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In a long awaited move, President Trump has signed an executive order mandating positive voter identification requirements in federal elections.


I linked an article from the Hindustan Times because it doesn't have the liberal bullshit talking points like American outlets do. It's pretty much straight up. Read an article about it from CNN or NBC and you'll see what I mean.

Here's the second paragraph in the NBC version:

The order — which also includes an array of other changes, from mail-in ballot deadlines to election equipment — could risk disenfranchising tens of millions of Americans. Election law experts questioned whether Trump had the authority to make the changes, saying the order is all but certain to be met with legal challenges.

Typical comments in other media outlets, this one from USA Today:

Voting-rights groups warn that voter identification requirements, long championed by Republicans, can make it harder for eligible seniors, minorities, low-income and students to vote.

"This executive order, if it could survive the inevitable judicial challenge, would severely shift power over federal elections into the hands of the Presidency," wrote UCLA law professor Rick Hasen on Election Law Blog. "This would prevent only a tiny amount of noncitizen voter registration but stop millions of eligible voters, who do not have easy access to documents such as passports from registering to vote."

Sophia Lin Lakin, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Voting Rights Project, slammed Trump's order as a "blatant overreach that threatens to disenfranchise tens of millions of eligible voters."

"This measure will no doubt disproportionately impact historically excluded communities, including voters of color, naturalized citizens, people with disabilities, and the elderly, by pushing unnecessary barriers to the fundamental right to vote," Lakin said.


It's always about minorities and "people of color," whom the Democrats have long asserted are apparently too stupid and lazy to have an ID. Why would "people with disabilities, and the elderly" be less likely to have an ID?

Complete fucktards.
 
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In a long awaited move, President Trump has signed an executive order mandating positive voter identification requirements in federal elections.


I linked an article from the Hindustan Times because it doesn't have the liberal bullshit talking points like American outlets do. It's pretty much straight up. Read an article about it from CNN or NBC and you'll see what I mean.

Here's the second paragraph in the NBC version:

The order — which also includes an array of other changes, from mail-in ballot deadlines to election equipment — could risk disenfranchising tens of millions of Americans. Election law experts questioned whether Trump had the authority to make the changes, saying the order is all but certain to be met with legal challenges.

Typical comments in other media outlets, this one from USA Today:

Voting-rights groups warn that voter identification requirements, long championed by Republicans, can make it harder for eligible seniors, minorities, low-income and students to vote.

"This executive order, if it could survive the inevitable judicial challenge, would severely shift power over federal elections into the hands of the Presidency," wrote UCLA law professor Rick Hasen on Election Law Blog. "This would prevent only a tiny amount of noncitizen voter registration but stop millions of eligible voters, who do not have easy access to documents such as passports from registering to vote."

Sophia Lin Lakin, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Voting Rights Project, slammed Trump's order as a "blatant overreach that threatens to disenfranchise tens of millions of eligible voters."

"This measure will no doubt disproportionately impact historically excluded communities, including voters of color, naturalized citizens, people with disabilities, and the elderly, by pushing unnecessary barriers to the fundamental right to vote," Lakin said.


It's always about minorities and "people of color," whom the Democrats have long asserted are apparently too stupid and lazy to have an ID. Why would "people with disabilities, and the elderly" be less likely to have an ID?

Complete fucktards.

Maybe they can take a few days off from protesting and burning teslas and get people to the dmv for ID.

But still, how does anyone exist without ID? Required for damn near anything unless you live under a rock and feed off the land. Even the DNC required ID to attend.
 

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One has needed a government issued ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote in Arizona on a federal election. Been that way for many past elections.

Not sure why anyone would object to it. 🤷

With respect to new voting systems, as long as it doesn’t become another unfunded federal mandate and regulation on the states, I’m not sure why anyone would object to that either. If the feds want to drop billions on modern voting systems, sounds like that could help state budgets. 👍
 

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One has needed a government issued ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote in Arizona on a federal election. Been that way for many past elections.

Not sure why anyone would object to it. 🤷

With respect to new voting systems, as long as it doesn’t become another unfunded federal mandate and regulation on the states, I’m not sure why anyone would object to that either. If the feds want to drop billions on modern voting systems, sounds like that could help state budgets. 👍
Great. So then you would have zero objection to have to provide that valid ID upon actually voting right?
 

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One has needed a government issued ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote in Arizona on a federal election. Been that way for many past elections.

Not sure why anyone would object to it. 🤷
See my post above. It's always the mantra about disenfranchising minorities, the poor, and elderly. It's voter supression. It's racist. We'll lose our democracy. Trump = Hitler. That illustrates the ignorance and foolishness of anyone who makes this assertion.

The Hitler/Nazi name-calling by the left is outrageous, and the below is an example why. I'll show you the depraved mindset of Hitler and his henchmen, and why anyone that equates Trump and the Republicans with Hitler and the Nazi regime is a lazy and ignorant fuck.

Once again, I'm going to force the inmates to learn history. Buck up and read this, you slobs. @spectras only knows this story, his family lived it.

During the early days of WWII, Hungary signed on as an ally to Nazi Germany. The country provided troops and goods supporting the invasion of Russia in June 1941, and took huge troop losses at Stalingrad between November 1942 and February 1943.

Because of this, Hungary was allowed by Hitler to shield the nation's Jewish citizens from deportation to the death camps during those years. But in late 1943, the Nazis discovered the Hungarian government was making secret peace overtures with the Allies. As a result, in March 1944, the Wehrmacht invaded the country, deposed the ruler, and installed a puppet government. At that time, there were approximately 750,000 Jews within its borders.

In Spring 1944, the German Army was being consumed by the combined forces of Russia, England, Canada, France, and the US. The two million strong June 6 D Day invasion of France was in the process of destroying the Wehrmacht's 7th Army Group. The Allies had already forced Germany''s Axis partner Italy out of the war, and were marching north towards Rome.

In March, Russia's Red Army had launched the huge Operation Bagration with 1.65 million troops, over 30,000 artillery pieces, and 6,000 tanks. The Wehrmacht's Army Group Center was being destroyed. The early July Battle of Kursk inflicted half a million casualties on the Germans.

During this three front destruction of the Wehrmacht, Nazi sadist and killer Adolf Eichmann was ordered to round up and deport the Hungarian Jews to the Auschwhitz-Birkenau concentration camp in Poland.

Consider the above situation facing the Wehrmacht. The German Army had suffered almost three million dead, missing, or injured soldiers in 1944. The Allies were in the process of bombing every major German city with daytime raids by the US Army Air Corps and nighttime attacks by the Royal Air Force. Supplies sent from Germany to the Eastern Front, France, and Italy required hundreds of daily freight trains, and many of them were being destroyed by low level attacks using US P-47 Thunderbolts and British Beaufighters. German citizens were living in bombed out rubble and hungry. German factories and synthetic oil production plants were also under attack by relentless bomber fleets.

With the certain destruction of the German Armed Forces ongoing and the country collapsing, between May 1 and July 15, 1944, Adolf Eichmann was instructed to commandeer manpower and freight train capacity for the purpose of moving Hungary's Jews to Auschwhitz-Birkenau.

In those ten weeks, 440,000 men, women and children were transported in packed cattle wagons to their deaths. Adolf Hitler decided it was more important to kill these innocents than use the trains to send desperately needed war tools to the millions of Wehrmacht troops facing annihilation in Europe.

That's what Hitler was capable of. The Einsatzgruppen killers that targeted Jewish Russian citizens had already murdered almost four million of their number since the Wehrmacht invasion in June 1941. Across Europe, many more millions of innocent civilians had already found death at the hands of the German Army and extermination squads.

By the May 1945 end of the war in Europe, more than 50 million people had died as a result of Nazi terror. That's why I make it clear that those who equate the President of the United States with Hitler and his regime are ignorant fools that know nothing of history.
 

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See my post above. It's always the mantra about disenfranchising minorities, the poor, and elderly. It's voter supression. It's racist. We'll lose our democracy. Trump = Hitler. That illustrates the ignorance and foolishness of anyone who makes this assertion.
It has historically been the Republicans that attempted to make voting more accessible to minorities, the poor and the elderly. It was historically the Democrats who wished to disenfranchise voters, not the Republicans.

 

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It has historically been the Republicans that attempted to make voting more accessible to minorities, the poor and the elderly. It was historically the Democrats who wished to disenfranchise voters, not the Republicans.

So you stand with the democrats which is always your position .
 

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"No problem at all"???🤷‍♂️

Then why do you object to AZ voters showing and presenting a Valid ID to vote in Federal elections?
I don't have a problem at all with it.

It is a requirement today.
 

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I don't have a problem at all with it.

It is a requirement today.

An AZ requirement for voters to actually present a valid ID at the time and place they vote........or an ID requirement to simply register to vote? There is a big difference.....Please clarify the AZ requirement that you have no problem with.
 

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An AZ requirement for voters to actually present a valid ID at the time and place they vote........or an ID requirement to simply register to vote? There is a big difference.....Please clarify the AZ requirement.
One can not vote unless they register.

They may not register for federal elections unless they present proof of US Citizenship.

Been that way for years.
 

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One can not vote unless they register.

They may not register for federal elections unless they present proof of US Citizenship.

Been that way for years.

and anyone can vote for someone else w/o presenting an ID at the time they vote.....yes, been that way for years in AZ......why not show an ID at the time you cast your ballot....what is wrong with that simple task that helps secure honest elections?
 

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and anyone can vote for someone else w/o presenting an ID at the time they vote.....yes, been that way for years in AZ......why not show an ID at the time you cast your ballot....what is wrong with that simple task that helps secure honest elections?
We had to here in California until obama was running for his 2nd term, ever since then no ID required
 

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and anyone can vote for someone else w/o presenting an ID at the time they vote.....yes, been that way for years in AZ......why not show an ID at the time you cast your ballot....what is wrong with that simple task that helps secure honest elections?
LOL


With respect to your view that you could walk into a voting place and state you are my name and vote in my stead, as has been repeatedly demonstrated you are once again flat out lying.

So once again, here is the statute.

Every voter is required to show proof of idenity when voting in person. After arriving to the polls to vote on Election Day, Arizona law requires voters to state your name and place of residence to a poll worker and present one form of identification from List #1, or two different forms of identification from List #2 or #3. (A.R.S. § 16-579)

Valid identification is also required prior to receiving a ballot at any in-person early voting location or emergency voting location or from a special election board. A.R.S. § 16-542; § 16-549
 

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LOL


With respect to your view that you could walk into a voting place and state you are my name and vote in my stead, as has been repeatedly demonstrated you are once again flat out lying.

So once again, here is the statute.

Every voter is required to show proof of idenity when voting in person. After arriving to the polls to vote on Election Day, Arizona law requires voters to state your name and place of residence to a poll worker and present one form of identification from List #1, or two different forms of identification from List #2 or #3. (A.R.S. § 16-579)

Valid identification is also required prior to receiving a ballot at any in-person early voting location or emergency voting location or from a special election board. A.R.S. § 16-542; § 16-549
Not in California
 

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LOL


With respect to your view that you could walk into a voting place and state you are my name and vote in my stead, as has been repeatedly demonstrated you are once again flat out lying.

So once again, here is the statute.

Every voter is required to show proof of idenity when voting in person. After arriving to the polls to vote on Election Day, Arizona law requires voters to state your name and place of residence to a poll worker and present one form of identification from List #1, or two different forms of identification from List #2 or #3. (A.R.S. § 16-579)

Valid identification is also required prior to receiving a ballot at any in-person early voting location or emergency voting location or from a special election board. A.R.S. § 16-542; § 16-549

Thank you for that, if AZ voters are required to present an ID at the time they cast their vote in Fed elections, I stand corrected. .....now let's talk "Mail in ballots"....what you got?

More than 75% of voters use early ballots. Every AZ House Republican voted to take that away.​

 

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Thank you for that, if AZ voters are required to present an ID at the time they cast their vote in Fed elections, I stand corrected. .....now let's talk "Mail in ballots"....what you got?
See article in post 14.

It explains the history of mail in voting, who championed it, and how it is used.

To the extent the legislature would like to change it, they have majorities and may do so per the state constitution.
 

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See article in post 14.

It explains the history of mail in voting, who championed it, and how it is used.

To the extent the legislature would like to change it, they have majorities and may do so per the state constitution.
Your posted article is dated June 2022.....

Let's look were AZ is March 2024. It does appears AZ Republicans have changed their position on this.....have you?

More than 75% of voters use early ballots. Every AZ House Republican voted to take that away.


Do you support this bill?
 
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You posted article is dated June 2022.....

Let's look were AZ is March 2024.

More than 75% of voters use early ballots. Every AZ House Republican voted to take that away.​

LOL

If the legislature with Republican majorities in both chambers would like to pass a change to the voting law, they had the power to do so then and have the power to do so now.

If the 75% of people who use the PEVL don't like that, they can certainly make that feeling known at the next election or alternatively, support such a change

That is how it is supposed to work.

I get it, there is a conspiracy theory like you posted in #21 above around every corner in your mind. There is no solution that can solve your problems.
 

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LOL

If the legislature with Republican majorities in both chambers would like to pass a change to the voting law, they had the power to do so then and have the power to do so now.

If the 75% of people who use the PEVL don't like that, they can certainly make that feeling known at the next election or alternatively, support such a change

That is how it is supposed to work.

I get it, there is a conspiracy theory like you posted in #21 above around every corner in your mind. There is no solution that can solve your problems.
Why is this funny to you? And why did you not mention this bill in your post #14 🤷‍♂️

You did not answer the simple question....Do you support HOUSE BILL 2876?
 

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I have and always will support the laws of this country and of all states.
As you are avoiding my simple question like the "plague", I will take that as a solid NO..... You do not support the passage of AZ HOUSE BILL 2876.

Every AZ House Republican voted to support and pass it...​

Why not stand with your fellow Republicans? 🤷‍♂️
 
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The commies were enforcing voter ID laws in Hungary [ I'm sure the same went for the other commie satellite countries ] while I lived there.until 1970 Only difference was back then, voting was mandatory, and punishable, if you didn't go to the polls,haha. Also, all the candidates on the ballots to choose from, were communist, part of goverment.;) See, there never was welfare or unemployementt in Hungary, everybody had to have a job, unless you were an invalid. :p
 
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