Two HUGE Vax developments today 8/24

[HotRod82]

First - The FDA recommends NOT giving the vaccine to kids under 12.
Why not? How many other vaccines are given to kids under 12?
If the Vax isn't safe for kids under 12, how can it be safe for pregnant women?

Second- The day after FDA approval, the CEO of Pfizer announces publicly it is "highly likely" a variant will emerge that will defeat their vaccine. To me, this means they ALREADY know their shot is going to stop working.

This is utter madness.

 

[Desert Whaler]

So on your 13th birthday you are 'magically' able to take the Vax ? . . . but take it the day before and you're cooked ?
Incredible.

 

[Spectra18]

This whole Vaccine thing is a lot like “ anal sex”. You can’t just engage in it. You gotta start slow. Tongue -finger-lube -tip before you go at it. Guess what we’re all getting fudged!

 

[regor]

 

[ElAzul]

Probably best to get one of each available to cover all yore bases

 

[TeamGreene]

So on your 13th birthday you are 'magically' able to take the Vax ? . . . but take it the day before and you're cooked ?
Incredible.

It's the same backwardsass thinking as with imposing mask mandates like last week LA county imposes mandate Thursday at midnight so Friday nights Dodger game you had to wear face masks. But if this is soooooooooo fucking dire and dangerous what about the thousands of people at Thursday nights game? Guess their all going to die. Arbitrary bullshit.

 

[regor]

 

[Danger Dave]

Ultra-Vaccinated Israel’s Crisis Is a Dire Warning to America

“I don’t want to frighten you,” Israel’s COVID czar Dr. Salman Zarka told parliament this week. “But… unfortunately, the numbers don’t lie.”

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[HotRod82]

Ultra-Vaccinated Israel’s Crisis Is a Dire Warning to America

“I don’t want to frighten you,” Israel’s COVID czar Dr. Salman Zarka told parliament this week. “But… unfortunately, the numbers don’t lie.”

www.thedailybeast.com

This should be front page news because this is EXACTLY where we are headed. The vaccines are not holding.

 

[Danger Dave]

This should be front page news because this is EXACTLY where we are headed. The vaccines are not holding.

"Shhhh." - Uncle Dave

 

[500bbc]

Ultra-Vaccinated Israel’s Crisis Is a Dire Warning to America

“I don’t want to frighten you,” Israel’s COVID czar Dr. Salman Zarka told parliament this week. “But… unfortunately, the numbers don’t lie.”

www.thedailybeast.com

There is no "vaccine", the Fao Chi virus is not going away.

 

[jet496]

The way I see it, what's causing the surge is the false sense of security that the vaccinations & masks work.

 

[caribbean20]

and another development that was bound to happen. Don’t want to get the vaccine, that’s cool, it’s America, anybody can do anything they want. But . . . there’s usually financial consequences to our choices.

 

[Flying_Lavey]

Its cyclical. Just like every other corona virus strain. It will come and go in waves. Some waves and seasons will be stronger than others. It will end up being just like the flu in the regards to its timing and differing severity and contagion level.

It will NOT be going away. This isn't like Polio or the measles viruses that don't mutate so they are well controlled via vaccinations. Diseases caused by a coronavirus strain do not respond well to vaccinations due to their constant mutations, as we are seeing.

There are a few reasons the flu shot is only marginally effective. One of which being, there are so many strains that nobody knows for sure which one they will contract and even then, the vaccines are only so effective.

NONE of this is new. The media and attention whore doctors that are profiting off the scare tactics and leaving out the full truth is what is driving this entire thing.

Well that and the politicians that are trying to capitalize on a good crisis.

 

[HotRod82]

Now today, the CDC Officially downgraded the Vax efficacy from 91 to 66 percent! I'd bet $$$$ that very soon we will see a headline declaring all the vaccines are now ineffective due to some variant, and Big Pharma needs another 100 Billion to start over at square one.

 

[samsah33]

and another development that was bound to happen. Don’t want to get the vaccine, that’s cool, it’s America, anybody can do anything they want. But . . . there’s usually financial consequences to our choices.
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Will be interesting to see how this shakes out. I thought it was discriminatory to charge different health insurance rates for different groups, which is why insurance now covers (and charges for that coverage) both men and women for pregnancies for example... Consideration of risk was removed with Obama Care.

 

[was thatguy]

First - The FDA recommends NOT giving the vaccine to kids under 12.
Why not? How many other vaccines are given to kids under 12?
If the Vax isn't safe for kids under 12, how can it be safe for pregnant women?

Second- The day after FDA approval, the CEO of Pfizer announces publicly it is "highly likely" a variant will emerge that will defeat their vaccine. To me, this means they ALREADY know their shot is going to stop working.

This is utter madness.

 

[caribbean20]

Will be interesting to see how this shakes out. I thought it was discriminatory to charge different health insurance rates for different groups, which is why insurance now covers (and charges for that coverage) both men and women for pregnancies for example... Consideration of risk was removed with Obama Care.

Good point. Insurance has to cover even if pre-existing conditions.

I pay for private insurance and as a taxpayer, on the hook for the cost of Medicare and Medicaid. Getting real tired of paying for other people’s decisions (e.g., 90% of those hospitalized with COVID are not vaccinated).

 

[was thatguy]

Will be interesting to see how this shakes out. I thought it was discriminatory to charge different health insurance rates for different groups, which is why insurance now covers (and charges for that coverage) both men and women for pregnancies for example... Consideration of risk was removed with Obama Care.

Life insurance is about roughly double for smokers on term policies at 60+ years old.

 

[samsah33]

Life insurance is about roughly double for smokers on term policies at 60+ years old.

Ya, was talking health insurance only, fortunately Obama Care doesn't cover life or other insurances that I'm aware of

 

[HitIt]

Now today, the CDC Officially downgraded the Vax efficacy from 91 to 66 percent!

Source? I would like to forward it.

 

[HotRod82]

msn.com this morning.

 

[Backlash]

Source? I would like to forward it.

'Keep your guard up': CDC studies show waning COVID-19 vaccine efficacy as delta variant sweeps US

Unvaccinated people in Los Angeles were more than 29 times more likely to be hospitalized than the vaccinated, according to a CDC study.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Danger Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1430645051911200770

 

[HotRod82]

IMO - this is the last Hail Mary attempt for the current vaccines. The data coming out of Israel is shining the spotlight on where we are heading. Massive breakthrough cases headed into winter. Again, IMO , they will continue to increase until virtually every hospitalization will be fully vaccinated. Probably happen by the end of the year.

 

[Sandlord]

 

[regor]

IMO - this is the last Hail Mary attempt for the current vaccines. The data coming out of Israel is shining the spotlight on where we are heading. Massive breakthrough cases headed into winter. Again, IMO , they will continue to increase until virtually every hospitalization will be fully vaccinated. Probably happen by the end of the year.

Great stuff those Israelis are producing. They looked at natural immunity from after February 2021 and from March 2020 to February 2021.

" When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

 

[Danger Dave]

Sad.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1430722193189605376

 

[brgrcru]

I’m Still searching for that meteor !

 

[Maw]

Taken from the USA Today article linked above:

"If you wait until eight months, you’re two or three months vulnerable while delta is circulating. Whatever you’re doing in life, unless you live in a cave, you're getting incremental exposures," Topol said.

I would have thought "incremental exposures" would have maintained and boosted your own natural antibodies with only modest risk of a major episode. These newly added antibodies then keeping pace with the various mutations in the virus.

 

[Uncle Dave]

"Shhhh." - Uncle Dave

Old news (over a month old) and already discussed.

Of the 3 efficacies to look at, one wanes.

 

[HotRod82]

Old news (over a month old) and already discussed.

Of the 3 efficacies to look at, one wanes.

The problem I'm having with the "data" UD, is the official numbers do not reflect current trend lines. Israel is under water with infections, so is the UK, as we are here in the US. Take a step back and look at the overall trend line, infection rates are tracking right along side the vaccination rates. In fact, there is an argument to be made the vaccine is actually accelerating the infection rate. The most profound example of course is Sweden, very LOW vaccination rate, only 2 Covid deaths in the past month in a population of about 10.5 million. Israel the other hand, HIGH vaccination rate, population about 9.5 million and they are losing about 30 people A DAY to Covid. If these two facts are not an argument illustrating at least questionable efficacy, I don't know what is......

 

[Uncle Dave]

The problem I'm having with the "data" UD, is the official numbers do not reflect current trend lines. Israel is under water with infections, so is the UK, as we are here in the US. Take a step back and look at the overall trend line, infection rates are tracking right along side the vaccination rates. In fact, there is an argument to be made the vaccine is actually accelerating the infection rate. The most profound example of course is Sweden, very LOW vaccination rate, only 2 Covid deaths in the past month in a population of about 10.5 million. Israel the other hand, HIGH vaccination rate, population about 9.5 million and they are losing about 30 people A DAY to Covid. If these two facts are not an argument illustrating at least questionable efficacy, I don't know what is......

John Campbell goes over the latest data that comes out daily in far more detail than any clickbait article or person here begins to. Isreal / UK / US

He'll show you the good and bad in the actual stats of what you are referring to.

There is much there most RDPer would cheer, ivermectin and HCQ studies, FDA criticism, and much it won't - vaccine effectiveness across all efficacies.

Because I absorb and am open to all sources can you send your info on the vaccine accelerating the infection rate?

 

[JBS]

Source? I would like to forward it.

Effectiveness of COVID-19 Vaccines in Preventing SARS-CoV-2 Infection Among Frontline Workers Before and During B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant Predominance — Eight U.S. Locations, December 2020–August 2021 (cdc.gov)

 

[JBS]

Great stuff those Israelis are producing. They looked at natural immunity from after February 2021 and from March 2020 to February 2021.

" When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf



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Natural immunity is worthless according to the experts.

 

[DWC]

Makes me laugh every time.

 

[Uncle Dave]

Good point. Insurance has to cover even if pre-existing conditions.

Lets talk about insurance - the pict is my companies monthly bill.

Sure they cover pre existing conditions - but they put a utilization cap on you based on prior history.

They simply fuck you a different way. Ask me how I know.....

 

[Flying_Lavey]

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Nobody else picked up on the woman that is supposed to be in charge of ensuring the pharmaceutical companies are being ethical and truthful is MARRIED TO THE GUY DRIVING THIS ENTIRE THING????