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If you don’t know about dogs.. don’t own a dog that can cause harm.. rotweiler / Shepard / even labs etc

so should that family in the article not have been allowed to own those dogs?

or did they just need to learn / study more on how to not get attacked / killed by their dogs?
 
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Well if you are going to tell the story, don’t just tell half of it.. original pit bulls like the ones you described only weighed about 25 lbs..

The 50-60 lb dogs of today were bread to be larger to run along side covered wagon trains.. Their job was to protect the children by fights by off mountain lions bobcats, bears etc..

So there’s that..
only breed of dog that was breed specifically to not bite humans..

Being that just about anything falls under the category “pit bull” it isn’t hard to understand the statistics..

Weirdly it was americas favorite dog not that long ago.. commonly used around children.

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I’m neither anti or pro defendant of the breed as I’ve experienced many over the years.
Some were every every negative stereotype we’ve ever heard.

Been around others that are just fine.
My previous red Doberman female and I met a guy down the street with a blue nose female about the same age as mine.
About 2-2/12 years old and mine was not spayed.

Did the usual dog hanshake butt sniffing and all seemed fine.
Got out to the fields at the end of the street and hoped for the best as we unleashed them.

They instantly went right back to the dog hanshake thing and in about 2 seconds the blue nose rolled and gave her belly.
She had not a mean bone in her body.
They ran as a team against the rabbits and squirrels scattering around like they’done it a thousand times.
With I had it on film. Truest an awesome sight.
 

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so should that family in the article not have been allowed to own those dogs?

or did they just need to learn / study more on how to not get attacked / killed by their dogs?

Right?
 

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We have a Staffordshire Bull Terrier and he’s a loving family dog but I won’t trust his ass around any other dog. He would fight with our Queensland Heeler and finally had to give one up for adoption. We’re now stuck as a one dog home until Fritz passes away. See him attack coyotes in our backyard. Dipshit is fearless..it may cost him someday…
 

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These guys are worth mentioning here.
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This guy is worth mentione here too.
That’s Dave D
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Know the guy since the 1st grade.
Last year his new girls pitbull latched onto his gals arm hard.
Dave’s intent was to get the dog to let go and he was successful in that.
Then the dog went at him.

200+ stitches in his face.
 

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I will say she wasn't the most trustworthy dog. I never had an issue with her but if she didn't know you or trust you she would sit in the corner and watch every move you made. Never bit anyone though because I would tell people to just ignore her and let her do her thing.

I don't visit friends whose dogs make me uncomfortable.
 

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Been there done that except my 3 year old lived after nearly succumbing in the life flight, then 7 days in ICU. My wife saved him and got in the middle of it.

Not the call you want to get when at a business dinner in San Diego, wife screaming and the helo blades thumping in the background.
 

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Cant beat a golden , especially if your a boater.
My mom has had 4 over the years and all were great dogs👍
Known several others.
Most are real charmers.




However.

As a kid a family in the neighborhood had one that went after me unprovoked at least 3 times.
Was a known cat killer if he broke free of their yard.

Went after this kid named Kent one time and bit him square in the ass as the kid ran.
Put 4 holes and a scuff on his right ass cheek.
They used to give me a few bucks to go feed him when they went to the river.
(That was always an interesting evening)

They wouldn’t take him with because Rusty was an asshole.
No one knows why.
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Those are some tough statistics to justify PitBull ownership, is there any homeowners insurance that covers PitBulls? My last 2 trips to the vet have been pitbull bites, the dogs were not overly aggressive, but their bites cause more damage than a normal dog bite from a minor scuffle. I never understood the allure of the breed, pitbulls have to be watched closely, my Golden retrieves pasties in the channel. No offense to any pitbull owners, but that is some serious liability you open yourself up to with aggressive breeds.
 

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These guys are worth mentioning here.
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This guy is worth mentione here too.
That’s Dave D
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Know the guy since the 1st grade.
Last year his new girls pitbull latched onto his gals arm hard.
Dave’s intent was to get the dog to let go and he was successful in that.
Then the dog went at him.

200+ stitches in his face.

They’re really just misunderstood…
 

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My mom has had 4 over the years and all were great dogs👍
Known several others.
Most are real charmers.




However.

As a kid a family in the neighborhood had one that went after me unprovoked at least 3 times.
Was a known cat killer if he broke free of their yard.

Went after this kid named Kent one time and bit him square in the ass as the kid ran.
Put 4 holes and a scuff on his right ass cheek.
They used to give me a few bucks to go feed him when they went to the river.
(That was always an interesting evening)

They wouldn’t take him with because Rusty was an asshole.
No one knows why.
🤷‍♂️

Cuz they named him rusty.
 

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so should that family in the article not have been allowed to own those dogs?

or did they just need to learn / study more on how to not get attacked / killed by their dogs?

I am saying if you don’t know about dogs you shouldn’t own a powerful breed..

Does it matter if it’s a Shepard a lab or just that it was called a putbull?
 

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I am saying if you don’t know about dogs you shouldn’t own a powerful breed..

Does it matter if it’s a Shepard a lab or just that it was called a putbull?

Tell it to the homeowners carrier.
It absolutely matters to them.

Bottom line, it does not matter what you think, what I think, or what happens.
If you own a dangerous breed, primarily a pit bull or anything that resembles a “pit bull” and something happens involving that dog you will lose everything.
There is no court, no judge, no insurance carrier that will be on your side.
Period.
You will be vilified, you will be at fault, and no one and nothing will defend you.
You will be added to the long list of pit bull related stats and everything you and your family has built will disappear.
All because you refuse to believe that a dangerous breed is a dangerous breed for a reason.
 
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They’re really just misunderstood…
I never met the dog that did that to Dave D
I couldn’t say.
I’ve met some that were fine dogs. Didn’t want to be boss. Just wanted to be around.🤷‍♂️

Years ago working at Lavey Craft there was an auto garage directly across the street.
2 pitbull locked inside all night.
Let out in the morning to stretch their legs and pee on stuff.
Which?
Happens to coincide with my arrival at work.
Getting out of the truck both dogs are staring and making the slow move my way.

I took the gamble of full force confrontation.
Pretty much yelling at them and posturing to bring it.
You’re going to bite me for sure!
But I’m going to kill you!

They never made the move.
 

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I never met the dog that did that to Dave D
I couldn’t say.
I’ve met some that were fine dogs. Didn’t want to be boss. Just wanted to be around.🤷‍♂️

Years ago working at Lavey Craft there was an auto garage directly across the street.
2 pitbull locked inside all night.
Let out in the morning to stretch their legs and pee on stuff.
Which?
Happens to coincide with my arrival at work.
Getting out of the truck both dogs are staring and making the slow move my way.

I took the gamble of full force confrontation.
Pretty much yelling at them and posturing to bring it.
You’re going to bite me for sure!
But I’m going to kill you!

They never made the move.

I knew the dog that killed my friends grandson.
The son and dog owner raised the dog to be vicious. The dog was all cropped, scary mean, spiked collar and the works.
I also knew another friends dog “Brutus” that tipped in well over 100 pounds and was just fucking evil. Brutus met his demise by lethal injection after he went through the screen door of my buddy’s house and drug a German Shepard out of a pick up truck bed and killed him on the spot.
There are evil wicked pits and there are pussy mild pits. Sadly the courts and insurance companies see no difference.

On a side note, Brutus was really a one of a kind beast.
He never made a sound. He’d just look at you like “hmmm, I guess I’ll let you live today, just dont fucking piss me off…”
His owner was a real treat.
We’d buy weed and coke from him. His claim to fame was being the “banana bandit” in Anchorage. He went on a crack fueled robbery spree one night using a banana in his pocket to resemble a gun. Randy Baldwin.
He was our good friend from high school.
He got in real trouble when he padlocked his stripper girlfriend in his airstream trailer while he went of robbery sprees.
She was a 10 and double hot.
It was kind of sad when Brutus got put down, he outweighed the girlfriend by at least 20 pounds and really didn’t give 2 shits about anyone around him until it was time to care.
Then god help you.
 
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Last December I was having dinner at a neighbors, after dinner I was petting their dog a 130lb Bull Mastiff. He lunged at me and latched on to my face for like 5-10 seconds while growling as I was laying on my back. He pulled a piece of skin off my chin, had emergency surgery shortly after. Now,I lost feeling in my chin. His kitchen looked like a murder scene.. My Doctor said I was lucky he didn't get to my main arteries in my neck. The dog was put down the following day. I took @Tooms22 advice on how to handle the situation, thank you Tooms. Bad situation all around. But the thing I learned the most about my incident is most everyone has a dog bite experience. I myself would never own an aggressive dog whatsoever. Rest in peace to the little ones that lost their lives.
 

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Last December I was having dinner at a neighbors, after dinner I was petting their dog a 130lb Bull Mastiff. He lunged at me and latched on to my face for like 5-10 seconds while growling as I was laying on my back. He pulled a piece of skin off my chin, had emergency surgery shortly after. Now,I lost feeling in my chin. His kitchen looked like a murder scene.. My Doctor said I was lucky he didn't get to my main arteries in my neck. The dog was put down the following day. I took @Tooms22 advice on how to handle the situation, thank you Tooms. Bad situation all around. But the thing I learned the most about my incident is most everyone has a dog bite experience. I myself would never own an aggressive dog whatsoever. Rest in peace to the little ones that lost their lives.

I have a past coworker that has/ had 2 mastiffs.
He instructed us that whenever we came on his property (near rifle co) that we were to remain in our cars until he put the dogs away.
He had no illusions about his dogs.
He told us point blank to never get out of our cars if he was not there beside the car.
Those dogs would flat out fuck us up and he knew it.
 

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There was a golden retriever that lived in the keys.. nicest dog ever. He’d swim through the canals and roam the entire community. Play with the kids..

One day a guy was driving in a golf cart and that golden snapped.. mauled the shit out of him.

Dogs are dogs..

Awhile back there was some small dog that nibbled all the fibers and toes off a baby.

All dogs have the capacity for harm
 

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I have a past coworker that has/ had 2 mastiffs.
He instructed us that whenever we came on his property (near rifle co) that we were to remain in our cars until he put the dogs away.
He had no illusions about his dogs.
He told us point blank to never get out of our cars if he was not there beside the car.
Those dogs would flat out fuck us up and he knew it.

Yeah you don't a Mastiff to latch on to you. They have a biting for force 2 to 3 times more than a Pitbull.
 

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This little shithead dog will attack any dog no matter the size, even on the tv, full attack mode, we went to multiple trainers, never could break him of that, loves people just hates other dogs, Thankfully when he attacks bigger dogs they usually just look at him like wtf is your problem, when got divorced lisa told me i had to take him, i was fine, ill take him right to the pound, she still has the pos, and he still pisses and shits in the house whenever he feels like it,
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There was a golden retriever that lived in the keys.. nicest dog ever. He’d swim through the canals and roam the entire community. Play with the kids..

One day a guy was driving in a golf cart and that golden snapped.. mauled the shit out of him.

Dogs are dogs..

Awhile back there was some small dog that nibbled all the fibers and toes off a baby.

All dogs have the capacity for harm

Yes.
But some dogs have 4-5 times the statistical capacity for monetary liability.
Hey, it isn’t me you have to convince, it’s the judge and insurance adjuster.
Good luck with that.
I’m trying to help here.
 

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When I was little, we used to spend weeks at a time at the river on my Grandfather's ranch. There was a family that lived there and worked the fields for him. One day me and another kid came outside and saw that family's German Shepard. We just wanted to pet the dog, and so Lynn and I approached it. As we got close it turned and attacked us. Lynn was about 15 and could run much faster and so she got away. The dog stayed to maul me pretty good. Turns out someone had just given it a freshly killed rabbit and we didn't know we were interrupting a meal.
They put the dog down later that day as I was the third or fourth person the dog had bitten badly. I have been bitten by dogs six times in my life, they just don't like me on the whole. Three times it was someone's dachshund . Useless friggin' dogs except they do make noise when people approach no matter what.
 

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Had a hybrid Wolf/Big Ass Malamute, absolutely loved kids. When the snow would fly sideways I would put his body harness on him and he would give sled rides until he was 100% whipped. I could take him anywhere but most people freaked out at the size of him. There was an autistic girl in the neighborhood and he watched over her like a guardian angel.
 

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It’s comedy when people defend pitbulls…yes other dogs bite, I was bit in the face by a weenie dog and got a few butterfly stitches…would be a different story if it was a pit bull…it’s not that they are all bad, it’s just when they do snap, it’s not a good outcome
 

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Turns out someone had just given it a freshly killed rabbit and we didn't know we were interrupting a meal.

This is exactly what happened to me.. The Mastiff was fixated on the filet mignon and tuna on the table. I always thought I interrupted him getting more meat. This is what I blame my incident on... My neighbor throws meat to the dog from the dinner table. I got in the way
 

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Had a hybrid Wolf/Big Ass Malamute, absolutely loved kids. When the snow would fly sideways I would put his body harness on him and he would give sled rides until he was 100% whipped. I could take him anywhere but most people freaked out at the size of him. There was an autistic girl in the neighborhood and he watched over her like a guardian angel.

My wolf dog was named “Thor”.
Alaska born.
At 6 months I think he was about 80 pounds.
Stupidest dog ever. Even stupider than the lab pups I’ve had.
The kids loved him.
 

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Only problem I had was the three dogs I could brush out of one from may until october at any time.
 

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A "mauling" by a pitbull versus one by another breed seems to be not even in the same book to me? Those fuk'rs latch on and never let go until they are dead or the thing in there mouth is.

Last Spring there was a couple that had one of those bastards out on the sandbar running free and the place was packed with people, many with young kids with the sand toys, etc. I knew it was bad news and I was on edge most of the day and voila!..the fuk'r goes after this little boy about 4 or 5 years old and I go running to the boat for the handgun. Thank God there were some people able to get ahold of him before it got real ugly and I had to shoot that little bastard. All I heard was excuse after excuse from the owners and others that it was the kids fault and how "sweet" the dog was, etc.

The breed needs to be exterminated, IMO.
 

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Owners who put their pits in a bad situation should be charged with reckless endangerment if it’s a close call. Getting away lucky should not be the learning experience, a hefty fine should be.

Now yeah you get in the pits yard that’s a different story. I’m talking about like the above story where it’s a “target rich environment” for a pit and the owners can’t imagine the outcome?
 

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Owners who put their pits in a bad situation should be charged with reckless endangerment if it’s a close call. Getting away lucky should not be the learning experience, a hefty fine should be.

Now yeah you get in the pits yard that’s a different story. I’m talking about like the above story where it’s a “target rich environment” for a pit and the owners can’t imagine the outcome?
Exactly, if you want a Pit then it cant leave your property. Let it eat your own damn family and not anyone else's and I'm good with that.
 

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My brother had two pitbulls, for many years everything was great....one day he gets a call from his neighbor saying he should get home because his pitbulls were fighting each other and it didnt look good...my brother rushed home from work, which was only like 10 minutes away...came home to a bloody mess in his backyard....blood and skin chunks everywhere...one dog was dead and the other one was just barely alive but died shortly after....never could figure out what made them turn on each other after living together for many years...
My cousin has the EXACT same story
 
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I think we tend to forget that dogs are animals, and, as a whole, are pound for pound much stronger than people. A K9 unit can toss a thug. When my 2 rhodesian males got into it, the aggressor flat kicked my ass. It turned into a bloody wrestling match, and I had a 100lb weight advantage. My kids would have tried to separate them if they would have seen it before me. That would not have ended well.
I feel bad for the parents, but absolutely horrible for the children. Kids will always trust animals. As a whole, I feel most animals are more trustworthy than most people.
 

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So how many people actually know that pits get "lockjaw" when they lock down? You have to be careful on the breeder. There is a large majority bred for "ring fighting" and have been brought into the public in the last 25 or so years. I think that has alot to do with it. KNOW THE BLOODLINE!

Growing up my mom bred wolf/shepherds, 3/4wolf 1/4 German shepherd. And Dobermans, blue dobbies, red dobbies and your traditional black dobbies. We had both that nobody could be around but us(immediate family) but those were purpose built dogs. others could roll around with anyone and care less.. would lead the kids around and watch over us while we where in the woods or swimming in the river!

Bottom line is know your dog and what its limits are. And be responsible, any dog can "bite" or "attack" at any time!

Ohh and schnauzers are the worst dog ever! They will turn on anyone in a second doesn't matter who you are!!
 

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Owners who put their pits in a bad situation should be charged with reckless endangerment if it’s a close call. Getting away lucky should not be the learning experience, a hefty fine should be.

Now yeah you get in the pits yard that’s a different story. I’m talking about like the above story where it’s a “target rich environment” for a pit and the owners can’t imagine the outcome?

Apply that to anything other than a “pit bull”.

Literally anything…. Guns? Other dog breeds? Etc
 

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So how many people actually know that pits get "lockjaw" when they lock down? You have to be careful on the breeder. There is a large majority bred for "ring fighting" and have been brought into the public in the last 25 or so years. I think that has alot to do with it. KNOW THE BLOODLINE!

Growing up my mom bred wolf/shepherds, 3/4wolf 1/4 German shepherd. And Dobermans, blue dobbies, red dobbies and your traditional black dobbies. We had both that nobody could be around but us(immediate family) but those were purpose built dogs. others could roll around with anyone and care less.. would lead the kids around and watch over us while we where in the woods or swimming in the river!

Bottom line is know your dog and what its limits are. And be responsible, any dog can "bite" or "attack" at any time!

Ohh and schnauzers are the worst dog ever! They will turn on anyone in a second doesn't matter who you are!!

lockjaw is a myth.. so there’s that.
 

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Another winter another pitbull thread..

Why don’t you guys spend five minutes and actually learn about the subject matter and dogs as a whole.

A mastive or a rotweiler will do as much if not more than a pit can to a full size grown adult.. Shepard being next (above a pitbull)

I’m not real scared of dogs.. but an actual pitbull is the least of my worries compared to those three.

A pit doesn’t weigh more than 55-60 lbs.. they aren’t large dogs and not hard to deal with if you know how. A rot is a small bear.. I’m not even sure what you do with that if it goes unhinged.

When I was a kid it was a cocker spaniel that got me according to my mom.

Later in life it was a lab.: When I was 16-17 I got it from another lab.. the second one paid for the first and it’s own..

Dogs are dogs..

This whole I’m gonna get a dog capable of whatever and accept no responsibility for the lack of training towards said capable thing is shocking,,

I don’t think wtg is wrong.. I think society is wrong.

Trained you won’t find a better breed than a pit.. any dog expert will tell ya the same thing. They are great dogs
 

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so should that family in the article not have been allowed to own those dogs?

or did they just need to learn / study more on how to not get attacked / killed by their dogs?
How exactly does one learn or study how to not have their children killed in a brutal attack after owning the dogs for eight years?

I know you're being sarcastic, but I've heard and read about this too many times.

How much did these people know about their dog's origins? The entire puppy industry has been fucked by unscrupulous breeders that mate parents and litters over and over, creating dogs that can have serious behavior and health issues.

Then there are those living the thug life, that get a pit bull because it makes them look badass. They tire of caring for the dog, and it ends up living on a chain with a circle of bare earth the diameter of the restraint. It gets food tossed at it occasionally, and sometimes the water bowl might be full but usually not. Those MF'ers should be attacked by the dog.

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Very sad that many owners have a Pit or other large dogs and one day it ends in disaster. Wife is a horse vet but does a few farm dogs and have seen many that are unsafe around anyone but the family and even they end up getting hurt.
 
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