RZR XP4 Question/Advice??

[Badchoices03]

Currently in the market to buy a XP4, my budget of about $20k, gets me a 2017-2019 mostly stock or a 2015-2017 with most the aftermarket stuff I would want (cage, seats, belts, lights, radio, etc).

My budget is my budget, I am not going to be able to put $20k then go and buy all the extras separately, so I am leading towards like a 2016ish with the stuff I want on it.

Anything suggestions, thoughts, things to look for, etc?

 

[Bpracing1127]

@LargeOrangeFont here is your buyer for your turn key machine

 

[DLC]

How about a nice Clean RZR !
There have been rumors that a rzr1000 4 seat will be for sale shortly!

Excellent condition ! lots of extras ! Babied !
lights, radios. Shock work, new tires, amber rear light, windshield, tire carrier….

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

My 2016 XP41k does not have the cage or seats. It does have pretty much everything else you might want. Suspension is dialed, and it has the 2.5" big bore front shocks and reclined lowered stock seats with 5 point 3 inch harnesses up front and 4 point 2 inch harnesses in back. All seats have the harness pass throughs. All known XP41k weak points have been addressed - upgraded billet radius rods with fresh heim joints, double shear Cognitio radius rod plate, Eibach sway bar mount brace and sway bar endlinks, Fuel filter O ring replaced, TBAP sensor replaced/wiring upgraded. The car rides killer so I never felt I needed the aftermarket seats. I’ve spent 12+ hours in the car at a time, and was very comfortable. Car is fully sorted and prepped, ready for the season, with 5 new tires and fresh upgraded primary and secondary clutches. Car has a Evo stage 1 flash for 91 octane fuel, touchscreen Lowrance GPS, Intercom and radio.

I bought the car with like 700 miles. I do a full service every 50 hours including changing all fluids, servicing all greaseable joints, Clutch service, and full nut and bolt of the car. It has a 2020 take out trans with 200 miles on it and the entire top end was just fully redone by Benchmark Performance in San Diego. All new valves, guides, fresh valve job and it was converted to shim buckets for cheap and easy valve adjustments. Also all timing chain guides were upgraded to newest spec, and a manual timing chain tensioner was installed... (no more clacking on startup). Car has 5000 miles, but has been maintained with an open checkbook, has been used but not abused. Comes with dry storage/tool box shown with spare belts, parts, and xp41k specific belt change tools, Also comes with the spare 1gal fuel canister shown mounted in the spare wheel.

@DLC has rode in the car over a 500 mile trip in a single weekend and can vouch for the cars ride and performance.

If this is not the car for you feel free to ask me any questions, happy to help. My one piece of advice - If you truly want one with an aftermarket cage, buy one with a cage. Find the car that is closest to what you want in your budget that is in the best condition. Don't buy a used car and waste thousands and thousands building it into what you want, unless you get a screaming deal on the car somehow.

 

[Badchoices03]

@LargeOrangeFont beautiful car, where is located?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

@LargeOrangeFont beautiful car, where is located?

Thanks. It is in Southern UT at the moment. It can be in Havasu, or Vegas pretty easily.
If you are interested I can go through a full rundown of what has been done to the car.

 

[Badchoices03]

Nice car, but you are slightly over my budget, and even vegas would be a 4 hour drive for me

 

[Bpracing1127]

Nice car, but you are slightly over my budget, and even vegas would be a 4 hour drive for me

You are not going to find a well equipped car like this for this price. Work with him. I’m sure LOF can make a reason to go to so cal.

This car suspension is dialed and has some big upgrades. That cost thousands like shocks, wheels and tires. And gps and radio. Solid car for the money!!!

 

[DLC]

No Pressure!

I’d buy this and add a cage in your leisure!

It’s turn key
It’s a sold car!

rides very nice! like LOF said we did a 500 mile, 3 day ride and I rode shot gun, it was very comfortable! I’m a bigger guy plenty of leg room & seat felt really good, wasn’t fatigued at the end of the day.

It has good power and suspension works great! Very stable, predictable car….

 

[DLC]

I really like the blue on the car! You don’t see it all the time.

Where are you in so cal?

I’m in Escondido, I’m sure we could work something out ….

 

[beerrun]

My 2016 XP41k does not have the cage or seats. It does have pretty much everything else you might want. Suspension is dialed, and it has the 2.5" big bore front shocks and reclined lowered stock seats with 5 point 3 inch harnesses up front and 4 point 2 inch harnesses in back. All seats have the harness pass throughs. All known XP41k weak points have been addressed - upgraded billet radius rods with fresh heim joints, double shear Cognitio radius rod plate, Eibach sway bar mount brace and sway bar endlinks, Fuel filter O ring replaced, TBAP sensor replaced/wiring upgraded. The car rides killer so I never felt I needed the aftermarket seats. I’ve spent 12+ hours in the car at a time, and was very comfortable. Car is fully sorted and prepped, ready for the season, with 5 new tires and fresh upgraded primary and secondary clutches. Car has a Evo stage 1 flash for 91 octane fuel, touchscreen Lowrance GPS, Intercom and radio.

I bought the car with like 700 miles. I do a full service every 50 hours including changing all fluids, servicing all greaseable joints, Clutch service, and full nut and bolt of the car. It has a 2020 take out trans with 200 miles on it and the entire top end was just fully redone by Benchmark Performance in San Diego. All new valves, guides, fresh valve job and it was converted to shim buckets for cheap and easy valve adjustments. Also all timing chain guides were upgraded to newest spec, and a manual timing chain tensioner was installed... (no more clacking on startup). Car has 5000 miles, but has been maintained with an open checkbook, has been used but not abused. Comes with dry storage/tool box shown with spare belts, parts, and xp41k specific belt change tools, Also comes with the spare 1gal fuel canister shown mounted in the spare wheel.

@DLC has rode in the car over a 500 mile trip in a single weekend and can vouch for the cars ride and performance.

If this is not the car for you feel free to ask me any questions, happy to help. My one piece of advice - If you truly want one with an aftermarket cage, buy one with a cage. Find the car that is closest to what you want in your budget that is in the best condition. Don't buy a used car and waste thousands and thousands building it into what you want, unless you get a screaming deal on the car somehow. View attachment 1148333 View attachment 1148334 View attachment 1148350 View attachment 1148352 View attachment 1148353 View attachment 1148354 View attachment 1148355 View attachment 1148356 View attachment 1148357 View attachment 1148358 View attachment 1148359 View attachment 1148360 View attachment 1148361 View attachment 1148362

What are you asking

 

[Badchoices03]

I really like the blue on the car! You don’t see it all the time.

Where are you in so cal?

I’m in Escondido, I’m sure we could work something out ….

Im in Canyon Lake, not too far from you.

 

[Badchoices03]

I was looking at something like this, I am not in a hurry and am willing to wait and/or travel a bit for the right car.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

What are you asking

$21k for a RDP member for everything including spares and a pair of headsets.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I was looking at something like this, I am not in a hurry and am willing to wait and/or travel a bit for the right car.

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That looks like a decent car. On something like or any used RZR like that you’ll just want to check everything for play, including the clutches. Fixing things is pretty easy, you just want to know what you are up against.

I spent more on the suspension, whereas he put money into a cage.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Nice car, but you are slightly over my budget, and even vegas would be a 4 hour drive for me

Do you ever get to Havasu, Parker or Vegas?

 

[Badchoices03]

Do you ever get to Havasu, Parker or Vegas?

Not as often as I’d like, and probably not anytime soon, although wife and I are talking about doing the RDP Regatta

 

[Badchoices03]

@LargeOrangeFont I am looking at 2017 with low hours, looks pretty clean and well taken care of (probably not as clean as your though) and it has the Reflex widening kit on it. Have you heard of it? Any thoughts?

 

[BIGRED9158]

@LargeOrangeFont I am looking at 2017 with low hours, looks pretty clean and well taken care of (probably not as clean as your though) and it has the Reflex widening kit on it. Have you heard of it? Any thoughts?
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I have heard of them guy we camp with has it on his 2 seater the best way to describe it budget long travel his rides pretty nice go on there website it will explain it more or maybe lof can explain it. Are you pretty firm on your budget?

 

[SmilesPerGallon]

My 2017 is going up for sale…

 

[Badchoices03]

Yeah their website describes it more a stabilizing widening kit, doesn’t really give you more travel, but reduces body roll, which I think the wife would like. My main concern is the longer axles, could be a problem cause you can’t just grab a readily available standard axle. I guess you would need to carry extra ones with you.

Yes my budget is pretty firm

 

[Badchoices03]

View attachment 1148938 My 2017 is going up for sale…

Details?

 

[BIGRED9158]

Yeah their website describes it more a stabilizing widening kit, doesn’t really give you more travel, but reduces body roll, which I think the wife would like. My main concern is the longer axles, could be a problem cause you can’t just grab a readily available standard axle. I guess you would need to carry extra ones with you.

Yes my budget is pretty firm

My buddy has never blown an axle and he drives it like he stole it!! Where do you plan on doing most of your riding?

 

[Badchoices03]

My buddy has never blown an axle and he drives it like he stole it!! Where do you plan on doing most of your riding?

Ocotillo mostly, Glamis occasionally

 

[BIGRED9158]

Ocotillo mostly, Glamis occasionally

What’s stopping you from putting 20k down on something that’s already built from a dealer you payment would be pretty cheap with that much down

 

[BIGRED9158]

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[Badchoices03]

What’s stopping you from putting 20k down on something that’s already built from a dealer you payment would be pretty cheap with that much down

I don’t like having payments everything I own, besides my house, I put a budget together for, kept to that budget and paid cash.

 

[SmilesPerGallon]

Details?

PM sent.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

View attachment 1148938 My 2017 is going up for sale…

Killer car. GLWS

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

@LargeOrangeFont I am looking at 2017 with low hours, looks pretty clean and well taken care of (probably not as clean as your though) and it has the Reflex widening kit on it. Have you heard of it? Any thoughts?
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Those are OK. I would think they have some steering geometry quirks. You will want the shocks resprung and revalved for the longer travel if it is not done already. I don't recall if they use proprietary axles. If they do, you will want spares, as they will be harder to find in a pinch.

 

[DLC]

I think the wider stance would be better in the dunes. Off camber duning.
Not so much in the open desert riding. If the shock is the same length.

A lot of people tip over 72 in wide can ams trying to do doughnuts…. They are usually new owners!

Rolling the car is about driver ability or LACK of Ability….

Such as going to fast into a turn, not seeing the whats out frt of you, over / under reacting to a situation that comes up, trying to turn the car while locking up the brake’s doesn’t end up well.

I’d want a list of other add on’s before that.

 

[Badchoices03]

I think the wider stance would be better in the dunes. Off camber duning.
Not so much in the open desert riding. If the shock is the same length.

A lot of people tip over 72 in wide can ams trying to do doughnuts…. They are usually new owners!

Rolling the car is about driver ability or LACK of Ability….

Such as going to fast into a turn, not seeing the whats out frt of you, over / under reacting to a situation that comes up, trying to turn the car while locking up the brake’s doesn’t end up well.

I’d want a list of other add on’s before that.

This is from the ad

REFLEX wide travel kit.
Method wheels w/ Pro Armor tires. Matching spare as well.
Madigan spare tire carrier.
Full Pro Armor roll cage w/ slam latch doors
Rugged Radios communication w/ in car communication and Bluetooth.
Pro Armor rear speakers
Full skid plates underneath car.
4 PRP seats w/ 4-point harnesses.
Polaris locking replacement seat box.
Rugged Radios cool air pump for helmets.
Two 5150 LED lighted whips.
Just to mention a few of the items on the car.
Low miles for its age, (1776 miles)

 

[Bpracing1127]

the reflex kit is garbage. worst thing you can do to the rzr. it wont handle for crap because all the geometry points have changed. i bet it pushes hard in the turns.

 

[DLC]

the reflex kit is garbage. worst thing you can do to the rzr. it wont handle for crap because all the geometry points have changed. i bet it pushes hard in the turns.

I had to do a little investigation

all this kit does is widen the mounting brackets outward 4 inch per side, reuses stock arms and shocks, new axles shafts, maybe reuses the same stock CV joint. I honestly don’t see the advantage to the kit, I don’t want to bad mouth the kit as I don’t know enough about it…. the shocks are not at the same angle as stock, they are layed out flatter, not steeper like up down, that alone should require shock work, more leverage and softer angle….


Before you actually buy, talk to some RZR suspension guys…

fox
walker evans
king
shock Threapy

make a list of questions and ask them all the same questions! So you’ll get some reasonable answers

 

[DLC]

For $2500 you can get some kit ass shock work done that will make Shintoos magic carpet seems bumpy ….

have the shocks been resprung / valved ? For the kit

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

the reflex kit is garbage. worst thing you can do to the rzr. it wont handle for crap because all the geometry points have changed. i bet it pushes hard in the turns.

It’s going to give you a ton of bump steer, and no extra travel.

 

[Badchoices03]

For $2500 you can get some kit ass shock work done that will make Shintoos magic carpet seems bumpy ….

have the shocks been resprung / valved ? For the kit

Yeah I'm not sure of the kit, thats why I asked here...doing some research online, albeit not very much...everybody seems to have had positive reviews, the only real negative stuff has been on here, even @BIGRED9158 has a buddy with real world experience that seems to like it...everywhere I have read has said that the shocks maintain the exact same geometry, although I know shock work can always improve in any application, it says its not necessary.

One thing that does make this kit interesting, it says it reduces bodyroll by 80%, if that means I can get a few less screams from the wife in turns when she says it feels like we are going to roll...then its a win for me...lol

Don't get me wrong, I probably wouldn't go out and buy this kit, but this car has everything I want, color, low mileage, somewhat nearby, and in my price range...looking at the install instructions, I bet if it sucks, I can probably get some stock axles and take everything off and go back to stock.

 

[Bpracing1127]

I doubt it reduces body roll at all. Nothing changed other than it’s wider.

The body roll on these machines are caused by low tire pressures and soft springs and sway bars. The model years you are looking at do not have front sway bars (makes a big difference, I had one on mine)

If body roll is a problem, do a spring kit. And buy a take off front arm kit from a turbo rzr and now you have a front sway bar too.

A properly setup 64” car will out handle the reflex car in every way possible.

These cars don’t have a ton of roll with spring kits unless your driving very hard on grippy surfaces

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yeah I'm not sure of the kit, thats why I asked here...doing some research online, albeit not very much...everybody seems to have had positive reviews, the only real negative stuff has been on here, even @BIGRED9158 has a buddy with real world experience that seems to like it...everywhere I have read has said that the shocks maintain the exact same geometry, although I know shock work can always improve in any application, it says its not necessary.

One thing that does make this kit interesting, it says it reduces bodyroll by 80%, if that means I can get a few less screams from the wife in turns when she says it feels like we are going to roll...then its a win for me...lol

Don't get me wrong, I probably wouldn't go out and buy this kit, but this car has everything I want, color, low mileage, somewhat nearby, and in my price range...looking at the install instructions, I bet if it sucks, I can probably get some stock axles and take everything off and go back to stock.

The body roll number is just a theoretical jargon number. You are just moving all the pivot points outward and lowering the roll center with that kit so you have the same travel but a wider stance. This Lowers the roll center and theoretically the car is less likely to roll, but the car is also wider with the same suspension length, so you are inputting more roll over bumps. but moving the pivot points out adds more chassis input over bumps. I don’t know what the bump steer change is, but it is not better than stock which can cause steering dirtiness and instability.

Anyway, if it is what you want, do it. And if you don’t like it, it does look removable.

 

[Badchoices03]

After looking at some cars this weekend, @LargeOrangeFont car looks like it’s off the showroom, some of these cars are fkn beat lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

After looking at some cars this weekend, @LargeOrangeFont car looks like it’s off the showroom, some of these cars are fkn beat lol

There are non beaten cars out there.. just takes some time. Good look with the search

 

[BIGRED9158]

Lots of car for the money turn the boost down and you would have a very reliable car for the family

2016 Polaris RZR XP4 1000

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[LargeOrangeFont]

Lots of car for the money turn the boost down and you would have a very reliable car for the family

2016 Polaris RZR XP4 1000

2016 Polaris RZR XP4 1000 Original Owner Method Beadlock Rims w/32″ Tires Super ATV Front & Rear Arms Houser Racing Front Bumper Super ATV Full Skid Plate Lighted Whips Rear Tire Rack Aftermarket Stereo Aftermarket Assassin Primary & Secondary Clutches 4,300 Miles $17,500. Contact @rockbong or...

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My personal opinion - Never buy a car, boat, or toy with a "new engine" with "nearly 0 miles" on it. It is always a bucket of problems.

 

[Mikes56]

Whatever you do, don’t buy a non-turbo if you plan on going to Glamis. I had a 2015 non-turbo and it wouldn't climb the big dunes with 4 people in it.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Whatever you do, don’t buy a non-turbo if you plan on going to Glamis. I had a 2015 non-turbo and it wouldn't climb the big dunes with 4 people in it.

I agree here. I had mine at Glamis once. With paddles I would call it adequate in the sand. The rest of the time in every other terrain the non turbo 1000 is fine.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

My personal opinion - Never buy a car, boat, or toy with a "new engine" with "nearly 0 miles" on it. It is always a bucket of problems.

I would also be concerned if someone is getting out of the sport because of fuel prices, if they were already on the ragged edge of being able to afford it, I would be concerned if general maintenance was also pushed/missed