Twin 500s on a pontoon.

[sirbob]

Not the first I’m sure but this was just shot while filming for the Avalon / Tahoe pontoon 2024 catalogue in MI.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not the first I’m sure but this was just shot while filming for the Avalon / Tahoe pontoon 2024 catalogue in MI.

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That looks like a fast moving garage door!

 

[Tank]

I’ll stuff that focker!!

 

[DWC]

Gotta be a 90mph boat. That’d get my ass to Topock in a hurry.

The pup on the way..

 

[OLDRAAT]

I’ll stuff that focker!!

With Danny riding shotgun.

 

[Tank]

With Danny riding shotgun.

I don’t think Dan will ever get in a pontoon boat with me again. He still has PTSD

 

[OLDRAAT]

He also needs to stay away from the wake tractors too.

 

[Rajobigguy]

So it’s a thousand hp cattle barge. I guess if you need to get the meat too market in a hurry this will work.

 

[traquer]

Pontoon will always mean this in my mind:

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Pontoon will always mean this in my mind:

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You just offended 2/3s of BenGay Dave’s Place.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

You just offended 2/3s of BenGay Dave’s Place.

Nah, he's right! Sometimes we have to buy a shitty pontoon to appease the wife so we can have a cool 2nd boat. I'm ok with the shit talking.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Nah, he's right! Sometimes we have to buy a shitty pontoon to appease the wife so we can have a cool 2nd boat. I'm ok with the shit talking.

A boat is a boat. No shame in that game.

 

[RiverDave]

Gotta be a 90mph boat. That’d get my ass to Topock in a hurry.

The pup on the way..

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I don’t think it’s gonna run 90.. my twin 400 boat ran 63-64..

 

[Happy Smitty]

Fastest couch I've ever seen. Damn!

 

[OC Mike]

I don’t think it’s gonna run 90.. my twin 400 boat ran 63-64..

I've been wondering about these Pontoons.
Are they a Displacement Hull or a Planing Hull.
Is it riding on top or pushing through the water.

Is a pontoon boat a displacement hull? - BoatingWorld

Pontoon boats have become increasingly popular in recent years as a versatile watercraft for those looking for a fun and relaxed boating experience on the

www.boatingworld.com

Or is it some kind of Hybrid.
A true displacement hull's speed is limited by it's length.
There is a point at which it's maxed and more horsepower won't push it faster.

 

[RiverDave]

I've been wondering about these Pontoons.
Are they a Displacement Hull or a Planing Hull.
Is it riding on top or pushing through the water.

Is a pontoon boat a displacement hull? - BoatingWorld

Pontoon boats have become increasingly popular in recent years as a versatile watercraft for those looking for a fun and relaxed boating experience on the

www.boatingworld.com

Or is it some kind of Hybrid.
A true displacement hull's speed is limited by it's length.
There is a point at which it's maxed and more horsepower won't push it faster.

Depends on the Mfg.. some of them are a lot faster than others.. of the big names Avalon is the slowest but in my opinion has the best layout / windshield and comfort..

 

[traquer]

Remember the Advantage Party Cat in the 90s? They were way ahead of the curve I think. Basically a cat on the bottom and pontoon up top

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Depends on the Mfg.. some of them are a lot faster than others.. of the big names Avalon is the slowest but in my opinion has the best layout / windshield and comfort..

Which is the fastest? Chasetoon?

 

[sirbob]

Gotta be a 90mph boat. That’d get my ass to Topock in a hurry.

The pup on the way..

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I heard today it was solid 80s - I didn’t hear a claimed top speed.

 

[stingray11]

I've been wondering about these Pontoons.
Are they a Displacement Hull or a Planing Hull.
Is it riding on top or pushing through the water.

Is a pontoon boat a displacement hull? - BoatingWorld

Pontoon boats have become increasingly popular in recent years as a versatile watercraft for those looking for a fun and relaxed boating experience on the

www.boatingworld.com

Or is it some kind of Hybrid.
A true displacement hull's speed is limited by it's length.
There is a point at which it's maxed and more horsepower won't push it faster.

As soon as the boat planes off it's no longer a displacement hull. Total waste of money if you ask me.

 

[riverroyal]

I've been wondering about these Pontoons.
Are they a Displacement Hull or a Planing Hull.
Is it riding on top or pushing through the water.

Is a pontoon boat a displacement hull? - BoatingWorld

Pontoon boats have become increasingly popular in recent years as a versatile watercraft for those looking for a fun and relaxed boating experience on the

www.boatingworld.com

Or is it some kind of Hybrid.
A true displacement hull's speed is limited by it's length.
There is a point at which it's maxed and more horsepower won't push it faster.

No
It's 3 tubes skimming across the water.
The skim changes by manufacturer.

I've said this before, I see zero reason to go over 50 mph. They don't 'handle'.
Skim, cut, float, plow is all determined by hp and tube lower designs.

Pontoons are modular built. Pieces are basically bolted down to the same deck by footage.
A great pontoon is saying the same as a great RV.

 

[TCHB]

That looks like a fast moving garage door!

3 mph faster than 450s.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

3 mph faster than 450s.

Which are what, 3 mph faster than 400s?

Diminishing returns? We are there in Toon life.

That’s what, a $100K spread in MSRP to go 6 MPH faster?

 

[TCHB]

No
It's 3 tubes skimming across the water.
The skim changes by manufacturer.

I've said this before, I see zero reason to go over 50 mph. They don't 'handle'.
Skim, cut, float, plow is all determined by hp and tube lower designs.

Pontoons are modular built. Pieces are basically bolted down to the same deck by footage.
A great pontoon is saying the same as a great RV.

I would like to see the engineering behind the structure to handle this much HP and weight placed on the front of boat. It is bolted together with a plywood type deck with small bolting. I added on my twin toon boat over 60 thru bolts into the frame.

 

[RiverDave]

Which is the fastest? Chasetoon?

No they would be actual slower than an Avalon.. but you have to remember it is a larger boat than most the other ones. I believe the chase toons are like 33’ before the motors?

Fastest is either trifecta or manitou

 

[Justfishing]

I've been wondering about these Pontoons.
Are they a Displacement Hull or a Planing Hull.
Is it riding on top or pushing through the water.

Is a pontoon boat a displacement hull? - BoatingWorld

Pontoon boats have become increasingly popular in recent years as a versatile watercraft for those looking for a fun and relaxed boating experience on the

www.boatingworld.com

Or is it some kind of Hybrid.
A true displacement hull's speed is limited by it's length.
There is a point at which it's maxed and more horsepower won't push it faster.

Lifting strakes on the lower edge of the tube help lift the boat making it a planing hull. There are some other tricks. Some you a larger or lower center tube. Regardless there is still a lot of wetted surface taking a lot of power.

 

[riverroyal]

The engineering is there. My avalon with 300 is really built well structurally. It has zero flex.

 

[TCHB]

Lifting strakes on the lower edge of the tube help lift the boat making it a planing hull. There are some other tricks. Some you a larger or lower center tube. Regardless there is still a lot of wetted surface taking a lot of power.

Especially with 800 pounds up front.

 

[PlanB]

I don’t think it’s gonna run 90.. my twin 400 boat ran 63-64..

They posted on their FB page that it ran 80.

 

[sirbob]

3 mph faster than 450s.

The 450s on an Avalon / Tahoe run 78. So = 80+

 

[PlanB]

I've been wondering about these Pontoons.
Are they a Displacement Hull or a Planing Hull.
Is it riding on top or pushing through the water.

Is a pontoon boat a displacement hull? - BoatingWorld

Pontoon boats have become increasingly popular in recent years as a versatile watercraft for those looking for a fun and relaxed boating experience on the

www.boatingworld.com

Or is it some kind of Hybrid.
A true displacement hull's speed is limited by it's length.
There is a point at which it's maxed and more horsepower won't push it faster.

The newer performance tritoons have lifting strakes. My Bennington will plane out at about 16 MPH.

 

[JB in so cal]

Now that seems like a logical place to spend $350k! Well done

 

[sirbob]

Now that seems like a logical place to spend $350k! Well done

Are you getting a deal ?

 

[DWC]

I heard today it was solid 80s - I didn’t hear a claimed top speed.

That’s still moving out.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

That’s still moving out.

Fast enough to piss of the wives and daughters.

 

[DWC]

Fast enough to piss of the wives and daughters.

Usually just the passengers up front or in the middle seat. . Steph is usually telling me to go a little faster these days. I’d be afraid to see what Maddie would do if i wasn’t on the boat. Might find out how fast it’ll go. Just wait. It’s just around the corner for you.

 

[HALLETT BOY]

Which are what, 3 mph faster than 400s?

Diminishing returns? We are there in Toon life.

That’s what, a $100K spread in MSRP to go 6 MPH faster?

Years ago that would’ve been worth it , not now

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Usually just the passengers up front or in the middle seat. . Steph is usually telling me to go a little faster these days. I’d be afraid to see what Maddie would do if i wasn’t on the boat. Might find out how fast it’ll go. Just wait. It’s just around the corner for you.

It’s already starting Soph keeps bumping the throttle when I let her drive the boat.

 

[arch stanton]

They need to add steps to the tubes got to worth 5 MPH

 

[DWC]

It’s already starting Soph keeps bumping the throttle when I let her drive the boat.

Doesn’t surprise me. She’s got people to see and places to be. If it was Justin i would have been a little surprised

 

[C-Ya]

I don’t think it’s gonna run 90.. my twin 400 boat ran 63-64..

Had you put a set of jackplates on your boat it would have gone A LOT faster.

My twin 700hp ( total hp ) Playcraft 27’ Xtreme went 98 miles per hour. The jackplates were the key. They also worked like a set of brakes too!

 

[monkeyswrench]

I guess I'm a bit the odd duck here. If I had the coin for twin 500's, they'd probably hang on the back of a fast cat I'd have no business driving.

If a toon does 40 or so, I'd be more than happy. Can eat my sammich and not spill my soda while pulling a tube.

I just think putting a 1000hp on a toon is like putting compounds on your diesel pusher. It's cool, it may be comfortable and even faster than others, but a Prevost isn't a Corvette.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Guessing close to $500,000??

 

[81Sprint]

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should

 

[BingerFang]

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should

Tell that to the tranny crowd

 

[CLdrinker]

Meh…. It’s no 1350….

 

[TCHB]

The 450s on an Avalon / Tahoe run 78. So = 80+

Not with 6 people and fuel.

 

[sirbob]

Not with 6 people and fuel.

3 people and a half tank

 

[TCHB]

3 people and a half tank

Put another 5 and fill the tank. Lucky to hit 60.

 

[DWC]

Put another 5 and fill the tank. Lucky to hit 60.

BIL’s Trifecta will do 60 with 6 people, full ice chests and gassed up. I think the Avalon is a little heavier/slower but the 500’s vs 400’s should offset it I’d love to see a full water test comparison.