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I have another thread in the other OHV section, I purchased a 2019 Polaris Turbo S 2 set with the Fox Live Valve system that Polaris calls Dynamix.
The car has metal doors, an aftermarket cage, aftermarket seats, and about 100lbs of stuff in the bed, + or - depending on the ride we are going on.
Polaris has a long standing tradition of putting crap springs on their machines, and they continued this tradition with this car, and with the ProXp from what I have read. All of these manufacturers have their things, chineseum springs is one of Polaris.
The Live Valve suspension is real. The first time you drive a car with it you will agree.
Honda has it on the Talon, and the other day Can Am announced they have it available, and took the next step by adding rebound to the electronics. Frankly, I didn't know the Polaris system wasn't covering rebound, it rides that well. Amazing.
Amazing, that is, until the springs go to hell.
Everyone should know that the dual spring set ip on Polaris is not a true dual rate deal. There are no crossovers to control the spring action, the small springs at the top of the shock are merely tenders; they keep the stack in line when the shock moves to full extension. You ride on the main spring, all the time. On the Turbo S they changed this a wee bit...the stock "tender" spring actually is not in full coil bind, you have roughly 2 inches of spring before it goes to bind.
On my car that took about 250 miles.
Here is a pic of the car with the bed empty, but the new cage on. Look at the upper spring. You can see it is already giving up This was at 200 miles.
Load the bed up and then wife and I and at 400 miles we were in full coil bind. The Dynamix system still compensates for a lot of the issues, but I could tell when set on comfort we were losing the compliance provided by that spring.
Then started the research. Way back when I did the work on my XP1k and I posted the thread on it's suspension I used ED the Suspension Guy to set it up. I was very happy with his work and right after I bought this car I let him know I had it, he told me a set of springs would probably fix the vast majority of my complaints. I told him I would be in touch.
When it came time to jump, last March, I could not get him to respond ot text, call, PM or email. Ultimately, after over a month and a half of trying I gave up.
I went directly to Eibach and began looking at their offerings.
Eibach offers many spring kits and products for these machines. I don't fly the car (on purpose) and told the tech all the info I could about our riding style, where we ride. He gave me two options, the Stage 2 kit or the stage 3 kit.
I then spoke to Craig at Pro UTV parts.com.
Craig is a straight shooter, and drives these things, so he isn't just a salesman.
We had a hiccup with a part number, but that was worked out and he made it right. Ultimately, I chose to go with the Stage 2 kit. These kits come with 8 springs, spring sliders, and crossover nuts. Eibach makes you look up directions on their website, which is a pain in the ass.
You will need a spring compressor to get the rear new rear springs collapsed enough to get the cup back on. I recommend the Shankly unit sold on amazon.
Here are a couple more pics of the car with the new rears on.
The difference is pretty obvious.
From the back of the car...note that it is loaded, about 80 lbs in it. Eibach suggests 2.30ish inches of preload as a starting point to get back to the 16.5 inch ride height. It is set now at 2.75 inches of preload, and is at the 16.5 mark.
Just running around the property I can tell the compliance in comfort mode is back. We ride in comfort unless running fast in the dunes o flying across a desert trail, I bump it up to sport mode at that point. Will have to wait until we get out to ride again for a full review, but I expect good things. crossovers in rear and the front settings are at Eibach's suggestions.
A word of caution...if you have a 2020 Turbo S 4 seater the kits listed for the 18-19 cars will NOT fit your ride. Polaris changed the shock bodies on the rear and the crossovers and shock sliders will not fit. I suggest using Craig at Pro UTV to buy the Eibach kits, he has very good prices and will discount you below the price on his web site. Make dang sure you have the right part number kit for your car. Eibach's part numbering system is screwball as heck.
The bad news is that COVID has hit Eibach like everyone else.
Stage 3 kit for my car is backordred through July 27th, probably longer.
Craig just happened to have a Stage 2 kit in stock, I got lucky. If you are a SoCal type guy and planning to do this come fall, I would think about getting on the backorder list now. I suspect spring kits for the Can Ams are also backordered, plan ahead.
The car has metal doors, an aftermarket cage, aftermarket seats, and about 100lbs of stuff in the bed, + or - depending on the ride we are going on.
Polaris has a long standing tradition of putting crap springs on their machines, and they continued this tradition with this car, and with the ProXp from what I have read. All of these manufacturers have their things, chineseum springs is one of Polaris.
The Live Valve suspension is real. The first time you drive a car with it you will agree.
Honda has it on the Talon, and the other day Can Am announced they have it available, and took the next step by adding rebound to the electronics. Frankly, I didn't know the Polaris system wasn't covering rebound, it rides that well. Amazing.
Amazing, that is, until the springs go to hell.
Everyone should know that the dual spring set ip on Polaris is not a true dual rate deal. There are no crossovers to control the spring action, the small springs at the top of the shock are merely tenders; they keep the stack in line when the shock moves to full extension. You ride on the main spring, all the time. On the Turbo S they changed this a wee bit...the stock "tender" spring actually is not in full coil bind, you have roughly 2 inches of spring before it goes to bind.
On my car that took about 250 miles.
Here is a pic of the car with the bed empty, but the new cage on. Look at the upper spring. You can see it is already giving up This was at 200 miles.
Load the bed up and then wife and I and at 400 miles we were in full coil bind. The Dynamix system still compensates for a lot of the issues, but I could tell when set on comfort we were losing the compliance provided by that spring.
Then started the research. Way back when I did the work on my XP1k and I posted the thread on it's suspension I used ED the Suspension Guy to set it up. I was very happy with his work and right after I bought this car I let him know I had it, he told me a set of springs would probably fix the vast majority of my complaints. I told him I would be in touch.
When it came time to jump, last March, I could not get him to respond ot text, call, PM or email. Ultimately, after over a month and a half of trying I gave up.
I went directly to Eibach and began looking at their offerings.
Eibach offers many spring kits and products for these machines. I don't fly the car (on purpose) and told the tech all the info I could about our riding style, where we ride. He gave me two options, the Stage 2 kit or the stage 3 kit.
I then spoke to Craig at Pro UTV parts.com.
Craig is a straight shooter, and drives these things, so he isn't just a salesman.
We had a hiccup with a part number, but that was worked out and he made it right. Ultimately, I chose to go with the Stage 2 kit. These kits come with 8 springs, spring sliders, and crossover nuts. Eibach makes you look up directions on their website, which is a pain in the ass.
You will need a spring compressor to get the rear new rear springs collapsed enough to get the cup back on. I recommend the Shankly unit sold on amazon.
Here are a couple more pics of the car with the new rears on.
The difference is pretty obvious.
From the back of the car...note that it is loaded, about 80 lbs in it. Eibach suggests 2.30ish inches of preload as a starting point to get back to the 16.5 inch ride height. It is set now at 2.75 inches of preload, and is at the 16.5 mark.
Just running around the property I can tell the compliance in comfort mode is back. We ride in comfort unless running fast in the dunes o flying across a desert trail, I bump it up to sport mode at that point. Will have to wait until we get out to ride again for a full review, but I expect good things. crossovers in rear and the front settings are at Eibach's suggestions.
A word of caution...if you have a 2020 Turbo S 4 seater the kits listed for the 18-19 cars will NOT fit your ride. Polaris changed the shock bodies on the rear and the crossovers and shock sliders will not fit. I suggest using Craig at Pro UTV to buy the Eibach kits, he has very good prices and will discount you below the price on his web site. Make dang sure you have the right part number kit for your car. Eibach's part numbering system is screwball as heck.
The bad news is that COVID has hit Eibach like everyone else.
Stage 3 kit for my car is backordred through July 27th, probably longer.
Craig just happened to have a Stage 2 kit in stock, I got lucky. If you are a SoCal type guy and planning to do this come fall, I would think about getting on the backorder list now. I suspect spring kits for the Can Ams are also backordered, plan ahead.
