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I always kinda cringed at the thought of all that weight running in those little tracks thousands of miles long. And the “track” tech is basically the same as it’s been since the 1800’s yet the trains are faster, bigger, heavier,
Etc. Crazy.
 

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All the promises of, 'Rebuilding our aging Infrastructure' . . . Pfffftttttt.
Our country is falling apart.
It’s pretty simple. For government funded infrastructure repairs the tax dollars promised are getting funneled off into politician pet projects, or funding their own lifestyle at tax payer expense.

For corporate infrastructure, the shareholders demands for ever increasing returns makes it impossible to sink funds into infrastructure repairs that are just a suck on profits (but where at least some profits should normally be going).

So basically it’s fiscal irresponsibility at every level of government and corporate. We will be a third world shithole sooner than later and no one is coming to their senses any time soon.
 

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Trust me, a derailment is the last thing in the world the Railroads want to happen.
Give them time to find out what the cause was. They've already took out of service, a certain style of cars since the first derailment, because they pulled too loose. They'll find the reason why. Meanwhile, don't get too close to the Trains !
 

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I believe I read an article a few weeks back that there are an average of 1000 train derailments in the US every year. Have not tried to find.
 

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Gov tax $$$$ for "Infrastructure" is for highways and bridges....... right?
Publicly owned.
Rail tracks are privately owned by the raiway companys....
No tax $$$ to repair.
Or am I wrong ?
 

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I believe I read an article a few weeks back that there are an average of 1000 train derailments in the US every year. Have not tried to find.
I pulled up the same article. It’s 3-ish a day. They’re front page news now. Whatever gets the clicks.
 

mash on it

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Gov tax $$$$ for "Infrastructure" is for highways and bridges....... right?
Publicly owned.
Rail tracks are privately owned by the raiway companys....
No tax $$$ to repair.
Or am I wrong ?

Biden administration approved $368 million for 46 projects in 32 states.

Dan'l
 

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Cmon this is just getting stupid
Unfortunately thru history it’s been an issue
Hell more people have died traveling in trains than planes
Has to be a case of trying to save money

Thos happens all the time. I have customers that have an entire division dedicated to derailments
It's crazy. We are just hearing about it more now
 

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Gov tax $$$$ for "Infrastructure" is for highways and bridges....... right?
Publicly owned.
Rail tracks are privately owned by the raiway companys....
No tax $$$ to repair.
Or am I wrong ?
Way wrong, sorry to point out, but the class 1’s have learned how to tap into the infrastructure bills, “we keep X amount of semis off the road” . And to top it off the railroads have also found their solution to single man crew sizes, by running two trains as one, I’m sure most have seen plenty on their trips to and from the river via the i40.

Train lengths are the number one issue with todays tracks, not saying it’s the actual cause of these derailments, however…….
 

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I always kinda cringed at the thought of all that weight running in those little tracks thousands of miles long. And the “track” tech is basically the same as it’s been since the 1800’s yet the trains are faster, bigger, heavier,
Etc. Crazy.
Not really, the rail is much heavier, the metallurgy better and the maintenance regimen is far superior. Not to mention they went from sticks of rail bolted together to continuous welded rail.
 

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Not really, the rail is much heavier, the metallurgy better and the maintenance regimen is far superior. Not to mention they went from sticks of rail bolted together to continuous welded rail.
Still creepy. 😜😜
 

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I always kinda cringed at the thought of all that weight running in those little tracks thousands of miles long. And the “track” tech is basically the same as it’s been since the 1800’s yet the trains are faster, bigger, heavier,
Etc. Crazy.
Listening to some of the old railroader stories they ran faster back then. 100mph from LA-San Diego. I could only imagine what they would run out in the middle of the desert.
The UPRR Big Boy (built in the 1940’s) by itself is 600 tons. Which is more than a 5 car passenger train.
But I agree train lengths need to be shortened and 2 man crews mandatory.
 

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Not really, the rail is much heavier, the metallurgy better and the maintenance regimen is far superior. Not to mention they went from sticks of rail bolted together to continuous welded rail.


It's still just held in place by some sticks and nails basically.
 

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It's still just held in place by some sticks and nails basically.
Sort of...
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This happened right across from Quinns Hotsprings. Friends arrived right after it happened. Screenshot from her video -
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I always kinda cringed at the thought of all that weight running in those little tracks thousands of miles long. And the “track” tech is basically the same as it’s been since the 1800’s yet the trains are faster, bigger, heavier,
Etc. Crazy.
The US's train technology is centuries behind European and Asian countries. It's adrenaline pumping to be on an ICE train in Germany blowing past Autobahn drivers already boogie'n @ 160+ kph.
Why else do you see euro branded trains used here for local commuter/trolly/subway type systems?
 

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We know that’s a google pic, no way have your boots touched ballast in a long long time 🤣🤣🤣
May be more jealousy than comedy tho 🤦🏼😔
If I'm being honest, my boots haven't touched my feet in 2 years. That reminds me, time to get out the backpack sprayer.
 

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The US's train technology is centuries behind European and Asian countries. It's adrenaline pumping to be on an ICE train in Germany blowing past Autobahn drivers already boogie'n @ 160+ kph.
Why else do you see euro branded trains used here for local commuter/trolly/subway type systems?
Friend described the new at that time Amtrak locomotives as an, "over-engineered German piece of shit". I think he was more upset at how the front window opening design interfered with his ability to smoke while running.
 

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The US's train technology is centuries behind European and Asian countries. It's adrenaline pumping to be on an ICE train in Germany blowing past Autobahn drivers already boogie'n @ 160+ kph.
Why else do you see euro branded trains used here for local commuter/trolly/subway type systems?
Oh, for SURE! I’ve only been on 3 trains in my life. Amtrak to San Diego a couple years ago. Skunk train in the redwoods a few years ago. And a bullet train from Frankfurt to Paris about 20 years ago. You just don’t hear many stories of bullet trains crashing. There has been a few. But not many.
 

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Friend described the new at that time Amtrak locomotives as an, "over-engineered German piece of shit". I think he was more upset at how the front window opening design interfered with his ability to smoke while running.
Nothing a switch broom won’t fix…
 

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My wife and I fished the Clark Fork with a guide from Coeur d Alene and Mark Few from Gonzaga back in mid 2000’s.
Half way through the trip we drifted through a long patch of floating wheat spilled from derailed box cars along the bank.
 
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