Shots fired at trump

[monkeyswrench]

I don’t think he or the other guy in the video actually pulled the trigger.. I think it was another SS agent elsewhere?

On Prince's (Blackwater) first comments, he made the statement the counter shot was from over 400yds...no one else has mentioned any other shooters though?

 

[HotRod82]

so now they are admitting the shooter was on the roof for at least 24 minutes......that does it for me. Someone was in on it. This was without a doubt a deep state JFK style hit. When will be the next attempt?

 

[MPHSystems]

This makes me wonder if the 20 year old fired the shots, or was someone inside the building the actual shooter. Kinda like the Lee Harvey and grassy knoll. Somewhat same trajectory. Makes you wonder.

I have been to Dealey plaza, I have looked out the window from the 6th floor. Not that difficult of a shot. That said, I think the shot that killed Kennedy came from the storm drain in the curb below the grassy knoll. If you look at Zapruder frames 310-322, clearly his head moved up and back. I think Oswald probably make the Connelly and neck shot but frame 313 did NOT come from above and behind.

Alright, now where is my tinfoil? did I use it all up?

 

[MPHSystems]

so now they are admitting the shooter was on the roof for at least 24 minutes......that does it for me. Someone was in on it. This was without a doubt a deep state JFK style hit. When will be the next attempt?

Next time won’t be an attempt. Expect large collateral damage but they can’t afford to miss again.

 

[81Sprint]

Any real shooter with training wouldn't have missed I don't think?

I don't know, but for this kid to point his rifle at the cop that came up the ladder, and immediately return to prone position and sight in quickly on Trump to make a quick shot and damn near get the target seems fishy. Or he had some training we don't know of yet, but looking at him I highly doubt it.

 

[hallett21]

Tim Dillon had Alex Jones on his Podcast. I know he’s polarizing but he’s been right more than he’s been wrong.

He has an extreme take but you never know.

 

[81Sprint]

I have been to Dealey plaza, I have looked out the window from the 6th floor. Not that difficult of a shot. That said, I think the shot that killed Kennedy came from the storm drain in the curb below the grassy knoll. If you look at Zapruder frames 310-322, clearly his head moved up and back. I think Oswald probably make the Connelly and neck shot but frame 313 did NOT come from above and behind.

Alright, now where is my tinfoil? did I use it all up?

I have been there as well, even took the ride in the convertible Lincoln that takes you on the path with all the sound effects. It is surreal. That is an interesting take, I have not even thought about the storm drain. Definitely tin foil, or maybe not.

 

[MPHSystems]

Any real shooter with training wouldn't have missed I don't think?

Shooting from elevation, there is a lot less bullet drop. An A2 post on a 20” barrel is just about 10MOA so not quite 15” at 150 yards. put the center of the chest on top of the post and click bang dead….. except he was shooting from elevation and the bullet fallowed a different parabolic path POI at the elevation of his head.

 

[MPHSystems]

I have been there as well, even took the ride in the convertible Lincoln that takes you on the path with all the sound effects. It is surreal. That is an interesting take, I have not even thought about the storm drain. Definitely tin foil, or maybe not.

You can get a tour of the route in a convertable Lincoln?

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird

Lincoln’s secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy’s secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names were composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat

Lincoln was shot at the theatre named ‘Ford’.
Kennedy was shot in a car called ‘Lincoln’ made by Ford.

Lincoln was shot in a theatre and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theatre.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here is the kicker

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was in Marilyn Monroe

 

[81Sprint]

You can get a tour of the route in a convertable Lincoln?

JFK Custom Tours I Dallas, Texas

JFK Custom Tours offers customized historic tours in a fully restored 1963 Lincoln Convertible "Kennedy Car" in Dallas, Texas and Fort Worth, Texas.

www.jfkcustomtours.com

 

[wzuber]

Mindsetofthetruth on Instagram: "Pay close attention to the woman in the black hat!"

30K likes, 3,923 comments - mindsetofthetruth on July 15, 2024: "Pay close attention to the woman in the black hat!".

www.instagram.com

The expression on her face the entire time speaks volumes IMO. She was very purposeful as though she was following a predetermined plan or directive order. For what specifically would be an interesting investigation. Who is she associated with?

 

[TeamGreene]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">USSS DIRECTOR: SNIPERS WEREN&#39;T ON THE ROOF BECAUSE IT’S SLOPED<br><br>USSS Director Kim Cheatle on why there weren’t snipers on the roof from which Trump was shot:<br><br>&quot;That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point.<br><br>And so, you know, there&#39;s a safety factor that… <a href="https://t.co/qDOC1IdocZ">pic.twitter.com/qDOC1IdocZ</a></p>&mdash; Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) <a href="

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1813233048676098460

">July 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Had to research this as I couldn't believe she actually said this but it's true.

“That building in particular has a sloped roof at it’s highest point and so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof and so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building from the inside,” Cheatle said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-assassination-shot-07-16-24/index.html

 

[monkeyswrench]

Shooting from elevation, there is a lot less bullet drop. An A2 post on a 20” barrel is just about 10MOA so not quite 15” at 150 yards. put the center of the chest on top of the post and click bang dead….. except he was shooting from elevation and the bullet fallowed a different parabolic path POI at the elevation of his head.

Kid could have just guessed range with whatever optic he had, ran it up a couple clicks and hoped for the best.

I don't know, but for this kid to point his rifle at the cop that came up the ladder, and immediately return to prone position and sight in quickly on Trump to make a quick shot and damn near get the target seems fishy. Or he had some training we don't know of yet, but looking at him I highly doubt it.

That whole story still seems weird to me. From prone to pointed at the cop? If a cop saw him prone, cop kills shooter, cop's the new patron Saint of MAGA. Somehow the kid ninja flips, draws down, cop bails. He then flips back to cheek weld, and opens fire. If the first shot missed, the ninja in the kid should have been able to correct in the next few rounds I would think.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I've been in situations where I have to make business decisions with a lot less information. This seems extremely easy to me.

Anyone associated with the detail needs to be relieved from duty all the way to the top. There are just too many unanswered questions that promote a lack of confidence. You can sever the relationships in ways that don't have a lasting impact on anyone's career if that is a concern. If this was a business people would be walked. We should not feel compelled to guarantee employment. Since they are all public servants I think it is safe "We The People" ask loudly for action.

Sorry, you are all fired unless DJT explicitly requests your tenure continue. Case closed, too much risk, clean house. The time to allow for resignations has passed, cut checks.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Had to research this as I couldn't believe she actually said this but it's true.

“That building in particular has a sloped roof at it’s highest point and so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof and so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building from the inside,” Cheatle said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-assassination-shot-07-16-24/index.html

Ms. Snickers is employed by the Sgt. Pepsi...this is F'n embarrassing. There were drug dealers in LA with much better security protocols...

I've been in situations where I have to make business decisions with a lot less information. This seems extremely easy to me.

Anyone associated with the detail needs to be relieved from duty all the way to the top. There are just too many unanswered questions that promote a lack of confidence. You can sever the relationships in ways that don't have a lasting impact on anyone's career if that is a concern. If this was a business people would be walked. We should not feel compelled to guarantee employment. Since they are all public servants I think it is safe "We The People" ask loudly for action.

Sorry, you are all fired unless DJT explicitly requests your tenure continue. Case closed, too much risk, clean house. The time to allow for resignations has passed, cut checks.

Even us low level roofers would have been fired for risking harm to coworkers...and that's a job where you were kind of expected to get hurt, and we were all pretty much "bottom of the barrel"! If someone got hurt because you did something stupid, you were sent down the ladder.

 

[PlanB]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">USSS DIRECTOR: SNIPERS WEREN&#39;T ON THE ROOF BECAUSE IT’S SLOPED<br><br>USSS Director Kim Cheatle on why there weren’t snipers on the roof from which Trump was shot:<br><br>&quot;That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point.<br><br>And so, you know, there&#39;s a safety factor that… <a href="https://t.co/qDOC1IdocZ">pic.twitter.com/qDOC1IdocZ</a></p>&mdash; Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) <a href="

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1813233048676098460

">July 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Don't need snipers on the roof, you need to sterilize the building and any other structure in the area where a shot could be taken from. 140 yards is far too close to not lock that building down.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Don't need snipers on the roof, you need to sterilize the building and any other structure in the area where a shot could be taken from. 140 yards is far too close to not lock that building down.

The lady guarded Pepsi...we all know how how the soda cartels run. Don't question her skills

 

[was thatguy]

I have been to Dealey plaza, I have looked out the window from the 6th floor. Not that difficult of a shot. That said, I think the shot that killed Kennedy came from the storm drain in the curb below the grassy knoll. If you look at Zapruder frames 310-322, clearly his head moved up and back. I think Oswald probably make the Connelly and neck shot but frame 313 did NOT come from above and behind.

Alright, now where is my tinfoil? did I use it all up?

Have you explored the theory of the “3rd” shot coming from the follow car?
It would be a stray with eyes no doubt, but possible.

 

[wzuber]

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Additionally, the right front door to that building is open, you can see the rug on the floor beyond the left door. Who's to say he didn't access the roof from the inside of the building?

 

[snowhammer]

The lady guarded Pepsi...we all know how how the soda cartels run. Don't question her skills

Does she get credit for cleaning up their tarnished safety record where MJ got burned filming the commercial?

 

[TeamGreene]

I've been in situations where I have to make business decisions with a lot less information. This seems extremely easy to me.

Anyone associated with the detail needs to be relieved from duty all the way to the top. There are just too many unanswered questions that promote a lack of confidence. You can sever the relationships in ways that don't have a lasting impact on anyone's career if that is a concern. If this was a business people would be walked. We should not feel compelled to guarantee employment. Since they are all public servants I think it is safe "We The People" ask loudly for action.

Sorry, you are all fired unless DJT explicitly requests your tenure continue. Case closed, too much risk, clean house. The time to allow for resignations has passed, cut checks.

Agreed but JB doesn't fire anyone he's a complete opposite of DT in that respect DT is quick to do so because he's a business man and if in business you don't perform you're costing someone money and you should be gone. JB on the other hand we have areas that without a doubt that people should have been shown the door.
Afghanistan
SECDEF going MIA
Mayorkas "the border is secure"
SS head now fumbles the bag and gets someone killed and almost gets a former presidents head blown up on live tv.
But nothing will happen from this admin they are all a bunch of cunts and talk a good game but zero substance.

 

[whiteworks]

I think it’s interesting that we have a situation where there were literally 1000’s of cameras present and most likely hundreds rolling video as this occurred, and it’s still a shit show trying to figure out exactly what went down.

Then we have all these media outlets and commentators from the largest to the smallest platform spewing opinion as fact, creating whatever narrative they “feel” is right and everyone jumping on board with one they “like”.

I was not there, but I am pretty certain we can rule out the Clinton’s, they don’t miss. If this was actual deep state/conspiracy actions I don’t think Mr. Trump would have survived.

Is it possible that some dumbass kid grabbed his old man’s rifle, drove an hour from where he lived, found a ladder to a roof with a vantage point, climbed up there and got some shots off?

I’m not buying that scenario either

 

[500bbc]

No, not at all. There are far out conspiracies, like "Birds aren't real". Then there are others, like "Covid came from a lab". Some "conspiracies" become truths.

Well yes, a flat roof would allow for a recliner and an ice chest...
Could you imagine if it were Ms. Snickers on sniper watch?

Does that stupid fucking incompetant DEI cockgobbler know we have all seen the fucking VIDEOS????

 

[monkeyswrench]

Does that stupid fucking incompetant DEI cockgobbler know we have all seen the fucking VIDEOS????

To quote the great prophet, Orwell:
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength,"

The ministry of truth tells it, and we must believe it. Everyone's eyes lie...

 

[wzuber]

Just resign already.

Why would she resign? She knows she has the complete protection of the Biden administration, just like all the others protected from legal prosecution working for them.....
Untouchable...

 

[regor]

Planting the Biden seed?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/15/fbi-dhs-possible-retaliation-trump-shooting-00168549

 

[Sportin' Wood]

To quote the great prophet, Orwell:
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength,"

The ministry of truth tells it, and we must believe it. Everyone's eyes lie...

Nature is my only truth.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Nature is my only truth.

It was mine too, then I read about the duck billed platypus, hummingbirds and bumblebees. Confused the hell out of me

Somewhere along the line, I decided it was less about the "truth" we're taught, and more about being "true" to what you believe.

 

[hallett21]

Why would she resign? She knows she has the complete protection of the Biden administration, just like all the others protected from legal prosecution working for them.....
Untouchable...

Because we’re all dumber for hearing her speak .

I can’t imagine saying with a straight face that slanted roofs are a hazard for snipers.


Edit. I realize she knows it too but that’s the best the PR person could come up with.

 

[clarence]

Trump’s attempted assassin was rejected from school gun club

Gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks was also a member of local sports club – Clairton Sportsmen’s Club in Pennsylvania – which has a 200-yard rifle range

www.the-independent.com

 

[4Waters]

Planting the Biden seed?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/15/fbi-dhs-possible-retaliation-trump-shooting-00168549

Just keep him in his basement

 

[monkeyswrench]

Planting the Biden seed?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/15/fbi-dhs-possible-retaliation-trump-shooting-00168549

Deep state is through with him, and he can't win. Foreign media floated it yesterday as well, the concept of escalating for party sympathy.

As much as I dislike the man, it would be horrible. I posted this a few days ago on a separate thread...maybe I should have gone into politics? I was a violent youth, and I'm still an asshole. Crap, I could have been rich!

 

[stephenkatsea]

Has anyone heard where the other 2 spectators, who were also struck, were sitting? Assume it was in one of the bleacher sections? Have to wonder if he was intentionally ‘spraying’ the crowd? Or did incoming fire throw him totally off? How many shots were fired by the SS counter snipers? So many questions. Some of the answers would be beneficial. Some we’ll likely never know.

 

[CoolCruzin]

To summon it up
The democrats( the ones in charge of Biden ) wanted him dead.
The shooter missed and they took him out as planned
Total set up and the SS, FBI ,all in on it .

Trump needs a new security team .

 

[stonehenge]

\

Yes, way over my head. Still interested. Maybe speak to me like you might talk to a Labrador Retriever. I respond well to treats also.

Here is your treat.

Rogan O’Handley on Instagram: "Maybe next time don’t call for the assassination of a US President right after he got shot in the head? Just a thought🇺🇸"

240K likes, 8,731 comments - dc_draino on July 16, 2024: "Maybe next time don’t call for the assassination of a US President right after he got shot in the head? Just a thought🇺🇸".

www.instagram.com

 

[CLdrinker]

I just want to point out the 2 counter snipers were on a sloped roof.

So only the bad guys sloped roof was to dangerous for our guys who kill for living?

Um that’s BS

 

[HBCraig]

To summon it up
The democrats( the ones in charge of Biden ) wanted him dead.
The shooter missed and they took him out as planned
Total set up and the SS, FBI ,all in on it .

Trump needs a new security team .

I just read that SS removed a portion of Trumps security detail

 

[CLdrinker]

I just read that SS removed a portion of Trumps security detail

As they should. Can’t be trusted after fumbling that badly.

 

[jonnyd]

On Sunday morning my wife showed me a video which appeared to me was filmed seconds before the shooting took place. In the video the person filming picked up some sort of disturbance to the right of the podium. As the camera pans to the right there is some sort of action involving a water cannon. The video doesn't show who the water blast is being aimed at but it seemed like one of the cannons used for crowd control.

Almost as soon as you see the water blast, the camera turns quickly back to the podium as the shots are now ringing out.

Did anyone else see this video or hear what happened as I wondered if it was a diversion and other things were happening at the same time as the shooting.

 

[Badchoices03]

I think it’s interesting that we have a situation where there were literally 1000’s of cameras present and most likely hundreds rolling video as this occurred, and it’s still a shit show trying to figure out exactly what went down.

Then we have all these media outlets and commentators from the largest to the smallest platform spewing opinion as fact, creating whatever narrative they “feel” is right and everyone jumping on board with one they “like”.

I was not there, but I am pretty certain we can rule out the Clinton’s, they don’t miss. If this was actual deep state/conspiracy actions I don’t think Mr. Trump would have survived.

Is it possible that some dumbass kid grabbed his old man’s rifle, drove an hour from where he lived, found a ladder to a roof with a vantage point, climbed up there and got some shots off?

I’m not buying that scenario either

Similar to many people in this thread that talk conspiracy theory as facts??

There is a video somewhere, might be posted here, when the shooter is climbing the roof there seems to be a lady yelling “Crooks, what are you doing, Crooks get over here”…my thought was he was invited to that “party” by a friend that was just off the rally site and maybe in a split decision saw an opportunity where the SS let their guard down and he decided to take it….we don’t know, nobody on this site knows…

 

[C-2]

Has anyone heard where the other 2 spectators, who were also struck, were sitting? Assume it was in one of the bleacher sections? Have to wonder if he was intentionally ‘spraying’ the crowd? Or did incoming fire throw him totally off? How many shots were fired by the SS counter snipers? So many questions. Some of the answers would be beneficial. Some we’ll likely never know.

There's a link in this thread to a YT video of people trying to help the guy who got shot. At the end of the video they are carrying down an older lady, she looked unconscious, with a wound in her right side abdomen.

 

[JBZ]

Similar to many people in this thread that talk conspiracy theory as facts??

There is a video somewhere, might be posted here, when the shooter is climbing the roof there seems to be a lady yelling “Crooks, what are you doing, Crooks get over here”…my thought was he was invited to that “party” by a friend that was just off the rally site and maybe in a split decision saw an opportunity where the SS let their guard down and he decided to take it….we don’t know, nobody on this site knows…

I think you are referring to this tmz video. It sounds like it is a bystander yelling at there kids

Trump Rally Shooter Seen Opening Fire & Getting Killed Seconds Later in New Video

TMZ has obtained video showing the Trump rally gunman opening fire on the crowd before being shot and killed himself from the roof of a nearby building.

www.tmz.com

 

[Activated]

Planting the Biden seed?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/15/fbi-dhs-possible-retaliation-trump-shooting-00168549

They hopefully put the same FBI agents on this as they did the Whitmer kidnapping. Biden needs to be put out to pasture, not put down.

 

[Activated]

Holy Keystone Cops.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW video shows cops struggling to get to the Trump shooter’s location<br><br>Needed a vehicle to ram a fence<br><br>So how did he get a rifle &amp; ladder past all these fences?! <a href="https://t.co/zqbAdl09hv">pic.twitter.com/zqbAdl09hv</a></p>&mdash; DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) <a href="

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1813290490403430856

">July 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[CLdrinker]

I think you are referring to this tmz video. It sounds like it is a bystander yelling at there kids

Trump Rally Shooter Seen Opening Fire & Getting Killed Seconds Later in New Video

TMZ has obtained video showing the Trump rally gunman opening fire on the crowd before being shot and killed himself from the roof of a nearby building.

www.tmz.com

lol yeah not sure how anyone mistakes that for someone yelling at the shooter.

That’s a mom yelling at a dumbass kid to beat feet because of the bullets flying.

 

[RitcheyRch]

 

[CLdrinker]

Holy Keystone Cops.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW video shows cops struggling to get to the Trump shooter’s location<br><br>Needed a vehicle to ram a fence<br><br>So how did he get a rifle &amp; ladder past all these fences?! <a href="https://t.co/zqbAdl09hv">pic.twitter.com/zqbAdl09hv</a></p>&mdash; DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) <a href="

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1813290490403430856

">July 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How did the shooter get by all those fences? Really DC Draino? What a fuckin idiot.

Ever think he came from the opposite direction away from the podium. Jesus Christ

 

[wzuber]

Her statements are yet another failed attempt.......this one to "justify" her/their decision to make that PERFECT location available to the " mysterious....lone assasin".
DEI loser right there.

 

[wzuber]

How did the shooter get by all those fences? Really DC Draino? What a fuckin idiot.

Ever think he came from the opposite direction away from the podium. Jesus Christ

Maybe a satirical question? Sarcasm?
Or, just dumb?
The ladder was on the street side of the building, opposite the fenced side. Shown here.

 

[TeamGreene]

Just saw a replay of the waste of O2 USSS head Cheatle talk about the sloped roof and it being a safety issue. That is some grade A bullshit! The roof that he was on is maybe a 3 and 12 maybe but I would say closer to a 2. While the counter snipers were on at least a 4 and 12 maybe steeper. This gas bag needs to resign asap and quit the bullshit.