Stranded on the launch ramp. Need ideas

[SpeedyWho]

I’m at Cattail Cove and my outdrive won’t lower down out of trailer mode. It’s dead on the throttle and on the dash. The fuse is good and I even swapped it out with a different one just to check. Nothing. Everything else works as it should engine starts, trim tabs, lights, blower, pump, everything. It worked last time I was out a couple weeks ago.

I don’t wanna go home what am I misssing?? Help please.

It’s a Bravo One.

 

[Universal Elements]

Sounds like possibly the solenoid

 

[Universal Elements]

 

[farmo83]

Can you put power directly to the drive and see if it does anything IE bypass the switch. I've had the switch go out in mine a few times.

 

[SpeedyWho]

Son of a bitch, ok I’ll dig deeper now. I don’t have any clicking or sounds whatsoever. That might be the issue.

Thank you for the fast reply. I appreciate it.

 

[Icky]

Did you try your trailer button

 

[monkeyswrench]

Ok, you guys are bad ass. A guy posts from the ramp, needs help, and gets answers...where's @Ziggy with the giant thumbs up emoji!

 

[SpeedyWho]

Yep, trailer button and throttle dead no sound at all. All the connections are good and the pump and everything are super clean and look fine.

 

[SpeedyWho]

It should be an easy fix if someone has the part in town

 

[NicPaus]

Tap on the solenoid on the pump. I have had same and once it freed up it worked fine.

 

[buck35]

Have you checked the wires from the senders. Will do anything in up mode?

 

[Riverryder]

Jump The solenoid. What throttle do you have? My old boat did it. Wires were frayed in the control. Has to take the throttle apart, cut old wires, soldered new wires and it worked fine!


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[SpeedyWho]

Just saw Hula headed southbound to the Springs..... fuck I was gonna meet up with him too.

I tapped on them just like you would on an car starter still nothing.

 

[Your ad here]

Loose ground wire?

 

[Nacimientobound]

Tap on the solenoid on the pump. I have had same and once it freed up it worked fine.

give this a try. Had it work before.

 

[Pelon]

Does the up work? If it does lower it manually or just swap the relays.

 

[SpeedyWho]

Neither direction works, no sounds like they’re trying no clicks just dead.

Is there anybody in town that might have this part? I could swap it out pretty easy. I wish I had a multi meter with me.

 

[boatdoc55]

Just some how get power to the GREEN wire on the pump. Jumper cable, large channel locks anything to transfer power from the heavy RED feed to the Heavy green. GREEN down BLUE up. Might have to do the same to go back up. Wish you were at Windsor, I'm 5 minutes away.

 

[SpeedyWho]

I’m head into town, I’ll see what I can do from there.

To everyone who replied I appreciate the info and I hope I can return the favor sometime.

 

[Pelon]

I don't have a Mercury I have a Volvo Penta. I have a reset button on the inside where the fluid reservoir is.

 

[guest hs]

If you have a test light check for power and ground on the ten gauge wires that run from the battery to the pump. If you have power at the square fuse block make sure you have power after it, green wire is down blue wire is up. Its going to be one of three things bad ground no power

 

[bocco]

When removing and replacing the pump like in the video, do the hydraulics require bleeding? Or just cycle a few times and refill.

 

[Groper]

Maybe you should try a different Prop......


Ok alright im sorerrry
It's sounds like the pump solenoid as mentioned also check the pumps fuse.

 

[Groper]

Neither direction works, no sounds like they’re trying no clicks just dead.

Is there anybody in town that might have this part? I could swap it out pretty easy. I wish I had a multi meter with me.

West Marine should have what you need.
I had corrosion underneath the solenoid terminals stud that looked good on the front but was not ketting a good contact. So check all your connections.

 

[SpeedyWho]

Maybe you should try a different Prop......


Ok alright im sorerrry
It's sounds like the pump solenoid as mentioned also check the pumps fuse.

That’s good stuff it made me laugh

 

[3.Slow]

Neither direction works, no sounds like they’re trying no clicks just dead.

Is there anybody in town that might have this part? I could swap it out pretty easy. I wish I had a multi meter with me.

West Marine on industrial should have the solenoid parts you needs, this happened to me 2 years ago during desert storm and they had the parts, I would pick up a multimeter also, and go from there.

 

[boatdoc55]

When removing and replacing the pump like in the video, do the hydraulics require bleeding? Or just cycle a few times and refill.

Just cycle it a few times and make sure the fluid level is up to snuff.

 

[572ext]

have you change the battery's since last time you used the boat? if so sometimes the boat mfg run the 10 gauge wires for the trim pump right to the battery's and maybe you missed one when hooking up the battery's.

 

[Headless hula]

FOCK!!!!

 

[Headless hula]

We just finished eating. Headed to 3 dunes in a few.



Pissed you had issues. I'm with travis Barron. He rigs at nordic. We probably could've got you sorted man.

 

[TPC]

Their used to be a mechanic on duty right there at Cat Tail with parts.
Has that situation changed?

 

[stephenkatsea]

Their used to be a mechanic on duty right there at Cat Tail with parts.
Has that situation changed?

Cat Tail? Or the adjacent Sand Point, which is no longer there.

 

[SpeedyWho]

Not giving up yet

 

[SpeedyWho]

Bingo!! in-line fuse down stream from the battery.

 

[lbhsbz]

View attachment 817266 Bingo!! in-line fuse down stream from the battery.

Now you get to figure out why it blew

 

[SpeedyWho]

Ok, so the new fuse lasted all of one cycle down with the drive, then I put a another one in to raise it back up. Solonoids seem to work fine now, there’s a short somewhere I’m guessing

 

[HNL2LHC]

Just get a wrapper from a stick of gum and wrap the fuse. Good as new. :looking:









Best of luck to finding the issue and getting on the water!!!!

 

[boatdoc55]

Your pump itself MAY be drawing too many amps or/and one of the rams has a seal grabbing to hard and over working the pump. Something has the pump working to hard I believe. If it was a dead short the fuse would have left in an instant of hitting the switch.

 

[Icky]

Grab a handful of bigger fuses, go boating worry about that shit later

 

[bocco]

Just get a wrapper from a stick of gum and wrap the fuse. Good as new.

Ha! I learned that trick from a truck driver when I was a kid. But the foil wrapper needs to be from a pack of Lucky Strikes.

 

[240Hallett]

Their used to be a mechanic on duty right there at Cat Tail with parts.
Has that situation changed?

That was next door at what used to be Sandpoint.

 

[SpeedyWho]

Your pump itself MAY be drawing too many amps or/and one of the rams has a seal grabbing to hard and over working the pump. Something has the pump working to hard I believe. If it was a dead short the fuse would have left in an instant of hitting the switch.

Yeah that sounds like it might be the issue, or at least it’s the right place to look next. I was kinda bullshitting myself thinking/hoping it was just a simple fuse.

Thanks everybody... I’m going home I’ve had enough for today.

 

[lbhsbz]

Disconnect the pump wires from the solenoids, then see if the fuse still blows. If it does, the pump is fine, and the problem lies upstream. Keep pulling out more components until the fuse stops popping when you get on the switch.

If the fuse doesn’t blow holding the switch down with the pump disconnected, time for a pump.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Yeah that sounds like it might be the issue, or at least it’s the right place to look next. I was kinda bullshitting myself thinking/hoping it was just a simple fuse.

Thanks everybody... I’m going home I’ve had enough for today.

Bummer to hear that you were not able to make it happen. BEst of luck to you and the resolution.

 

[TPC]

Cat Tail? Or the adjacent Sand Point, which is no longer there.

We got a water pump replaced right there

That was next door at what used to be Sandpoint.

Yes,, it has been a long time since we did that.

 

[Ziggy]

Ok, you guys are bad ass. A guy posts from the ramp, needs help, and gets answers...where's @Ziggy with the giant thumbs up emoji!

How big is it actually? Looks perfectly normal on my cellular device.

 

[monkeyswrench]

How big is it actually? Looks perfectly normal on my cellular device. View attachment 817301

About 75% of my hand with my laptop.

Much appreciated sir!

 

[poncho]

Yep, trailer button and throttle dead no sound at all. All the connections are good and the pump and everything are super clean and look fine.

2 wires at the solenoid, green and blue, if you have a piece of wire jump direct from 12V positive to the green wire, old saying green for grass blue for sky, if its the solenoid.

I missed the later replies, good luck

 

[SpeedyWho]

Well I made it out about an hour before sunset. Made the loop around the island and back to Cattail Cove. I’m a dumdass, I bought 20a fuses and the original that was bad was a 30a, I don’t know why I did that. I bought some 30’s and it worked fine. I still think there might a problem but it’s working now...
I really debated if I was going tell everybody I got the wrong ones first but oh well shit happens and I learned a lesson today. And I got a new multi meter too.

Once again thanks to everyone for the help today. And I think it’s pretty obvious I need a new prop as Groper was so kind to point out.

 

[Icky]

View attachment 817353 View attachment 817354 Well I made it out about an hour before sunset. Made the loop around the island and back to Cattail Cove. I’m a dumdass, I bought 20a fuses and the original that was bad was a 30a, I don’t know why I did that. I bought some 30’s and it worked fine. I still think there might a problem but it’s working now...
I really debated if I was going tell everybody I got the wrong ones first but oh well shit happens and I learned a lesson today. And I got a new multi meter too.

Once again thanks to everyone for the help today. And I think it’s pretty obvious I need a new prop as Groper was so kind to point out.

Grab a handful of bigger fuses, go boating worry about that shit later

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