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Hoover Dam (opened in 1935 as "Boulder Dam")
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Constructed in the Boulder Canyon, crossing the Colorado River between the states of Nevada and Arizona, sits the Hoover Dam. When it was constructed, the enormous dam was the largest concrete structure ever attempted.

When construction began in 1931, the first step was diverting the river by tunneling through the rock, changing the river’s course away from the site. New roads - and even a new town, Boulder City - were constructed to transport and house workers and building materials near the remote desert construction site.

After pouring more than 3,250,000 cubic yards of concrete, the structure opened as the Boulder Dam in 1935, years ahead of schedule. The name would later be officially changed to the Hoover Dam in 1947 in honor of President Hoover, who pushed for its construction.

By blocking the river, the dam created the 247 square mile Lake Mead; the water that flows through the dam and its power turbines generates enough electricity to be spread across the power grids of three states including Nevada, Arizona, and California.

The dam produces so much water and electricity that the city of Las Vegas was able to sustain growth that took it from a city that started with a population of 5,000 people to its current size of over a million people. Tourists and residents alike can thank the engineering marvel of the Hoover Dam for all the spectacular fountains and larger-than-life electric signs in the desert oasis.
 

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pretty sure boulder city is the only palace in Nevada getting power from hover dam...las vegas gets some thing like 95% of its power from gas powered power plants....also another reason that Nevada wants California and Arizona to pay for storing water at mead...and why nev want to see the lake dropped to 800'... then nev will be the only ones pulling water from mead...then, when that happens.. maybe so cal will quit watering lawns with drinking water...
 

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Also the dam was built in Black Canyon. Not Boulder Canyon...
 

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pretty sure boulder city is the only palace in Nevada getting power from hover dam...las vegas gets some thing like 95% of its power from gas powered power plants....also another reason that Nevada wants California and Arizona to pay for storing water at mead...and why nev want to see the lake dropped to 800'... then nev will be the only ones pulling water from mead...then, when that happens.. maybe so cal will quit watering lawns with drinking water...

so does that mean all river front property is going on a fire sale?
 

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How about a bridge that built the city Laughlin Nevada in the back
 

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I live in a town that came to be when the first dam on tbe columbia was built in the 20s 30 s. Many of my cousins helped build it.:cool:
 

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think it will be full again in our lifetime ?
 

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pretty sure boulder city is the only palace in Nevada getting power from hover dam...las vegas gets some thing like 95% of its power from gas powered power plants....also another reason that Nevada wants California and Arizona to pay for storing water at mead...and why nev want to see the lake dropped to 800'... then nev will be the only ones pulling water from mead...then, when that happens.. maybe so cal will quit watering lawns with drinking water...

More bullshit. The Colorado River Seven States Agreement, which was originally signed in 1922, allocates the usage of every bit of water that is discharged from Lake Mead. Without the agreement, federal legislation to build Hoover Dam would not have occurred.

Try reading a bit so you can stop embarrassing yourself.


Colorado River Seven States Agreement

In December 2007, the federal government and the seven states of the Colorado River Basin established guidelines for coordinated operation of Lakes Powell and Mead under low-reservoir conditions and for shortage allocations among the Lower Basin states. An ongoing severe drought and potential for a major shortfall in supplies led to the agreement.

In addition to water supply, there is concern that if Lake Mead were to drop to elevation 1,050 feet, hydroelectric-generation capacity at Hoover Dam would be compromised. Much of Hoover Dam’s power is used by Southern California cities and the Metropolitan Water District to pump supplies from Lake Havasu, through the 242-mile Colorado River Aqueduct, to Lake Mathews.

Another signature component of the Seven States Agreement is the Intentionally Created Surplus Program. It allows Lower Basin entities to create water credits through conservation measures such as importing water, lining canal, land fallowing, and take delivery of those water credits from Lake Mead at a future date.

Entities in the Lower Basin states can store up to 2.1 million acre-feet of Intentionally Created Surplus water in Lake Mead for their future use; with 5 percent credited to the overall system. This water could help keep Mead’s elevation higher and it could help prevent the need to declare a shortage – and curtail water deliveries – in the Lower Basin.

Under terms of the 2007 Seven States Agreement, the first shortage in the Lower Basin would occur if Lake Mead’s elevation were to drop to 1,075 feet. Arizona’s annual water apportionment would be decreased to 2.48 million acre-feet (normal allocation is 2.8 million acre-feet) while Nevada would receive 287,000 acre-feet (normal allocation is 300,000 acre-feet).

If Mead were to drop below 1,050 feet Arizona would get 2.4 million acre-feet and Nevada would get 283,000 acre-feet. And if the reservoir were to drop below 1,025 feet, Arizona would receive 2.32 million acre-feet; Nevada, 280,000 acre-feet. In any of these scenarios California would receive its full 4.4 million acre-feet, but would not be able to take delivery of ICS water during a Lower Basin shortage.

Further, if Lake Powell is higher than Lake Mead, it is required to release additional flows, simplifying the agreed-upon formula used to determine equalization.


https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/colorado-river-seven-states-agreement
 
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More bullshit. The Colorado River Seven States Agreement, which was originally signed in 1922, allocates the usage of every bit of water that is discharged from Lake Mead. Without the agreement, federal legislation to build Hoover Dam would not have occurred.

Try reading a bit so you can stop embarrassing yourself.


Colorado River Seven States Agreement

In December 2007, the federal government and the seven states of the Colorado River Basin established guidelines for coordinated operation of Lakes Powell and Mead under low-reservoir conditions and for shortage allocations among the Lower Basin states. An ongoing severe drought and potential for a major shortfall in supplies led to the agreement.

In addition to water supply, there is concern that if Lake Mead were to drop to elevation 1,050 feet, hydroelectric-generation capacity at Hoover Dam would be compromised. Much of Hoover Dam’s power is used by Southern California cities and the Metropolitan Water District to pump supplies from Lake Havasu, through the 242-mile Colorado River Aqueduct, to Lake Mathews.

Another signature component of the Seven States Agreement is the Intentionally Created Surplus Program. It allows Lower Basin entities to create water credits through conservation measures such as importing water, lining canal, land fallowing, and take delivery of those water credits from Lake Mead at a future date.

Entities in the Lower Basin states can store up to 2.1 million acre-feet of Intentionally Created Surplus water in Lake Mead for their future use; with 5 percent credited to the overall system. This water could help keep Mead’s elevation higher and it could help prevent the need to declare a shortage – and curtail water deliveries – in the Lower Basin.

Under terms of the 2007 Seven States Agreement, the first shortage in the Lower Basin would occur if Lake Mead’s elevation were to drop to 1,075 feet. Arizona’s annual water apportionment would be decreased to 2.48 million acre-feet (normal allocation is 2.8 million acre-feet) while Nevada would receive 287,000 acre-feet (normal allocation is 300,000 acre-feet).

If Mead were to drop below 1,050 feet Arizona would get 2.4 million acre-feet and Nevada would get 283,000 acre-feet. And if the reservoir were to drop below 1,025 feet, Arizona would receive 2.32 million acre-feet; Nevada, 280,000 acre-feet. In any of these scenarios California would receive its full 4.4 million acre-feet, but would not be able to take delivery of ICS water during a Lower Basin shortage.

Further, if Lake Powell is higher than Lake Mead, it is required to release additional flows, simplifying the agreed-upon formula used to determine equalization.


https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/colorado-river-seven-states-agreement

Yes.

And there's more.

During the 1910's and 1920's, when the water data was collected, these were wet years, el nino type years.

Water was allocated on above average supply.

Fast forward to the 1950's, already a shortage was evident. Treaty with Mexico, 1944, was also allocated on false records.

Genuine guberment cluster f*ck.

Look into the tamerisk (salt cedar) and its spread across the southwest.. It started at Lake Mead. Washington bureaucrats wanting green trees around the lake. Even Barstow has this problem.

Steve needs a library card.

That's all I got.

Dan'l
 

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More bullshit. The Colorado River Seven States Agreement, which was originally signed in 1922, allocates the usage of every bit of water that is discharged from Lake Mead. Without the agreement, federal legislation to build Hoover Dam would not have occurred.

Try reading a bit so you can stop embarrassing yourself.


Colorado River Seven States Agreement

In December 2007, the federal government and the seven states of the Colorado River Basin established guidelines for coordinated operation of Lakes Powell and Mead under low-reservoir conditions and for shortage allocations among the Lower Basin states. An ongoing severe drought and potential for a major shortfall in supplies led to the agreement.

In addition to water supply, there is concern that if Lake Mead were to drop to elevation 1,050 feet, hydroelectric-generation capacity at Hoover Dam would be compromised. Much of Hoover Dam’s power is used by Southern California cities and the Metropolitan Water District to pump supplies from Lake Havasu, through the 242-mile Colorado River Aqueduct, to Lake Mathews.

Another signature component of the Seven States Agreement is the Intentionally Created Surplus Program. It allows Lower Basin entities to create water credits through conservation measures such as importing water, lining canal, land fallowing, and take delivery of those water credits from Lake Mead at a future date.

Entities in the Lower Basin states can store up to 2.1 million acre-feet of Intentionally Created Surplus water in Lake Mead for their future use; with 5 percent credited to the overall system. This water could help keep Mead’s elevation higher and it could help prevent the need to declare a shortage – and curtail water deliveries – in the Lower Basin.

Under terms of the 2007 Seven States Agreement, the first shortage in the Lower Basin would occur if Lake Mead’s elevation were to drop to 1,075 feet. Arizona’s annual water apportionment would be decreased to 2.48 million acre-feet (normal allocation is 2.8 million acre-feet) while Nevada would receive 287,000 acre-feet (normal allocation is 300,000 acre-feet).

If Mead were to drop below 1,050 feet Arizona would get 2.4 million acre-feet and Nevada would get 283,000 acre-feet. And if the reservoir were to drop below 1,025 feet, Arizona would receive 2.32 million acre-feet; Nevada, 280,000 acre-feet. In any of these scenarios California would receive its full 4.4 million acre-feet, but would not be able to take delivery of ICS water during a Lower Basin shortage.

Further, if Lake Powell is higher than Lake Mead, it is required to release additional flows, simplifying the agreed-upon formula used to determine equalization.


https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/colorado-river-seven-states-agreement

It is great that you can copy and paste information. Really is.

It would be even more great if you could be nice about it.
 

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Only on RDP the Den of Alpha Males......Hee hee. Interesting stories never the less:p
 

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Only on RDP the Den of Alpha Males......Hee hee. Interesting stories never the less:p

Is this what Alpha is considered? I guess that has changed over the years as well......;)
 

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So glad I started this thread :rolleyes:

Where's Rodney King when we "need him?"
 

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It is great that you can copy and paste information. Really is.

It would be even more great if you could be nice about it.

The C&P is in hopes the guy will read it and finally shut up. I'm just tired of the endless foolish posts 2FF makes about Lake Mead. In spite of me explaining the "nice" way several times previously, he continues to make ridiculous claims about the water rights and how he met some guy on a boat ramp that let him in on the secret pact made to drain the lake.

When someone is spreading bullshit, I call them on it.
 

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whats truly amazing is that I went from Windsor to the AVI casino on the river that is supposed to be dry in 2020....and that people in vegas drank all the water.....lol...I don't give a fuc how much water is in mead....long as it'll float my boat....:D
 
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Dropping levels at Lake Mead could trigger cutoffs to Arizona
Lake Mead is considered full at1,221 feet. In recent years, theclosest it has been to full was inFebruary 2013.As of September, Lake Mead'swater level was at 1,078.29 feet.If Lake Mead falls below 1,075 feetin December measurements,cutoffs begin.If Lake Mead falls below 1,050 feetin December measurements, moreserious cutoffs begin.At 895 feet, Lake Mead would bedeclared a “dead pool,” meaning nowater can be released.1,221 feet1,078 feet1,075 feet1,050 feet895 feet
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Source: U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, National Park Service
(Graphic by Lauren Intrieri/Cronkite News)
 

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We have video pulling up to the bottom of the dam & being told by someone with a bullhorn on top to please leave the restricted area. We literally kept gloing a bit before turning around. Today we'd be shot.

I love what the dams created on the river!
 

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More bullshit. The Colorado River Seven States Agreement, which was originally signed in 1922, allocates the usage of every bit of water that is discharged from Lake Mead. Without the agreement, federal legislation to build Hoover Dam would not have occurred.

Try reading a bit so you can stop embarrassing yourself.


Colorado River Seven States Agreement

In December 2007, the federal government and the seven states of the Colorado River Basin established guidelines for coordinated operation of Lakes Powell and Mead under low-reservoir conditions and for shortage allocations among the Lower Basin states. An ongoing severe drought and potential for a major shortfall in supplies led to the agreement.

In addition to water supply, there is concern that if Lake Mead were to drop to elevation 1,050 feet, hydroelectric-generation capacity at Hoover Dam would be compromised. Much of Hoover Dam’s power is used by Southern California cities and the Metropolitan Water District to pump supplies from Lake Havasu, through the 242-mile Colorado River Aqueduct, to Lake Mathews.

Another signature component of the Seven States Agreement is the Intentionally Created Surplus Program. It allows Lower Basin entities to create water credits through conservation measures such as importing water, lining canal, land fallowing, and take delivery of those water credits from Lake Mead at a future date.

Entities in the Lower Basin states can store up to 2.1 million acre-feet of Intentionally Created Surplus water in Lake Mead for their future use; with 5 percent credited to the overall system. This water could help keep Mead’s elevation higher and it could help prevent the need to declare a shortage – and curtail water deliveries – in the Lower Basin.

Under terms of the 2007 Seven States Agreement, the first shortage in the Lower Basin would occur if Lake Mead’s elevation were to drop to 1,075 feet. Arizona’s annual water apportionment would be decreased to 2.48 million acre-feet (normal allocation is 2.8 million acre-feet) while Nevada would receive 287,000 acre-feet (normal allocation is 300,000 acre-feet).

If Mead were to drop below 1,050 feet Arizona would get 2.4 million acre-feet and Nevada would get 283,000 acre-feet. And if the reservoir were to drop below 1,025 feet, Arizona would receive 2.32 million acre-feet; Nevada, 280,000 acre-feet. In any of these scenarios California would receive its full 4.4 million acre-feet, but would not be able to take delivery of ICS water during a Lower Basin shortage.

Further, if Lake Powell is higher than Lake Mead, it is required to release additional flows, simplifying the agreed-upon formula used to determine equalization.


https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/colorado-river-seven-states-agreement
And lake mathews is filled to the brim. They have been releasing water for months too. I drive past it almost daily. Im amazed how full it is with all the release
 

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Dropping levels at Lake Mead could trigger cutoffs to Arizona
Lake Mead is considered full at1,221 feet. In recent years, theclosest it has been to full was inFebruary 2013.As of September, Lake Mead'swater level was at 1,078.29 feet.If Lake Mead falls below 1,075 feetin December measurements,cutoffs begin.If Lake Mead falls below 1,050 feetin December measurements, moreserious cutoffs begin.At 895 feet, Lake Mead would bedeclared a “dead pool,” meaning nowater can be released.1,221 feet1,078 feet1,075 feet1,050 feet895 feet

Source: U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, National Park Service
(Graphic by Lauren Intrieri/Cronkite News)


The same information is in my post above, except it has greater detail and gives the amount of allocation reductions for each state at certain lake elevations. :rolleyes:

Maybe you should read it so you don't keep posting stupid shit like this...

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also another reason that Nevada wants California and Arizona to pay for storing water at mead...and why nev want to see the lake dropped to 800'... then nev will be the only ones pulling water from mead.
 

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all I know is this.... I don't believe anything the government says to the public, no one knows the shit they are up to,and no one really knows the squabbles between the different burals that all think they are the controlling power...just like IRA,401k, roth...why the fuck does it have to be so hard to understand... why do old people have to fight and be scared about how much money they are gonna loose,same with the water.... who really knows whats going on....all I did was repete what was told to me.... pretty sure if I didn't know what was said... then it happened,.. I could sit here all day C&P article that go both ways

we can all agree that there was a reason to lower the lake level,and pretty sure they didn't say to scare everyone into water conservation...we flat waist a lot of water...and as far as the drought....pretty cool that drought filled the river all the way to the gulf... another drought like that and parker will be under water...
 

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The C&P is in hopes the guy will read it and finally shut up. I'm just tired of the endless foolish posts 2FF makes about Lake Mead. In spite of me explaining the "nice" way several times previously, he continues to make ridiculous claims about the water rights and how he met some guy on a boat ramp that let him in on the secret pact made to drain the lake.

When someone is spreading bullshit, I call them on it.
who the fuc do you think you are is the question... what gives you the right to chase me around the boards and attack me the way you do...you don't just disagree, you make fight starting comments, and if I did it I would be banned from here...the conant baiting that you do needs to stop...can I make you,.. no... your like a neighbors barking dog....like I said in the beginning, the guy from water authority told me, but as proven by you, reading on the internet is far more reliable.....even if it was just my opinion, I'm entitled to it....you can also have your opinion....I don't never attack you, as fact... I don't give a fuc what you think,say, or do..
 

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Got us a bunch of assclowns up in here. Who gives a fuck about the water , go fucking boating or not ...just stay the fuck away from me .....

Some people in this world need to look in the mirror ......

If you think this is you , go look in the mirror , and some of us say this place is no fun anymore , we are arguing about the water level at lake mead ...again fuck that lake , if its yore lake that you boat on , here is a secret.

Put the boat in the water and be glad you have a beautiful lake to boat on , and if you boat down stream , enjoy that water that flowed through lake mead to get there....

And if yore a California commie taking the water, well fuck you too......lol , God I need a drink. He told me that ...[emoji867][emoji39][emoji202]

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More bullshit. The Colorado River Seven States Agreement, which was originally signed in 1922, allocates the usage of every bit of water that is discharged from Lake Mead. Without the agreement, federal legislation to build Hoover Dam would not have occurred.

Try reading a bit so you can stop embarrassing yourself.


Colorado River Seven States Agreement

In December 2007, the federal government and the seven states of the Colorado River Basin established guidelines for coordinated operation of Lakes Powell and Mead under low-reservoir conditions and for shortage allocations among the Lower Basin states. An ongoing severe drought and potential for a major shortfall in supplies led to the agreement.

In addition to water supply, there is concern that if Lake Mead were to drop to elevation 1,050 feet, hydroelectric-generation capacity at Hoover Dam would be compromised. Much of Hoover Dam’s power is used by Southern California cities and the Metropolitan Water District to pump supplies from Lake Havasu, through the 242-mile Colorado River Aqueduct, to Lake Mathews.

Another signature component of the Seven States Agreement is the Intentionally Created Surplus Program. It allows Lower Basin entities to create water credits through conservation measures such as importing water, lining canal, land fallowing, and take delivery of those water credits from Lake Mead at a future date.

Entities in the Lower Basin states can store up to 2.1 million acre-feet of Intentionally Created Surplus water in Lake Mead for their future use; with 5 percent credited to the overall system. This water could help keep Mead’s elevation higher and it could help prevent the need to declare a shortage – and curtail water deliveries – in the Lower Basin.

Under terms of the 2007 Seven States Agreement, the first shortage in the Lower Basin would occur if Lake Mead’s elevation were to drop to 1,075 feet. Arizona’s annual water apportionment would be decreased to 2.48 million acre-feet (normal allocation is 2.8 million acre-feet) while Nevada would receive 287,000 acre-feet (normal allocation is 300,000 acre-feet).

If Mead were to drop below 1,050 feet Arizona would get 2.4 million acre-feet and Nevada would get 283,000 acre-feet. And if the reservoir were to drop below 1,025 feet, Arizona would receive 2.32 million acre-feet; Nevada, 280,000 acre-feet. In any of these scenarios California would receive its full 4.4 million acre-feet, but would not be able to take delivery of ICS water during a Lower Basin shortage.

Further, if Lake Powell is higher than Lake Mead, it is required to release additional flows, simplifying the agreed-upon formula used to determine equalization.


https://www.watereducation.org/aquapedia/colorado-river-seven-states-agreement

Why so hostile?
 

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Got us a bunch of assclowns up in here. Who gives a fuck about the water , go fucking boating or not ...just stay the fuck away from me .....

Some people in this world need to look in the mirror ......

If you think this is you , go look in the mirror , and some of us say this place is no fun anymore , we are arguing about the water level at lake mead ...again fuck that lake , if its yore lake that you boat on , here is a secret.

Put the boat in the water and be glad you have a beautiful lake to boat on , and if you boat down stream , enjoy that water that flowed through lake mead to get there....

And if yore a California commie taking the water, well fuck you too......lol , God I need a drink. He told me that ...[emoji867][emoji39][emoji202]

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I was actually impressed the first three pics were right side up! :D. Last one got ya though.
 
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