Predator hull (CP hull)

[Tamalewagon]

Do any of the boating guru's here know who currently has or is building the Predator Hulls? It is a California Performance hull.

 

[TrollerDave]

http://www.socaljetboats.com/hulls/predator-boats-(gullwing)/

https://www.google.com/amp/www.performanceboats.com/boats-sale/37990-19-predator-gullwing.html?amp=1

 

[TrollerDave]

Do any of the boating guru's here know who currently has or is building the Predator Hulls? It is a California Performance hull.

According to the threads, Neil at SDPM built them under the Predator brand and then sold the molds. Jason Rouse ended up with the mold and I believe he ended up selling it to Bill at California Performance.

 

[BingerFang]

Hey Scott,

Bill Scotten has the molds for both the Rouse and California Performance. He is a very good friend of mine, let me know if you need his contact information.

Cheers!

 

[monkeyswrench]

Build one!
My first ride on the strip was in a CP with a dual quad Olds. Always thought that would be a fun hull. There used to be a guy with a metallic brown CP style up by Needles...blown hemi.

 

[Tamalewagon]

Hey Scott,

Bill Scotten has the molds for both the Rouse and California Performance. He is a very good friend of mine, let me know if you need his contact information.

Cheers!

Outstanding! I would love to get his contact info. Hopefully he won't charge me an arm/leg for a 19 footer. Please PM me the info. Many thanks.

 

[Tamalewagon]

Exactly what I am looking to get...except with purple metal flake

 

[TexasJet]

I have one. Rides like a dream. I'm very happy with the boat.

 

[RandyH]

I almost bought one before I ordered a new Ultra 21. I love the Stealth. But I should have bought the CP.

 

[Gelcoater]

Exactly what I am looking to get...except with purple metal flake View attachment 869756

Purple metal flake....
Starting to drool a little.

 

[Tamalewagon]

Here is my first one...doggone I miss this thing. Jason Naylor from Sandbar Resort was kind enough to take these of us.

 

[Blackmagic94]

So who is the current builder of the mold now? Website?

 

[Tamalewagon]

California Performance - Bill Scotten

 

[boatdoc55]

Not to hi-jack, but waaaaaay back in 82-83 Tommy Papp and I built an 18' Winger that was an Earl Smith boat out of Texas. I believe most if not all Wingers came from this early design. It was a quick little SOB and we ran at several of the campsites near the I10 out of Blythe. Some of you old timers from Water Wheel and McIntyre might remember it. Lil Tuffy, Blue with about 5 miles of pinstripes. Damn I wish I would have kept that boat but our first house won out over that money pit.
Thanks for letting me rehash "The Good Old Days"

 

[X Hoser]

A lot of us lost our first boats to houses. I heard different opinions about the 18' vs the 19'? Is there that much difference? Which is the preferred and why? If this is a thread jack I'll start another one.

 

[BingerFang]

A lot of us lost our first boats to houses. I heard different opinions about the 18' vs the 19'? Is there that much difference? Which is the preferred and why? If this is a thread jack I'll start another one.

Paging @white tortilla ........

18 is a better race boat and the 19 is a better riding river boat.

 

[gqchris]

Tamale, why dont we talk about a trade?

19’Baker Tunnel

 

[NorCalRiverRat]

Not to hi-jack, but waaaaaay back in 82-83 Tommy Papp and I built an 18' Winger that was an Earl Smith boat out of Texas. I believe most if not all Wingers came from this early design. It was a quick little SOB and we ran at several of the campsites near the I10 out of Blythe. Some of you old timers from Water Wheel and McIntyre might remember it. Lil Tuffy, Blue with about 5 miles of pinstripes. Damn I wish I would have kept that boat but our first house won out over that money pit.
Thanks for letting me rehash "The Good Old Days"

was it the earl smith design with the "Straight Sides" those were cool looking boats, but for some reason Dangerous....

 

[TrollerDave]

was it the earl smith design with the "Straight Sides" those were cool looking boats, but for some reason Dangerous....

The one that has a “dangerous” reputation is the 18 Tunnel hull bottom. It’s has been known to make quick turns and pitch a few people. That is why you see the sponsons extended in the front. But a very fast hull.

The 18’ gullwing is a quick boat and good for racing. This is the one with the straight sides. The 19’ sides angle in a bit. The decks have a little variance between them as well.

 

[rivrrts429]

was it the earl smith design with the "Straight Sides" those were cool looking boats, but for some reason Dangerous....

You’re thinking of the Texas Tunnel and they’re something like a 16’, not the 18’ or 19’ wingers.

 

[NorCalRiverRat]

You’re thinking of the Texas Tunnel and they’re something like a 16’, not the 18’ or 19’ wingers.

yeah, that's the one. they were throwing people out, but a cool looking hull.

 

[BingerFang]

There’s a 19’ that runs 5.56 to 1000’ at NJBA..... I once saw an 18’ win the 8 second 1/4 mile class there too...

The CP hulls are bad ass

 

[boatdoc55]

Yes, mine was a straight 18' gullwing. When we built mine I don't think the "Texas Tunnel" had been thought of yet and indeed, it was a wicked ride when not going straight. From what I remember the 19' was just over a foot longer and 6" wider than the 18' but that extra width seemed like 2'. Mine was a little tight with cocktail seating and me being a 280 LB'er. All in all it showed it's backside to most all other boats on that part of the river from a 20mph start. As said earlier, it was a VERY quick SOB. Tommy worked his magic on it for a long time, he was a wizard on jet boats.

 

[bagged97taco]

There’s a 19’ that runs 5.56 to 1000’ at NJBA..... I once saw an 18’ win the 8 second 1/4 mile class there too...

The CP hulls are bad ass

You forgot to mention it has a small block (with hair dryers) in it. Hauls Ass tho

 

[YumaRivernaut]

You’re thinking of the Texas Tunnel and they’re something like a 16’, not the 18’ or 19’ wingers.

16' Texas Tunnel. Quick little buggers.

 

[BingerFang]

I had the 19’ on the right. Best boat I ever owned!

 

[Devious_Chris]

Mine is a 2016 Scotten built CP. I love it!

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[boatdoc55]

I had the 19’ on the right. Best boat I ever owned!

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That picture show's the width of the 19'. In mine those front seats damn near touched each other. I'd love to have a 19' but seriously doubt I could get this old fat body up in the darn thing.

 

[lbhsbz]

Not to hi-jack, but waaaaaay back in 82-83 Tommy Papp and I built an 18' Winger that was an Earl Smith boat out of Texas. I believe most if not all Wingers came from this early design. It was a quick little SOB and we ran at several of the campsites near the I10 out of Blythe. Some of you old timers from Water Wheel and McIntyre might remember it. Lil Tuffy, Blue with about 5 miles of pinstripes. Damn I wish I would have kept that boat but our first house won out over that money pit.
Thanks for letting me rehash "The Good Old Days"

Were you the guy that used to come up to Big River and run Kenny in that orange boat in the evenings?...was probably late ‘80s.

 

[mark r / 019]

Here’s a shot of the 18 ft . Straight sides . The Gullwings are known for being quick hulls for racing . They ride great on the river also .This one has a all aluminum engine and rides over wakes nicely .

 

[Tamalewagon]

Tamale, why dont we talk about a trade?

19’Baker Tunnel



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Great boat but I want an open bow.

 

[76sanger]

There's is no style at all to those hulls! They are so just square. Really are quite ugly, IMO. But they are fast!

 

[FreeBird236]

Great boat but I want an open bow.

Are the CP's available in open bow?

 

[boatdoc55]

Were you the guy that used to come up to Big River and run Kenny in that orange boat in the evenings?...was probably late ‘80s.

Not me but used to go play with the guys at Lost Lake. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. I didn't have the funds to go the puffer way towards the end of ownership of Tuffy and got picked on a lot. Them blower jetboats started getting fast and just not quick!!

 

[boatdoc55]

There's is no style at all to those hulls! They are so just square. Really are quite ugly, IMO. But they are fast!

They weren't made to look impressive, they were made to haul ass and that they did and still do. Pack a little air under them wings and hold on, shit's about to get real!!!!

 

[Rjt01]

Yep the haul ass

 

[Rjt01]

I know where there is a open bow cp , it’s a jet an has some glass work that needs repair. Will c if it’s for sale ???

 

[ElAzul]

SleeperCP used to hang here and had a fast open bow if I remember correctly

 

[Tamalewagon]

I know where there is a open bow cp , it’s a jet an has some glass work that needs repair. Will c if it’s for sale ???

Appreciate it but I am looking specifically for the O/B.

 

[brgrcru]

I think they are nicest and best looking jet boats on the river. Plus they would spank any Sanger bubble deck jet , from hear to kingdom come. With less Hp.

 

[brgrcru]

Have bill build you one . With out power , but everything else, I'm thinking you will be in over 25k easy .

 

[Backlash]

I can't imagine that boat would respond well to additional weight in the bow. In my opinion, it almost defeats the purpose of the original design. That boat was designed to be light and efficient.......not a water taxi.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Appreciate it but I am looking specifically for the O/B.

You didn’t buy that one? Another person told me he couldn’t get a hold of that guy, I just figured you bought it first.

 

[Backlash]

I'd argue and say the TPR 19 is the best looking hull in that size range.

 

[brgrcru]

Oh Ya here is my 2007 Cp 19'

 

[brgrcru]

I'd argue and say the TPR 19 is the best looking hull in that size range.

Those are great looking boats , and haul ass . For River duty I'll take a 19' cp easy 4 seater, skies , cooler.

 

[Backlash]

Yours looks good. I've always been a fan of the TPR hull and would LOVE to have one with a 2.5 strapped on the transom. I just dont have time and money for another project right now. Maybe some day!

 

[D19]

Contact Chris Starkweather at B1 Racing in Santa Ana.

He can make the Cheyenne too.

 

[D19]

Here’s some pictures of one that I helped out with.

 

[Backlash]

Any exterior overall shots??