You hit it on the nose. I’d be switching builders. Unfortunately if the builder is a marine engine builder, he better understand the difference between marine and off road engine builds. The two engines are for completely different purposes, demands, and conditions.
This is an interesting thing too. I'm old school and poor. I've only messed with a little of the nicer efi stuff. Just like an engine needs to be built for the specific demands, so does the tune. I've witnessed guys thinking "I have a laptop, I can tune." (Just because someone has a SnapOn toolbox doesn't mean they know the tools.) I'd assume parameters for an offroad rig would be much different than boats and drag cars. Fuel and timing curves make big differences...and even big bangs.
Friend Igor builds them and claims on preparation alone "it's $35.000 to get it off the trailer race ready, each race."
Truth!that’s absolutely what it costs to prep a car for each race. Sometimes more some times a little less. A engine should last you quite a while but accessories on it and heads should be treated as wear items imo. The rest of the car needs to be prepped and inspected after every race. All pivot bearings replaced, all suspension sent off to be checked for cracks, rear gear, all hubs, axles, drive line, trans every couple races blah blah blah.Friend Igor builds them and claims on prep alone "it's $35.000 to get it off the trailer race ready."
Igor in action:
I'm just glad it's not Gary!
The newer lifters arent as bad as they have forced oiling to the bearings. The old roller lifters relied on splash lube and we all know boats idle a lot and that doesn't help the situation.
Yes, especially any aftermarket link-bar style roller purchased within the last 15 years, that isn't a Johnson or made in Johnson's factory and re-branded.
Mike builds more than just off road motors these days.
Theres so much that goes into deciphering "what is killing a motor". It's like a chain made from 100 different links - your only as strong as your weakest link, and any link can break the connection. It really is a team effort, and it takes somebody with acute diagnostic ability to review failures and track down the contributing factor(s).
Because
Bigger, better, faster and probably safer. You know car people aren't real smart with there money.
And his father-in-law’s K boat sits in his lobby. He took good care of me even after the build.
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As impressive as that is - that clip is only 13 seconds long, and the Trophy truck puts a 3+second gap on the SxS from entering frame to dissapearing from frame
Which makes sense, as the top finishing UTV was 5 hours behind the top finishing TT in last years 1000.
That course section has the UTV maxed out and bouncing like a pogo stick, the TT is settled and prepared to take on a bigger hit .
The UTV's have come so far and are amazing, but theres no comparison to a wide open Trophy Truck
Trophy truck in-cab footage - 133mph
Sometimes you need a scalpal, sometimes a chainsaw!
If i' can have 80% of the fun for 10% of the cost sign me up...lolAs impressive as that is - that clip is only 13 seconds long, and the Trophy truck puts a 3+second gap on the SxS from entering frame to dissapearing from frame
Which makes sense, as the top finishing UTV was 5 hours behind the top finishing TT in last years 1000.
That course section has the UTV maxed out and bouncing like a pogo stick, the TT is settled and prepared to take on a bigger hit .
The UTV's have come so far and are amazing, but theres no comparison to a wide open Trophy Truck
Trophy truck in-cab footage - 133mph
Gotta be honest... this made me fucking laugh out loud... Well played sir.First thing I would is test it on treadmill.
That is almost exactly the number they told me as well!Friend Igor builds them and claims on preparation alone "it's $35.000 to get it off the trailer race ready, each race."
Igor in action recorded on a Barbie phone:
1000%!! We learned allot of this back in the Jimco Xtrac days. The guys at Xtrac’s could not wrap their head around the data they were capturing and shock load was the biggest one. In one case the harmonic balancer on the crank sheared two key ways as the shock load coming back through the driveline to the crankshaft was insane. This is what convinced Julson we needed a torque converter. Ultimately as I’m sure Sean knows, Jimco had to go a different direction as they were about selling cars not transmissions, and the Xtrac trans was not showcasing or selling the Jimco TT.
If it impressed Joey you know it’s good. Mike miller also builds a nice engine.
My hydro with a Glen Self built engine ran pretty darn good too. Made amazing power way up in the rpm’s. Shift at 9200 rpm. When he was a little late on the shifts, broke valve springs every time. We were the only boat with a 3 speed. I’m sure you remember it. We ran you a few times.
Blasphemy ! I hope to never see a golf cart on the podium ahead of a TT. At the same time, that Can-am or Polaris isn't a SXS anymore, it's a tube chassis that appears to be a SXS. That’s the only way a “SXS” can be at the upper level of off road motorsports.
While I agree this will probably happen at a race in the States, i thought we might see a UTV crack top 5 at V2R, it will not happen at a Score race anytime soon, if ever. While the UTVs may be faster in certain areas of the race, it's going to be hard to beat the trucks at pushing 150 and can smash 30 mile whoop sections at a dollar +.
Good, fast and cheap. you can only pick two.
Yeh I think I had one of my best passes against yours at chowchilla. I had to let off to save index but I was in the 4.30s to 1/8 and my mph was upper 120s. Although my trap speed was 125 and 7.96 et. It was on a mid 7.70 range run had I stayed in itMy hydro with a Glen Self built engine ran pretty darn good too. Made amazing power way up in the rpm’s. Shift at 9200 rpm. When he was a little late on the shifts, broke valve springs every time. We were the only boat with a 3 speed. I’m sure you remember it. We ran you a few times.
