This is Not Good

[regor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1872739974787011023

 

[DILLIGAF]

Ya...that looks like murder to me

 

[regor]

Ya...that looks like murder to me

Gunna be some LEO going and rightfully so.

 

[4Waters]

WTF is wrong with people

 

[Backlash]

Damn.

 

[monkeyswrench]

WTF is wrong with people

A lot, apparently...

 

[FROGMAN524]

Wow. Just terrible. The race baiters are going to go nuts with this one.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

This will probably get ugly..

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Wow. Just terrible. The race baiters are going to go nuts with this one.

Absolutely....

 

[riverroyal]

I've worked inside a fed prison for over a year. As a construction contractor.
The only thing unique in this instance is the camera was ON.
Correctional officers are not 'normal'. It took about 6 months before our escort team started to talk. I've seen some things and heard many stories.
I didn't watch the video, I've seen it live.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

There are people that make amazing cops and there are a few that should never be cops. I'm pretty conservative, but at the end of the day if there is no threat to the officers, they should be deescalating situations. I see so many videos where cops push a power position on people just trying to live their lives that it's ridiculous.

My brother was the cop that would pull over a drunk driver and throw him in the back of the car and take him home. When there was a guy barricaded in his home and the sergeant wanted to get swat over and make a huge ordeal of it, he would call the guy, talk to him like a man, explain the situation and what was going to happen and talk him into a future and not a beat down. Everyone has a bad day and everyone makes mistakes. These moments shouldn't be the end of our lives. One the other side, there are some crazy messed up people on drugs out there that are going to take it to extremes and they will need that extreme. We just need more cops with common sense and not a bunch of guys that got beat up in high school trying to get back at the world.

 

[badgas]

There are people that make amazing cops and there are a few that should never be cops. I'm pretty conservative, but at the end of the day if there is no threat to the officers, they should be deescalating situations. I see so many videos where cops push a power position on people just trying to live their lives that it's ridiculous.

My brother was the cop that would pull over a drunk driver and throw him in the back of the car and take him home. When there was a guy barricaded in his home and the sergeant wanted to get swat over and make a huge ordeal of it, he would call the guy, talk to him like a man, explain the situation and what was going to happen and talk him into a future and not a beat down. Everyone has a bad day and everyone makes mistakes. These moments shouldn't be the end of our lives. One the other side, there are some crazy messed up people on drugs out there that are going to take it to extremes and they will need that extreme. We just need more cops with common sense and not a bunch of guys that got beat up in high school trying to get back at the world.

Well said

We have so many good men and women who are LEOs

These guys are NOT on that list

 

[4Waters]

 

[4Waters]

Really odd this happened 3 weeks before Trump takes office

 

[Desert Whaler]

I haven't watched it . . . trying to limit my 'Buzzkill Viewings' thesd days.
What's odd to me is that I'm assuming most if not all the correctional officers are wearing boddy cams and yet this still happened.
Makes you wonder if incidents like this, albeit less severe happen frequently as @riverroyal pointed out . . . and it's just a day-to-day occurrence . . . maybe they get a 'talking to' from a supervisor and nothing more . . . and this time it got way out of hand.
Do they/ can they just delete memory cards on those body cams?

I remember many years ago (30+) hearing (a rumor) that the OC Sheriffs Patrol Boat Operators were made up of veteran officers who had worked in the local jails for a long time. It was sort of a 'going away position' before they retired. I have nothing to back the story up, but I can say that back then the LAST person you wanted to get pulled over in the harbor by was the OC Sheriff's . . . they were BRUTAL.

One time I was maybe 10 years old . . . my Dad and I were heading out of Huntington Harbor to go fishing.
We get pulled over by the OC Sheriff Boat and they're checking us for all the safety gear.
One of the officers asks to see the life jackets . . . my Dad hands him one that's still in the original clear plastic bag.
The officer looks at it and says, 'This one's no good" . . . my dad replies, "It's brand new"! . . . . the officer pulls out a Buck 110 slices a gash in it and says, "It's got a hole in it" . . . and throws it back to my Dad . . . he wrote us up for faulty safety equipment or something like that.
Total dick move to pull, especially on a Father/Son fishing trip.

I remember my Pops went to court over it . . . he told the judge what had happened, and he threw out the case. He said the judge was pissed at the story and told the officer he wanted to speak with him afterwards.

Needless to say . . . I don't f-around with OC Sheriff's Patrol Boats !

 

[kurtis500]

Interesting. I worked 10 of my years for Phoenix Fire downtown and ran 911 calls to the jails and homeless shelter DAILY, Never saw someone treated like that and we never did even if they resisted and fought. I did punch a guy spitting on me and another trying to bit my hand.. but when you can push the head away and put a mask over the face thats the way to go. Not sure what happened here...best to hear the full story but fighting a restrained person when you can just keep them restrained seems a bit much. however, sometimes you do have to fight to restrain them.. A fine line I guess and its why LEO gets asked to leave the room so the cameras dont record only a slice of the incident.

 

[regor]

Interesting. I worked 10 of my years for Phoenix Fire downtown and ran 911 calls to the jails and homeless shelter DAILY, Never saw someone treated like that and we never did even if they resisted and fought. I did punch a guy spitting on me and another trying to bit my hand.. but when you can push the head away and put a mask over the face thats the way to go. Not sure what happened here...best to hear the full story but fighting a restrained person when you can just keep them restrained seems a bit much. however, sometimes you do have to fight to restrain them.. A fine line I guess and its why LEO gets asked to leave the room so the cameras dont record only a slice of the incident.

Regardless of the “full tape” there’s no justification for these clowns.

14 suspended without pay and one has already resigned. That is the least of their problems at this point.

I hope they are dealt with swiftly to avoid anymore nonsense from the burn and loot crowd.

 

[kurtis500]

Regardless of the “full tape” there’s no justification for these clowns.

14 suspended without pay and one has already resigned. That is the least of their problems at this point.

I hope they are dealt with swiftly to avoid anymore nonsense from the burn and loot crowd.

no, the full tape needs to be viewed. There’s a reason they did that and unless you know why we should find out. Doesn’t make it right but the context here is zero, just detention officers beating on a restrained person. Releasing this clip only serves to inflame and makes everyone assume this is a common/daily occurrence and only stopped by viewing body cam footage then getting caught.

 

[4Waters]

no, the full tape needs to be viewed. There’s a reason they did that and unless you know why we should find out. Doesn’t make it right but the context here is zero, just detention officers beating on a restrained person. Releasing this clip only serves to inflame and makes everyone assume this is a common/daily occurrence.

^^^this^^^

 

[DLC]

There should be video in every room hallway on the ceiling looking down!

Depot Lowe’s Walmart etc all have it….

If the perp is being a D bag the vid is there, if the cop gets excited & carried away the vid is there

 

[regor]

no, the full tape needs to be viewed. There’s a reason they did that and unless you know why we should find out. Doesn’t make it right but the context here is zero, just detention officers beating on a restrained person. Releasing this clip only serves to inflame and makes everyone assume this is a common/daily occurrence and only stopped by viewing body cam footage then getting caught.

Agree with the full tape and I’m imagine the guy was a POS who most likely assaulted an officer(s), but there is NO justification for their actions.

You want a piece of that scumbag, then mono y mono with no cuffs and that’ll fly, but for God’s sake, make sure there are no cameras.

 

[kurtis500]

There should be video in every room hallway on the ceiling looking down!

Depot Lowe’s Walmart etc all have it….

If the perp is being a D bag the vid is there, if the cop gets excited & carried away the vid is there

Not sure about this jail but Maricopa county has cameras crossing in all areas. It may be standard around the country, don’t know. They released body cam footage and nothing else. If the government did this THEY are pushing a narrative without context. Maybe a media leak? The media does subpoena emails and etc regularly to sift through them for news worthy stuff.

 

[kurtis500]

Agree with the full tape and I’m imagine the guy was a POS who most likely assaulted an officer(s), but there is NO justification for their actions.

You want a piece of that scumbag, then mono y mono with no cuffs and that’ll fly, but for God’s sake, make sure there are no cameras.

Again, no context. The restrained guy may be completely high and out of his mind on drugs. He was taking punches and not complying while restrained. I’d bet he has something on board.

The NY DA is stoking the flames here and needs to act like an adult. The partial film they chose to release does just that. Rarely do people die from punches like these so there’s probably more to his death.

 

[Taboma]

Anybody desiring more content can view either excerpts or full videos from various officers body cams here -----

Investigation into the death of Robert Brooks

Investigation into the death of Robert Brooks Back to camera footage and release policy OSI is currently conducting an investigation into the death of Robert

ag.ny.gov

 

[regor]

Again, no context. The restrained guy may be completely high and out of his mind on drugs. He was taking punches and not complying while restrained. I’d bet he has something on board.

The NY DA is stoking the flames here and needs to act like an adult. The partial film they chose to release does just that. Rarely do people die from punches like these so there’s probably more to his death.

He died from asphyxiation due to a boot on his neck, not punches.

Full tape fine, no excuse regardless.

 

[SoCalDave]

Was thee any audio in that clip?
I didn't hear anything...

 

[kurtis500]

He died from asphyxiation due to a boot on his neck, not punches.

Full tape fine, no excuse regardless.

was someone making excuses?

you posted the video, did I miss the boot on the neck part?

 

[Taboma]

was someone making excuses?

you posted the video, did I miss the boot on the neck part?

As I posted previously, here's video excerpts as well as full (Although all have possible redactions due to nudity etc) from each officers cams.

Investigation into the death of Robert Brooks

Investigation into the death of Robert Brooks Back to camera footage and release policy OSI is currently conducting an investigation into the death of Robert

ag.ny.gov

 

[regor]

was someone making excuses?

you posted the video, did I miss the boot on the neck part?

Not directing an excuse by you.

 

[rrrr]

no, the full tape needs to be viewed. There’s a reason they did that and unless you know why we should find out. Doesn’t make it right but the context here is zero, just detention officers beating on a restrained person. Releasing this clip only serves to inflame and makes everyone assume this is a common/daily occurrence and only stopped by viewing body cam footage then getting caught.

I don't doubt for a second the inmate was violent and significant force was needed to subdue him. But half a dozen COs slamming around a person that's already been beaten into unconsciousness is an egregious violation of ethics that's never excusable. Period.

If you've followed the posts I make about crime, rogue district attorneys, the Chief Shitbag Biden, the harm that illegal aliens and DEI have done to our country, the destruction of generations of youths because of leftist educators, and a long list of other things, it's apparent where I stand on the spectrum of what's right and wrong.

This is wrong. George Floyd wasn't murdered. It certainly appears this guy was.

The job COs perform exposes them to the worst shitbags on the planet. Just a few days ago, Ellis County CO Isaiah Bias was murdered, brutally beaten to death. He was 28 years old. Ellis County is just south of Dallas County.

We don't hear too much about these men and women and their tragic murders. But they are exposed to the possibility of violent injury and death every day.

Fallen Officer Directory • Correctional Peace Officers Foundation

The CPOF preserves the stories of correctional peace officers who havemade the ultimate sacrifice while carrying out their professions.

cpof.org

 

[Albert]

Prison will be fun for them

 

[Orange Juice]

Their out in 5.5 years, and make a quick $1M off the rights to the book and tv series. The world is a better place.

 

[kurtis500]

I don't doubt for a second the inmate was violent and significant force was needed to subdue him. But half a dozen COs slamming around a person that's already been beaten into unconsciousness is an egregious violation of ethics that's never excusable. Period.

What did you read from my comments that you needed to quote me then tell me this?

 

[FROGMAN524]

 

[rrrr]

What did you read from my comments that you needed to quote me then tell me this?

That context in any video and seeing the entire clip is important, as you said. I noted that we didn't see why the COs jacked him up to begin with.

My objections to their actions starts when I see the inmate is unconscious yet they're still beating on him. It didn't look like they scored any lethal hits, so we're left to wonder if he died because of something that happened prior to the part of the video we viewed, and how far the COs went over the line.

So I didn't have any objection to what you posted. I agreed with your statement, and expanded on that with my comments.