chance for advancement. I hated being a stocker/scraper for 10 bucks an hour. But I stuck with it and busted my ass because I knew if they liked me I'd become a 1st stage apprentice. And eventually I'd be making 4x that much plus bennies. That was enough to make me show up on time everyday and make me want to out perform any other stocker scraper. I wasn't just showing up I was competing for a career

 

[BHC Vic]

1st under the table job I ran the snack bars for creekside and snow creek (walnut pony baseball) first real job was Petsmart. Over minimum wage I was s let specialist. Then Dennys to wait tables. Then ups. Then carpenter. None were minimum wage all of them i planned on moving to the top. Dennys and ups I was partying way too much and dug my own grave. Started Petsmart when I was 15 had a work zero period deal. Been working since I was 13... all though I don't know why since my parents buy me everything ����

 

[72Hondo]

Also if it is a baseball training center, maybe hiring a young guy or girl that is passionate about the sport or has played may help?

This.

Hit up the batting cages, little leagues, etc. don't use anybody to fill a hole. You won't succeed very often.

A flyer or two posted at a little league or batting cage I bet would do wonders. Who knows you might find a stay at home mom who just wants something to do.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

To be fair, I think his toys are split with "Pops". The right combo of desire and work ethic are a challenge to be sure... minimum wage for that position is not far off except for the fact they are responsible for front end contact with potential customers. I might offer a bit of incentive for certain goals attained.

Agreed. I don't know his finances, it was just a tongue in cheek observation.

 

[spectra3279]

Get one of these kids hot mom to do it.

 

[ColdSteel]

Chance for advancement. I hated being a stocker/scraper for 10 bucks an hour. But I stuck with it and busted my ass because I knew if they liked me I'd become a 1st stage apprentice. And eventually I'd be making 4x that much plus bennies. That was enough to make me show up on time everyday and make me want to out perform any other stocker scraper. I wasn't just showing up I was competing for a career

Like Ritchey said, strong work ethic is an uncommon trait in employees these days. Often times, I've noticed that the most productive and talented people are driven from within. Some people excel in turd jobs simply for the challenge of seeing how fast or productive they can be (we've done it). Not everyone has the desire to work harder to polish a BS skill. Grit, resilience and versatility are qualities that are by and large, overlooked by hiring managers and HR departments. In my experience, getting people to pay your worth for these qualities has been a challenge.
That being said, good employers don't advertise for vacancies or have turnover problems.

In any career field, usually, the cream rises and the turds sink.... But sometimes they get stuck pretty high up on the porcelain!

 

[rmarion]

Look for a 50 y/o +, pay minimum wages with full bennies...

you'll probably find someone capable who can replace you fulltime...

 

[Bobby V]

Look for a 50 y/o +, pay minimum wages with full bennies...

you'll probably find someone capable who can replace you fulltime...

Hey Im 56 retiring soon and love baseball. Whats minimum age these days..

I don't need the bennies..

 

[BHC Vic]

Hey Im 56 retiring soon and love baseball. Whats minimum age these days..

I don't need the bennies..

lol my dad is retiring this month. He's probably looking for something to keep busy. He's only allowed to make a certain amount though I forget what it is.

 

[Dirtbag]

I think we are missing the point here....this is possibly the easiest job in history.....the point is calling out sick orflat out not showing up. Or hey im gonna be 20 -30 minutes late 30 mins before shift starts....

Ask your dads dont care how old you are if this is acceptable. Your dads prolly made less than 5 bux an hour starting out.

And we get this bullshit from todays kids? Im not saying the world is coming to an end....but we should be ansolutely fucking ashamed that this shit is allowed. My dad and my grandpa taught me better. They woulda beat my ass because im using THEIR name. No fucking accountability in parents anymore....im hoping im doing right by my kids...i know i am we dont let shit slide in our house