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My golf club has just received new PIN/Flags for each hole, the flags are of the USA flag. Is it bad to have them since we are gonna be placing them on the green?

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My golf club has just received new PIN/Flags for each hole, the flags are of the USA flag. Is it bad to have them since we are gonna be placing them on the green?

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That would be my feelings. I have USA flag head covers on my driver, 3 wood and hybrid and I will not put them on the ground.
 

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That would be my feelings. I have USA flag head covers on my driver, 3 wood and hybrid and I will not put them on the ground.

We are having quite the debate on this at our club, some say since they are not regulated size it's ok, our men's and women's club members did this as a donation to celebrate the flag.
 

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Have those at the club I belong to. We only use them on the 4th of July and when we do we have caddies at each hole to pull the pin and hold it
 

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seemed wrong so had to google..

The flag of the United States is any flag of the United States, or any part thereof, made of any substance, of any size, accurate or not, that is recognized as a flag by the reasonable observer." (Flag Code, Section 3)

"No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America." (Flag Code, Section 8)

yep wrong.
 

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Other courses that have done this provide a pin holder (does not have to be a person) at the side of the green to hold the pin so the flag does not touch the ground. The Flag should never touch the ground.
 

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If it has 50 stars and 13 stripes it IS a flag!

With that said full honor and respect apply when handling it. If it's left up all night every flag must be illuminated. If illumination is not an options then every flag must be put away at dusk in an honorable manner.

When golfing and on the green to putt no one better throw the pin on the ground!

The only way to get around any of this is to use a variant of the U.S. flag. Less stars less stripes or more over each. etc etc. Doing this changes it to NOT a flag and nothing more than a patriotic symbol and flag law does not apply.
 

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If it has 50 stars and 13 stripes it IS a flag!

With that said full honor and respect apply when handling it. If it's left up all night every flag must be illuminated. If illumination is not an options then every flag must be put away at dusk in an honorable manner.

When golfing and on the green to putt no one better throw the pin on the ground!

The only way to get around any of this is to use a variant of the U.S. flag. Less stars less stripes or more over each. etc etc. Doing this changes it to NOT a flag and nothing more than a patriotic symbol and flag law does not apply.

Note the stars.
 

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Why don't you just drive your golf cart on the green and lean the pin with the flag on it against the cart and see if the golf club still feels the same way about etiquette and respect.
 

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Is Upland Hills really a "golf club"?[emoji23]
 

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This shit drives me up the wall. This is NOT!!! Proper flag etiquette. The actual flag shall never be worn as a garment or allowed to touch the floor.

I hear you and as you are a vet even more so. This flag appears to be short stars and a few stripes so it could be assumed it fell under the 'not a flag, but a patriotic symbol" part of your comment. I'm guessing that's how the company marketed their beach towels anyway. People in the south wear the flag on damn near every part of their body and Redneck Bob will swear he's the most 'Merican in the country.
 

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I hear you and as you are a vet even more so. This flag appears to be short stars and a few stripes so it could be assumed it fell under the 'not a flag, but a patriotic symbol" part of your comment. I'm guessing that's how the company marketed their beach towels anyway. People in the south wear the flag on damn near every part of their body and Redneck Bob will swear he's the most 'Merican in the country.
Being that all the stars are not visable I couldn't count them. Didn't even count the visable stripes till now. Hell didn't even notice it was a towel till now. With that said... if it is a towel and is not flag correct I have no problem with it. If it's an actual proper flag then she should burn with it.
 

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Being that all the stars are not visable I couldn't count them. Didn't even count the visable stripes till now. Hell didn't even notice it was a towel till now. With that said... if it is a towel and is not flag correct I have no problem with it. If it's an actual proper flag then she should burn with it.

Still pushing the limits. There are a few companies making beach towels and at least one is a correct flag. I saw a few last summer on the 4th so I goggled it and that was the most controversial pic I found. Not a 100% correct flag, but damn close.
 

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Still pushing the limits. There are a few companies making beach towels and at least one is a correct flag. I saw a few last summer on the 4th so I goggled it and that was the most controversial pic I found. Not a 100% correct flag, but damn close.
I'm all for being patriotic but I'm more about being correct about being patriotic. You are definitely right though. Lots of items out there that push the limits.
 

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It would bother me if I had to hold the pin for everone else since I usually chip it in from inside 60 yards...lmao[emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1]
I'd never lay it on the ground[emoji50] [emoji107]
 

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I would lean the pin against my golf bag or the cart or something, but I would not lay it down. The two pieces of "clothes" with a representation of a flag that I can not get behind are the socks and the converse shoes. I know it's not a real flag, but I don't agree with putting something representing the flag with stars and stripes on your feet, and walking around on them.
 

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That is about as unpatriotic as you can get!!!! I find a new club thats just wrong!!:smackhead
 

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Won't stop a fight at Walmart but worried about putting the pin on the ground at the golf course? You ladies need to check your priorities. :D
 

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Being that all the stars are not visable I couldn't count them. Didn't even count the visable stripes till now. Hell didn't even notice it was a towel till now. With that said... if it is a towel and is not flag correct I have no problem with it. If it's an actual proper flag then she should burn with it.
Notice th stars are not all the same size or positioned correctly
 

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Par 70...5900 yards from the tips. Executive course. :D

It's basically 6000 yards and very tight, not even close to executive, most that think it's easy but I've won a lot of money over the years watching people thinks it's an easy course and laughing my ass off as they shoot quite a bit higher then their handicap.
 

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That is about as unpatriotic as you can get!!!! I find a new club thats just wrong!!:smackhead

RELAX, asinine comment, the intent was great, just not thought out completely by those that planned it, rest assured the people involved would never knowingly disrespect the flag.
 

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As mentioned earlier when we put the flags out for the 3 Summer holiday weekends at my club Metal Flag Stands (designed to allow the pin (and Flag) to be supported and not be laid onthe ground were provided on every hole.

It took me a while to figure out what the stands were for as I found myself holding the pins and then handing them to another member of the group until we figured out that there were stands......oh well at least WE never put the flags on the ground :D
 

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It's basically 6000 yards and very tight, not even close to executive, most that think it's easy but I've won a lot of money over the years watching people thinks it's an easy course and laughing my ass off as they shoot quite a bit higher then their handicap.

Oh I know all about tight golf courses. My home course is Black Gold in Yorba Linda. :p
 

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My golf club has just received new PIN/Flags for each hole, the flags are of the USA flag. Is it bad to have them since we are gonna be placing them on the green?

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I think a better idea would be to get another set of pins, and stand them and the flags -- off to the side of the green.
Your club is going to get nothing but controversy if you use the flags on the pins that go in the cup. IMHO it's a dumb idea to use them 'in play'
 

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RELAX, asinine comment, the intent was great, just not thought out completely by those that planned it, rest assured the peopleinvolved would never knowingly disrespect the flag.

You'r probably right. I'm sure there was no ill intent! I'm just a little sensitive about the lack of respect displayed by a big part of this great nation. It seems that people dont even appreciate what our for father's have given up to make this nation what it is today!
This reminds me of a thread on this site on Memorial Day a couple of weeks ago.
Again I apologize I'm just a little sensitive about the whole subject!
 

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You'r probably right. I'm sure there was no ill intent! I'm just a little sensitive about the lack of respect displayed by a big part of this great nation. It seems that people dont even appreciate what our for father's have given up to make this nation what it is today!
This reminds me of a thread on this site on Memorial Day a couple of weeks ago.
Again I apologize I'm just a little sensitive about the whole subject!

All good and I agree with you, I asked because I didn't know the exact etiquette, now I know and if I carry any weight at our club they will not be used.
 

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I think a better idea would be to get another set of pins, and stand them and the flags -- off to the side of the green.
Your club is going to get nothing but controversy if you use the flags on the pins that go in the cup. IMHO it's a dumb idea to use them 'in play'

When I saw this idea at the club house I thought it was for decorative flags to be placed around the course, guess I should have read the complete donation request.
 

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You'r probably right. I'm sure there was no ill intent! I'm just a little sensitive about the lack of respect displayed by a big part of this great nation. It seems that people dont even appreciate what our for father's have given up to make this nation what it is today!
This reminds me of a thread on this site on Memorial Day a couple of weeks ago.
Again I apologize I'm just a little sensitive about the whole subject!

The amount of people who don't know the flag code is staggering. I'm still learning myself to be honest. I don't think most people deliberately disrespect the flag, but it's more they just don't know and think they are being patriotic.

Watched Nova last night about D-Day. Great documentary where they took vets down in subs to see the ships they were on sitting on the bottom of the ocean off the beach. I can't imagine storming that beach.
 

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When I saw this idea at the club house I thought it was for decorative flags to be placed around the course, guess I should have read the complete donation request.
Just have them start a new donation for stands.[emoji3] [emoji6]
 
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