School Me on Glamis

[Sportin' Wood]

I've not been out to Glamis in thirty years. I spent my youth out there twice a month during the season and two weeks every summer. I learned to drive out there as a pre-teen. My Dad was a Looney Duners Buggy club member and Married one of Chuck Boardman's stepdaughters. Noey if any of you remember the old days. The log cabin was new when I was a kid; most of my memories are of the crappy little single-wide.

A buddy of mine has been bugging the crap out of me to go out there, so I told him I would go this weekend since perhaps the knuckleheads will be at KOH. I've got an X3 with paddles (I've never used the paddles) and a Rooftop tent. Thinking about picking a spot somewhere along that road that runs between the tracks and the baby dunes. Is that area still open for camping?

I guess I need a pass. Does one pass solve for both the parked truck and the UTV or do I need two? I assume I need to chain down everything in sight, including my trailer?

Any decent food out there?

Running down Friday after work looks like a three-hour drive; I come back to LHC Sat night or Sunday morning; I'm not sure; it depends on how much fun I'm having.

I have a flag and a helmet, and I don't drink. What else do I need to know except to keep my head on a swivel? I have 300-400 miles on my car since the last complete prep; I nut and bolt it before every trip. I'm guessing I'm going to burn a pile more fuel than average.

My buddy is a fool, BTW, so my hesitation stems from his past performances. He's telling me he has a plan that equals about 3% of an actual plan.

 

[rivermobster]

Still open. Camp out at Wash 22. You'll be close to China that way and you won't have to lock up your chit.

Stay Far away from the drags, olds and that end of the dunes. You'll avoid all the posers that way.

Food? Boradmanville is about it, but it's a long haul from 22. Take whatever you think you'll need.

 

[DaveH]

the difference between back in the day and now is how powerful the toys have become and how many idiots with no business driving them are out there.

you descried the wash road, its still there by the store and wash camping is the same. only note is the fence along the RR tracks blocking access to Bville thanks to some ASSHOLE who sues the RR for thier kids getting hit by the train crossing the tracks illegally. you can ONLY reach Bville now in a plated vehicle legally.

you can get a weekly camping pass at various locations, the gas station in PV sells them in you are coming from LHC. Blythe gas stations sell them but have been sold out recently.

your toy needs a CA non resident permit, i bet they sell those at power sports dealers in LHC.

other then that, there are some closed and marked areas you cant ride thanks to the infamous milk weed lawsuits, but most of the sand is now accessible.

as for being concerned about idiots, just stay away from olds and the usual watering holes and you will be fine. going on an off weekend helps a ton.

 

[Bowtiepower00]

You should be fine this weekend. I would consider camping in the flats up by vendors if you want to be in walking distance of food. There are a couple of food truck/ restaurants and a pizza spot. They are all decent. Or head down the washes if you prefer it to be a little quieter. The further you go the less busy it will be- but on an off weekend with KOH, it shouldn’t be too busy. Friday shouldn’t be bad at all, things will pick up on Saturday- but as stated most of the traffic stays in the popular places.

You need a pass for your truck and another for your SXS. At the very least, get the one for the truck. A quick online search will give you a list of places that sell them.

Theft is bad, if you leave camp make sure everything is secure- same at night when sleeping. If you break down do not leave a car unattended in the dunes, they are getting stripped.

 

[evantwheeler]

This is my opinion.

Buy the $35 off site weekly camping pass for your truck, they sell them at the gas stations in Blythe, probably have them in Havasu or Parker somewhere as well. When I lived in NV, I never bough a non-resident pass for my SXS and never got hassled. I didn't' see a single BLM ranger in the dunes or around camp last weekend, I would personally not worry about the SXS and play dumb/ignorant if was asked about it.

Where you camp depends on what you want out of your glamis driving experience. I like camping off of Gecko, usually far north on Cement Flats along the Hwy but that is only because we usually have large group sizes and you risk lots of fuckery driving down gecko trying to find an open area for 10 mohos and trailers without someone saving your spot. In a SxS my favorite dunes to drive are the smaller dunes paralleling Gecko and extending down south beyond Roadrunner a ways. You can put together some killer long runs going north/south and meandering east or west.

I hate the washes, its just not for me. Camped there once on a busy weekend, too much dust, and shit dunes to drive through to get to where we enjoy driving. There was TONs of room on the pads along Gecko Rd and around Gecko Loop last weekend for two trucks. Drive down Gecko and you'll find somewhere easy to camp. We dont venture too far, we basically don't go much further south or east than Flag pole, and definitely no further east than Oldsmobile hill. This is primarily because the dunes suck for bigger cars, they get tight, steep, soft soft sand, and lack rhythm.

I was just there for 3 days. It was choppy as hell EVERYWHERE and I was in a big sand rail. Its going to be rough for you.

Here is one man's assessment of the riding areas for glamis:

 

[Hammer]

I've not been out to Glamis in thirty years. I spent my youth out there twice a month during the season and two weeks every summer. I learned to drive out there as a pre-teen. My Dad was a Looney Duners Buggy club member and Married one of Chuck Boardman's stepdaughters. Noey if any of you remember the old days. The log cabin was new when I was a kid; most of my memories are of the crappy little single-wide.

A buddy of mine has been bugging the crap out of me to go out there, so I told him I would go this weekend since perhaps the knuckleheads will be at KOH. I've got an X3 with paddles (I've never used the paddles) and a Rooftop tent. Thinking about picking a spot somewhere along that road that runs between the tracks and the baby dunes. Is that area still open for camping?

I guess I need a pass. Does one pass solve for both the parked truck and the UTV or do I need two? I assume I need to chain down everything in sight, including my trailer?

Any decent food out there?

Running down Friday after work looks like a three-hour drive; I come back to LHC Sat night or Sunday morning; I'm not sure; it depends on how much fun I'm having.

I have a flag and a helmet, and I don't drink. What else do I need to know except to keep my head on a swivel? I have 300-400 miles on my car since the last complete prep; I nut and bolt it before every trip. I'm guessing I'm going to burn a pile more fuel than average.

My buddy is a fool, BTW, so my hesitation stems from his past performances. He's telling me he has a plan that equals about 3% of an actual plan.

Have you thought of going to Gordons Well instead? Duners Diner is right there and it seems much mellower than Glamis. Just a thought..

Personally, The washes suck and no way Im going all the way down to wash 22 to camp. It's an off weekend. I'd camp on Gecko and tool around the dunes over there. You can take sand highway and cruise to Vendors row, get food and head back. I think your best bet is pack a grill and make some hot dogs or something easy. You aren't new to camping in the desert.. I wouldn't bank on eating out there for dinner. I'd have a back up plan if it were me...

I took a 10 year hiatus from Glamis. I fell back in love with it. I just plan trips around holiday weekends. Like the weekend after a big weekend. I guess I'm getting old. My kids sure do love it though.

I took my dad Thanksgiving weekend a few years ago and he hadn't been 40 Years +, He lasted a day and went home. He hated staying in the Washes. LOL

Post plenty of pics! I'd love to hear a write up of what your thoughts were.....

 

[Bowtiepower00]

If you stay in Glamis, Duners is a nice Saturday morning breakfast/ lunch run down Sand Highway.

Last trip we had a couple of members of the group who took a truck down and met us there, so we all threw an extra 5 gallons for each car in with them, we were able to dune down and back. There are some gnarly ass dunes south of China before you get to the closed areas.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Thanks a lot for all the constructive feedback. This is helpful. We always stayed at Looney Duners camp, which was near the airstrip behind Boardmanville, or later, after Dad married Noey, we stayed at the house in Boardmanville. I knew where the Deepthroat VHS tape was stashed, so we boys always stayed entertained while the adults partied down at the store.

I never camped down at Gecko, so that seems like a good option. The best dunes were always a trek when I was a kid, so maybe Evan, you're right. We should head down there. Thanks for the update on the access to Boardmanville. We were thinking of the washes, so we were close for me to visit the old place, but since we will have to drive around, I guess it's best to skip the washes.

@Hammer, I hope I have the same experience you had and find a love affair again.

As a kid, I've had many great memories of running around like heathens unattended and the dunes as my personal playground. Times sure have changed; I was allowed to go out with a buddy at 12-13 years old and rage the dunes. We never got lost and did not die. Today, I can't imagine letting kids do that.

 

[Jonas Grumby]

I've not been out to Glamis in thirty years. I spent my youth out there twice a month during the season and two weeks every summer. I learned to drive out there as a pre-teen. My Dad was a Looney Duners Buggy club member and Married one of Chuck Boardman's stepdaughters. Noey if any of you remember the old days. The log cabin was new when I was a kid; most of my memories are of the crappy little single-wide.

A buddy of mine has been bugging the crap out of me to go out there, so I told him I would go this weekend since perhaps the knuckleheads will be at KOH. I've got an X3 with paddles (I've never used the paddles) and a Rooftop tent. Thinking about picking a spot somewhere along that road that runs between the tracks and the baby dunes. Is that area still open for camping?

I guess I need a pass. Does one pass solve for both the parked truck and the UTV or do I need two? I assume I need to chain down everything in sight, including my trailer?

Any decent food out there?

Running down Friday after work looks like a three-hour drive; I come back to LHC Sat night or Sunday morning; I'm not sure; it depends on how much fun I'm having.

I have a flag and a helmet, and I don't drink. What else do I need to know except to keep my head on a swivel? I have 300-400 miles on my car since the last complete prep; I nut and bolt it before every trip. I'm guessing I'm going to burn a pile more fuel than average.

My buddy is a fool, BTW, so my hesitation stems from his past performances. He's telling me he has a plan that equals about 3% of an actual plan.

Plan on not sleeping, I was like you , 2-3 times a month years ago, I went last year twice, never again, rude fucked up people, blasting there shit all night, riding through camp, all the bullshit. As the entitlement crowd takes over, it happens here too.

 

[evantwheeler]

Plan on not sleeping, I was like you , 2-3 times a month years ago, I went last year twice, never again, rude fucked up people, blasting there shit all night, riding through camp, all the bullshit. As the entitlement crowd takes over, it happens here too.

This experience is 1000% based on where you camp. The great thing about glamis is you can camp as close to or as far away from people as you want depending on the capability of your tow rig to drive on the sand. Your comment would be equivalent to juding the Havasu experience solely from parking in the channel next to some spring breakers in their daddies boat as they spray passers by and neighboring boats with supersoakers and play Kardi B’s W.A.P. on repeat as loud as they can.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

This experience is 1000% based on where you camp. The great thing about glamis is you can camp as close to or as far away from people as you want depending on the capability of your tow rig to drive on the sand. Your comment would be equivalent to juding the Havasu experience solely from parking in the channel next to some spring breakers in their daddies boat as they spray passers by and neighboring boats with supersoakers and play Kardi B’s W.A.P. on repeat as loud as they can.

I've been to Glamis a limited amount of times, and this is spot on. It's just like Havasu. All the people hang out in 5 places, and the rest is pretty empty. The place is what you make of it, just like anything else.

 

[evantwheeler]

@Hammer, I hope I have the same experience you had and find a love affair again.

I dont have kids, so my glamis enjoyment mostly comes from the thrill of driving hard and fast, and the challenge / satisfaction from putting together a smooth flowing drive around the terrain. Similar to the joy of the perfect ski run in fresh powder, except now i have a V8 strapped to my back, Im not freezing, and my knees are safe.

The second biggest enjoyment comes from spending time with people. The bigger the group, the better. Its always nice when there are 1 or 2 newcomers so you dont have to listen to the same old stories from your buddy that youve heard 40 times now. Dogs and kids add to the fun watching them all interact and enjoy the freedom of the space.

If you really like hanging out with this friend, i think youll have a good time. If he’s twisting your arm to go and youre reluctant, dont judge Glamis on this one trip…..

 

[rivermobster]

This experience is 1000% based on where you camp. The great thing about glamis is you can camp as close to or as far away from people as you want depending on the capability of your tow rig to drive on the sand. Your comment would be equivalent to juding the Havasu experience solely from parking in the channel next to some spring breakers in their daddies boat as they spray passers by and neighboring boats with supersoakers and play Kardi B’s W.A.P. on repeat as loud as they can.

Exactly right.

Glamis is HUGE!!!

Camp where it's convenient, and it WILL be a zoo.

Camp past wash 15, and there might be no one around. Gecko is Always busy.

Dust in the washes is limited to the single digit washes. Why? The wind blows across that the dunes from Gecko, the drags, to olds and then into the washes. So imagine what happens at the end of the day, when all the fuck heads go out to show off? Yep. It all blows into washes 1 though 10. You can't even breath at that point. It's NASTY!!!

Dune early in the morning, at the butt crack of dawn. All the posers will be asleep, and the long shadows will make it Easy to read the dunes.

Do NOT dune mid day with the sun high in the sky. Everything looks the same with no shadows. And all the idiots will be out in full force.

Sunset rides are great, but just watch out for the idiots. Night rides are great with a full moon.

Take spare belts and tools in a SxS. And lots of water to drink.

 

[rivermobster]

If you stay in Glamis, Duners is a nice Saturday morning breakfast/ lunch run down Sand Highway.

Last trip we had a couple of members of the group who took a truck down and met us there, so we all threw an extra 5 gallons for each car in with them, we were able to dune down and back. There are some gnarly ass dunes south of China before you get to the closed areas.

This is where all the best riding is, and why you Want to camp close to it.

 

[evantwheeler]

Theft is bad, if you leave camp make sure everything is secure- same at night when sleeping. If you break down do not leave a car unattended in the dunes, they are getting stripped.

Not saying this isnt true, but this is also likely tied to where you camp. Knock on wood, but since ive been going to Glamis in the last decade, we have not had one case of theft or vandalism at our camp. May be due to the fact there are usually dogs leashed up around our rigs, or may just be pure luck. I do take my steering wheel and key out of my car at night and lock my trailer, but i leave everything unlocked during the day out of bad habit of never locking anything.

 

[GRANT@FUNCO]

This is my opinion.

Buy the $35 off site weekly camping pass for your truck, they sell them at the gas stations in Blythe, probably have them in Havasu or Parker somewhere as well. When I lived in NV, I never bough a non-resident pass for my SXS and never got hassled. I didn't' see a single BLM ranger in the dunes or around camp last weekend, I would personally not worry about the SXS and play dumb/ignorant if was asked about it.

Where you camp depends on what you want out of your glamis driving experience. I like camping off of Gecko, usually far north on Cement Flats along the Hwy but that is only because we usually have large group sizes and you risk lots of fuckery driving down gecko trying to find an open area for 10 mohos and trailers without someone saving your spot. In a SxS my favorite dunes to drive are the smaller dunes paralleling Gecko and extending down south beyond Roadrunner a ways. You can put together some killer long runs going north/south and meandering east or west.

I hate the washes, its just not for me. Camped there once on a busy weekend, too much dust, and shit dunes to drive through to get to where we enjoy driving. There was TONs of room on the pads along Gecko Rd and around Gecko Loop last weekend for two trucks. Drive down Gecko and you'll find somewhere easy to camp. We dont venture too far, we basically don't go much further south or east than Flag pole, and definitely no further east than Oldsmobile hill. This is primarily because the dunes suck for bigger cars, they get tight, steep, soft soft sand, and lack rhythm.

I was just there for 3 days. It was choppy as hell EVERYWHERE and I was in a big sand rail. Its going to be rough for you.

Here is one man's assessment of the riding areas for glamis:

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Pretty spot on notes bud !

SW

Don't let all the hype scare you. Camp on Gecko Rd and you will have a blast

 

[Bigbore500r]

Still open. Camp out at Wash 22. You'll be close to China that way and you won't have to lock up your chit.

Stay Far away from the drags, olds and that end of the dunes. You'll avoid all the posers that way.

Food? Boradmanville is about it, but it's a long haul from 22. Take whatever you think you'll need.

There's also Duners Diner!

 

[rivermobster]

There's also Duners Diner!

Well since he's going for a weekend trip, his best bet is to just bring what he needs.

Now for a mid-week week long trip?

There are a Lot more recommendations to be explored.

 

[Hammer]

Thanks a lot for all the constructive feedback. This is helpful. We always stayed at Looney Duners camp, which was near the airstrip behind Boardmanville, or later, after Dad married Noey, we stayed at the house in Boardmanville. I knew where the Deepthroat VHS tape was stashed, so we boys always stayed entertained while the adults partied down at the store.

I never camped down at Gecko, so that seems like a good option. The best dunes were always a trek when I was a kid, so maybe Evan, you're right. We should head down there. Thanks for the update on the access to Boardmanville. We were thinking of the washes, so we were close for me to visit the old place, but since we will have to drive around, I guess it's best to skip the washes.

@Hammer, I hope I have the same experience you had and find a love affair again.

As a kid, I've had many great memories of running around like heathens unattended and the dunes as my personal playground. Times sure have changed; I was allowed to go out with a buddy at 12-13 years old and rage the dunes. We never got lost and did not die. Today, I can't imagine letting kids do that.

I'd recommend staying on Gecko, the sand drags are a ton of fun to watch. I'm still in awe of todays sand car. I never get tired of a fly by... Camp is close and easy to get away if you don't care for the crowd. Seeing how it's been years you might enjoy checking it out for a bit.

Head from Gecko to Duners Diner one day, maybe 30-45 minutes? No crowds, easy drive and a cool spot to have lunch or even breakfast...



Edit: I cant believe I have no photos of Duners Diner. We loved that place...

This was on a Saturday on MLK weekend in Gordons Well. It's not always a shit show..... This was my first time camping over on the 8. I really enjoyed it. Might be worth cruising over there to check out..

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Action Sports in LHC had both the Glamis week-long pass $35 cash and the out-of-state OHV pass $30 cash. I picked those up this afternoon. One of my Safeglo whips is bad; I tried to find someone in town who sold those, but I had no such luck. It still holds a flag, but the light does not work. I may see if I can pull it apart. If I get my shit together enough, I may swap them out for something else. After dinner, I'll head out to the storage/shop tonight and start swapping tires and doing a quick once-over of the CanAm.

 

[69hondo]

Go and have a blast.
If you dont like where you camp this time dont let it ruin it and go again and camp somewhere else.
Its not nearly as bad as social media makes it out to be.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Fingers crossed, it fits on the trailer with the paddle tires. Looks like I have 1" to spare. I found a few items that needed attention last night and corrected most of them, but I need to track down a 5/8"LH rod end as I've got one approaching the end of life. It will likely be acceptable for this trip, but it needs attention. The rear radius arms will need to be replaced (upgraded) in my next season prep; I can feel a slight bit of play developing. Damn, there are a lot of choices for those on the web.

I've habitually tried to, at minimum, nut and bolt my car before every ride. It is crazy how these rigs get beat on and stay together, but things do rattle loose.

It was nice to spend a quiet evening tinkering, but I learned I have a lot to do tonight if I want to leave LHC at a reasonable hour tomorrow. The 29"Paddle tires sure look small compared to my 34" Patagucci Milestars. I'm actually getting pretty excited about this trip now, regardless of my buddy switching plans three times a day.

Thanks for the PMs with even more details and advice.

 

[TPC]

No dune place better than Glamis.
Our truck and TH is a very heavy rig so we camp along Gecko rd and avoid sections where their is a camp host if possible because of the Karens.
Don't leave anything out secure everything.
Bad roads bring good people / good roads bring bad people.

 

[Icky]

Bring a spare belt and tools to change it just in case.

And the washes aren't that bad if you stay away from holidays and camp towards the back of them away from the road

 

[Boatymcboatface]

Went back on veterans weekend this year for the 1st time in 10yrs. Camped on gecko and it was ok but the kids didn’t have a safe place to ride where we were. Not their favorite place to camp so maybe one or two trips a year. It’s still my favorite place to ride a motorcycle but less and less of my friends ride now that we’re all in our 50s and they prefer mountains hard packed on long dualsport rides.


As far as crowds it was what I expected we went to olds Friday morning so it wasn’t crowded at all. Went to flag ceremony and it was crowded but that’s the point of going veterans weekend so it was really cool to see!

Rest of the areas like drags and vendors was busy but not too bad. Dunes really aren’t that crowded other than the areas you’d expect.

If I went back it would be in the washes from wash 11 to wherever we find a place where it’s open so the kids can ride.

 

[Badchoices03]

With a rooftop tent and a small trailer, if you don't like where you are camped the first night, seems easy enough to move somehwere else the next night....try the washes first, then move over to Gecko...see what you enjoy better..

 

[Ziggy]

Drove through Glamis on Monday, I'd never seen so much standing water there....ever.
It's been a decade+ since I've gone riding there.

 

[77charger]

First year in many where I have not gone out yet. Too many idiots with no flu or respect whatsoever. Been going since 85 midweek is best time get out by weekend.

 

[Hammer]

Went back on veterans weekend this year for the 1st time in 10yrs. Camped on gecko and it was ok but the kids didn’t have a safe place to ride where we were. Not their favorite place to camp so maybe one or two trips a year. It’s still my favorite place to ride a motorcycle but less and less of my friends ride now that we’re all in our 50s and they prefer mountains hard packed on long dualsport rides.


As far as crowds it was what I expected we went to olds Friday morning so it wasn’t crowded at all. Went to flag ceremony and it was crowded but that’s the point of going veterans weekend so it was really cool to see!
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Rest of the areas like drags and vendors was busy but not too bad. Dunes really aren’t that crowded other than the areas you’d expect.

If I went back it would be in the washes from wash 11 to wherever we find a place where it’s open so the kids can ride.

We havent had an issue camping on Gecko and the kids having a safe place to ride. At the same time we choose off weekends . This was Presidents Day weekend. We had probably 10-12 motorhomes with us. My kids love Glamis .

It can be hit and miss though. Some weekends will be a shit show. Some aren’t I guess. We should plan an RDP glamis meet up!

 

[Boatymcboatface]

We havent had an issue camping on Gecko and the kids having a safe place to ride. At the same time we choose off weekends . This was Presidents Day weekend. We had probably 10-12 motorhomes with us. My kids love Glamis .

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It can be hit and miss though. Some weekends will be a shit show. Some aren’t I guess. We should plan an RDP glamis meet up! View attachment 1327164

It wasn’t so much gecko it was the part of gecko we camped on but it wasn’t my 1st choice of spots but it’s what was saved for us. We were camped right at the end of the drags where everyone turns around. I doubt you’d let your kids ride there. I’ve been going to glamis since the 80s so fully aware of what glamis has to offer.

 

[Hammer]

It wasn’t so much gecko it was the part of gecko we camped on but it wasn’t my 1st choice of spots but it’s what was saved for us. We were camped right at the end of the drags where everyone turns around. I doubt you’d let your kids ride there. I’ve been going to glamis since the 80s so fully aware of what glamis has to offer.


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Yeah… we definitely wouldn’t camp there with the kids. I hear ya, sometimes the group pics a less than ideal spot to camp and you’re kind of stuck with it.

Luckily for us, our group has young kids so we try and get a spot that is safe for them to ride. It always achievable though.

 

[TPC]

Have you thought of going to Gordons Well instead? Duners Diner is right there and it seems much mellower than Glamis. Just a thought..

Personally, The washes suck and no way Im going all the way down to wash 22 to camp. It's an off weekend. I'd camp on Gecko and tool around the dunes over there. You can take sand highway and cruise to Vendors row, get food and head back. I think your best bet is pack a grill and make some hot dogs or something easy. You aren't new to camping in the desert.. I wouldn't bank on eating out there for dinner. I'd have a back up plan if it were me...

I took a 10 year hiatus from Glamis. I fell back in love with it. I just plan trips around holiday weekends. Like the weekend after a big weekend. I guess I'm getting old. My kids sure do love it though.

I took my dad Thanksgiving weekend a few years ago and he hadn't been 40 Years +, He lasted a day and went home. He hated staying in the Washes. LOL

Post plenty of pics! I'd love to hear a write up of what your thoughts were.....

Set a RDP group date we’ll be there.
Maynard too.
We’ll bring the RZR 200 for all the kids to ride.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Thanks, RDP, for all the advice; I have to say I found most of the comments rang true for anyone searching and looking for Glamis information.

I'll share my thoughts about Glamis after a thirty-year break. I had a great time. We ran a lot of miles; I wish I had kept track because we covered a lot of territory. It also occurred to me that I had never driven a 4-wheel vehicle in the big bowls when we found ourselves inevitably pushing the limits of our machines. My time in Glamis Big Dunes during my youth was limited to ATCs and motorcycles. While I learned to drive in Glamis at about twelve, we mostly stayed in the baby dunes and on the sand highway with that old VW bus.

My buddy drove from Vista, CA, and we found that Havasu and Vista are about equal length from Gecko Road, with him pulling directly in front of me at the turn from the highway. The drive from LHC to Glamis is easy. However, I timed the bridge closure on Mohave Road perfectly, as it is closed today until June.

I went elementary school style, while my buddy went graduate school and drug his DP and enclosed out, so we agreed that Gecko was likely a better option for him. I left Angie back at Islander in the DP and took the dingy.

My little Oil Burner Colorado pulls the UTV pretty well on this aluminum trailer with brakes. While the RTT might not be the best for sleeping around loud neighbors, it is quick and easy to deploy and recover. I was warm and comfortable, all be it interrupted by neighbors. (More on that later) We arrived on Friday just at sunset, changed my buddy's tires, and hit the dunes for a night run.

We never saw another single vehicle on Friday night. We heard a single vehicle in the distance but never saw lights. We saw what looked like a fox running across the desert while we enjoyed cool but comfortable temps and only a slight breeze. Note the flags are just barely moving on the whips. The sand was still pretty wet and tacky. The razorbacks were pretty sharp as a result of the sticky sand and the wind they must have had at some point. We returned to camp about 11:00 and settled in for the night to the most obnoxious generator known to man blaring in the camp next door. You all know the type, the cheap kind you find on a construction site held at wide-open throttle. Outside that one camper, the place was quiet, but as luck had it, we camped right next door.

About Midnight, there was an altercation and yelling between the loud Neighbor hater genny guy and someone, but the genny prevailed and ran steady until about 7:00 am when everyone was awake, and its noise was no longer of value. The guy certainly had more money invested in his vehicle wraps and stickers than he did his generator, but he might want to rethink having SXS Addicts plastered on his trailer right above his crappy genny. (More to this story coming)

I'm an early riser, and the time zone change screwed me up, so at 5:00 am, I was up and having my first cup of coffee. By 7:00 am, we were off to the dunes for a morning ride that lasted until just about 3:00 pm. We did take a moment to enjoy the sunrise with coffee, which was a highlight of my day.

The sand remained pretty tacky, but as the day progressed, it became mixed as the sunny side of the dunes started to dry out, and the shady side stayed wet. You had to be careful of where the car would stick and where it would slide. I had a few pucker factor moments when I misjudged the consistency of the sand. There were mainly no tracks, and for the most part, we never saw vehicles until we headed over to the vendor area late in the morning. The vendor area was pretty much a ghost town save for a few people; we found parking right up front with plenty available. Only one row was open. We assumed that many went to KOH. We never saw a single LEO or Ranger the whole trip. The offices seemed closed. I ran inside the Beach Store for a trip down memory lane. It seems primarily unchanged. We opted not to waste time going to Boardmanville and returned to camp to refuel.

After about an hour break, we took back to the dunes again before 5:00 pm for our twilight run. We hit the swingset, China Wall, and Lake Glamis, followed by another run in some giant dunes before watching the sunset.

On Saturday morning, a group rolled into camp between us and a loud genny SXS Addicts guy. They had the most impressive collection of old-school 250R ATCs I've seen. We discussed how rad the ATCs are, and I learned that one of them bought his in 1985 at the age of 15. it had only ever been to Glamis, and it looked brand new. Around 11:00, I think they had enough diplomacy with the generator and popped off the ring dingers next to his trailer for a solid ten minutes. Ring Ring Ring RIINNNNNNGGGGGG!

The friendly words were exchanged. Then the generator refires, and moments later, round two. The genny guy finally gave in, and we finally had quiet, save for the drunk folks rolling in and revving engines until about 2:00 am. That I can deal with, but the genny not so much.

The following day we talked to another neighbor, and he said that everyone around had tried to reason with him about that generator running all night, including an offer to loan an inverter machine, but the guy was reportedly a dick and had an attitude. It was reported that multiple people had called SXS Addicts. Either way, it's a terrible way to represent the massive stickers of sponsors or businesses plastered all over the truck and trailer.

My closing thoughts about Gecko.
The bathrooms were clean, the parking was excellent, and the location was fantastic. People are jerks. That happens everywhere; it is a bummer how inconsiderate and selfish people can be. We found a good flat spot to park, but what the heck is up with all the ghost campers?

25%-35% of all the rigs parked at the end of Gecko where we parked were empty. The sand was piled around them; they looked abandoned. It seems bullshit that people move into a spot and don't use it. The old guy we talked to said he had been there two weeks, and some of them had never had anyone visit. He said BLM just does not enforce the 14-day limit. Is that the ultimate fawk you money flex to leave your high dollar trailer or DP with an enclosed trailer out in the desert to get beat on by the elements and hold your pristine real estate for the off chance you want to visit Glamis?

Otherwise, it was a great trip. I likely won't go back this season, but I will certainly plan a trip for next year, likely the same weekend of KOH, and stay a little longer. If there were an RDP trip, I would likely go. Driving in the dunes is an incredible experience and really challenges your skill set. It is something I need to do more of. I'm not sure about camping; I would really like to have a quiet place close to good dunes and a view. I think I could put up with the occasional noise at Gecko if I could get a view spot on the outside and not be in the middle. I would love to sit in a chair and enjoy the sunrise over the dunes in quiet.

SXS Addicts, I won't be buying anything from you. You need to rethink your relationship with Bo Duke.

 

[rivermobster]

You rode from 7am to 3pm??? In the sand???

Those SxS's must hold Way more fuel than I woulda guessed!

Sounds like quite the adventure.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

You rode from 7am to 3pm??? In the sand???

Those SxS's must hold Way more fuel than I woulda guessed!

Sounds like quite the adventure.

Yeah, pretty much. I guess we were not burning as much fuel with the wet sand. I had heard that we should be prepared to burn a lot of fuel. The older I get, the faster I was. LOL

 

[evantwheeler]

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Thanks, RDP, for all the advice; I have to say I found most of the comments rang true for anyone searching and looking for Glamis information.

I'll share my thoughts about Glamis after a thirty-year break. I had a great time. We ran a lot of miles; I wish I had kept track because we covered a lot of territory. It also occurred to me that I had never driven a 4-wheel vehicle in the big bowls when we found ourselves inevitably pushing the limits of our machines. My time in Glamis Big Dunes during my youth was limited to ATCs and motorcycles. While I learned to drive in Glamis at about twelve, we mostly stayed in the baby dunes and on the sand highway with that old VW bus.

My buddy drove from Vista, CA, and we found that Havasu and Vista are about equal length from Gecko Road, with him pulling directly in front of me at the turn from the highway. The drive from LHC to Glamis is easy. However, I timed the bridge closure on Mohave Road perfectly, as it is closed today until June.

I went elementary school style, while my buddy went graduate school and drug his DP and enclosed out, so we agreed that Gecko was likely a better option for him. I left Angie back at Islander in the DP and took the dingy.

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My little Oil Burner Colorado pulls the UTV pretty well on this aluminum trailer with brakes. While the RTT might not be the best for sleeping around loud neighbors, it is quick and easy to deploy and recover. I was warm and comfortable, all be it interrupted by neighbors. (More on that later) We arrived on Friday just at sunset, changed my buddy's tires, and hit the dunes for a night run.

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We never saw another single vehicle on Friday night. We heard a single vehicle in the distance but never saw lights. We saw what looked like a fox running across the desert while we enjoyed cool but comfortable temps and only a slight breeze. Note the flags are just barely moving on the whips. The sand was still pretty wet and tacky. The razorbacks were pretty sharp as a result of the sticky sand and the wind they must have had at some point. We returned to camp about 11:00 and settled in for the night to the most obnoxious generator known to man blaring in the camp next door. You all know the type, the cheap kind you find on a construction site held at wide-open throttle. Outside that one camper, the place was quiet, but as luck had it, we camped right next door.

About Midnight, there was an altercation and yelling between the loud Neighbor hater genny guy and someone, but the genny prevailed and ran steady until about 7:00 am when everyone was awake, and its noise was no longer of value. The guy certainly had more money invested in his vehicle wraps and stickers than he did his generator, but he might want to rethink having SXS Addicts plastered on his trailer right above his crappy genny. (More to this story coming)

I'm an early riser, and the time zone change screwed me up, so at 5:00 am, I was up and having my first cup of coffee. By 7:00 am, we were off to the dunes for a morning ride that lasted until just about 3:00 pm. We did take a moment to enjoy the sunrise with coffee, which was a highlight of my day.

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The sand remained pretty tacky, but as the day progressed, it became mixed as the sunny side of the dunes started to dry out, and the shady side stayed wet. You had to be careful of where the car would stick and where it would slide. I had a few pucker factor moments when I misjudged the consistency of the sand. There were mainly no tracks, and for the most part, we never saw vehicles until we headed over to the vendor area late in the morning. The vendor area was pretty much a ghost town save for a few people; we found parking right up front with plenty available. Only one row was open. We assumed that many went to KOH. We never saw a single LEO or Ranger the whole trip. The offices seemed closed. I ran inside the Beach Store for a trip down memory lane. It seems primarily unchanged. We opted not to waste time going to Boardmanville and returned to camp to refuel.

After about an hour break, we took back to the dunes again before 5:00 pm for our twilight run. We hit the swingset, China Wall, and Lake Glamis, followed by another run in some giant dunes before watching the sunset.

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On Saturday morning, a group rolled into camp between us and a loud genny SXS Addicts guy. They had the most impressive collection of old-school 250R ATCs I've seen. We discussed how rad the ATCs are, and I learned that one of them bought his in 1985 at the age of 15. it had only ever been to Glamis, and it looked brand new. Around 11:00, I think they had enough diplomacy with the generator and popped off the ring dingers next to his trailer for a solid ten minutes. Ring Ring Ring RIINNNNNNGGGGGG!

The friendly words were exchanged. Then the generator refires, and moments later, round two. The genny guy finally gave in, and we finally had quiet, save for the drunk folks rolling in and revving engines until about 2:00 am. That I can deal with, but the genny not so much.

The following day we talked to another neighbor, and he said that everyone around had tried to reason with him about that generator running all night, including an offer to loan an inverter machine, but the guy was reportedly a dick and had an attitude. It was reported that multiple people had called SXS Addicts. Either way, it's a terrible way to represent the massive stickers of sponsors or businesses plastered all over the truck and trailer.

My closing thoughts about Gecko.
The bathrooms were clean, the parking was excellent, and the location was fantastic. People are jerks. That happens everywhere; it is a bummer how inconsiderate and selfish people can be. We found a good flat spot to park, but what the heck is up with all the ghost campers?

25%-35% of all the rigs parked at the end of Gecko where we parked were empty. The sand was piled around them; they looked abandoned. It seems bullshit that people move into a spot and don't use it. The old guy we talked to said he had been there two weeks, and some of them had never had anyone visit. He said BLM just does not enforce the 14-day limit. Is that the ultimate fawk you money flex to leave your high dollar trailer or DP with an enclosed trailer out in the desert to get beat on by the elements and hold your pristine real estate for the off chance you want to visit Glamis?

Otherwise, it was a great trip. I likely won't go back this season, but I will certainly plan a trip for next year, likely the same weekend of KOH, and stay a little longer. If there were an RDP trip, I would likely go. Driving in the dunes is an incredible experience and really challenges your skill set. It is something I need to do more of. I'm not sure about camping; I would really like to have a quiet place close to good dunes and a view. I think I could put up with the occasional noise at Gecko if I could get a view spot on the outside and not be in the middle. I would love to sit in a chair and enjoy the sunrise over the dunes in quiet.

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SXS Addicts, I won't be buying anything from you. You need to rethink your relationship with Bo Duke.

Glad you enjoyed yourself and had a safe trip. Bummer about the dummy next door. If you don't have a DP with you on your next trip, there are a myriad of camping options that'll make you feel like youre in BFE, but just a minutes drive to Gecko and the dunes in the SxS. Lots of open space between Gecko and the Canal to find a camp spot in if you are adventurous enough to air down the Colorado and find your own quiet slice of sand heaven, the closer to the canal the better though as the area just adjacent to Gecko on the West side is full of trails that you don't want to be parked in/on/near.

 

[Hammer]

Glad you had a good time @Sportin' Wood . I’ve noticed when you have the motor home it’ll block some of the generator noise from the next camp over. Also, if you are in a bigger group. The neighboring camp sites generators are further away when you take up more real estate (obviously) . I’ve never really had a problem with obnoxious generators next to me. Only when someone is clueless and sets their genny right next to my MH. Common courtesy would tell you to have it far away as possible from your own rig as well as others.

The ghost camps are my biggest gripe about Glamis. I’ve read they will start towing people. But I can’t imagine being able to tow a 40+ foot DP with a 25+ foot stacker. It’s inconsiderate and not really fair To everyone else. It’s right up there with leaving easy ups on a beach overnight at the lake to save your spot the next day. I wish there was more we could do to prevent the ghost camps.

Great write up and pictures

Maybe we can get an RDP glamis trip scheduled next season. That would be a blast!

 

[Sportin' Wood]

The ghost camps are my biggest gripe about Glamis. I’ve read they will start towing people. But I can’t imagine being able to tow a 40+ foot DP with a 25+ foot stacker. It’s inconsiderate and not really fair To everyone else. It’s right up there with leaving easy ups on a beach overnight at the lake to save your spot the next day. I wish there was more we could do to prevent the ghost camps.

I tend to ponder these types of questions while I drive. Hermanos Gutierez Radio on Pandora set the tone for my trip home, but sometimes I drive in silence. I've learned I appreciate the sound of silence as I get older. I was thinking about the ghost campers and how the BLM will never enforce the rules because it is better for them. Vacant trailers that are absent of people are easier to manage than a steady stream of visitors. In his book Desert Solitude, Edward Abby talks about the grievances of a federal ranger and how people are the biggest problem. That being said, I don't see any amount of complaining to a federal bureaucrat to yield improvements.

So how, then, do we influence change? This was the topic of my mental wandering as I drove past fields along the mighty Colorado River toward home.

If I were a regular dune runner who spent considerable time parked on Gecko Road, I would make it a habit of marking tires with a bright yellow tire crayon. I might go so far as to carry a clipboard and wear something that resembled an official uniform, but not so far as impersonating an officer of the law. My only answer is that my job is to walk this road and mark tires on abandoned vehicles. I'll be back in 14 days if asked. I would not say anything else.

If one was so bold, they might go a little further and print up a roll of these super sticky yet paper stickers that you can write a date on. The ones that don't peel off so easily and put them on windows, but that might be grounds for trouble when confronted. It's best to keep vandalism to tire crayons.

Now, the critical part of my evil plan. Snap a few photos and start posting on social media. "What's going on in Glamis with these marked tires? Could the BLM finally be towing vehicles on Gecko road?" "Hey, GD.com, have you seen this?" Boom, here comes the throngs of concerned Squaters to collect their derelict high-dollar camping machines to save them from the perceived threat of tow.

That is how I would go about it if I were so inclined.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Looks like you had a blast Jeff. Good to see that all went well for the most part. I have always wanted to take the car to Glamis. The one friend that has been many times has yet to go back since we have had our car. I enjoyed following your adventure.

 

[stonehenge]

I tend to ponder these types of questions while I drive. Hermanos Gutierez Radio on Pandora set the tone for my trip home, but sometimes I drive in silence. I've learned I appreciate the sound of silence as I get older. I was thinking about the ghost campers and how the BLM will never enforce the rules because it is better for them. Vacant trailers that are absent of people are easier to manage than a steady stream of visitors. In his book Desert Solitude, Edward Abby talks about the grievances of a federal ranger and how people are the biggest problem. That being said, I don't see any amount of complaining to a federal bureaucrat to yield improvements.

So how, then, do we influence change? This was the topic of my mental wandering as I drove past fields along the mighty Colorado River toward home.

If I were a regular dune runner who spent considerable time parked on Gecko Road, I would make it a habit of marking tires with a bright yellow tire crayon. I might go so far as to carry a clipboard and wear something that resembled an official uniform, but not so far as impersonating an officer of the law. My only answer is that my job is to walk this road and mark tires on abandoned vehicles. I'll be back in 14 days if asked. I would not say anything else.

If one was so bold, they might go a little further and print up a roll of these super sticky yet paper stickers that you can write a date on. The ones that don't peel off so easily and put them on windows, but that might be grounds for trouble when confronted. It's best to keep vandalism to tire crayons.

Now, the critical part of my evil plan. Snap a few photos and start posting on social media. "What's going on in Glamis with these marked tires? Could the BLM finally be towing vehicles on Gecko road?" "Hey, GD.com, have you seen this?" Boom, here comes the throngs of concerned Squaters to collect their derelict high-dollar camping machines to save them from the perceived threat of tow.

That is how I would go about it if I were so inclined.

If you start spending more than 2 days every 30 years, well then lets have a constructive discussion about enforcing some of the rules. Until then perhaps focus on another noble cause.

Glad you enjoyed your trip.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

If you start spending more than 2 days every 30 years, well then lets have a constructive discussion about enforcing some of the rules. Until then perhaps focus on another noble cause.

Glad you enjoyed your trip.

That is absolutely a fair statement—only a hypothetical exercise. I solve complex problems in my day job, so I'm wired to seek a path to solutions. I'm very aware I tend to be that guy who rolls into town and offers unwanted advice. I'm asked to do this a half dozen times daily at work, so it's a habit. I have to be careful when I play with others.

I appreciate the gentle reminder to stay in my lane. For what it's worth, this tendency is why I don't go to KOH—lots of shit show to correct and a guy at the helm who does not like my advice.

Next year, I just plan to use their camp as my own. It's abandoned, after all. Nice BBQ, view, and patio furniture to enjoy. LOL

 

[Bpracing1127]

I tend to ponder these types of questions while I drive. Hermanos Gutierez Radio on Pandora set the tone for my trip home, but sometimes I drive in silence. I've learned I appreciate the sound of silence as I get older. I was thinking about the ghost campers and how the BLM will never enforce the rules because it is better for them. Vacant trailers that are absent of people are easier to manage than a steady stream of visitors. In his book Desert Solitude, Edward Abby talks about the grievances of a federal ranger and how people are the biggest problem. That being said, I don't see any amount of complaining to a federal bureaucrat to yield improvements.

So how, then, do we influence change? This was the topic of my mental wandering as I drove past fields along the mighty Colorado River toward home.

If I were a regular dune runner who spent considerable time parked on Gecko Road, I would make it a habit of marking tires with a bright yellow tire crayon. I might go so far as to carry a clipboard and wear something that resembled an official uniform, but not so far as impersonating an officer of the law. My only answer is that my job is to walk this road and mark tires on abandoned vehicles. I'll be back in 14 days if asked. I would not say anything else.

If one was so bold, they might go a little further and print up a roll of these super sticky yet paper stickers that you can write a date on. The ones that don't peel off so easily and put them on windows, but that might be grounds for trouble when confronted. It's best to keep vandalism to tire crayons.

Now, the critical part of my evil plan. Snap a few photos and start posting on social media. "What's going on in Glamis with these marked tires? Could the BLM finally be towing vehicles on Gecko road?" "Hey, GD.com, have you seen this?" Boom, here comes the throngs of concerned Squaters to collect their derelict high-dollar camping machines to save them from the perceived threat of tow.

That is how I would go about it if I were so inclined.

I have a friend who gets his spot in roadrunner and doesn’t move from Halloween to Easter or so every year. He goes almost every weekend. And in the group there, there is always one family present every weekend. The group might go 3-5 days max with no one there.

Personally I think it’s wrong what he is doing but at the same time. He goes to the dunes almost 100 days a year too

 

[evantwheeler]

I have a friend who gets his spot in roadrunner and doesn’t move from Halloween to Easter or so every year. He goes almost every weekend. And in the group there, there is always one family present every weekend. The group might go 3-5 days max with no one there.

Personally I think it’s wrong what he is doing but at the same time. He goes to the dunes almost 100 days a year too

I'm only jealous of the amount of time those folks can dedicate to the sand, not of their camping spot.

 

[Hammer]

I tend to ponder these types of questions while I drive. Hermanos Gutierez Radio on Pandora set the tone for my trip home, but sometimes I drive in silence. I've learned I appreciate the sound of silence as I get older. I was thinking about the ghost campers and how the BLM will never enforce the rules because it is better for them. Vacant trailers that are absent of people are easier to manage than a steady stream of visitors. In his book Desert Solitude, Edward Abby talks about the grievances of a federal ranger and how people are the biggest problem. That being said, I don't see any amount of complaining to a federal bureaucrat to yield improvements.

So how, then, do we influence change? This was the topic of my mental wandering as I drove past fields along the mighty Colorado River toward home.

If I were a regular dune runner who spent considerable time parked on Gecko Road, I would make it a habit of marking tires with a bright yellow tire crayon. I might go so far as to carry a clipboard and wear something that resembled an official uniform, but not so far as impersonating an officer of the law. My only answer is that my job is to walk this road and mark tires on abandoned vehicles. I'll be back in 14 days if asked. I would not say anything else.

If one was so bold, they might go a little further and print up a roll of these super sticky yet paper stickers that you can write a date on. The ones that don't peel off so easily and put them on windows, but that might be grounds for trouble when confronted. It's best to keep vandalism to tire crayons.

Now, the critical part of my evil plan. Snap a few photos and start posting on social media. "What's going on in Glamis with these marked tires? Could the BLM finally be towing vehicles on Gecko road?" "Hey, GD.com, have you seen this?" Boom, here comes the throngs of concerned Squaters to collect their derelict high-dollar camping machines to save them from the perceived threat of tow.

That is how I would go about it if I were so inclined.

If I didn't have better things to do with my time I'd entertain some of this advice. I have a hard enough time protecting my glass house...

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I'm only jealous of the amount of time those folks can dedicate to the sand, not of their camping spot.

I'm jealous of how they can leverage the tax code and pay for all the toys on the company dime. This Jeep is a farm implement from the Central Valley of California. I think my 2025 goal might be to start another business.

 

[evantwheeler]

I'm jealous of how they can leverage the tax code and pay for all the toys on the company dime. This Jeep is a farm implement from the Central Valley of California. I think my 2025 goal might be to start another business.
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That looks like a nicely outfitted “Tractor”! Must be a Massey guy

 

[TPC]

Ghost Camps and a lot of them taking up a lot of camping space and land barons taping off huge areas were the only issues we've encountered.

 

[WTMFA]

I tend to ponder these types of questions while I drive. Hermanos Gutierez Radio on Pandora set the tone for my trip home, but sometimes I drive in silence. I've learned I appreciate the sound of silence as I get older. I was thinking about the ghost campers and how the BLM will never enforce the rules because it is better for them. Vacant trailers that are absent of people are easier to manage than a steady stream of visitors. In his book Desert Solitude, Edward Abby talks about the grievances of a federal ranger and how people are the biggest problem. That being said, I don't see any amount of complaining to a federal bureaucrat to yield improvements.

So how, then, do we influence change? This was the topic of my mental wandering as I drove past fields along the mighty Colorado River toward home.

If I were a regular dune runner who spent considerable time parked on Gecko Road, I would make it a habit of marking tires with a bright yellow tire crayon. I might go so far as to carry a clipboard and wear something that resembled an official uniform, but not so far as impersonating an officer of the law. My only answer is that my job is to walk this road and mark tires on abandoned vehicles. I'll be back in 14 days if asked. I would not say anything else.

If one was so bold, they might go a little further and print up a roll of these super sticky yet paper stickers that you can write a date on. The ones that don't peel off so easily and put them on windows, but that might be grounds for trouble when confronted. It's best to keep vandalism to tire crayons.

Now, the critical part of my evil plan. Snap a few photos and start posting on social media. "What's going on in Glamis with these marked tires? Could the BLM finally be towing vehicles on Gecko road?" "Hey, GD.com, have you seen this?" Boom, here comes the throngs of concerned Squaters to collect their derelict high-dollar camping machines to save them from the perceived threat of tow.

That is how I would go about it if I were so inclined.

Been going to Glamis for 30yrs and it's definitely getting harder to find a hard packed spot for a moho especially on big weekends. If I'm not working I'm usually the one that goes out a week in advance to find a Pad on Gecko Rd. Most of my friends leave their rigs in storage nearby and once I find some real estate they'll have their rigs delivered and I'll babysit camp for a week + or - a few days until they get there. The rangers do come by asking questions and they've said they'll tow if the rig appears abandoned for 3 days or more (I've seen them do it) but I can't explain how some of the ballers (on Pad 3&5) leave their rigs there all season. I know some of them pay people to stay there while they're gone but that doesn't explain how they bypass the 14 day camping limit. It really boils down to enforcement (which is very inconsistent)
Rules/laws are meant to make things fair for everyone but when they're not enforced properly you wind having to do what I do.

On a side note, I just returned from my first trip to KoH, it was quite the experience!
I remember your wife talking about it in the early years of RDP and it was pretty cool to finally check it out

 

[throttle]

Sounds like a great trip @Sportin' Wood ! Brings back some good memories of fun times, I do miss being there sometimes. Thanks for sharing your trip!