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Quick question.

I need to know the width of my trailer, for a garage door issue.
(Trailer's not at my house right now)

I think it's 102" off the top of my head.
Anyone have a standard little trailer like this for a 18ft jet?

Thank you
FT
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I have a 20.5 on a dual axle.....I have an 8' door in the back of my garage and the fatness of the tires baaaaaarely won't make it through.....if that helps.
 

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Used to be under 102”. Over 109 was by permit but never got questioned in reality.
 

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My last 21 footer was 103.5" to the outside of the fenders. That was back in the day of Wide Oval tires and fenders to cover them.
 

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The flat bottom trailers are 96" (my Dad used to build these and I just confirmed with him, the Daycruiser on the right trailer is 102". it doesn't look like you have too much space between those fenders I would guess you are at 96"
 

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21’ competitive trailer here at 102. That looks like a 18’ competitive c channel.
 

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The flat bottom trailers are 96" (my Dad used to build these and I just confirmed with him, the Daycruiser on the right trailer is 102". it doesn't look like you have too much space between those fenders I would guess you are at 96"
My flat is probably 96 also but the tire sidewalls ballon out so I measure 99 in terms of what it would take to get it through an opening..
 

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My last 21 footer was 103.5" to the outside of the fenders. That was back in the day of Wide Oval tires and fenders to cover them.
Lol! Wide Ovals with Raised White letters, F60x 14😆👍
 

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Thank you all for the input.

I'm looking to possibly put a garage door on a 11' wide rear garage wall.
In order to make the boat deep stall a "drive thru" to the back yard.
I believe I will need a 9'x7' garage door to fit the boat thru.

Does anyone know if that size door will work on an wall that is 11' wide?
Or will wall modifications need to be made?

I'd rather not get the city involved with permits & shit. Even know this is an HOA neighborhood.
But one step at a time..

Any opinions?

Thank you
FT
 

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Thank you all for the input.

I'm looking to possibly put a garage door on a 11' wide rear garage wall.
In order to make the boat deep stall a "drive thru" to the back yard.
I believe I will need a 9'x7' garage door to fit the boat thru.

Does anyone know if that size door will work on an wall that is 11' wide?
Or will wall modifications need to be made?

I'd rather not get the city involved with permits & shit. Even know this is an HOA neighborhood.
But one step at a time..

Any opinions?

Thank you
FT
Easy if the walk is not load bearing… totally depends on the load and roof… post a pic of the building
 

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The competitive trailer holding my 20.5 eliminator sport cruiser is 100" tire to tire. Fender to fender is 87".
Hope this helps.
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Thank you all for the input.

I'm looking to possibly put a garage door on a 11' wide rear garage wall.
In order to make the boat deep stall a "drive thru" to the back yard.
I believe I will need a 9'x7' garage door to fit the boat thru.

Does anyone know if that size door will work on an wall that is 11' wide?
Or will wall modifications need to be made?

I'd rather not get the city involved with permits & shit. Even know this is an HOA neighborhood.
But one step at a time..

Any opinions?

Thank you
FT
It’s time to convert that to a road dolly trailer.

 

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I do like those and could use a new trailer.
But
I thought those things were unsafe on the fwy and someone done fucked up a nice boat a few years back with one.
You have a tunnel hull right? I think it would probably handle squirrely issues better than a v-bottom. nothing is fool proof, but I get what you’re saying.

Have you already moved?
 

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You have a tunnel hull right? I think it would probably handle squirrely issues better than a v-bottom. nothing is fool proof, but I get what you’re saying.

Have you already moved?
No.
Not untill next year.
But I'd like to know this idea will work.
 

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No.
Not untill next year.
But I'd like to know this idea will work.
Is the house already built? If not I'd get it engineered. That was is load bearing, it could be done, but there will need to be a pretty large beam placed there, meaning the opening probably will not be very tall. Also the line set for the AC is coming out right there, would this be the case for your house as well?
 

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Thank you all for the input.

I'm looking to possibly put a garage door on a 11' wide rear garage wall.
In order to make the boat deep stall a "drive thru" to the back yard.
I believe I will need a 9'x7' garage door to fit the boat thru.

Does anyone know if that size door will work on an wall that is 11' wide?
Or will wall modifications need to be made?

I'd rather not get the city involved with permits & shit. Even know this is an HOA neighborhood.
But one step at a time..

Any opinions?

Thank you
FT
Like it or not, your home was approved in the developers plans for the tract by your municipality for an as engineered condition. Changes to that approved architecture/structure will require pemittage.
Good news is that with 1 ft on each side you should be able to get a modification to add burly posts and a sufficient 8x6 or 10x6 across them. Good luck.

After you close, you COULD sneak one by unpermitted, if your neighbors aren't snitches and you have the cajones to engineer it yourself. Not sure if you are quite that devious/motivated against your municipality.
 

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Is the house already built? If not I'd get it engineered. That was is load bearing, it could be done, but there will need to be a pretty large beam placed there, meaning the opening probably will not be very tall. Also the line set for the AC is coming out right there, would this be the case for your house as well?


They said the framing is done.

The seller lady for the development says that "others have done it and it will be "no problem".

I think she's full of shit!

And
I will need to move the AC Condenser after its built.

I don't want this to turn into a cluster fuck.
But
Is that where it's headed?

NOTE:
It doesn't sound like the builder will adjust anything to do with the construction.
Everything will have to be done after the fact.
 

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Looks load bearing to me… engineering required.
Agreed. All tail ends of the trusses sit on the back wall. You will need at least a beam at the header and vertical supports. You might be able to get away with supports on the sides to keep the opening as wide as possible. The challenge will be the door and mounting without much legs coming off the back on both sides. Good luck with the project.

Are you doing this to be able to get your boat in the pool for an awesome RDP party?
 

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Question:
What could happen if I paid some cat to do it real quiet like, without permits?

How could it come back to bite me?
 

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Agreed. All tail ends of the trusses sit on the back wall. You will need at least a beam at the header and vertical supports. You might be able to get away with supports on the sides to keep the opening as wide as possible. The challenge will be the door and mounting without much legs coming off the back on both sides. Good luck with the project.

Are you doing this to be able to get your boat in the pool for an awesome RDP party?

What about 20 or 30 plastic white trash pools from Walmart?😁
 

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They said the framing is done.

The seller lady for the development says that "others have done it and it will be "no problem".

I think she's full of shit!

And
I will need to move the AC Condenser after its built.

I don't want this to turn into a cluster fuck.
But
Is that where it's headed?

NOTE:
It doesn't sound like the builder will adjust anything to do with the construction.
Everything will have to be done after the fact.
With this latest bit of info….

I would not believe anything a sales person is saying.
A/C move is possible but might require electrical and opening up walls unless you want exposed conduit.
I’d talk to someone higher up with the builder to confirm structure is

If you don’t want a cluster fuck I’d pay the $$$$ and get it engineered and permitted. It will give you peace of mind if you ever have to sell it. The city is really easy to work with on this type of work. Just just have to get it drawn up and engineered. If you need a hand with that let me know. Our son did that for our RV garage. 👍
 

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While it's in framing now is the time to do it. I can't imagine why the builder would refuse to do it. It's a change order, it happens all the time. Moving the line set and power all right now is the best way to approach it. Ripping out drywall or even worse stucco, will cost way more later than engineered and permitted before its closed up.
 

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If you want to go rogue, then get a load bearing girder truss engineered to place at the ceiling height to maximize the height of the opening. It would be completely concealed where the osb is now… then have them continue as planned and finish the wall with stucco etc…. Bust out the sawsall once the final is complete and install your door.

That how I would do it regardless versus putting in wood beams that drop down into the space.
 

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If you want to go rogue, then get a load bearing girder truss engineered to place at the ceiling height to maximize the height of the opening. It would be completely concealed where the osb is now… then have them continue as planned and finish the wall with stucco etc…. Bust out the sawsall once the final is complete and install your door.

That how I would do it regardless versus putting in wood beams that drop down into the space.
That's actually a really good idea, I was starting to think steel beam to keep the ceiling height taller.
 

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I do not believe you have the trust level that would allow you to trust a shady character to implement the engineering. if you do, there is mixed messaging about one class of people vs another....

anyway...

post facto, you COULD engineer your own support just inside and intimate with the outside wall after you close on the property. use jacks to put the posts and beam in place under the stringers, release the jacks, then open the hole in the wall to remove the old outside wall.

finish the opening to conceal or properly dress the new structure.

moving the A/C piping may not be that hard either. move to the adjacent corner.

and PRAY your neighbors are not snitches,
 
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At my folks place when I was a kid, we had a front garage that we drove thru to get to the back garages, the back door was too small to get a boat trailer thru, my Dad cut the door jams just above fender height, he put a couple bolts in and when it was river time we unbolted the jams pulled the boat out and then put the wall back together
 
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At my folks place when I was a kid, we had a front garage that we drove thru to get to the back garages, the back door was too small to get a boat trailer thru, my Dad cut the door jams just above fender height, he put a couple bolts in and when it was river time we unbolted the jams pulled to boat out and then out the wall back together :)
Genius!
 
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