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Snakes and Lake Havsu
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This is getting ridiculous. I blame Shintoo for bringing this all to light with his GoPro video.
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Snakes just want to spend a day at the river too.
Damn Scrooges.
Looks like lunch to me.
Damn Scrooges.
Looks like lunch to me.
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...and drink beer and look at tits.
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BLM put them there to keep you out of the canyon.
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That looks like a thick friggin' snake !
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Tastes like chicken!
Too bad Paul65K wasn't ripping through there with his high-strung outboard! Slice that sucker into a bunch of pieces!
....and right on the grill
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Tell everyone to stay away from the river there's a snake infestation
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What would you do if you were swimming and saw this guy coming across the water toward you?
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I think my fat ass would walk on water. Lol
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lol. I was thinking dive under water and swim away.
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Not sure you could really do anything.
I imagine you would be really fucked if it took a liking to you.
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Im pretty sure they can swim under as well.
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A snake can't strike in the water. Not to say it won't bite. It just can't strike from a distance.
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I'm actually looking into this topic a little further. A snake can strike on water, however its striking range is diminished significantly.
Everything I am reading so far says that statistically it is unlikely to be attacked by a snake, and most of the cases where humans are bitten are provoked by the person.
I wonder how much anti-venom the Havasu regional medical center has in stock?
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AVOIDING WATERSNAKE CONFRONTATIONS
All snakes can swim. They use the water's surface tension to glide and can lift 1/4 to 1/3 of their body length off of the water surface. Some snakes, such as Northern water snakes, redbelly watersnakes, brown water snakes, banded water snakes, and cottonmouth snakes are more likely to be encountered on or near the water. A snake on land can only lunge forward (strike) a distance of half of its body length. A snake on water does not have a solid surface to thrust against, so its strike range while swimming is extremely limited. Snakes prefer to flee rather than fight. But if they feel cornered or threatened, or if they are accidentally stepped on or provoked, a water snake (venomous or nonvenomous) seldom backs down. Here's how to minimize snake encounters in the water.
On land or water, giving snakes a wide berth will minimize your chances of being bitten. In a lifetime of outdoor work and recreation, the only snakebite I have ever received was when I stepped on a copperhead while walking through tall grass.
Avoiding snakes while canoeing, fishing, rafting or boating is similar to avoiding snakes on land in that you want to stay away from areas that the snakes use for sunning. This means avoid drifting underneath overhanging tree branches. Many of the water snakes like to sun on tree branches then drop into the water when they detect movement.
Unfortunately, if the current is swift or the snake is slow, this means snakes sometimes drop unintentionally into a boat or canoe in their attempt to escape. Getting a scared snake out of a canoe is not fun!
Carry a pair of long-handled reptile grips if you are canoeing in areas where it is impossible to avoid overhanging branches. They aren't very expensive, especially compared to the expenses of mending a canoe or a trip to the emergency room. You are more likely to be injured by a upsetting the canoe if you panic than by getting snake bit, so get the grips and practice grabbing pieces of soft garden hose from various parts of the canoe then dropping and retrieving them from the water. When you get good at this with minimal rocking of the canoe, you will know you are prepared for the "worst that could happen". Be sure you retrieve all hose pieces from the water!
You aren't going to want to scrape your canoe, raft or boat on rocks, so I won't bother mentioning them as the other popular sunning place for snakes. Swimming snakes are not a threat to you in a boat or canoe; they can't jump into the canoe from the water.
You are much more likely to be stung by a bee, wasp or hornet than bitten by a snake. Learn to identify the snakes you see while you are boating, canoeing or fishing. If you are bitten, you need to be able to identify the snake that bit you if possible. Don't capture or kill it--that's how most snake bites occur. Nonvenomous snake bites form a horseshoe-shaped area of many small punctures about the depth of briar scatches, which may or may not bleed profusely. Venomous snakes will leave one or two visible puncture wounds. Click here for snake bite first aid tips.
Bring a standard boating first aid kit for the emergencies that may occur while boating, canoeing or fishing, including bites and stings. Also bring liquid soap, antiseptic wipes and bottled water to clean the various minor wounds that occur outdoors as well as bites and stings. If you go canoeing in the deep south where venomous snakes are more prevalent, you may want to add a venom removal pump to you first aid kit, but its really not necessary here in the Piedmont. Never go boating, canoing or rafting alone.
You will see more water snakes during the daytime in hot humid weather, but North Carolina snakes in general emerge in late March or early April and go into brumation/hibernation in October. Most land snakes are much more active at night.
Distinguish between Venomous & Nonvenomous Snakes
Of the 37 species of snakes throughout North Carolina, only six are venomous:
Copperhead (found throughout NC)
Canebrake Rattlesnake (found throughout NC)
Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake (found in southeastern NC)
Pigmy Rattlesnake (found in southeastern NC)
Cottonmouth or Water Moccasin (found in wetland areas in the eastern half of NC)
Coral Snake (the rarest, found in the south and southeastern areas of NC)
North Carolina's non venomous snakes have many tiny teeth. These small teeth will make superficial cuts similar to briar scratches. If you, a child or a pet is bitten by a nonvenomous snake, the bite will look like a horseshoe of tiny scratches. Clean the area well with soap and water and wipe it with hydrogen peroxide. If only one or two puncture wounds are present, or if you are allergic to snakes, or if you are not sure the snake is nonvenomous, go to a doctor. Unlike venomous snakes, most nonvenomous snakes cannot bite through clothing.
If a confrontation is unavoidable, how can you tell the difference between a venomous cottonmouth and a harmless Brown Water snake? The rattlesnakes, copperhead, and cottonmouth are pit vipers. They are characterized by a pit between and slightly below the eye and nostril, long movable fangs, a vertically elliptical "cat's eye" pupil, undivided scales on the underside of the tail, and a large triangular-shaped head that has a small, smooth, shiny cap over the nose. Nonvenomous snakes have round pupils, a large smooth cap over the top of the head past the eyes, divided scales on the underside of the tail, no pits and no long fangs.
comparision of venomous and nonvenomous snake heads
comparision of venomous and nonvenomous snake heads
Non-venomous snakes should not be killed. Venomous snakes should only be killed if their presence endangers humans or pets. More than 80% of snakebites occur when a person is trying to kill or handle a snake. If the snake is encountered outdoors, the best defense is to back slowly away from it.
All snakes can swim. They use the water's surface tension to glide and can lift 1/4 to 1/3 of their body length off of the water surface. Some snakes, such as Northern water snakes, redbelly watersnakes, brown water snakes, banded water snakes, and cottonmouth snakes are more likely to be encountered on or near the water. A snake on land can only lunge forward (strike) a distance of half of its body length. A snake on water does not have a solid surface to thrust against, so its strike range while swimming is extremely limited. Snakes prefer to flee rather than fight. But if they feel cornered or threatened, or if they are accidentally stepped on or provoked, a water snake (venomous or nonvenomous) seldom backs down. Here's how to minimize snake encounters in the water.
On land or water, giving snakes a wide berth will minimize your chances of being bitten. In a lifetime of outdoor work and recreation, the only snakebite I have ever received was when I stepped on a copperhead while walking through tall grass.
Avoiding snakes while canoeing, fishing, rafting or boating is similar to avoiding snakes on land in that you want to stay away from areas that the snakes use for sunning. This means avoid drifting underneath overhanging tree branches. Many of the water snakes like to sun on tree branches then drop into the water when they detect movement.
Unfortunately, if the current is swift or the snake is slow, this means snakes sometimes drop unintentionally into a boat or canoe in their attempt to escape. Getting a scared snake out of a canoe is not fun!
Carry a pair of long-handled reptile grips if you are canoeing in areas where it is impossible to avoid overhanging branches. They aren't very expensive, especially compared to the expenses of mending a canoe or a trip to the emergency room. You are more likely to be injured by a upsetting the canoe if you panic than by getting snake bit, so get the grips and practice grabbing pieces of soft garden hose from various parts of the canoe then dropping and retrieving them from the water. When you get good at this with minimal rocking of the canoe, you will know you are prepared for the "worst that could happen". Be sure you retrieve all hose pieces from the water!
You aren't going to want to scrape your canoe, raft or boat on rocks, so I won't bother mentioning them as the other popular sunning place for snakes. Swimming snakes are not a threat to you in a boat or canoe; they can't jump into the canoe from the water.
You are much more likely to be stung by a bee, wasp or hornet than bitten by a snake. Learn to identify the snakes you see while you are boating, canoeing or fishing. If you are bitten, you need to be able to identify the snake that bit you if possible. Don't capture or kill it--that's how most snake bites occur. Nonvenomous snake bites form a horseshoe-shaped area of many small punctures about the depth of briar scatches, which may or may not bleed profusely. Venomous snakes will leave one or two visible puncture wounds. Click here for snake bite first aid tips.
Bring a standard boating first aid kit for the emergencies that may occur while boating, canoeing or fishing, including bites and stings. Also bring liquid soap, antiseptic wipes and bottled water to clean the various minor wounds that occur outdoors as well as bites and stings. If you go canoeing in the deep south where venomous snakes are more prevalent, you may want to add a venom removal pump to you first aid kit, but its really not necessary here in the Piedmont. Never go boating, canoing or rafting alone.
You will see more water snakes during the daytime in hot humid weather, but North Carolina snakes in general emerge in late March or early April and go into brumation/hibernation in October. Most land snakes are much more active at night.
Distinguish between Venomous & Nonvenomous Snakes
Of the 37 species of snakes throughout North Carolina, only six are venomous:
Copperhead (found throughout NC)
Canebrake Rattlesnake (found throughout NC)
Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake (found in southeastern NC)
Pigmy Rattlesnake (found in southeastern NC)
Cottonmouth or Water Moccasin (found in wetland areas in the eastern half of NC)
Coral Snake (the rarest, found in the south and southeastern areas of NC)
North Carolina's non venomous snakes have many tiny teeth. These small teeth will make superficial cuts similar to briar scratches. If you, a child or a pet is bitten by a nonvenomous snake, the bite will look like a horseshoe of tiny scratches. Clean the area well with soap and water and wipe it with hydrogen peroxide. If only one or two puncture wounds are present, or if you are allergic to snakes, or if you are not sure the snake is nonvenomous, go to a doctor. Unlike venomous snakes, most nonvenomous snakes cannot bite through clothing.
If a confrontation is unavoidable, how can you tell the difference between a venomous cottonmouth and a harmless Brown Water snake? The rattlesnakes, copperhead, and cottonmouth are pit vipers. They are characterized by a pit between and slightly below the eye and nostril, long movable fangs, a vertically elliptical "cat's eye" pupil, undivided scales on the underside of the tail, and a large triangular-shaped head that has a small, smooth, shiny cap over the nose. Nonvenomous snakes have round pupils, a large smooth cap over the top of the head past the eyes, divided scales on the underside of the tail, no pits and no long fangs.
comparision of venomous and nonvenomous snake heads
comparision of venomous and nonvenomous snake heads
Non-venomous snakes should not be killed. Venomous snakes should only be killed if their presence endangers humans or pets. More than 80% of snakebites occur when a person is trying to kill or handle a snake. If the snake is encountered outdoors, the best defense is to back slowly away from it.
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The Captain Obvious folks at AZGF will now need a new division to warn boaters of snakes.
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Be that as it may, I'm sure the lil bastard can swim faster than me.
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We have been coming to the lake and river for many years and never saw a snake of any size swimming in the water. This guy was at least 5ft long.
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...young males under the influence of alcohol. [emoji3]
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I've seen 2 swimming in the gorge.
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I wonder why they are crossing the gorge???
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Gettin the hell out of Cali. [emoji2]
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We drove them out of our neighborhood and towards the water.
This guy was not long for this world. Snake grabber in the right flat short shovel in the left.
The end result was my wife is getting some home made kustom shoes. I even got to use my crocodile Dundee knife.
This guy was not long for this world. Snake grabber in the right flat short shovel in the left.
The end result was my wife is getting some home made kustom shoes. I even got to use my crocodile Dundee knife.
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I am going to start packing this on my boat.
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Havasu is closed due to a snake infestation :yikes
DO NOT COME HERE :cool
DO NOT COME HERE :cool
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I'm more surprised .TCHB admitted to jetskiing[emoji1] [emoji23]
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Last trip out we were in the pontoon cruising just past standard wash cove and my wife spotted a snake heading to shore .Went over and checked it out .It was a california glossy snake about five feet long. He headed to shore and went into a hole in the bluff on the california side. they are non poisonous and actually eat rattlers.
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Not lake Havasu but still crazy.
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I hope that clears up the misconception the few times I have seen it posted that "Snakes do not strike in the water"
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I now look around the water before jumping in and when stepping off the boat onto land.
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This was in my shop in Bullhead a couple weeks ago. Now you tell me they swim? Damnit.
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I believe all snakes swim. :eek
You took a picture before you killed it? Fuck you are nuts. If that were here, all you would have gotten to see is the dead picture.
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I got called out by my friends for it having an accident with a shovel. Next time I have to kill it with my teeth.
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Shotgun or shovel, you pick, pal. I'm not saying shit about that. Do what you gotta do.
I just can't believe you risked taking a picture first. :eek
